Tisdale takes on Tamino's Foster & Rahmstorf 2011

On Foster and Rahmstorf 2011 – Global temperature evolution 1979–2010

Guest post by Bob Tisdale

Note (May 23, 2013):  Update 3 appeared in the cross post at my blog but not here at WUWT.  I’ve added it here.

UPDATE 3 (January 14, 2012): I displayed my very limited understanding of statistics in this post. This was pointed out to me a great number times by many different people in numerous comments received in the WattsUpWithThat cross post.The errors in that initial portion of the post were so many and so great that they detracted from the bulk of the post, which was about the El Niño-Southern Oscillation. Please disregard this post and the WUWT cross post, and any other cross posts that may exist.

I have reissued the ENSO-related portion of the post herewith a number of additions. If Anthony Watts cross posts the new version at WattsUpWithThat, I’ll provide a link here.

Originally, when I wrote the post about Foster and Rahmstorf (2011), I had not included my error-filled discussion about their regression analysis. That was a last minute addition. Lesson learned.

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UPDATE 2 (January 5, 2012): PLEASE READ. Three things: First, I did not understand that a “linear time trend” used by Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) is different than a “linear trend”. My confusion also led to confusion for many bloggers who read my post and who commented on the WattsUpWithThat cross post. My apologies. For those interested, the “linear time trend” is discussed under the heading of “Data as trend plus noise” on the Wikipedia Trend Estimationwebpage.

Second, in addition to MEI, AOD, and TSI as independent variables, I mistakenly used the values of the linear trend, which EXCEL calculated with its LINEST function from the monthly GISS data, as the fourth independent variable. And this added to the confusion of those who were interpreting the equations. In retrospect, I should not have included the equations. I should have included a table that listed the coefficients instead.

Third, in my haste to publish this post, I failed to explain the steps I used to process the data, and it may have been confusing to those who were looking at equations and graphs. I performed the regression analyses with the “raw” monthly data; then using the resulting coefficients, I made the adjustments to the monthly data. (I had prepared a graph using monthly data, similar to F&R’s Figure 4, with 1979-2010 as base years. But I felt my version was an unintelligible spaghetti graph with little value, so I didn’t include it.) I then converted the adjusted data to annual data; and last, changed the base years to 1979-2010.

The bottom line: Although I mistook a linear trend for a linear time trend, and although I did not include all of the additional data refinements used by Foster and Rahmstorf (2011), it’s difficult to see any difference between my Figure 7 and their Figure 5. There were other bloggers commenting on the thread of the WUWT cross post who got similar results using different methods. Does this mean the results of Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) are robust as some comments on the WUWT tread claimed? No. ENSO is a process, not an index, and it can’t be account for using linear regression analysis. This was illustrated clearly and discussed in detail under the heading of ENSO IS NOT AN EXOGENOUS FACTOR.

UPDATE 1 (January 3, 2012):  Under the heading of ENSO IS NOT AN EXOGENOUS FACTOR, I changed the wording of a sentence, crossing out  “create” and replacing it with “recharge”.—Thanks, Steve Allen.

OVERVIEW

This post examines a curious aspect of the multiple linear regression analysis performed by Foster and Rahmstorf in their 2011 paper “Global Temperature Evolution 1979–2010”. I find it very odd that a factor upon which the paper appears to rest was not presented in detail in it. Please understand right from the start, for this portion of the post, I am not implying that there is something wrong with this specific aspect of the paper; but I’m also not agreeing with it.  I’m presenting it for discussion.

The second part of this post is a discussion of one of the exogenous factors that Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) has attempted to remove. The problem: it is not an exogenous factor. And there is a third discussion about a dataset that’s present in the spreadsheet provided by the lead author Grant Foster (aka Tamino) but, curiously, not mentioned in the paper.

Not surprisingly, Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) made the rounds at the blogs of the proponents of anthropogenic global warming. Joe Romm praised it with the post Sorry, Deniers, Study of “True Global Warming Signal” Finds “Remarkably Steady” Rate of Manmade Warming Since 1979. SkepticalScience covered the paper in their post Foster and Rahmstorf Measure the Global Warming Signal. And RealClimate gave it an honorable mention by including it as one of the topics in its Global Temperature News post.

INTRODUCTION

Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) attempted to remove from 5 global temperature datasets the linear effects of 3 factors that are known to cause variations in global temperature.

They covered the period of 1979 to 2010. The obvious intent of the paper is to show that anthropogenic global warming continues unabated in all of those datasets. The independent variables listed in the abstract of Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) are El Niño-Southern Oscillation, volcanic aerosols, and solar variations. Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) appears to be a much clarified version of Tamino’s (Grant Foster’s) January 20, 2011 post How Fast is Earth Warming?  After publication of the paper, Tamino discussed it in his post The Real Global Warming Signal and was kind enough to provide the source data and code in his post Data and Code for Foster & Rahmstorf 2011.  The data Tamino provided is available here.  It is a .zip file that Tamino has renamed a .xls file, as he explains, “in order to fool the wordpress software into believing that it’s an Excel file.” You will need to “Right Click and Save As” and then change the file name back to a .zip file in order to open it.

As noted above, in the abstract, Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) list the exogenous factors that are used as independent variables in the multiple regression analysis as “El Niño/southern oscillation, volcanic aerosols and solar variability.” Curiously, three paragraphs later, when they list the factors included in the multiple regression analysis again, Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) have added a fourth variable: linear trend. The last sentence of the third paragraph under the heading of “Introduction” reads:

“The influence of exogenous factors will be approximated by multiple regression of temperature against ENSO, volcanic influence, total solar irradiance (TSI) and a linear time trend to approximate the global warming that has occurred during the 32 years subject to analysis.”

But one of the bases for the paper is to illustrate how similar the trends are after the adjustments for ENSO, Total Solar Irradiance, and Volcanic Aerosols have been made, so including the linear trends of those datasets in the regression analysis seems odd. As a result, I went in search of another reason why Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) would have needed to include the linear trend in their regression analyses. As I note in the following, I’m using commercially available add-on software for EXCEL to perform the multiple regression analyses. Since I have no other means to verify the results, other than reproducing the results of one of their graphs, I’ll request that you confirm the following results if you have that capability.

WHY DID FOSTER & RAHMSTORF NEED TO INCLUDE A LINEAR TREND IN THE MULTIPLE REGRESSION ANALYSIS?

