Sir Richard Branson goes full on stupid in Antarctica

The stupid, it burns. OTOH, he’s with Gore and Hansen and there’s press with him, so maybe he’s just being sociable . Get a load of this from Richard Branson’s blog, CO2 can apparently contradict solar forcing due to the Earth’s precession wobble and orbit:

Here’s the money quote:

The good news is we now know how to heat up the world. We just release an excess of carbon into it. So any time we’re heading to an ice age again that is what we can do to stop it.

Yeah, sure, that’ll go over well with the people that think Branson, Gore, and Hansen are heroes. And walking from Scotland to North Africa? Really?

From: "Age limits on Middle Pleistocene glacial sediments from OSL dating, North Norfolk, UK." Steven M. Pawley et al
Milankovitch cycles be damned, CO2 controls our climate destiny!

http://www.eoearth.org/files/120401_120500/120459/MilankovitchGraph.jpg
Milankovitch cycles over the past 1 000 000 years. Source: Global Warming Art

But I agree with Sir Richard on one point; warmth is far preferable to an ice sheet. You can’t dodge ice sheets but you can take steps to stay cool.

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February 1, 2012 2:04 pm

Sir Richard Brazen, as journo and blogger Andrew Bolt calls him.

Roy
February 1, 2012 2:10 pm

If we are ever going to use geoengineering we should try it out on Mars first. If it all goes wrong nobody will be harmed and if it goes right we will have another planet to colonise.

adolfogiurfa
February 1, 2012 2:13 pm

Buying “carbon credits” at US$ 3.- per hectare of amazon jungle and selling it at US$127,500.- it was such a promising business until those bad guys “sceptic”, in special WUWT, ruined it all !
Let´s go to Antarctica to fix it!

LazyTeenager
February 1, 2012 2:22 pm

And walking from Scotland to North Africa. Really.
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Depends on how you parse the original sentence. If it means you, could walk from Scotland to north Africa and for part a large part of the journey you would be walking on ice: then that would be fine. The map seems to be saying the sea level fall has allowed a land bridge at Gibraltar.

Coach Springer
February 1, 2012 2:22 pm

Dr. Jim’s obviously there as a technical adviser. I hadn’t realized unitl now that the twit Olympics were moved to Antartica.

February 1, 2012 2:24 pm

Seems more like you could walk from Scotland to errr Dunstable on ice.
Not quite the same ring to it, and certainly not worth the walk.

February 1, 2012 2:26 pm

Maybe he meant you could walk on ice to Dunstable, catch a bus to Luton airport and FLY to Africa?
Makes sense now…

Tom G(ologist)
February 1, 2012 2:33 pm

The Older Dryas was not 20 ka. As I mentioned above, the last glacial max was 18 ka. The Older Dryas has a range of dates, all about 13-15 ka. The Younger Dryas was the last gasp of the REAL cold which brought us in the current interglacial – 11.5. ka.

February 1, 2012 2:39 pm

Our good friends at klimaforskning.com
http://klimaforskning.com/forum/index.php/topic,540.0.html
have found two more rich involved, and how much it costs:
http://www.nationalgeographicexpeditions.com/expeditions/antarctica-cruise/detail
10580 + 1390 + 690 = 12660 USD
seems to be the absolute minimum per person…
Gosh, if Al Gore is taking a hundred, than it will cost him more than a million dollars… Probably a little discount for Al…

Jimbo
February 1, 2012 2:42 pm

The good news is we now know how to heat up the world. We just release an excess of carbon into it. So any time we’re heading to an ice age again that is what we can do to stop it.

Interesting quote. I thought that at the end of the Ordovician period the Earth went into an ice age when CO2 levels were were far, far higher than today. Natural co2 must behave differently to man’s co2. Co2, the magical gas.
http://ff.org/centers/csspp/library/co2weekly/2005-08-18/dioxide_files/image002.gif
H/t Bomber_the_Cat

Jimbo
February 1, 2012 2:47 pm

The good news is we now know how to heat up the world. We just release an excess of carbon into it. So any time we’re heading to an ice age again that is what we can do to stop it.

