The behind the scenes bumbling of the hockey stick

Mann oh Mann. Tom Nelson continues to wade through the 5000+ Climategate 2 emails. I’ve selected a few he’s highlighted in the vein of behind the scenes discussion of Dr. Michael Mann’s infamous “hockey stick” which claimed we were living in a period of unprecedented warmth.

It seems though, that the stick isn’t nearly as robust as we have been led to believe, such as it isn’t consistently replicable by the team itself and Briffa admits the trees are more precipitation sensitive (told ya so), and besides, Mann says it all big oil’s fault anyway.

Email 4990, Mar 2006, Richard Alley to Michael Mann: “she was not convincing that trees were thermometers when it was warm a millennium ago but are not thermometers when it is warm now”

Email 4990

The triggering issue was the “divergence” problem as raised by Rosanne D’Arrigo, that a spatially and temporally complex difference has arisen between many of the long tree-ring records and the instrumental record more recently than the calibration period in many cases. This has been in the literature for a while, as you know much better than I do, and was not highlighted by Rosanne in her talk, but some committee members jumped on it in questions, and she was not convincing that trees were thermometers when it was warm a millennium ago but are not thermometers when it is warm now.

…(I’m happy to go into details as to why the arguments were not convincing, insofar as I captured the arguments, but they were not convincing to me, and looking around the committee room, I don’t think they were convincing to important members of the committee.) …I don’t want to stir up trouble, I don’t want to piss off the tree-ring people yet again, but I do think that the tree-ring workers (and by association, all of us who do climate change) have a serious problem, and have not answered it very well yet. If better answers are out there, I hope that they come out soon.

Email 775, Feb 2006, Briffa to Henry Pollack

date: Wed Feb 15 15:49:58 2006 from: Keith Briffa subject: Re: Science paper to: Henry Pollack

thanks Henry – sorry also about the ridiculous way the Paleo chapter is being rushed. I have found loads of errors /typos that crept in

Email 4853, Keith Briffa, Nov 2006: “dropped the inference of direct, positive association with temperature, because we added in sites that Mike in particular had used because of their inverse sensitivity – ie they were really more precipitation sensitive”

Email 4853

cc: t.osborn@uea.ac.uk date: Mon, 06 Nov 2006 12:26:25 +0000 from: Keith Briffa subject: TSU Figure label to: Jonathan Overpeck , Eystein Jansen

..Tim has just pointed out to me that the caption to the current TS-20 contains the words “locations of temperature sensitive proxy records..”. In the revision of the Figure ( showing the 3 maps ) as presented in the Chapter , we refer to sites ” used to reconstruct temperature” and dropped the inference of direct, positive association with temperature, because we added in sites that Mike in particular had used because of their inverse sensitivity – ie they were really more precipitation sensitive . It would be better to amend the TSU caption to show the latter wording to account for this also. cheers Keith

Email 4854, Oct 2003, Phil Jones: “It is rather odd that the email said [M&M] had rerun his (Mann’s) exact analysis and got quite different results. I know I couldn’t do this, as when Keith, Tim and me wanted to do some comparisons with MBH98 a few years ago a few of the series could not be made available.”

Email 4854

subject: Re: CONFIDENTIAL

Thanks Phil, Got your email just as I sent off my latest. I agree fully with what you say–it is very difficult to repeat such an analysis exactly, and the real point here is, who knows what this guy (Steven McIntyre–I don’t know who the supposed 2nd author is) actually did. The Mann et al ’99 paper was clear that the results were sensitive to a small number of skillful predictors prior to AD 1400, and that non-climate biases had to be corrected for in some of the longer series to get a skillfully cross-validated reconstruction. Without knowing what the guy did, I’m guessing that he doesn’t even demonstrate that his alternative “reconstruction” passes cross-validation. If not, its all moot… But more fundamentally, this wasn’t submitted to a legitimate peer-reviewed scientific journal. Its a social science journal, and one that has shown a disdain for peer review (e.g. in publishing the Soon et al Climate Research paper essentially in its original unedited form–and see the recent documented comments of the editor). I agree this might blow over, but the folks in DC, such as McCain and Lieberman, who are fighting to represent what the legitimate scientific community has to say, need to be prepared in case the special interests try to use this. Hence, the short response I sent out. [Mike Mann]

[Phil Jones] Mike, Depending exactly on what it says I suggest we should do our best to ignore it. E&E is edited ( a very loose use of the word) by Sonia Boehmer-Christiansen, who’s generally involved, in some way, in all skeptic stuff here in Britain. It is rather odd that the email said the two had rerun his (Mann’s) exact analysis and got quite different results. I know I couldn’t do this, as when Keith, Tim and me wanted to do some comparisons with MBH98 a few years ago a few of the series could not be made available. I’m not trying to make any sort of point here, just to state that repeating an analysis with exactly the same data is normally very difficult.