The only reason that I can see that Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) needed to include the trend in the multiple regression analysis is, the adjustment factor for the solar data is the wrong sign when the multiple regression analysis uses only ENSO, Solar, and Volcanic Aerosol data as independent variables.  Let me explain in more detail.  But again, please understand, for this portion of the post, I am not implying that there is something wrong with this specific aspect of the paper; and again, I’m also not agreeing with it.  I found this interesting.

With the data provided by Tamino, I used Analyse-It for EXCEL software to perform a multiple regression analysis. (For those with EXCEL who have no means to perform a multiple linear regression analysis and want to verify my results, Analyse-It is available free on a 30-day trial basis.) My initial analysis included Tamino’s favorite global Surface Temperature dataset GISS as the dependent variable and the Multivariate ENSO Index (MEI), the Total Solar Irradiance (PMOD), and the Volcanic Aerosol Optical Depth data (AOD) as the independent variables. I lagged the MEI data by four months, the PMOD data by one month, and the AOD data by seven months, in agreement with Table 1 of Foster and Rahmstorf (2011), which is also Table 1 in this post. And in this analysis, I did not include the GISTEMP linear trend as an independent variable.

Table 1

The multiple regression analysis using only the ENSO (MEI), Solar (PMOD), and Volcanic Aerosol (AOD) data resulted in Equation 1:

EQUATION 1:

GISS = 123.6 + 0.06769MEI(4m lag) – 0.09025TSI.PMOD(1m lag)– 3.837AOD (7m lag)

I highlighted the solar variable scaling factor in boldface to emphasize the fact that the sign is negative. It would need to be positive to reproduce the results of Foster and Rahmstorf (2011). The signs of the ENSO and volcanic aerosol factors are what one would expect, Figure 1. It’s only the sign of the solar coefficient that is the opposite of what Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) present, Figure 2 (which is their Figure 7).

Figure 1

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Figure 2

And that makes a monumental difference to the outcome of Foster and Rahmstorf (2011). If we adjust the GISS surface temperature data with the factors presented in Equation 1, then the rise is not continuous. Refer to Figure 3. The peak year for the adjusted GISS-based global Surface Temperature data is 2002.

Figure 3

To confirm the results of Foster and Rahmstorf (2011), I added the 0.167 deg C/Decade linear trend of the GISS global surface temperature anomaly data to the independent variables. The lags of the ENSO (MEI), Solar (PMOD), and Volcanic Aerosol (AOD) data remained the same as above.

The multiple regression analysis using the ENSO (MEI), Solar (PMOD), and Volcanic Aerosol (AOD) data and the linear trend resulted in Equation 2:

EQUATION 2:

GISS = -91.43 + 1.024Trend + 0.0761MEI(4m lag) + 0.06694TSI.PMOD(1m lag)– 2.334AOD (7m lag)

The sign of the Total Solar Irradiance coefficient now agrees with what Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) presented, as shown in Figure 4. Note that including the trend as an independent variable also influenced the scaling of the ENSO (MEI) and Volcanic Aerosol (AOD) data. It increased the scaling factor of the ENSO data a little, but decreased the scaling factor of Volcanic Aerosol significantly. Of course, the inclusion of the trend as an independent variable, with the change in sign of the Solar influence, also gives the adjusted GISS data results that Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) wanted, Figure 5, with the rise in temperature relatively steady over the 32 year period. And note that the trend of 0.172 deg C per decade is comparable to the findings of Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) shown in Table 1 for GISS data.

Figure 4

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Figure 5

Of course, I did not include [and Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) could not have included] the trend adjustment from Equation 2 when the corrected data was presented in Figure 5. If the trend adjustment was included, the corrected data would have no trend. That means, it appears Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) needed to include the trend of the GISTEMP data in the regression analysis only to assure the sign of the solar influence they sought.

Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) would have gotten similar scaling factors for the ENSO (MEI), Solar (PMOD), and Volcanic Aerosol (AOD) data if they had simply detrended the GISS Global Surface Temperature data.

EQUATION 3:

Detrended GISS = -86.31 + 0.0759MEI(4m lag) + 0.0632TSI.PMOD(1m lag) – 2.37AOD (7m lag)

REVERSED SIGN OF SOLAR INFLUENCE IS COMMON TO ALL GLOBAL TEMPERATURE DATASETS

Someone is bound to ask whether the GISS Global Surface Temperature dataset is the only dataset with these results. The answer is no. If the linear trend is not included in the multiple linear regression analyses, the sign of the solar coefficient is the opposite of what Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) would had to have used for the NCDC and HADCRUT global land plus sea surface temperature datasets and for the RSS and UAH global Lower Troposphere Temperature data. The resulting equations from the linear regression analyses of the other datasets are presented in equations 4 through 7. The lags for the independent variables are as listed in Table 1 above:

EQUATION 4 (NCDC Land Plus Ocean Surface Temperature):

NCDC = 109.1 + 0.05495MEI(2m lag) – 0.0796TSI.PMOD(1m lag)– 3.113AOD (5m lag)

EQUATION 5 (Hadley Centre HADCRUT Global Surface Temperature Anomalies):

HadCRUT3v = 92.21 + 0.06421MEI(3m lag) – 0.0673TSI.PMOD(1m lag)– 3.293AOD (6m lag)

EQUATION 6 (RSS MSU Lower Troposphere Temperature Anomalies):

RSS33 = 61.44 + 0.1285MEI(5m lag) – 0.04489TSI.PMOD(0m lag)– 4.863AOD (5m lag)

EQUATION 7 (UAH MSU Lower Troposphere Temperature Anomalies):

UAH = 72.94 + 0.1332MEI(5m lag) – 0.05338TSI.PMOD(0m lag)– 5.139AOD (6m lag)

If we use those coefficients, the five datasets do not produce the nice continuous rise in Global Temperatures that Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) wanted to present, as shown in Figure 6. For the three Surface Temperature anomaly datasets (GISS, HADCRUT, NCDC) 2002 has the highest temperature. It’s only the two Lower Troposphere Temperature anomaly datasets that have 2010 as the warmest year.

Figure 6

And as one would expect, if the linear trends of the other global temperature datasets are included in the independent variables, the signs of the solar coefficients are positive. Refer to equations 8 through 11.

