Warmer loses BBC sponsored bet: "…the standstill, not the increase, is now this warm period’s defining characteristic."

HadCRUT3 Global Temperature from 2007-2011

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London, 13 January: A climate bet proposed by the BBC’s radio programme “More or Less” four years ago has been won by Dr David Whitehouse, a former BBC Science Editor and a scientific adviser to the Global Warming Policy Foundation.

In 2008, the BBC programme-makers came up with the idea of a bet. It was for £100 that, using the Met Office’s data set (HadCrut3), there would be no new warming record set by 2011. It was made between Dr Whitehouse and climatologist Dr James Annan.

Later today, the BBC’s “More or Less” (16:30 on BBC Radio 4) will report about the outcome of the bet and announce the winner.

A full report of the scientific background to the bet is available here:

Winning A Climate Bet

by Dr. David Whitehouse, the Global Warming Policy Foundation

Predictions, Neils Bohr once said, are difficult, especially about the future. They are even more interesting however, when there is money at stake.

In December 2007 I wrote what I thought was quite a straightforward article for the New Statesman pointing out that it was curious that when so many voices were telling us that global warming was out of control, and that the global warming effect dwarfed natural fluctuations, the global annual average temperature hadn’t increased for many years. I wasn’t promoting any particular point of view just describing the data. The New Statesman jumped at it.

It caused quite a storm resulting in an Internet record number of comments that were complimentary by a large majority, although there were some less than supportive remarks. It evidently also caused quite a fuss in the offices of the New Statesman. Realclimate.com responded with, in my view, an unsatisfactory knock-down of my piece based on trend lines, which I had expected. Trend lines, especially of indeterminate length in the presence of noise, can tell you almost anything, and nothing.

The New Statesman environment correspondent Mark Lynas chipped in eventually with, “I’ll be blunt. Whitehouse got it wrong – completely wrong,” after saying he was initially reluctant to comment. He reproduced Realclimate.com’s trendlines argument and accused me of deliberately or otherwise setting out to deceive. It was a scientifically ignorant article which subsequent events, and peer-reviewed literature, emphasise. Moreover, when I asked New Statesman for redress against such an unnecessary, and in my view unprofessional insult, they declined, and stopped answering my emails. In doing so they missed out on an important, though perhaps inconvenient, scientific story.

More or Less

To my surprise interest in my article was worldwide, and eventually the BBC’s radio programme “More or Less” got in touch. The programme is about numbers and statistics and they set up a series of interviews. You can hear the programme here.

Almost at the last minute the programme-makers came up with the idea of a bet. It was for £100 that, using the HadCrut3 data set, there would be no new record set by 2011. It was made between climatologist James Annan and myself. His work involves analysing climatic data and validating climate models. He accepted enthusiastically as he has a perchant for taking on ‘sceptics.’ The presenter said that if the global temperature didn’t go up in the next few years, “there would be some explaining to do.”

Later today, January 13th, “More or Less” returns to the bet, which I am pleased to say I won, though I note that this bet, or its conclusion, is not yet mentioned on Annan’s Wikipedia entry despite his other climate bet being discussed.

Writing shortly after the wager was placed James Annan said he believed it was a fairly safe bet, though not certain, as the trend since the current warming spell began, around 1980, was upward (showing those same trendlines!) He drew a straight line from 1980 to 2007 and projected it forwards concluding that sometime over the next few years HadCrut3 would rise above its highest point which was in 1998 (a strong El Nino year.)

The problem with this approach is that it destroys all information in the dataset save the gradient of the straight line. In climate terms 30 years is usually held to be the shortest period to deduce trends (though shorter periods are used often if the trend deduced is deemed acceptable) but that is not to say there is not important information on shorter periods such as volcanic depressions, El Nino rises and La Nina dips. Then there are the so-called, poorly understood decadal variations.