Email 4758, UEA’s Tim Osborn, Oct 2000: “how can we be critical of Crowley for throwing out 40-years in the middle of his calibration, when we’re throwing out all post-1960 data ‘cos the MXD has a non-temperature signal in it, and also all pre-1881 or pre-1871 data ‘cos the temperature data may have a non-temperature signal in it! “

Email 4758

Because how can we be critical of Crowley for throwing out 40-years in the middle of his calibration, when we’re throwing out all post-1960 data ‘cos the MXD has a non-temperature signal in it, and also all pre-1881 or pre-1871 data ‘cos the

temperature data may have a non-temperature signal in it! If we write the Holocene forum article then we’ll have to be critical or our paper as well as Crowley’s!

But here’s the kicker, it’s all big oil and big coal’s fault:

Mann calls the hockey stick “an obscure graph”; other unnamed people have stripped the error bars away, “making it appear more definitive than it was ever intended”; “the entire apparatus for propelling this manufactured scandal on to the world stage was completely funded by the fossil-fuel front groups”

Michael Mann: The climate scientist who the deniers have in their sights – Profiles – People – The Independent

Mann believes the theft of the emails was not the work of a random hacker, but part of a sophisticated campaign. “It was a very successful, well-planned smear campaign intended … to go directly at the trust the public had in scientists,” he insists. “Even though they haven’t solved the crime of who actually broke in, the entire apparatus for propelling this manufactured scandal on to the world stage was completely funded by the fossil-fuel front groups.”…Climate contrarians argued that Mann and his colleagues were concealing their research methods because they had something to hide. In reply, Mann insists that he has been as open as he can about data and methodology, but the aim of these requests has more to do with intimidation than openness. “What they are trying to do is to blur the distinction between private correspondence and scientific data and methods, which of course should be out there for other scientists to attempt to reproduce.

“I think it’s intentional and malicious. It’s intended to chill scientific discourse, to intimidate scientists working in areas that threaten these special interests,” he says. “It’s the icing on the cake if they can also get hold of any more private correspondence that they can mine and cherry pick. It’s a win-win for them.” Why an obscure graph published in a scientific journal should enrage so many people has been the subject of much internet conspiracy (or genuine scientific debate, depending on your point of view).

The original 1998 hockey stick study by Mann and his colleagues did in fact emphasise the tentative nature of estimating past temperatures before the invention of accurate thermometers.

…”When we first published our Nature article in 1998, we went back six centuries,” Mann says. “A year later we published a follow-up going back 1,000 years with quite a few caveats. In fact, the caveats and uncertainties appeared in the title, and the abstract emphasised just how tentative this study was because of all the complicating issues.

“It’s frustrating that to some extent all of that context had been lost and the result has been caricatured. Often the errors bars are stripped away, making it appear more definitive than it was ever intended.”

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Ged
January 16, 2012 11:06 am

“repeating an analysis with exactly the same data is normally very difficult.”
Only if it’s not science.

January 16, 2012 11:10 am

Gets better with every batch … How good will it go?
tangled web. Much easier to just tell the truth.

Harry Bergeron
January 16, 2012 11:10 am

Now, I’d like to see where Mann, et al., complained in public about missing error bars.

January 16, 2012 11:23 am

major9985 says:
The hokey stick is old news, so let’s do a reconstruction. The link provided of course shows Mann’s Hokey Stick was the real deal, commenting that it used: “…complementary methods that have been thoroughly tested and validated with model simulation experiments.”
Oh, yeah, like that’s convincing [/sarc]. They come up with the same hokey stick as Mann’s original.
However, apparently major 9985 forgot that he posted this upthread:

“It is rather odd that the email said the two had rerun his (Mann’s) exact analysis and got quite different results. I know I couldn’t do this, as […] a few of the series could not be made available. I’m not trying to make any sort of point here, just to state that repeating an analysis with exactly the same data is normally very difficult.”

That contradicts the link that claims it replicated Mann’s results.
No wonder journals have lost credibility with nonsense like that. Actually, when Mann’s numbers are used correctly, his hokey stick disappears.

DD More
January 16, 2012 11:30 am

“I think it’s intentional and malicious. It’s intended to chill scientific discourse, to intimidate scientists working in areas that threaten these special interests,” he says.
Reads a little differnt considering M Mann is the ‘Special Interest’.
Why an obscure graph published in a scientific journal should enrage so many people has been the subject of much internet conspiracy (or genuine scientific debate, depending on your point of view).
Then how did it get such a prominent place with the IPCC?

