♫ You've got…that vexatious feeling ♫

Well I must say that I have been fairly “vexed” by the imposition of an emissions trading scheme and taxations based on the data in question. Given this very significant cost I think it fair to “bother” them with this…don’t you?

seeing as we’re having a laugh….
29 Nov: UK Telegraph: Durban Climate Change Conference 2011 opens in disarray
The United Nations climate change summit opened in disarray after violent storms, the late arrival of the host president and a major rift emerging between some of the world’s biggest polluters.
By Aislinn Laing, Durban and Louise Gray, Environment Correspondent
Artur Runge-Metzger, the EU’s negotiator at the summit, said both developing and developed countries had to make firm commitments to emissions caps this year or risk the public “losing confidence in this travelling circus”…
Canada has already said it will not commit to a second term and yesterday it emerged that it could withdraw before the original deal expires. The country’s national broadcaster said it would be announced next month that Canada will withdraw from the protocol – a move its Green Party warned would make it a “global pariah” at Durban.
Within the European Union grouping, which speaks at the summit with one voice, cracks were already beginning to emerge after the publication of a report suggesting the UK was backing a controversial plan by Canada to extract oil from swampland – something the EU has made clear it is against because of the levels of greenhouse gas emissions.
Those watching the talks begin said it was an inauspicious start…
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/8921491/Durban-Climate-Change-Conference-2011-opens-in-disarray.html

pat;
The country’s national broadcaster said it would be announced next month that Canada will withdraw from the protocol – a move its Green Party warned would make it a “global pariah” at Durban.>>>
Nice catch. The Globe and Mail had to work really hard to find a negative comment by someone so of course they approached the Green Party which really represents the opposition in Canada with a total of…uhm….one…members of parliament. Well, at least with only one member they don’t wind up contradicting themselves like the other parties do so often. Well, at least not usually. OK, so not more than twice in a day.
Frankly, as a Canadian, I’m good with being a “global pariah” at Durban. Perhaps we could hand out leadlets saying we’re putting up a new and improved statue of liberty for ourselves, and we’ve come up with a neat new slogan:
Bring us your tired, your poor, your hungry, and your factories, and your head offices, and your your mining equipment (lots of mining equipment!!) and your refineries and your shipping companies and your ports and…low taxes, stable economy, stable banking system, good neighbourhood (we don’t even bother to lock up at the border when we got to bed at night) and don’t worry about those rumours about 40 below in the winter, we hear there’s a warming trend on the way….

I posted this in tips but it goes well with pats posts so going to hit it again here…
“Industrialized nations emit far less carbon dioxide than the Third World, according to latest evidence from Japan’s Aerospace Exploration Agency (JAXA).”
“Indeed, the map at which JAXA spokesman Sasano was pointing been expected by most experts to show that western nations are to blame for substantial increases in atmospheric levels of carbon dioxide, causing global warming. But to an officious looking TV interviewer Sasano turned greenhouse gas theory on it’s head.”
“Sasano proceeded to explain the color-coding system of the iconic maps showing where regions were either absorbing or emitting the trace atmospheric gas. Regions were alternately colored red (for high CO2 emission), white (low or neutral CO2 emissions) and green (no emissions: CO2 absorbers).
“Bizarrely, the IBUKU maps prove exactly the opposite of all conventional expectations revealing that the least industrialized regions are the biggest emitters of greenhouse gases on the planet.
Yes, you read that correctly: the U.S. and western European nations are areas where CO2 levels are lowest. This new evidence defies the consensus view promoted by mainstream newspapers, such as the New York Times.”
http://co2insanity.com/2011/11/15/new-satellite-data-contradicts-carbon-dioxide-climate-theory/
Not a good start for the doomday cultists “choosing of the virgins to sacrifice to appease the gods” ritual.

“Vexatious” can be a legal term as used in English courts and is commonly used here. The BBC uses it to stifle debate when a complainant is dissatisfied with a response and complains again. There’s a surprise for you.

Seems like he learned a new word. Like a kid with a new toy!

Bio-fueled starvation, greenish fuel-poverty, and bird-slicers
go far, far beyond mere ‘vexatious’.
We mustn’t ever forget that the Warmistas’ faux morality,
their self-anointed status as Planetary Saviors,
their shrill moralistic pseudo-piety
comprise the cover for utterly reckless statist lunacies
wallowing in immorality.
Those who resist their collectivist impositions
hope to do far more than merely ‘vex’ them.
If we don’t defeat their bad ideas,
those very ideas will permanently impoverish the world.

The Ford Prefect is in fact Mike Tuppen (3021.txt) who has raised his own FOI request against the UEA

‘Vexatious’ has a legal connotation in this context. For example, an action can be dismissed, and sanctions applied on the litigant for being ‘vexatious’. As per Wikipedia:
“Vexatious litigation is legal action which is brought, regardless of its merits, solely to harass or subdue an adversary. It may take the form of a primary frivolous lawsuit or may be the repetitive, burdensome, and unwarranted filing of meritless motions in a matter which is otherwise a meritorious cause of action. Filing vexatious litigation is considered an abuse of the judicial process and may result in sanctions against the offender.”
Clearly Phil Jones and UEA are viewing FOI requests, even from other researchers, in this light, and are justifying their non-co-operation in that light. If brought to some tribunal about this they will surely use that excuse that they considered FOI requests to be vexatious, and such language would be readily understood by lawyers.