My view was that the information in the dataset was important, especially if projecting it forward just a few years when natural variations were clearly dominant. Looking at HadCrut3 it is clear that there isn’t much of an increase in the 1980s, more of an increase in the 1990s, then there is the big 1998 El Nino, followed by no increase in the past decade or so. It therefore seemed far more likely that the temperature would continue what it had been doing in the recent past than revert to an upward trend, in the next few years at least.

My approach was to listen to the data. The approach taken by James Annan was flawed because he didn’t. He imposed a straight line on the data due to theoretical considerations. I always wonder about the wisdom of the approach that uses straight lines in climatic data. Why should such a complex system follow a straight line? Indeed, the rise of HadCrut3 is not a straight line, but the past ten years is, and that in my view is very curious, and highly significant.

Why, I wonder start the linear increase in 1980? Obviously the temperature starts rising then, but why not start the straight line in 1970? The answer is that the temperature is flat between 1970 and 1980. It seems illogical to take notice of flat data at the start of a dataset but totally ignore it at the end!

When a record is not a record

During the recent interview for “More or Less” James Annan said that had other temperature databases been used he would have won. This is a moot point that also strongly reaffirms my stance. In NasaGiss 2010 is the warmest year, with a temperature anomaly of 0.63 deg C, only one hundredth of a degree warmer than 2005, and within a whisker of 2007, 2006, 2002, 2001 and 1998. Given the 0.1 deg C errors even Nasa did not claim 2010 as a record. Technically speaking 2010 was slightly hotter because of a string El Nino. Otherwise, NasaGiss shows hardly any increase in the past decade.

During the “More or Less” interview the question arose of extending the bet to “double or quits” for the next five years. I was game for it with a proviso. Betting against a record for ten years raises a higher possibility that there might be a statistical fluctuation than betting for five years. Because of this I would like to see two annual datapoints, consecutively more than one sigma above the 2001 – date mean level. After all, that is the minimum statistical evidence one should accept as being an indication of warming. James Annan did not commit to such a bet during the programme.

It just has to start getting warmer soon.

Back in 2007 many commentators, activists and scientists, such as Lynas, said the halt in global temperatures wasn’t real. It is interesting that the Climategate emails showed that the certainty some scientists expressed about this issue in public was not mirrored in private. Indeed, one intemperate activist, determined to shoot my New Statesman article down but unable to muster the simple statistics required to tackle the statistical properties of only 30 data points, asked the University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit and the Met Office, to provide reasons why I was wrong, which they couldn’t.

What was true in 2007 is even more so in 2012. Since 2007 the reality of the temperature standstill has been accepted and many explanations offered for it, more than can possibly be true! We have seen predictions that half of the years between 2009 and 2014 would be HadCrut3 records (a prediction that now can’t possibly come to pass) which was later modified to half of the years between 2010 and 2015 (likewise.) The Met Office predict that 2012 -16 will be on average 0.54 deg C above the HadCrut3 baseline level, and 2017 -2021 some 0.76 deg C higher. Temperatures must go up, and quickly.

So how long must this standstill go on until bigger questions are asked about the rate of global warming? When asked if he would be worried if there was no increase in the next five years James Annan would only say it would only indicate a lower rate of warming! Some say that 15 years is the period for serious questions.

We are already there

In a now famous (though even at the time obvious) interview in 2010 Prof Phil Jones of the University of East Anglia confirmed that there was no statistically significant warming since 1995. There was an upward trend, but it was statistically insignificant, which in scientific parlance equates to no trend at all. In 2011 Prof Jones told the BBC that due to the inclusion of the warmish 2010 there was now a statistically significant increase between 1995 and 2010. Since 2011 was cool it doesn’t take complicated statistics to show that the post 1995 trend by that method of calculation is now back to insignificant, though I don’t expect the BBC to update its story.

The lesson is that for the recent warming spell, the one that begins about 1980, the years of standstill now exceed those with a year-on-year increase. It is the standstill, not the increase, that is now this warm period’s defining characteristic.