David Schofield
January 16, 2012 11:33 am

Phil Jones:
“I’m not trying to make any sort of point here, just to state that repeating an analysis with exactly the same data is normally very difficult.”
I had a quick skim though the article above and that comment jumped straight out at me like it was in 3D! I thought I can’t be reading that right, then noticed all the other comments here. This is really weird. Worthy of an article on its own.

Kelvin Vaughan
January 16, 2012 11:41 am

I have just managed to download the CET daily data since 1878. Wow what a lot of information anomolies cover up. I was starting to beleive in climate change but I’m not now!

January 16, 2012 11:54 am

Smoky, I love The Hockey Stick Illusion so much that I bought a hundred copies and I’m reselling them. As far as I know, I am the only retailer in the world offering copies with a bookplate signed by the Bish. I’d be delighted to sell them all and order more.

Urederra
January 16, 2012 12:01 pm

Phil Jones:
“I’m not trying to make any sort of point here, just to state that repeating an analysis with exactly the same data is normally very difficult.”

Is that the guy who does not know how to use excel?

David A. Evans
January 16, 2012 12:12 pm

Since the first time I saw Mann interviewed for AlBeebs “Climate Wars” and in all subsequent interviews, I’ve considered him to be no more than a snivelling brat, not a scientist.
Sue me Mikey! You have my name, I live in Peterlee, Co. Durham, England!
DaveE.

The Other Pamela Gray
January 16, 2012 12:14 pm

Urederra: Is that the guy who does not know how to use excel?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
[wipes eyes]
Thanks for that……………….

Nick Shaw
January 16, 2012 12:22 pm

Anthony, I sure do wish you could change the comment format to allow direct response to others who post here. Possible?
Steven Rosenburg says, complains about the prose of others but, “Bad writing is possible the single best marker of bad thinking.”
I don’t usually make note of spelling or grammar unless a grammarnazi chimes in with his own mistakes. You’re not a grammarnazi are you Steven?
I was going to say something about this laughable quote, “repeating an analysis with exactly the same data is normally very difficult.” but, the crew already tore that one a new one!
Mikey really does have a thing for “skill” and “skillful predictors” doesn’t he? Would that he used a little more of his supposed skill to compose his graphs, which he now maintains are pure conjecture, despite being prominently featured in just about every discourse on AGW and many school texts. I’m guessin’ he’s sent e-mails to all those publishers and users suggesting they remove the offending pages, right?
I like this, “all of us who do climate change”. Really? So they are responsible? Couldn’t we just have them killed and the problem would go away?
This is good too, ““…the entire apparatus for propelling this manufactured scandal on to the world stage was completely funded by the fossil-fuel front groups.” if you know that the fossil fuel industry has pumped a lot of money into the warmista’s pockets and realize that the entire apparatus propelling this manufactured scandal (AGW) is Mann et al! So, is he telling the truth, or not? Yeah, I know, out of context. 😉

January 16, 2012 12:45 pm

The Middlebury Community Network
——————————————————————————–
Editorial: The Great Global Warming Hoax?
JPeden says:
January 16, 2012 at 10:59 am
Sir are you the JPeden that wrote the above article? If so a very good article.

Hilary Ostrov (aka hro001)
January 16, 2012 12:45 pm

[From Mann’s creative whining exercise in The Independent:]

Mann insists that he has been as open as he can about data and methodology, […]
[and]
Why an obscure graph published in a scientific journal […]

Hmmm … looks like we need to add two more words (“open” and “obscure”) to the ever-lengthening list of those that must be redefined in order to fully appreciate and understand the findings of these noble “climate scientists”.
Amazing. Simply amazing.

RockyRoad
January 16, 2012 12:54 pm

Mann believes the theft of the emails was not the work of a random hacker, but part of a sophisticated campaign…
Everybody has their own personalized intepretation–for Mann, he’s been at the center of a “sophisticated campaign” himself so he’d certainly view it that way.
But the “hacker” as Mann likes to call him, may have actually been angered enough by what he read to provide with world an unprecedented view of Mann’s inhumanity to man.

Jim G
January 16, 2012 12:58 pm

“and looking around the committee room, I don’t think they were convincing to important members of the committee.) …I don’t want to stir up trouble”
Remember, the camel is a horse designed by a committee.

January 16, 2012 2:12 pm

What’s interesting is tying some phrases together for a whole picture:
“…Mann insists that he has been as open as he can about data and methodology, but the aim of these requests has more to do with intimidation than openness…”
“…as when Keith, Tim and me wanted to do some comparisons with MBH98 a few years ago a few of the series could not be made available…”
Couldn’t they have just asked Mann for the data? Would Mann feel “intimidated” if they asked? After all, these WERE fellow academics, and not wanting to find anything wrong with it.