EQUATION 8 (NCDC Land Plus Ocean Surface Temperature, with trend):

NCDC = -106.7 + 1.085Trend + 0.06832MEI(2m lag) + 0.07813TSI.PMOD(1m lag)– 1.68AOD (5m lag)

EQUATION 9 (Hadley Centre HADCRUT Global Surface Temperature Anomalies, with trend):

HadCRUT3v = -119.2 + 1.093Trend + 0.07519MEI(3m lag) + 0.08723TSI.PMOD(1m lag)– 1.858AOD (6m lag)

EQUATION 10 (RSS MSU Lower Troposphere Temperature Anomalies, with trend):

RSS33 = -135.5 + 1.05Trend + 0.1342MEI(5m lag) + 0.09923TSI.PMOD(0m lag)– 3.479AOD (5m lag)

EQUATION 11 (UAH MSU Lower Troposphere Temperature Anomalies, with trend):

UAH = -105.7 + 0.9953Trend + 0.1381MEI(5m lag) + 0.07742TSI.PMOD(0m lag)– 3.871AOD (6m lag)

With the linear trend included in the multiple regression analyses, the coefficients in the equations above provide the adjustments that Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) presented, Figure 7. I’ve included their Figure 5 as my Figure 8 as a reference.

Figure 7

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Figure 8

THE ASSUMPTION ABOUT THE LINEAR TREND

I’m sure some will attempt to argue that including the trend in the regression analyses is necessary since computer model-based studies have shown the rise in global surface temperature is caused by anthropogenic forcings during the period of 1979 to 2010. But of course, that argument assumes climate models can be used for determining the cause of the rise in Global Surface Temperatures during any period. We have recently illustrated and discussed that the climate models used by the IPCC in their 4th Assessment report have shown no skill at reproducing the global surface temperatures over any period during the 20th Century. Refer to the summary post ON THE IPCC’s UNDUE CONFIDENCE IN COUPLED OCEAN-ATMOSPHERE CLIMATE MODELS – A SUMMARY OF RECENT POSTS.  The second problem with their assumption is that the global oceans, which cover about 70% of the surface area of the globe, show no signs of the influence of anthropogenic global warming during the satellite era. And that brings us to…

ENSO IS NOT AN EXOGENOUS FACTOR

Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) included ENSO as one of the exogenous factors they attempted to remove from the instrument temperature record. But ENSO is not an exogenous factor. ENSO is a coupled ocean-atmosphere process that periodically discharges heat to the atmosphere during an El Niño. The El Niño causes changes in atmospheric circulation patterns, which cause temperatures outside of the eastern tropical Pacific to vary, some warming, some cooling, but in total, the areas that warm exceed those that cool and global surface temperatures rise in response to an El Niño. The patterns of warming and cooling during a La Niña are similar to an El Niño, but the signs are reversed. And that’s really all that a paper such as Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) could hope to account for including ENSO in the regression analysis. But there is much more to ENSO.

ENSO is also a process that redistributes the warm water that was leftover from the El Niño itself and enhances the redistribution of the warm water that was created by the El Niño outside of the eastern tropical Pacific. The redistribution carries that warm water poleward and into adjoining ocean basins during the La Niña that follows an El Niño. La Niña events also recharge part of the warm water that was released during the El Niño. Sometimes La Niña events “overcharge” the tropical Pacific, inasmuch as they create recharge more tropical Pacific ocean heat than was discharged during the El Niño that came before it. That was the case during the 1973/74/75/76 and 1995/96 La Niña events. Refer to Figure 9. The 1973/94/75/76 La Niña provided the initial “fuel” for the 1982/83 Super El Niño and the multi-year 1986/87/88 El Niño. And the 1997/98 “El Niño of the Century” was fueled by the 1995/96 La Niña. The process of ENSO cannot be accounted for through linear regression on an index. This was illustrated and discussed at an introductory level in the post ENSO Indices Do Not Represent The Process Of ENSO Or Its Impact On Global Temperature.

Figure 9

Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) cited Trenberth et al (2002) Evolution of El Nino–Southern Oscillation and global atmospheric surface temperatures as one of their ENSO references. But Trenberth et al (2002) include the following disclaimer in the second paragraph of their Conclusions, (their paragraph 52, my boldface):

The main tool used in this study is correlation and regression analysis that, through least squares fitting, tends to emphasize the larger events. This seems appropriate as it is in those events that the signal is clearly larger than the noise. Moreover, the method properly weights each event (unlike many composite analyses). Although it is possible to use regression to eliminate the linear portion of the global mean temperature signal associated with ENSO, the processes that contribute regionally to the global mean differ considerably, and the linear approach likely leaves an ENSO residual.

The ENSO “residuals” are a significant contributor to the rise in Global Sea Surface Temperatures during the satellite era as we shall see. Did Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) consider these residuals in their analysis? Nope. They assumed the rise was caused by anthropogenic forcing, and they assumed a linear trend represented it.

A more recent paper was overlooked by Foster and Rahmstorf (2011). Compo and Sardeshmukh (2010) “Removing ENSO-Related Variations from the Climate Record” seems to be a step in the right direction. They write (my boldface):

An important question in assessing twentieth-century climate is to what extent have ENSO-related variations contributed to the observed trends. Isolating such contributions is challenging for several reasons, including ambiguities arising from how ENSO is defined. In particular, defining ENSO in terms of a single index and ENSO-related variations in terms of regressions on that index, as done in many previous studies, can lead to wrong conclusions. This paper argues that ENSO is best viewed not as a number but as an evolving dynamical process for this purpose.

And as Compo and Sardeshmukh have suggested, Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) have reached the wrong conclusion.

Note: Compo and Sardeshmukh missed a very important aspect of ENSO. They overlooked the significance of the huge volume of warm water that is left over from El Niño events and they failed to account for its contribution to the rise in global Sea Surface Temperature anomalies since about 1976.

Let’s not forget the much-heralded Thompson et al (2008) paper “Identifying signatures of natural climate variability in time series of global-mean surface temperature: Methodology and Insights.  Thompson et al (2008) is the basis for the new and improved HADSST3 global sea surface temperature anomaly dataset from the Hadley Centre. Thompson et al (2008), like Foster and Rahmstorf (2011), is flawed because they attempt to remove the ENSO signal from the Global Surface Temperature record and claim the remainder of the rise in surface temperature is caused by anthropogenic forcings. In the Introduction, Thompson et al (2008) write (my boldface):

In this study we exploit a series of novel methodologies to identify and filter out of the unsmoothed monthly mean time series of global-mean land and ocean temperatures the variance associated with ENSO, dynamically induced atmospheric variability, and volcanic eruptions. The impacts of ENSO and volcanic eruptions on global-mean temperature are estimated using a simple thermodynamic model of the global atmospheric–oceanic mixed layer response to anomalous heating. In the case of ENSO, the heating is assumed to be proportional to the sea surface temperature anomalies over the eastern Pacific…”

That is a monumental assumption, and it’s the same flawed assumption made by Foster and Rahmstorf (2011).

