This was in our guest author queue, but I was never notified of its existence. Better late than never. – Anthony
Guest post by David Middleton…
EA: Warming may be irreversible by 2017
Published: Nov. 11, 2011LONDON, Nov. 11 (UPI) — Rising energy demands could result in irreversible global warming by 2017 without strict new standards, an energy watchdog group said this week in London.
The International Energy Agency said in its latest World Energy Outlook, released Wednesday, that a “remarkable” 5 percent jump in global primary energy demand last year pushed greenhouse gas emissions to a new high due to the rebound of the world’s economies following the 2008 financial crisis.
And that, it said, bodes ill for efforts to reach a long-term target of limiting the global average temperature increase to 2 degrees Celsius above pre-industrial levels — especially with moves by governments to shift resources away from developing clean energy technologies as more economic problems arise.
“Without further action by 2017, the energy-related infrastructure then in place would generate all the CO2 emissions allowed” to keep the temperature rise at 2 degrees or lower, the report said
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Oh good. Perhaps after 2017 the AGW people will go away.
Even though its too late to stop that dreadful 2 degree warming,
you can still stop an even more horrible warming of 10 degrees
if you just give us all the money and all the power.
What, you say? Sea-levels are falling and there’s no warming yet?
Well, of course not! You can thank our carbon markets for that!
Thank our mileage mandates and our fuel taxes and our bureaucracy!
Because CO2 goes up so fast, it’s only fair that Big Govt grow even faster.
Folks you have NO IDEA the extent to which you are being manipulated and indoctrinated.
For example:
http://www.garrisoninstitute.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=244&Itemid=1071
Get that? They are basically trying to figure out how to manipulate the masses on the issue of climate change. This is NOT ABOUT SCIENCE, people, this is about using climate change to push a political agenda. Now, want a REAL eye opener? Look at the participant biographies of those attending the March 2010 symposium.
http://www.garrisoninstitute.org/index.php?option=com_docman&task=doc_view&gid=148&Itemid=1324
Any of those names look familiar to you? Several of them should.
And there’s even someone from the “International Energy Agency” there, Alan Belensz:
Even Andy Revkin is there.
Look, folks, this is NOT some “foil hat” paranoid rant. These people ARE conspiring on how to manipulate the masses on this issue. WAKE UP! This is how they “win the debate”. They don’t have to convince you, they convince the upcoming generations.
Give me a the eco-con special with extra funding and I’d like a side order of irreversible doom please.
Better never for this mendacity.
Yup-Al Gore gave us 10 years and we have 4 years and a few days left before we burn up according to him. I better get packing-oh I am already.
This sort of line reminds me of a bad sales pitch, “You must act now … this offer won’t last …”
Maybe someone could remember, but didn’t we already past the point of no return according to past predictions?
“……new high due to the rebound of the world’s economies following the 2008 financial crisis.”
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Excuse me? What “rebound” are they talking about? Entire nations are about to go bankrupt. Millions are out of work and quit looking just in the USA. Energy policy related to fossil fuel is being written to ensure the de-industrialization of the planet. And all the while, taxpayers are being scammed by govt’s pushing expensive light bulbs, intermittent and unreliable energy technologies, and electric golf carts at enormous cost. What is wrong with these morons?
Seems like with the Durban meeting coming up, we’re being subjected in the media to more dire predictions disconnected from reality.
It appears global warming has already reversed its irreversiblity as predicted in the late 1980s and early 1990s. Indeed, none of the dire predictions of out-of-control warming have come to pass.
Here’s another one:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/dec/04/whales-new-species-britain?fb=optOut
Now follow the money. Look at that list of attendees of people who would want to “apply” the “emerging understanding of human behavior and human nature generated by behavioral and social sciences, integrating them with insights from evolutionary theory and psychology” to “climate change policy and related ecological issues”.
Cha Ching! (sound of cash drawer opening)
Cha Ching!
Cha Ching!
That is only the FIRST THREE ATTENDEES. And I am somewhat gobsmacked by the third one. “alternative measures of economic progress” indeed! Apparently they can’t use conventional methods of measuring economic progress such as “how much money do we take in, how much do we spend, how much do we have left” because that would highlight the fleecing the people are being subjected to so apparently “alternative” ways of measuring economic progress must be developed so the people look forward to the trip to the cleaners.