I believe one of these ill-behaved playpen mates said something about the lack of warming also being vexatious a while back. Or something to that affect.

Temp says
Not a good start for the doomday cultists “choosing of the virgins to sacrifice to appease the gods” ritual.
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So temp, after looking at the primary source, and all 4 maps representing all of the seasons, do you still believe every thing John O’sullivan says.
http://www.jaxa.jp/press/2011/10/20111028_ibuki_e.html

“Similarly the refusal to provide data to allow fellow scientists access to original data to reproduce published findings strikes at the very heart of scientific enquiry.
Papers produced without such supporting data become hearsay
and must be withdrawn.”
Most people who believe in the integrity of science would fully agree with these sentiments. But people who are involved in fraud and who actively support the corruption of science would doubtless find this to be extremely vexatious….
Chris

Hah, ““losing confidence in this travelling circus” must lead to a new Josh cartoon i hope 🙂

I think we may need to be careful here. Dr Jones has behaved abominably by what seems, to all of us, fair standards of behaviour and of science.
However, by his own standards, and by the standards of many around him, he has worked tirelessly, to the best of his ability, in the service of the planet – and we are stopping him from doing the work needed so he is frantic. He lost weight, could not sleep, etc.
He has suffered. He has had death threats. OK, I know some of us have had them too, but he probably doesn’t know that and we probably can’t get this message through to him. So we need to put the message out, that we not only wish him no personal harm (despite the harm he’s effectively done to others, Science, and the planet) and we certainly do not condone the use of death threats.
So I say, take it very easy with anything that could be seen as taunting.

@AussieAlf – The English language is indeed vexatious. 😉 As I learn conversational spanish, I am struck by the fact that we have a hundred ways to say something, that many other languages have but one. It makes our spelling bees more interesting as well.

Would that include emailing someone and saying they wish to beat someone up? Just checking on the goose gander thing.

Robw says:
November 28, 2011 at 8:55 pm
“What really bothers me is the damage to science these people have done.”
Yes, that is a tragedy. Most US high schoolers of the last decade know that their science teachers and others lied to them or, worse, uncritically passed on the lies of others.

Considering the extensive use of the word, almost makes me wonder if Mr. Jones did some work for the Hawaiian Department of Health and the Hawaiian State Legislature.
(I know, off-topic…)
=8-)

Lucy, I applaud your sentiment, but Phil Jones, Michael Mann and company have helped perpetrate a fraud on mankind. A fraud that is costing hundreds of billions of dollars and causing suffering, hardship, and most probably death! In my opinion, Phil Jones has not yet been given what he deserves for his part in this scam.

@Pamela Gray
November 29, 2011 at 6:20 am
“Would that include emailing someone and saying they wish to beat someone up? Just checking on the goose gander thing”
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Santer: “Pamela, you and me in the alley”
;o)

There is an unjustifiable proprietary attitude displayed by the “team” towards climate science and the data. If it was a one man hysteria it would be comprehensible, but when a whole “community” displays the same trait, then obviously something else is afoot. This manic resistance to any request for data release goes beyond the reasonable. As for funding or status being sufficient motive for so many educated people to act this way, sorry, but I am not buying it. There must be an alternative explanation that makes more sense.

Can anyone point to an email which actually shows collusion to tamper with data. This shold not include the DECLINE which is covered in many published papers and so is not HIDDEN! I have searched for word like untruth, lie, invalid, fudge, bodge, etc, etc., But they all refer to others papers who do not support the AGW theory.
Can anyone also show me where these $billions are going – no one is bragging about new motors, vast estates etc in these emails. Where has it all gone?

Looks like you caught the Media in an outright LIE. Someone doctored that Photo or used another one
This is the original screen capture by Tallbloke: http://chiefio.wordpress.com/2011/10/31/japanese-satellites-say-3rd-world-owes-co2-reparations-to-the-west/
[Moderator note] Nope, not me. – tallmod
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davidmhoffer says:
November 28, 2011 at 10:34 pm
temp;
I followed that link and read the article in its entirety. But then I followed the link to the original article as published in Japan:
http://www3.nhk.or.jp/daily/english/30_13.html
The map they have indeed shows some surprised, but it isn’t anything like what the article you linked to suggested. Yes, there’s a patch of the United States that is light green (absorbs slightly more CO2 than it emmits) but 3/4 of the US and all of Canada are pink (emmit more than they absorb) and Europe is mostly bright red (emmit lots more than they absorb). So I’m confused here because the article you link to and the actual map seem to show two opposite conclusions.
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