The nature of the anthropogenic global warming signal is that, unlike natural fluctuations, it is always additive. Sooner or later, it is argued, it will emerge unambiguously, perhaps at different times in different parts of the world, but it must emerge. Some argue that by the time it does it will already be too late, but that is another debate.

James Annan is keen on a “money markets” approach to forecasting global warming, and bemoans the reticence of so-called climate sceptics to put their money where their mouth is! I hope that his early-stage financial loss won’t be too much of a setback and a deterrence for potential investors, not that I will be among them.

Now that I am joining the ranks of those who have made money out of global warming (or rather the lack of it) I wonder where the smart money will be placed in the future.

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January 14, 2012 2:10 am

Khwarizmi – excellent, thanks, I did try that yesterday but got an error; today it works!
They talk of a 10-year period, so I suppose that’s 2010-2019 inclusive, but it’s not clear. Their latest forecast for 2012 is for 0.48+/-0.14, so 2010-2012 inclusive are unlikely to beat 1998 (see
http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/news/releases/archive/2011/2012-global-temperature-forecast ). I recall them being proud that their mean error for these predictions has only been about 0.06, but they never explain that their errors are very lopsided – nearly always overestimated, and 2011 was another case in point.
For 2012 they expect it warmer than 2011 because La Nina isn’t so strong. Well, that may be, but there is a lag between Nina and global temps, so personally I’d shoot for 2012 to be very similar to 2011, around 0.37.
In the older article they also forecast 2014 to be 0.3K higher than 2004, which would put HadCRUT3 around +0.75K. Could an El Nino year push it that high?
Rich.

Mr Green Genes
January 14, 2012 2:12 am

Erinome says:
January 13, 2012 at 7:09 pm
You’re reading off a script. You’re not challenging me. I’m not learning anything from you. No one is. Why should we continue?

Sorry to p*ss in your porridge but I, for one, do learn things from Smokey. I’m willing to learn from anyone who has something interesting to say. Maybe you’d like to start sometime.

Hans Henrik Hansen
January 14, 2012 2:15 am

“Predictions, Neils Bohr once said, are difficult, especially about the future” – Niels Bohr is not the originator of that (true) statement! In Denmark it was traditionally ascribed to Robert Storm Petersen, a famous (in Denmark, at least) humourist and ‘multi artist’, but that has been proven incorrect, as well.
As far as I can tell the origin is unknown, perhaps not even Danish (sorry!).

David A. Evans
January 14, 2012 2:38 am

Erinome says:
January 13, 2012 at 2:41 pm

feet2thefire says:
just as there is no such useful thing as a “global average temperature”

You then go on to prove that you can calculate a Global Average temperature.
Does that make it useful?
Where is your calculation for enthalpy? Is the mean, (Tmax +Tmin)/2 actually meaningful?
DaveE.

The Ghost Of Big Jim Cooley
January 14, 2012 2:54 am

More Or less (BBC R4) is a rare gem amongst a sea of crap.

January 14, 2012 4:34 am

I have 3 comments on previous subjects within this thread.
1. Re my (eventually successful) attempt to find http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/2007/pr20070810.html , why should it be so hard? Should the Met Office not be archiving all their press releases? On their site there are links to 2012, 2011, 2010, 2009. And if you type 2008 into the URL you can see those too, though sorted in alphabetical rather than date order. But 2007 draws a blank. Are they ashamed of their old news releases, or what?
2. Though McKitrick’s proposal to link carbon taxes (if there were ever any justification for such) with global temperature, the problem is that while at the moment we have concerns about the objectivity of the data presented, by say HadCRUT3, how much more worried would we be if specific big money was related to the last 1000th of a degree of the Met Office’s wonderfully impartial assessment?
3. The moderator here pushed back on claims that WUWT did badly in the 2011 sea ice stakes. I’m afraid I don’t think there’s a leg to stand on. WUWT did very well in 2010 when the “consensus” seriously underestimated. But in 2011 WUWT did badly, no two ways about it. There are two reasons for this. The first is that it was decided to quote the mode of the WUWT votes, whereas the mean was I believe quite a bit lower, and whilst still high would not have been such an outlier. The second is that not enough people (apparently) listened to me 🙂 In predicting 4.6-4.7 (I lucked out and was close to the money), I reasoned that the lag from the 2010 El Nino would be well timed to warm the Arctic seas.
Rich.