But it was that specific language in Thompson et al (2008) that caused me to divide the Sea Surface Temperature anomalies of the Global Oceans into the two subsets, and those were the East Pacific from pole to pole (90S-90N, 180-80W) and of the Rest-Of-World (Atlantic-Indian-West Pacific) from pole to pole (90S-90N, 80W-180). And by coincidence, I used the Sea Surface Temperature dataset (Reynolds OI.v2) that’s used in the GISS Land-Ocean Temperature Index, which is Tamino’s favorite global Surface Temperature anomaly dataset. I first presented the Sea Surface Temperature for those two subsets in the March 3, 2011 post Sea Surface Temperature Anomalies – East Pacific Versus The Rest Of The World.  (For those who are interested, there are about a dozen additional posts that discuss ENSO and the multiyear aftereffects of specific ENSO events linked at the end of that post.)

The East Pacific Sea Surface Temperature anomalies from pole to pole, Figure 10, are dominated by the variations in tropical Pacific caused by ENSO, and as a result, the variations in the East Pacific Sea Surface Temperature anomalies mimic ENSO, represented by the scaled NINO3.4 Sea Surface Temperature anomalies. The trend of the East Pacific Sea Surface Temperature anomalies is relatively flat at 0.011 deg C/Decade.

Figure 10

The reason the trend is so flat: warm water from the surface and below the surface of the western Pacific Warm Pool is carried eastward during an El Niño and spread across the surface of the eastern tropical Pacific, raising sea surface temperatures there. And during the La Niña events that follow El Niño events, the leftover warm water is returned to the western tropical Pacific. Due to the increased strength of the trade winds during the La Nina, there is an increase in upwelling of cool subsurface waters in the eastern equatorial Pacific, so the Sea Surface Temperatures there drop. In other words, the East Pacific is simply a temporary staging area for the warm water of an El Niño event. Warm water sloshes into this dataset from the western tropical Pacific and releases heat, and then the warm water sloshes back out.

But the warm waters released from below the surface of the West Pacific Warm Pool during the El Niño are not done impacting Sea Surface Temperatures throughout the global oceans, and they cannot be accounted for by an ENSO index. That leftover warm water is returned to the West Pacific during a La Niña event that follows an El Niño, much of it remaining on the surface. The Sea Surface Temperature in the western Pacific rises as a result. At approximately 10N latitude, a slow-moving Rossby wave also carries leftover warm water from the eastern tropical Pacific back to the western Pacific during the La Niña. Ocean currents carry the warm water poleward to the Kuroshio-Oyashio Extension (KOE) east of Japan and to the South Pacific Convergence Zone (SPCZ) east of Australia, and the Indonesian Throughflow (an ocean current) carries the warm water into the tropical Indian Ocean. And as noted above, due to the increased strength of the trade winds during the La Nina, there is an increase in upwelling of cool subsurface waters in the eastern equatorial Pacific, so the Sea Surface Temperatures there drop. But that cooler-than-normal water is quickly warmed during the La Niña as it is carried west by the stronger-than-normal ocean currents that are caused by the stronger-than-normal trade winds. And the reason that water warms so quickly as it is carried west is because the stronger-than-normal trade winds reduce cloud cover, and this allows more downward shortwave radiation (visible sunlight) to warm the ocean to depth. This additional warm water helps to maintain the Sea Surface Temperatures in the West Pacific and East Indian Oceans at elevated levels during the La Niña and it also recharges the West Pacific Warm Pool for the next El Niño event. Refer again to Figure 9, but keep in mind that it presents the Ocean Heat Content for the entire tropical Pacific, not just the Pacific Warm Pool.

And what happens when a major El Niño event is followed by a La Niña event? The Sea Surface Temperature anomalies for the Atlantic, Indian, and West Pacific Oceans (the Rest-Of-The-World outside of the East Pacific) first rise in response to the El Niño; the 1986/87/88 and 1997/98 El Niño events. Then the Sea Surface Temperatures of the Atlantic, Indian, and West Pacific Oceans are maintained at elevated levels by the La Niña; the 1988/89 and 1998/99/00/01 La Niña events. The results are the apparent upward shifts in the Sea Surface Temperature anomalies of the Atlantic, Indian, and West Pacific Oceans from pole to pole (90S-90N, 80W-180), as illustrated in Figure 11.

Figure 11

The dip and rebound starting in 1991 is caused by the volcanic aerosols emitted by the explosive volcanic eruption of Mount Pinatubo. And the reason the Rest-Of-The-World Sea Surface Temperature anomalies respond so little to the 1982/83 Super El Niño is because that El Niño was counteracted by the eruption of El Chichon in 1982.

To assure readers that the upward shifts in Rest-Of-The-World Sea Surface Temperature anomalies coincide with the 1986/87/88 and 1997/98 El Niño events, I’ve included an ENSO index, NINO3.4 Sea Surface Temperature anomalies, in Figure 12. The NINO3.4 Sea Surface Temperature anomalies have been scaled (multiplied by a factor of 0.12) to allow for a better visual comparison and shifted back in time by 6 months to account for the time lag between the variations in NINO3.4 Sea Surface Temperature anomalies and the response of the Rest-Of-The-World data.

Figure 12

But the ENSO Index data is visually noisy and it detracts from the upward shifts, so in Figure 13 I’ve isolated the data between the significant El Niño events. To accomplish this, I used the NOAA Oceanic Nino Index (ONI) to determine the official months of those El Niño events. There is a 6-month lag between NINO3.4 SST anomalies and the response of the Rest-Of-The-World SST anomalies during the evolution phase of the 1997/98 El Niño. So the ONI data was lagged by six months, and the Rest-Of-The-World SST data that corresponded to the 1982/83, 1986/87/88, 1998/98, and 2009/10 El Niño events was excluded—left as black dashed lines. All other months of data remain.

Figure 13

And to help further highlight the upward shifts, the average Sea Surface Temperature anomalies between the major El Niño events are added in Figure 14.

