We all know how the warmists like to avoid debating at all costs. In this case, the easily agitated to effervescence – blow your top Romm was aptly represented at a “Drinks and Debate” in Washington, DC by the perfect debate proxy stand in.
Myron Ebell of globalwarming.org explains in his post:
I and several of my CEI colleagues were looking forward to an informal debate late Friday afternoon on energy policy sponsored by McKinsey and Company, the global consulting firm. As part of their “Drinks and Debate” series, McKinsey’s Washington, DC office invited David Kreutzer of the Heritage Foundation and Joe Romm of the Center for American Progress’s Climate Progress blog to make some remarks and then take questions from an audience of around 40 people representing all shades of the political spectrum.
It sounded like a lot of fun because Romm often seems enraged and slightly deranged in his frequent blog posts, but unfortunately Romm cancelled at the last minute. Our host explained that Romm had pulled out without giving a reason and that his side of the debate would be represented by a bottle of Corona Light.
It was still fun: David Kreutzer gave an engaging and stimulating presentation, as he always does, and the bottle of Corona Light proved to be more rational and less misleading than Romm.
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Really? They’re still trying that, “We’re going to ignore the skeptics to show how little we regard their arguments and THAT will keep them from achieving any sort of mainstream notice or acceptance” ? Yeah Joe, that was 2005. Guess what… running away from the debate now has exactly the opposite effect. It’s a bummer, I know.
“the bottle of Corona Light proved to be more rational and less misleading than Romm.”
Post like this need a beverage moment warning!
MikeM…
GREATER THAN WE EXPECTED
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Ric Werme says:
February 10, 2012 at 5:29 am
How about “Olde Frothingslosh, the Pale Ale for the Pale Stale Male?” It started as a long-running joke from Pittsburgh radio jockey Regis Cordic about a beer brand “so light, the foam’s on the bottom”.
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Heh-heh. Yeah, that has to be the worst tasting “beer”. IIRC the cans had the logo “The pale stale ale with the foam on the bottom”. Of course, after a couple, it wasn’t so bad…
Another disgusting “beer” was HoppinGator. Pffffttt…
Personally I would have used a series of diet coke bottles with Mentos poised to drop in, and every time a valid point against CAGW was made drop a Mentos into the diet coke. The resulting eruption would perfectly stand in for the effervescent Romm. /snarc
Another bad proxy!
Must keep an Ill Tempered Gnome around for such occasions.
Romm and Koch
(Kochs attended MIT also and since I have met 2 of them and their dad Fred, i still do not know how many pronounce Koch like the brothers do (Coke) )
According to the N&Z Universal Theory of Climate Science Wild Ass Guesses (UTCSWAG) that pressurized bottle of CO2 should be warm. Romm is never warm. His rhetoric is impossibly overheated at most times, too. Clearly another case where the proxy does not properly represent the observed physical world.
In Romm’s case, would not Castlemaine XXXX be more appropriate?
BTW It is so called because Australian’s find it too difficult to spell ‘B E E R’
(joke)
Reminds me of the time my pastor challenged the head of the FCC to a debate and when he did not show up our pastor substituted a watermelon in his stead on national television.
This seems like a good thread for an off-topic post. I am looking for something along the lines of a timeline of our AWARENESS of global warming. I think we all agree that the world has been in a warming phase since about 1850…..but when did people first become aware that this was something more than just a couple of slightly warm years? And who noticed it first? Scientists? Farmers? Overcoat manufacturers? Then when did it first begin to be quantified etc….?
If anyone has any good sources along these lines I will be quite reasonably appreciative. Thanks.
RWS, your question is excellent, and please let me commend in particular the American Institute of Physics (AIP) website “The Discovery of Global Warming“, together with the (many!) historical references therein.
This same AIP site provides excellent summaries (again with numerous references) of the fundamental physics of heat transport.
Al Gore is large but Romm is lager. GK
Koch as “coke” is the German pronunciation. There are a number of people, who, for historical reasons that started during the 1st World War, have avoided the German pronunciation.
Warmists keep calling for debates that never happen. They are much more comfortable on late night shows where they can amuse an ill-educated comedian. That is their caliber.
Off Topic:
But,,,withstading the use of free speech herein:
Heads Up: http://www.epic.org/foia/epic-v-dhs-media-monitoring/
RWS, wheat yields in northern Canada.
a(lleged) physicist:
Proselytizing?
The bottle should have been shaken first- more likely to blow it’s top…
Joe “Tiny Bubbles” Romm.
Because size matters.
“We all know how the warmists like to avoid debating at all costs.” It’s true because they know they will lose. For some years a Montreal radio station (Roy Green Show) had a standing offer of unlimited air time to anyone that would debate with me – there were no takers.
I had a debate in Calgary a couple of years ago, but it confirmed what I suspected. If someone is willing to debate it usually means they don’t know or understand the science or the political machinations.
Some have declined to debate with me using the reason (excuse) that the debate is over. This is the same as saying the science is settled.
For those of us old enough to remember and tried it, THE worst beer ever made is Billy Beer !!!
An old joke from the time, A man wanted to know what was in Billy beer sent a sample to a lab for testing. The next week the answer came in the mail, it said, Congratulations, your horse is pregnant!
I have an unopened can of Billy Beer in the cupboard and I’ve no doubt it is as good today as it ever was.
@ur momisugly MIke M
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BIG OIL
PEAK OIL
SUSTAINABILITY
UNSUSTAINABLE
SEA LEVELS
ICE CAPS
POLAR BEARS
FUTURE GENERATIONS
ALL IN THIS TOGETHER
GLACIERS
EVIL REPUBLICANS
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An appropriate substitute. Shake a beer, open it, and it foams at the ‘mouth’, quite similar to Romm. And full of CO2.
As for the worst beer? Hardly. Granted, if I was lost in the desert, dying of thirst, and came across a bottle of Corona Light, I’d have to think about it. Makes Miller Lite tase good. But worst of all?
Buckhorn. During the mid-70’s, when sugar prices shot up, a sixpack of Coke cost $2.79. A sixpack of Buckhorn cost 79 cents. It was overpriced.