Some European
January 14, 2012 4:37 am

A minor quibble:
I noticed Dr. Whitehouse made a typo, referring to RealClimate.
It’s realclimate.ORG, not .com
If it’s on purpose (which I doubt), I don’t know why he would do that. I think there’s nothing wrong with blogs that end in .com, like this one, for example.
A major quibble:
Whitehouse: “There was an upward trend, but it was statistically insignificant, which in scientific parlance equates to no trend at all.”
Jones (the famously distorted quote from the BBC interview): “Yes, but only just. I also calculated the trend for the period 1995 to 2009. This trend (0.12C per decade) is positive, but not significant at the 95% significance level. The positive trend is quite close to the significance level. Achieving statistical significance in scientific terms is much more likely for longer periods, and much less likely for shorter periods.”

Ed_B
January 14, 2012 5:06 am

Erinome says:… etc etc
How does it feel to be schooled by Smokey? I can verify that there is life after AGW, especially CAGW, as I went through the learning process my self. It came as a great shock to me to find that
AGW “scientists” have been ignoring the contrary evidence, such as the ice core evidence that CO2 follows temps. That was 15 years ago, and ever since they have been “promoting” a belief, ie, pushing politics and religion, not science.
Now I doubt that we will ever be able to measure the warming due to CO2, as it is likely to be a fraction of a degree. The atmosphere is simply too turbulent and it is too efficient at dumping heat vertically to radiate into space. The models are fundamantally wrong, as they will never model/measure the fluid dynamics and heat transfer accurately. Thus a measurable greenhouse effect is wishful thinking. (speculating on how many fairies there could be on the head of a pin)

DirkH
January 14, 2012 5:26 am

Erinome says:
January 13, 2012 at 4:21 pm
“1. Climate models don’t predict, they project. Which of the 36 IPCC scenarios are you invoking, and which model’s assumptions are you using?

You used your EU Research Framework money well and grew a monster with 36 heads; falsify one and it grows two new. Erinome, that is not science, google for “unfalsifiability” and how it relates to scientific theories.
The difference between a projection and a prediction is that a prediction can be validated, a projection not. Again; this is not how scientific theories are handled; and the CAGW models thus do not deserve to be called scientific theories.
Maybe “numerical wankery” is an appropriate term. Or “make-work projects for redundant scientists”. But the best name for it is in my opinion “Dialectic Materialism”.

Otter
January 14, 2012 5:38 am

erinome…. wasn’t there a dragon movie by that name? Or something like that… I recall it wasn’t very good, wasn’t very memorable, and fell flat on its’ face. Repeatedly.

Otter
January 14, 2012 5:50 am

Or perhaps that was Error Gnome…. he was the wizard’s assistant, but he could never quite keep people from looking at the guy behind the curtain.

January 14, 2012 7:37 am

A projection is an illustration of what would happen if (long list of assumptions). Its utility, if any, depends on the clarity and relevance of the assumptions.
Hence the valuelessness of the AGW speculative projections.

A physicist
January 14, 2012 7:49 am

A physicist says: Hmmm … one skeptical predictor beat one nonskeptical predictor “by a nose”.
One the other hand, it appears that a whole pack of Arctic scientists each beat a WattsUpWithThat consensus prediction (second column from the right) by a country mile!
[…] The prediction business is a tough business, eh?