Figure 14

Based on past posts where I’ve presented the same dataset, some comments suggest the period average temperatures are misleading and request that I illustrate the linear trends. Figure 15 illustrates how flat the trends are between the 1986/87/88 and 1997/98 El Niño events and between the 1997/98 and 2009/10 El Niño events.

Figure 15

Back to the East Pacific data: If we adjust the East Pacific Sea Surface Temperature anomalies for the effects of volcanic aerosols, Figure 16, the linear trend is slightly negative. In other words, for approximately 33% of the surface area of the global oceans, Sea Surface Temperature anomalies have not risen in 30 years.

Figure 16

Note: The method used to adjust for the volcanic eruptions is described in the post Sea Surface Temperature Anomalies – East Pacific Versus The Rest Of The World, under the heading of ACCOUNTING FOR THE IMPACTS OF VOLCANIC ERUPTIONS.

And if we adjust the Rest-Of-The-World Sea Surface Temperature anomalies for volcanic aerosols, Figure 17, we reduce the effects of the dip and rebound caused by the 1991 eruption of Mount Pinatubo. And the trend of the Rest-Of-The-World data between the 1986/87/88 and 1997/98 El Niño drops slightly compared to the unadjusted data (Figure 15), making it even flatter and slightly negative.

Figure 17

In summary, ENSO is a coupled ocean-atmosphere process and its effects on Global Surface Temperatures cannot be accounted for with linear regression of an ENSO index as attempted by Foster and Rahmstorf (2011)–and others before them. We can simply add Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) to the list of numerous papers that make the same error. Examples:

Lean and Rind (2009) How Will Earth’s Surface Temperature Change in Future Decades?

And:

Lean and Rind (2008) How Natural and Anthropogenic Influences Alter Global and Regional Surface Temperatures: 1889 to 2006

And:

Santer et al (2001), Accounting for the effects of volcanoes and ENSO in comparisons of modeled and observed temperature trends

And:

Thompson et al (2008), Identifying signatures of natural climate variability in time series of global-mean surface temperature: Methodology and Insights

And:

Trenberth et al (2002) Evolution of El Nino–Southern Oscillation and global atmospheric surface temperatures

And:

Wigley, T. M. L. (2000), ENSO, volcanoes, and record-breaking temperatures

Additionally, Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) assumed that the global warming signal is linear and that it is caused by anthropogenic forcings, but those assumptions are not supported by the satellite-era Sea Surface Temperature record as shown above. The global warming signal is not linear, and the El Niño events of 1986/87/88 and 1997/98 are shown to be the cause of the rise in sea surface temperatures, not anthropogenic greenhouse gases.

THE ATLANTIC MULTIDECADAL OSCILLATION

Those who have downloaded Tamino’s allfit2.xls file here (and changed it back to a .zip file) will notice that the data in Column AA is identified as “AMO”. And yes, that is Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation data from the NOAA Earth System Research Laboratory (ESRL) AMO website.

Note: The current AMO data and the data listed in Tamino’s file are slightly different. The reason: The ESRL AMO data is constantly evolving. Each month, when the new North Atlantic (0-70N, 80W-0) Sea Surface Temperature data are added, the data is detrended with the new data.

One could only speculate why Tamino included the AMO data in the spreadsheet–and why the data in the spreadsheet extends back to 1950, when the paper only deals with the period of 1979 to 2010. And one can also wonder why Tamino would include the ESRL AMO data, which is based on Kaplan North Atlantic Sea Surface Temperature anomaly data, when no surface temperature datasets (GISS, HADCRUT or NCDC) use Kaplan SST. It’s like subtracting the Hadley Centre’s CRUTEMP land surface temperature data from GISS LOTI data to determine the Sea Surface Temperature portion of GISTEMP LOTI data. The datasets are not the same. I’ve already pointed this error out to Tamino and his disciples in the post Comments On Tamino’s AMO Post.

But for example, let’s satisfy your curiosity. Let’s assume you were wondering what the results would be if you were to account for the impact of the AMO on Northern Hemisphere surface temperatures, using a linear regression analysis with the ESRL AMO data as the independent variable and with GISS Northern Hemisphere Surface Temperature data as the dependent variable. We’ll confine the example to the Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) time period of 1979 to 2010. Refer to Figure 18. The AMO-adjusted Northern Hemisphere surface Temperature has a linear trend that is only 41% of the unadjusted Northern Hemisphere data. Hmm. That would mean the AMO was responsible for 59% of the rise in Northern Hemisphere surface temperatures based on linear regression analysis.

Figure 18

And that’s in line with generalization made by Tamino’s associates at RealClimate in their Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation (“AMO”)webpage. There they write that the AMO is:

A multidecadal (50-80 year timescale) pattern of North Atlantic ocean-atmosphere variability whose existence has been argued for based on statistical analyses of observational and proxy climate data, and coupled Atmosphere-Ocean General Circulation Model (“AOGCM”) simulations. This pattern is believed to describe some of the observed early 20th century (1920s-1930s) high-latitude Northern Hemisphere warming and some, but not all, of the high-latitude warming observed in the late 20th century. The term was introduced in a summary by Kerr (2000) of a study by Delworth and Mann (2000).

59% is definitely “some, but not all”.

Tamino continues to complain that one can’t make adjustments for the AMO because it includes a global warming component. For example, in a response to a December 22, 2011 at 6:11 pm comment by Colin Aldridge,Tamino writes:

As for AMO, unlike ENSO (or PDO for that matter) it IS temperature. Pure and simple, nothing more nothing less. Attributing temperature change to temperature change seems kinda stupid.

Hmm. I believe Tamino misses the point that the AMO is a mode of additionalvariability and that it is detrended over the entire term of the data.

Further to this end, I discussed and illustrated for Tamino that we can subtract the “warming signal” of the Global Sea Surface Temperature anomalies excluding the North Atlantic from the North Atlantic Sea Surface Temperature anomalies. That way we’re left with only the additional variability of North Atlantic Sea Surface Temperature anomalies caused by the AMO. And that’s really how the AMO should be expressed. We’ll call the difference the North Atlantic Residual. The North Atlantic Residual has, approximately, the same trend as the AMO for the 1979 to 2010 period of Foster and Rahmstorf (2011), as shown in Figure 19.