This is absolutely sick, people.
Oh, and you will notice that David Fenton of Fenton Communications is there, too.
“May be irreversible by 2017.” Maybe by 2016. Maybe by 2071. Maybe yer uncle is really yer aunt, but I wouldn’t like to see my government base its policies on that possibility.
Henny Youngman said it best: “My doctor told me I had 6 months to live, I told him I was broke and couldn’t pay his bill… so he gave me another 6 months.”
Crosspatch:
Don’t get too carried away with the idea that the general public can be “manipulated and indoctrinated” that easily. (If so, why are the polls not showing it?)
All the influence in the world isn’t going to work unless the planet actually warms up.
Even Goebbels’ vaunted propaganda machine wasn’t able to convince people that the Nazis and the military were able to defend the country when the bombs were falling. (Bill Shirer has some interesting observations on this in his Berlin Diary.)
It’s also worth considering that these people may be working to maintain their own self-deception as much as anything else.
And the point of my bringing that entire “Climate, Mind and Behavior Program” into this thread is to place this particular news story about the “irreversible” melting of the ice into that context. It is designed to be manipulative by making people afraid so they will buy in to the deal.
They study human behavior and psychology. Fenton Communications, the primary PR agent for “climate change” is there. Fenton helps produce all sorts of stuff designed to shovel more money to the whole “green business” thing. This article for example:
http://www.greenbiz.com/blog/2011/03/22/mapping-out-complexities-corporate-sustainabilty
The “International Energy Agency” even picked a name to make it sound like some sort of official UN agency. It is DESIGNED to be confusing to people.
“Without further action by 2017, the energy-related infrastructure then in place would generate all the CO2 emissions allowed” to keep the temperature rise at 2 degrees or lower, the report said
Translation
“What we really mean is that with there being no evidence after all this time for alarm regarding the effects from CO2 future emissions. The scare, we are trying to keep alive (scientifically dead already), now looks likely ending very soon. Therefore please give all your cash so we can benefit before politicians become aware of this and prevents us from greed before it’s too late”
…another 6 years of temperatures falling
Global Warming Irreversible in 2009: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=99888903
Global Warming Irreversible by 2012: http://www.greenenergytimes.org/2011/11/20/iea-global-warming-irreversible-by-2012/
etc
The Onion has a remarkably similar article, but says we have to curtail GHG emissions by 2006…
http://www.theonion.com/articles/report-global-warming-may-be-irreversible-by-2006,26808/
May be irreversible by 2017.
Then again, it may not. But it will be irreversible in 5, 10, 15 or 20 years after that. It doesn’t matter, whenever we pass on of these deadlines without the sky caving in on us, the threat will still be just over the horizon.
Do I remember a televangelist who was going to be called home by God if he didn’t raise enough money by a certain time? Sound familiar? How did that work out?
crosspatch:
I wouldn’t exaggerate the extent to which these people can influence public opinion thru “behavioral science”.
It won’t work if the planet doesn’t actually start warming. (Disinformation works when people can’t test it against their own experience. Otherwise, it breaks down, no matter how sophisticated the spiel – or the “behavioral techniques”.)
This kind of thing is almost always overrated (an interesting fact in itself). This includes Goebbels’ vaunted propaganda machine, which wasn’t able to convince people on the street that they would be protected by the Nazis and the German army as soon as the bombs started falling. (Bill Shirer has some interesting observations on this in his Berlin Diary.)
I suspect that the main reason these people are promoting such stuff is that they are desperately trying to maintain their own self-deception. It’s one more demonstration of how pathetic they really are.
PS: Sorry for the second posting. My browser confused me – I thought the comment had been lost.
Poll all citizens under the age of 20 and get back to me. They are doing it through the education system. You will not find a single book in a school library that challenges the notion of AGW. They all present it is established fact. Same with their “science” curriculum. Most of those people are not yet included in opinion polls. Those polls will be changing as we continue, year after year, to pump kids out of schools who believe it is established fact and only crazy toothless Republican hillbillies would believe it isn’t.
Typo in introduction: “que” should be “queue”.
[Dang, and I had just fixed it when you posted. -w.]
So only 6 more years and we won’t have to listen to all the BS being spread around?
Somehow I doubt it.