January 16, 2012 3:09 pm

ref Jones comment
“I’m not trying to make any sort of point here, just to state that repeating an analysis with exactly the same data is normally very difficult.”
I wonder if the model runs use a ‘counter factual concept of prediction’ idea which is basically a ‘what if’
if it does (IF) , then this might introduce a randomizer, which would make replication difficult or impossible.

January 16, 2012 3:34 pm

Even Wikipedia cannot fail to notice some interesting _details_:

Rather than displaying all of the long term temperature reconstructions, the opening figure of the Working Group 1 Summary for Policymakers in the IPCC Third Assessment Report highlighted an IPCC illustration based only on the MBH99 paper,[41] and a poster of the hockey stick graph was the backdrop when the report was announced on television. The graph was seen by mass media and the public as central to the IPCC case for global warming, which had actually been based on other unrelated evidence. Jerry Mahlman, who had coined the “hockey stick” nickname, described this emphasis on the graph as “a colossal mistake, just as it was a mistake for the climate-science-writing press to amplify it.”

DirkH
January 16, 2012 4:50 pm

Eternal Optimist says:
January 16, 2012 at 3:09 pm
“ref Jones comment
“I’m not trying to make any sort of point here, just to state that repeating an analysis with exactly the same data is normally very difficult.”
I wonder if the model runs use a ‘counter factual concept of prediction’ idea which is basically a ‘what if’
if it does (IF) , then this might introduce a randomizer, which would make replication difficult or impossible.”
That would be a kind of Monte Carlo simulation; there are such papers; Rahmstorff has produced his last few papers with such simulations. But in such a case you re-run it many times to get a stable result. During a reproduction, you would again run it many times, and the averaged result should then be close to the original one, and if it’s not, that indicates that the original result was spurious – resulting in a rebuttal of the original result.
As far as I know, Michael Mann’s original Hockey Stick doesn’t use such techniques.

DirkH
January 16, 2012 4:56 pm

” In reply, Mann insists that he has been as open as he can about data and methodology, but the aim of these requests has more to do with intimidation than openness.”
His recent “science communication” course pays off; they taught him to shamelessly lie. It’s time that scientists openly distance themselves from him; otherwise science as a profession will lose the remaining reputation it has. Well, maybe it’s already too late for that.

Ninderthana
January 16, 2012 4:58 pm

Steven Rosenberg says:
January 16, 2012 at 8:07 am
Wow. Not the content, but the horrible English prose. Bad writing is possible the single best marker of bad thinking.
No, in my experience it sometimes those who use the best prose that do the worst thinking! Often, they use their mastery of prose to hide their sloppy thinking.

Anon
January 16, 2012 5:12 pm

The now classic paper, “Corrections To The Mann et. al. (1998), Proxy Data Base And Northern Hemispheric Average Temperature Series,” by Stephen McIntyre & Ross McKitrick in Energy & Environemnt, Volume 14, Number 6, pp. 751-771, 2003, at http://www.multi-science.co.uk/mcintyre-mckitrick.pdf debunks the MBH98, due to its non-reproducible scientific data, i.e. Michael Mann´s et. al. infamous “hockey stick” graph. (My remark: MBH98 is “Global-Scale Temperature Patterns and Climate Forcing Over the Past Six Centuries,” Nature, No. 392, pp. 779-787, 1998, by M.E. Mann, R.S. Bradley, and M.K. Hughes.)
Stephen McIntyre´s & Ross McKitrick´s paper, “Corrections to the Mann et. al. (1998)” from 2003, states in its “Abstract,” page 751:
“The data set of proxies of past climate used in Mann, Bradley and Hughes (1998, “MBH98” hereafter) for the estimation of temperatures from 1400 to 1980 contains collation errors, unjustifiable truncation or extrapolation of source data, obsolete data, geographical location errors, incorrect calculation of principal components and other quality control defects. We detail these errors and defects. We then apply MBH98 methodology to the construction of a Northern Hemisphere average temperature index for the 1400-1980 period, using corrected and updated source data. The major finding is that the values in the early 15th century exceed any values in the 20th century. The particular “hockey stick” shape derived in the MBH98 proxy construction – a temperature that decreases slightly between the early 15th century and early 20th century and then increases dramatically up to 1980 – is primarily an artefact of poor data handling, obsolete data and incorrect calculation of principal components.”
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January 16, 2012 5:33 pm

Steven Rosenberg says:
January 16, 2012 at 8:07 am
Wow. Not the content, but the horrible English prose. Bad writing is possible the single best marker of bad thinking.
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You mean “possibly”. I always laugh when people fail the tests they use on others.