Figure 19

Note: The North Atlantic Residual data presented in Figure 16 is based on the combination of HADISST data for the years 1979 to November 1981 and Reynolds OI.v2 SST data from December 1981 to present in agreement with the GISS recipe listed on their GISS Surface Temperature Analysis webpage. To remove the North Atlantic Sea Surface Temperature data from the Global data, the North Atlantic surface area for the coordinates of 0-70N, 80W-0 was determined to represent 11% of the surface area of the global oceans.

And as an additional check of the sign of the solar correction, I performed multiple linear regression analyses with GISS Northern Hemisphere Surface Temperature data as the dependent variable and using the AMO data as an independent variable in one instance and the North Atlantic Residual data in a second. The analyses also included the ENSO (MEI), Solar (PMOD), and Volcanic Aerosols (AOD.NH) as independent variables with the same lags as the global data. In both instances, the sign of the solar correction was the opposite of what Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) were looking for, as shown in equations 12 and 13:

EQUATION 12:

GISS.NH = 62.25 + 0.001696MEI (4m lag) – 0.04528TSI.PMOD(1m lag)– 1.683AOD.NH (7m lag) + 0.866AMO (0m lag)

EQUATION 13:

GISS.NH = 72.12 + 0.04751MEI (4m lag) – 0.05258TSI.PMOD(1m lag)– 2.413AOD.NH (7m lag) + 0.72N. Atl. Residual (0m lag)

A closing AMO note: For an additional discussion on how the North Atlantic impacts the Sea Surface Temperatures of the periods between the upward shifts caused by the 1986/87/88 and 1997/98 El Niño events, refer to the post Supplement To “ENSO Indices Do Not Represent The Process Of ENSO Or Its Impact On Global Temperature”.

CLOSING COMMENTS

I found the inclusion of a linear trend in the regression analyses performed by Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) to be very interesting. It appears the linear trends were included simply to cause a solar correction that was the sign the authors wanted for their adjustments. One might think, if the basic results of the paper were dependent on whether a linear trend was included in the multiple regression analyses, this would have been discussed in the paper.  And again, if you have the capability, and if you’re not satisfied with the similarities between my results and the Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) results (Figures 7 and 8), please confirm the multiple regression analyses results presented above with and without the linear trend.

This post also illustrated and discussed the error in their assumption that regression analysis can be used to remove the impacts of ENSO on Global Surface Temperature. ENSO is a process that is not fully represented by ENSO Indices. In other words, the ENSO indices only represent a small portion of the impacts of ENSO on Global Surface Temperatures. Attempting to use an ENSO index as Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) have done is like trying to provide the play-by-play for a baseball game solely from an overhead view of home plate.

The assumption made by Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) that a linear trend provides an approximate “global warming” signal was shown to be erroneous using Sea Surface Temperature data. When broken down into two logical subsets of the East Pacific and the Atlantic-Indian-West Pacific Oceans, Satellite-era Sea Surface Temperature data shows no evidence of an anthropogenic global warming signal. It only shows upward shifts associated with strong ENSO events. This would seem to complicate any attempt to justify the inclusion of the linear trend to reverse the sign of the solar adjustment.

And thanks to Tamino for including the Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation data in his spreadsheet. It allowed me to illustrate the significant impact the AMO can have on Northern Hemisphere surface temperatures.

Happy New Year to all.

ABOUT: Bob Tisdale – Climate Observations

SOURCES

The spreadsheet that served as the source of the data for the regression analyses was linked to Tamino’s (Grant Foster’s) post Data and Code for Foster & Rahmstorf 2011.

To save you some time, here’s a copy of the file that contains the spreadsheet from Tamino’s blog that I’ve uploaded to mine, allfit2 as of 12-21-11.  Again, you’ll have to download the file and change it to a .zip file in order to open it.

The Reynolds OI.v2 Sea Surface Temperature data used in the ENSO discussion is available through the NOAA NOMADS website here.

The Aerosol Optical Thickness data used in the volcano adjustments of the Sea Surface Temperature data in Figures 13 and 14 is available from GISS the Stratospheric Aerosol Optical Thickness webpage here.

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JPeden
January 5, 2012 11:05 am

Gneiss says:
January 5, 2012 at 5:50 am
JPeden writes,
“F&R can get the results they want, once they’ve also decided to make the solar forcing sign negative.”
Unfortunately this still gets it backwards.

Yes, I should have made it more clear that I was being sarcastic in saying that F&R “decided” to make the solar sign negative. Nor did I think that Bob was saying that they “decided” to do it – or that he owes them an apology.
But Climate Science does need to give up the pretense that they are doing real science. Or else, just how much damage to the World do you think the rest of us owe Climate Science in order for them to be adequately redressed for, or cured of their own personal problems?

Utahn
January 5, 2012 11:38 am

“But Climate Science does need to give up the pretense that they are doing real science. Or else, just how much damage to the World do you think the rest of us owe Climate Science in order for them to be adequately redressed for, or cured of their own personal problems?”
This is one of the purest examples of projection I have ever seen. Can you see it, yourself? Who is doing real science here? Who is actually causing damage because of their own personal issues?
I don’t blame you for this, and I don’t know what to do about it, but it is striking, and should be noted, and I hope it will help something, somehow…

Gneiss
January 5, 2012 12:07 pm

JPeden writes,
“Yes, I should have made it more clear that I was being sarcastic in saying that F&R “decided” to make the solar sign negative.”
Calling it sarcastic doesn’t make this work either. First of all, Tisdale claimed that F&R included a trend to make the solar sign positive. Second, Tisdale was not correct in this assertion, which resulted from his own inexperience. Third, although not understanding it you wrote that his confused analysis was “most excellent.” And fourth, after all of that you conclude
“But Climate Science does need to give up the pretense that they are doing real science.”

Editor
January 5, 2012 12:46 pm

ferd berple says: “The law of large numbers says that random fluctuations should cancel out over time. So if their regression is accurately describing the real world, then their temperature forecasts should become more accurate the further back they hindcast.”
My earlier comment that you quoted…
But I disagree that F&R’s results are robust for the simple reason that they assumed including an ENSO index in their regression analyses would eliminate the effects of ENSO on global surface temperatures
…indicated that F&R’s regression is not accurately describing the real world. The second part of my post under the heading of ENSO IS NOT AN EXOGENOUS FACTOR clearly discussed and illustrated this fact.