Interesting quote. I thought that at the end of the Ordovician period the Earth went into an ice age when CO2 levels were were 10 times higher than today. Natural co2 must behave differently to man’s co2. Co2, the magical gas.
http://ff.org/centers/csspp/library/co2weekly/2005-08-18/dioxide_files/image002.gif
H/t Bomber_the_Cat

Ray
February 1, 2012 2:52 pm

It’s insane to believe we should be in an ice age right now. We might be going into one though and regardless of how much CO2 is in the atmosphere, it will come. This will be the day when humanity will be happy to burn what ever it can in order to have heat, electricity and to grow food in greenhouses. The extra CO2 won’t do a damn thing to get the planet warmer.
Then he should blame volcanoes, bacteria, forest and grassland fires and decay of organic material… oh noooo, based on the major CO2 emission sources, earth should never get out of an ice age, except with the even of a major volcanic activity… but then you have all that sulfate in the air… we are doomed. / sarc

Mike H.
February 1, 2012 3:31 pm

Russ in Houston says:
February 1, 2012 at 9:43 am
Serendipity.

GeoLurking
February 1, 2012 3:45 pm

Brent Hargreaves says:
February 1, 2012 at 10:47 am
“Branson is repeating a widespread claim … that la Gomera in the Canaries is the sole surviving subtropical forest from the Tertiary Period; that all vegetation north of la Gomera was wiped out and has subsequently regrown.”
Wait, what?
<b?Is he flipping stoned? La Gomera is about 12 million years old. It didn’t even exist in the Tertiary Period. The only Jurassic thing about the Canary Islands is the few kilometer thick Jurassic era sediment that the islands erupted through and then formed on top of.

Richard deSousa
February 1, 2012 3:46 pm

Hansen and Branson… Tweedledee and Tweedledum…

February 1, 2012 3:47 pm

What I fail to understand here is that Burt Rutand who only in the last couple of days has a story here on WUWT concerning his AGW sceptics credentials, has worked very closely with Branson on his Space Flight project. Surely Branson and Burt must have broached this issue on numerous occassions?

Robert of Ottawa
February 1, 2012 3:51 pm

The world will neveer have anothere Ice Age
And how is this a bad thing?

meemoe_uk
February 1, 2012 4:02 pm

Oh my,
113 comments, and you all fell for it.
)c:f
A not so subtle mission for the AGW religion is to defile the term ‘ice age’
Just like the medieval warm period was inconvenient to the IPCC, the fact that we are currently in an ice age is also a thorn in the side of any thermagedon fanatic.
The implicit assertion in the title ‘ Antarctica 3 : The world will never have another ice age ‘ is that we are not in an ice age now.
This is false.
No one so far has spotted it.
Check the encyclopaedias for the definition.
The sub-goal of the AGW is to defile the accepted definition by redefining the current ‘ice age interglacial ‘ as not part of the 13.5 million year ice age.
So long as there’s large fields of permanent ice in Greenland and Antarctica, the the world is in an ice age.
I hope Anthony gives this point more prominence soon in his blog.

February 1, 2012 4:03 pm

Richard deSousa says:
“Hansen and Branson… Tweedledee and Tweedledum…”
Tweedledum and Tweedledumber.☺

charles Gerard Nelson
February 1, 2012 4:14 pm

[SNIP: No, that is something we are NOT going to discuss. Please stay on the topic of the thread. -REP]

Barbara Skolaut
February 1, 2012 4:25 pm

So – looking at the penguin pictures – it’s summer in Antarctica in February. Quelle surprise.

February 1, 2012 4:36 pm

saltspringson said:
February 1, 2012 at 9:42 am
The graph above indicates “eccentricity” is trending down. Given Branson, Hansen and Gore’s beliefs, shouldn’t that be going up sharply? 😉
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Like a hockey stick!

February 1, 2012 4:36 pm

“Ecotretas says: February 1, 2012 at 2:39 pm
http://www.nationalgeographicexpeditions.com/expeditions/antarctica-cruise/detail”
First I note, at that website, the map of the cruise http://www.nationalgeographicexpeditions.com/assets/images/1838/master.jpg shows it isn’t even making its way past the Antarctic Circle…that’s the equivalent of taking a trip to Iceland to visit the Arctic…while its close to the Arctic Circle, its just not part of the Arctic.
Secondly, does anyone know how many carbon offsets will be required to offset the fuel of two, 3200 diesel electric horsepower engines over this 14 day, non-Antarctic cruise?

Greg Cavanagh
February 1, 2012 4:37 pm

It realy scares me when they say things like “The world will never have another ice age”.
The Gore affect is all too real; as is bad luck comes in threes ect. Stop telling us it can’t happen guys.

February 1, 2012 4:38 pm

I live on the Southern Glacial Line, runs about 60 miles south of adelaide. If the ice age is hemispherically even then the northern glacial line wouldn’t extened further than the southern. Someone shoudl really ask the aborigines about all of this because they have some very interesting tales about how they fought of the Ice Spirits – they followed Bransons advice and set fire to the bushland. This is all true and recorded

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