[REPLY: You will note that 10 of the 19 projections had ranges attached. The WUWT projection was off by 1.1 million Sq. Kilometers. Two of the projections had ranges very much in excess of that. Both the Wang and Kauker model-based projections had upper limits exceeding the WUWT projection and the Peterson model projection had a lower limit that was 1.6 million Sq. K too low. I’d say the amateurs at WUWT didn’t do too badly. -REP]

REP, I agree entirely with your well-written summary.
But although Anthony and the WUWT posters didn’t do badly in their predictions, the evident fact is, the scientists did considerably better.
Now climatologists are on-record predicting that numerous key “hockey stick” changes are going to accelerate in coming years. Among the “hockey sticks” are these seven: warming global temperatures, increased Arctic sea-ice melting, accelerating Greenland ice mass loss, similar mass-loss in Antarctica, accompanied by steady increases in the rate of sea-level rise, extreme land temperature records, and the incidence extreme drought conditions.
Are these seven key “hockey stick” predictions right? To assert: “There is zero chance that climate “hockey stick” changes will accelerate” is a kind of skepticism to be sure …
…  but zero-chance skepticism is not rational skepticism, eh?
It seems (to me) that rational skepticism needs to develop a “Plan B” to encompass the (sobering yet plausible) possibility that the scientists are right (again), such that the seven key climate “hockey sticks” do accelerate.
A key question therefore is: What will be rational skepticism’ “Plan B”?
And one more very important prediction is at-issue today … please let me go on-record as confidently predicting for tonight … yet another thrilling Tebow/Broncos victory over Brady/New England!   🙂   🙂   🙂

Otter
January 14, 2012 9:41 am

A Fizz said~warming global temperatures, increased Arctic sea-ice melting, accelerating Greenland ice mass loss, similar mass-loss in Antarctica, accompanied by steady increases in the rate of sea-level rise, extreme land temperature records, and the incidence extreme drought conditions.
1. That’s what’s been happening, up until 15 years ago.
2. We’re seeing cycles in the Arctic ice, so not sure what you are saying there.
3. Recent work has shown that the central mass of the Greenland ice sheet is accumulating almost as much as is melting, and that is due to go the other way.
4. New research has shown that Antarctica isn’t going anywhere, anytime, anyhow.
5. Sea levels have been falling.
6. Only if one lives in Death Valley.
7. Australia is living proof that that assumption is a Crock. Oh, and droughts are also cyclic. And happen in cooling periods, also.
They’ve been yakking about ‘acceleration’ for 30 years, NO SIGN of it yet.

HAS
January 14, 2012 10:08 am

Some European January 14, 2012 at 4:37 am
Quoting Jones on statistical significance “Yes, but only just. I also calculated the trend for the period 1995 to 2009. This trend (0.12C per decade) is positive, but not significant at the 95% significance level. The positive trend is quite close to the significance level. Achieving statistical significance in scientific terms is much more likely for longer periods, and much less likely for shorter periods.”
If you refer to my first comment on this thread you will see the warming over this period was not even significant at the 60% level. You need to around another 10 years to the period (1985 to 2009) to get 95% significance.
Jones doesn’t understand the statistical nature of the temperature time series and tests of statistical significance on it.

Bill H
January 14, 2012 10:22 am

Rhys Jaggar says:
January 13, 2012 at 7:35 am
As to where things go from now?
Influences:
1. Solar – still unclear whether the two solar cycle decrease in output will really happen – if it does, contributes to cooling to 2035.
2. Oceanic – PDO now in cool mode with AMO going that way soon. Predict cooling contribution until 2025/2030.
Overall, I’d say likelihood is for further stasis or, more likely, cooling until 2030. After that, it will depend significantly on what the sun decides to do……
_____________________________________________________________
AH the ultimate warmer…. THE SUN….
Funny that just prior to all previous cooling trends there is a spike and then a time of equilibrium (flat line). Except for volcanic or meteorite causes its pretty standard cyclical response. Why is it this is ignored by the alarmists? ( I know, rhetorical question as its a power grab. The people allow it because its the “only way ” to stop some false flag calamity)..
AND NOW WE GOT US A COOLING PARTICLE EMITTED BY BURNING FOSSIL Fuels and allowing plants to live…
these alarmists are so wound up that dont know if they are coming or going… and they make NO SENSE.. at all..