Wayne2
January 5, 2012 1:10 pm

@Gneiss: I had a go. Of course, CO2 levels are basically rising linearly, so there’s not much difference between tau and co2 (correlation 0.997). I also swapped in mean sunspot numbers for solar.
One thing I do notice when plotting the fitted results is that it more clearly shows (eyeballing it) a possible huge jump in 1989/1999 that is very curious. Perhaps the “1997/98 ‘El Niño of the Century'” that Bob mentioned really did cause a step up? That is, perhaps the effect of ENSO is not linear at all?

Gneiss
January 5, 2012 1:38 pm

Wayne2 writes,
“@Gneiss: I had a go. Of course, CO2 levels are basically rising linearly, so there’s not much difference between tau and co2 (correlation 0.997).”
Exactly so, that’s what I found too — when I wrote this, I’d just tried it:
Gneiss @January 3, 2012 at 12:06 pm :
“CO2 and year, on the other hand, really are collinear over these years. Which means it would make little difference to include CO2 but not year as a predictor, or vice versa. Put another way, year serves well enough as a proxy for CO2, over 1979-2010.”
Wayne2 again,
“I also swapped in mean sunspot numbers for solar.”
F&R said they did that so I didn’t try. I did try Leif’s suggested correction to TSI, and that seems to make a small difference to the TSI coefficient but none to the trend.

Duster
January 5, 2012 3:58 pm

… C/decade/yr
What in the name of rationality is that measure: “0.0006 C/decade/yr”??? It appears to be a nonsense term. As far as I can see it can be rewritten as “… C/10yr/yr” or ” … C/10″ since the years would cancel. If that is correct, there is no time unit remaining. In short it would be a constant value 0.00006 C.

JPeden
January 5, 2012 7:38 pm

Utahn says:
January 5, 2012 at 11:38 am
“Who is doing real science here?”
My point is that it isn’t Climate “Science”.
“Who is actually causing damage because of their own personal issues?”
My point is that it is Climate “Science” and its cohorts of radical “Environmentalists”, save-the-worlders, Communists, other Totalitarians, and, of course, the Looters who they attract.
“I don’t blame you for this….”
Thanks.

JPeden
January 5, 2012 7:58 pm

Gneiss says:
January 5, 2012 at 12:07 pm
JPeden writes….
“But Climate Science does need to give up the pretense that they are doing real science.”

Yes, Climate Science’s CO2 = CAGW hypotheses have not produced even one relevant correct empirical prediction yet. And these hypotheses cannot even “explain” or postdict the past, except perhaps as an occasional modify-to-fit-as-needed exercise, only appearing to make CO2 a significant climate driver, instead of an essentially unnecessary factor. Therefore, Climate Science’s pretense of doing real science is all they have left, which is about the same as the situation was by at least the time of the TAR. All Climate Science has left is its massive Propaganda Op..

January 5, 2012 11:09 pm

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Leif Svalgaard says:
January 5, 2012 at 12:57 am
Geoff Sharp says:
January 4, 2012 at 11:48 pm
Most authors speak of UV in general of which EUV is one part of the spectrum. It stands to reason as I have outlined that any process of ozone creation in the mesosphere will involve UV radiation at values lower than 242 nm. EUV is a big part of that spectrum (50%).
——————-
None of them mention EUV. EUV doesn’t reach the mesosphere.

Could you comment on the graph provided.
http://tinyurl.com/2dg9u22/images/EUV_heights.png

January 6, 2012 2:43 am

Geoff Sharp says:
January 5, 2012 at 11:09 pm
Could you comment on the graph provided.
http://tinyurl.com/2dg9u22/images/EUV_heights.png

Certainly, it shows that EUV does not reach the mesosphere and is not involved in the production of O3. There is no ozone in the thermosphere.

January 6, 2012 5:51 am

Leif Svalgaard says:
January 6, 2012 at 2:43 am
Certainly, it shows that EUV does not reach the mesosphere and is not involved in the production of O3. There is no ozone in the thermosphere.
No you are very wrong. It shows that EUV at 120nm can ionize the oxygen molecules to produce ozone at levels lower than 85km. Ozone exists in reasonable quantities in both the mesosphere and the lower thermosphere (MLT). links will be provided tomorrow.
I also have an interesting paper that reports on the heavy downwelling of atomic oxygen from the lower thermosphere into the mesosphere that then goes on to form ozone. You are no “big boy” in the climate field that’s for sure. Are you still game to stand up in front of your workshop and proclaim EUV is not involved in any fashion to form ozone?

Utahn
January 6, 2012 6:35 am

JPeden re: “real science”
Given your uncritical acceptance of Tisdale’s flawed analysis (laudably admitted in updates above), I’d say your credibility is low as a judge of what is “real science” versus what is the “pretense” of science.

Wayne2
January 6, 2012 7:16 am

@Gneiss: For what it’s worth, I also get a reasonable fit when I substitute a sine wave with a period of 100 years instead of a linear trend. This sine wave hit a minimum in 1964 and peaks in 2014. Of course, no physical basis for 100 years (perhaps 60 or 120, from what I read), but I get 3 stars on my coefficients. (ACF not perfect, Q-Q Plot good, etc.)
Still, about as much basis as a linear increase, no?

Wayne2
January 6, 2012 7:25 am

: Thanks for the corrections at the top of your article. That’s a good sign in terms of your integrity.
I would add that I think the issue was not “linear time trend” but rather the difference between “a linear trend” and “the linear trend”, and not being familiar with how time series analysis works, combined with not knowing enough R to see what F&R did in their code.
Your argument regarding F&R’s use of ENSO still seems strong. And I think that there’s a reasonable argument against accepting a linear trend, which won’t extrapolate in either direction, as a model for “warming”. Those are physical arguments that are the foundation of their article. Given their assumptions are true, their statistics was quite reasonable. (Its my impression that the F&R was dominated by “F”, with not enough thought by “R”.)

Editor
January 6, 2012 7:43 am

Utahn, there are three topics discussed in the post above. The first has to do with statistics, not climate science. I admitted my mistake, but reminded readers that it had little to no impact on my results since they were a visual match for Foster and Rahmstorf (2011). The second and third topics dealt with natural climate variables, which one should categorize as climate science. There I made no mistakes and clearly illustrated the faults in Foster and Rahmstorf (2011).

Editor
January 6, 2012 7:45 am

As always, thanks, Anthony.

January 6, 2012 7:52 am

Geoff Sharp says:
January 6, 2012 at 5:51 am
Are you still game to stand up in front of your workshop and proclaim EUV is not involved in any fashion to form ozone?
Of course. But note your weasel words “in any fashion”. If the EUV produces 1 of a million molecules of ozone, that is ‘any fashion’, but not of interest in the overall budget.

Gneiss
January 6, 2012 8:10 am

in Update 2, Bob Tisdale writes:
“First, I did not understand that a “linear time trend” used by Foster and Rahmstorf (2011) is different than a “linear trend”.”
No, they are the same thing. What you did/do not understand is the difference between regression coefficients and regression predicted values, both of which accompany any kind of regression. You believed “include a linear trend” means “include predicted values from the regression of y on time among the predictors of y,” when it actually just means “include time as a predictor of y.” That mistake results in an uninterpretable coefficient on the time-related term, and a regression equation that looks silly (although you could algebraically reduce it to the right one).
“I should not have included the equations. I should have included a table that listed the coefficients instead.”
No, the key coefficient (on your time-related term) is just as obviously wrong whether it is in an equation or a table. Or are you saying you could have hidden this, if you just showed a table without that particular coefficient?
“The bottom line: Although I mistook a linear trend for a linear time trend, and although I did not include all of the additional data refinements used by Foster and Rahmstorf (2011), it’s difficult to see any difference between my Figure 7 and their Figure 5.”
But that’s not the bottom line:
– A linear time trend is a linear trend.
– Predicted values are the same under any linear rescaling of the same predictors. You include {GISS predicted from time} as a predictor in your multiple regression. Since {GISS predicted from time} is a linear function of time, this produces a nonsensical coefficient, a silly looking equation, but exactly the same predicted values of GISS as if you’d included just time instead of {GISS predicted from time} among your multiple-regression predictors.
But there’s a forest-through-the trees mistake that neither update addresses. The main point in the first half of your post was to claim that F&R had snuck in that time trend because otherwise the coefficient on TSI would be negative. You have not yet acknowledged that every piece of this accusation was false.
– They were very clear about the inclusions of time, which was the whole point of their article. You just do not understand it.
– The equation you offer with a negative TSI coefficient is so obviously misspecified that no experienced data analyst would propose it.
– There is a substantive reason why your TSI coefficient is negative when you fit the meaningless model. Before publishing insinuations about F&R’s motives, you should have figured out what this reason is. It’s quite simple, and mentioned already in this thread.

Gneiss
January 6, 2012 8:24 am

Wayne2 writes,
“For what it’s worth, I also get a reasonable fit when I substitute a sine wave with a period of 100 years instead of a linear trend.”
You’d get an even better fit with a 6th-order polynomial, and hey we could improve on that with a 7th!
This goes back to an earlier point. You wrote something about F&R not having proved that a linear model fit better than a nonlinear one, and I wrote that is putting it backwards.

Utahn
January 6, 2012 8:54 am

Bob: “There I made no mistakes and clearly illustrated the faults in Foster and Rahmstorf (2011).”
My life would be so much more relaxed I could muster that level of certainty in my correctness.
In any case JPeden uncritically accepted your since admitted error, yet felt free to use it as justification to smear an entire field of science as “pretense”. My assessment of his lack of credibility in assessing what is “real science” is very likely accurate.

cope
January 6, 2012 12:03 pm

Gneiss,
Instead of beating a dead horse about the linear trend treatment (no-one is now seriously questioning the proprietary of this), how about addressing the core BT argument of ENSO not being an index?
It was clear from one of your earlier comments that you had not bothered to fully read BT’s post (not that you acknowledged this). I urge you to go back and read what BT wrote about ENSO.
F&R is certainly not junk science. It would be a reasonable and solid piece of analysis as a blog post. However, it is not a useful addition to the scientific literature. We have a paper published more than a year earlier, in a more prestigious journal, that dealt with ENSO in a far more sophisticated manner (Compo and Sardeshmukh – 2010). This paper further directly criticized the single index approach to ENSO, which was subsequently used by F&R. Whether by oversight or choice, F&R omitted to discuss the C&S paper. So far from advancing science, F&R is a step backwards. It is questionable whether it should have passed peer review and have been published. If it wasn’t for the high profile presence of Tamino in the blogosphere, I doubt anyone would be discussing this paper at all.

Gneiss
January 6, 2012 12:32 pm

cope writes,
“Instead of beating a dead horse”
I understand why you and Tisdale want to say “don’t look there, look over here,” but the horse is still kicking. Since you skipped this I’ll quote what I just said again:
“But there’s a forest-through-the trees mistake that neither update addresses. The main point in the first half of your post was to claim that F&R had snuck in that time trend because otherwise the coefficient on TSI would be negative. You have not yet acknowledged that every piece of this accusation was false.”
Do you acknowledge it was false? Has Tisdale? Has it been communicated with such clarity that even JPeden and others here who believed the original accusation now understand it was false? If so then I’ll call the horse dead too, and say something about ENSO.

Wayne2
January 6, 2012 1:46 pm

@Gneiss: If I mentioned something about the model fitting better, that was a mis-speak on my part. I’ve been harping on the (physical/causal) basis of a linear model, not how well it fits in a regression. Hence my statement about the sine: I have no physical basis for it, it doesn’t extrapolate backwards, but it fits reasonably in the short term and does what I want going forwards. The fact that it doesn’t extrapolate backwards gives me a hint that I won’t find a physical basis for it, but then the same could be said for F&R’s linear trend.
Except that a linear trend has been hallowed in the minds of many, because anything else faces the “oh, why don’t you just try a Nth-order polynomial, or N+1?” challenge which you’ve dutifully given. (Again, I’m being facetious in my sine wave observation, but I would also say that your sixth-order polynomial is way, way crazier than my sine wave.)
As I’ve said since my second posting in this thread, F&R’s statistics are good, it’s the model’s basis that I would question. It reeks of “First, we assume a spherical cow…” If only Bob had taken my advice.

cope
January 6, 2012 2:00 pm

Gneiss,
You are just being evasive. I stated quite clearly that I don’t believe there is anything wrong with the way F&R treated the time trend. I have never said anything different. However, I don’t believe F&R is a valuable addition to the scientific literature because of the ENSO treatment. This argument was also the single largest portion of BT’s post, but you seem to have missed / misread it based on your earlier comments. A mea culpa on your part would also not be amiss.