A physicist
January 14, 2012 10:22 am

A physicist said: warming global temperatures, increased Arctic sea-ice melting, accelerating Greenland ice mass loss, similar mass-loss in Antarctica, accompanied by steady increases in the rate of sea-level rise, extreme land temperature records, and the incidence extreme drought conditions.

Otter says:
1. That’s what’s been happening, up until 15 years ago.
2. We’re seeing cycles in the Arctic ice, so not sure what you are saying there.
3. Recent work has shown that the central mass of the Greenland ice sheet is accumulating almost as much as is melting, and that is due to go the other way.
4. New research has shown that Antarctica isn’t going anywhere, anytime, anyhow.
5. Sea levels have been falling.
6. Only if one lives in Death Valley.
7. Australia is living proof that that assumption is a Crock. Oh, and droughts are also cyclic. And happen in cooling periods, also.
They’ve been yakking about ‘acceleration’ for 30 years, NO SIGN of it yet.

Otter, the consensus among professional oceanographers (public, private, and naval alike) is the opposite: Climate and Sea Level: An Emerging Hockey Stick. James Hansen (and many other scientists) are on-record as predicting that this rise will accelerate, reaching levels later in this century that will impact billions of people.
The larger point is, all seven of the climate “hockey sticks” are coupled: if any one hockey stick accelerates, then it is likely that all seven hockey sticks will accelerate.
That is why rational skepticism needs a “Plan B”, in the event that climate change hockey-stick acceleration really happens.

Stephen Richards
January 14, 2012 11:18 am

A Physicist who isn’t of course. Still up to your usual tricks, eh? Seen Hansens latest video? That’s sanity?

Stephen Richards
January 14, 2012 11:20 am

That is why rational skepticism needs a “Plan B”, in the event that climate change hockey-stick acceleration really happens.
According to your rather unbalanced team member the acceleration is already in place but only he can see it.

Bill H
January 14, 2012 12:07 pm

A physicist says:
January 14, 2012 at 10:22 am
“the consensus among professional oceanographers ”
“The larger point is, all seven of the climate “hockey sticks” are coupled: if any one hockey stick accelerates, then it is likely that all seven hockey sticks will accelerate.”
______________________________________________________________
Hansen ET Al HOKEY TEAM!!!
taking one to many to the head renders one susceptible to illusions that only they can see….

the gis of death
January 14, 2012 1:59 pm

For anyone wondering why gistemp is taking so long, I suspect the 2011 annual average is lower than what they expected.
The temperature drop could be as much as 0.16 C. I suspect part of the reason is the love /hate relationship between gistemp and its scorching love child, Australia.
Australia has just recorded its 50th warmest year on record. Although the results are preliminary:
http://www.bom.gov.au/announcements/media_releases/climate/change/20120104.shtml
Its unlikely it will change much now they have released the numbers. Gistemp and Australia have a robust relationship, and as much as 56 % of the variance in gistemp can be explained by Australian anomalies.
That’s why gistemp is late in my opinion, the once reliable warmist relationship between Australia and Hanson just turned sour.

Bob B
January 14, 2012 4:38 pm

I don’t see much in the news about this. Annan should have his nose rubbed in the steaming pile of crap which is AGW alarmism.

Nick Kermode
January 14, 2012 4:44 pm

Duster says:
January 13, 2012 at 2:46 pm
“If it weren’t for the extremely cool anomaly of 2008, the trend line on that chart would be downward rather than upward.”
Sure about that? That’s like saying if you take the ice out of your drink it will get cooler.

January 14, 2012 8:58 pm

[snip -nice try Dave]

Larry Fields
January 15, 2012 3:36 am

Just to show how open-minded and sporting I am, “Larry the Greek” volunteer to make a slightly modified wager with Dr Annan. Cooling trend, I win. Warming trend, you lose. No trend, BBC pays us both.