World Bank, Global Warming, Journals, and CRU

Gail Combs writes in comments:

Oh, BOY ~ I think I may have struck GOLD!

Do not forget Friday Mukamperezida: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/09/25/they-had-to-burn-the-village-to-save-it-from-global-warming/

At http://foia2011.org I searched for worldbank.org and found 32 e-mails going back as far as 1998. I have only looked at three so far. Looks like the good old World Bank may be something of a puppet master.

http://foia2011.org/index.php?id=4628

Summary for Policymakers to: Rwatson

Dear Bob, [Robert Watson of World Bank]

Thanks for giving us the opportunity to react to your thinking. It forces us to think more clearly about the main messages. I must admit that I am somewhat confused about the 26 page summary, since this comes very close to (although it is different from) the full-scale document the various teams are currently writing. My view would be that those teams take their own text as the starting point and try to improve/shorten it on the basis of your text. Here, I only respond to your main messages in italics and mainly focus on WG3 issues…..

Question 2:

I would not include a WG3 paragraph, like “The Kyoto Protocol has led to thecreation of new market mechanisms”……

Long but worth reading. Seems Robert Watson of the World Bank was TELLING good old Rajendra Pachauri and the crowd what to put into the Summary for Policymakers

I wonder what the crowd at Occupy Wall Street would think of this e-mail?

http://foia2011.org/index.php?id=4953

is about drumming up CAGW projects for the “USAID on the Supplemental Grant Program” and R. Watson at the World Bank is copied.

Here is another goodie where Kenneth M. Chomitz of the World Bank is interfering with how a peer reviewed journal is run.

Editorial for Climate Policy, Issue 2.

…. Dear Michael,

I really like the solution of presenting view and counterview articles. I retain some reservations about your proposed editorial. It seems to me that you have the difficult problem of wearing two hats: one as the advocate of particular policies and viewpoints, and the other as an editor of a journal which aspires to be a neutral forum for policy discussion. I appreciate and sympathize with the depth and grounding of your personal views. However, as editor, it seems to me, you have to bend over backwards to be neutral. The editorial uses charged words like ‘demonize’ and could easily spark the war of words you wish to avoid. A strongly worded editorial risks associating the journal with a particular viewpoint, and hence reducing the journal’s value and reputation as a neutral forum….

Kenneth M. Chomitz

Development Research Group

World Bank

…..

from: Hadi Dowlatabadi

subject: Re: [New] Editorial for Climate Policy, Issue 2.

Dear Ken,

I agree with your perspective, but why not set a realistic target? The editorial columns at Science, Nature and New Scientist have rarely hidden their subjective perspectives. I think there are shades to this, and Michael can be a shade grayer, but the passion is also important.

The dialogue approach allows him to be editor, hold strong opinions, but still be viewed as someone who is willing to listen. This is how Steve Schneider has conducted his reign at Climatic Change and I believe despite his well known personal perspectives he has been able to draw on many in the community to contribute to the dialogue that defines the differences in perspectives permeating this subject.

Hadi

http://foia2011.org/index.php?id=4953

So it seems the Professional journals are also getting direction from the World Bank.

Climategate the present that just gives and gives. I can not wait to get back to the other 29 e-mails.

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Kitefreak
November 25, 2011 11:37 am

Many congratulations to Gail Combs for bringing these important connections to the minds of so many critical thinkers who read this blog. It is great to see her get credit for her insights and extensive knowledge of the FACTS.
I don’t think there is “confirmation bias” on her part – not at all. What is that – a polite way of calling someone a “conspiracy theorist” without actually using that pejorative and offensive term?
When you are more fully aquainted with the facts (as Gail undoubtedly is) and they fit together like a jigsaw then you know you’re looking at the real picture because the bits wouldn’t fit together so perfectly otherwise.
The climate “science” part of the jigsaw is only one part of the picture revealed when the whole jigsaw is put together.

Gail Combs
November 25, 2011 12:13 pm

G. Karst says:
November 25, 2011 at 6:53 am
Why Eucalyptus? Surely not because of 20′ annual growth. Hell, our own cottonwoods come close enough to that. They work for paper – don’t they? There must be some overriding advantage to selecting an alien invasive species and the significant environmental risk to their introduction. GK
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Eucalyptus produces an oil that “mists” the ground and keeps other seeds from sprouting. The oil also makes it so nasty tasting even a goat will not eat it. Therefore I think it is equivalent to “salting the earth” If people can OWN land and grow food that they can trade for what they need, barter if need be and they are free. Destruction/control of the food supply has been used in war for centuries. It was what Stalin did in 1932 – 33 to break the Ukrainians. It was what the USA did to break the American Indians ~ Literally wiped out the buffalo that was their food supply.
Heck the original 2009 food safety bill in the USA had a clause that would allow the FDA regulatory power over home gardens. It will only take ONE sentence added to another bill to slip that provision back into the law. http://www.examiner.com/scotus-in-washington-dc/trojan-horse-law-the-food-safety-modernization-act-of-2009
What many do not know is that it is also what was done to the USA during after WWII to bring us to heel by destroying our farming and towns and our culture. SEE: http://www.opednews.com/articles/History-HACCP-and-the-Foo-by-Nicole-Johnson-090906-229.html
This is whole mess is not something that sprung up all of a sudden. The fight for freedom has been ongoing because there has always been a group who want power and control. Often they are the same families over decades and even centuries. These people have found it is far far safer and more lucrative to sit back and FUND the princes and presidents and wars (often both sides) that to be the leaders on the firing line.
“…the international bankers was the PRIME reason for the Revolutionary War.” ~
Benjamin Franklin in his Autobiography
Fiat Money History in the US: http://kwaves.com/fiat.htm
UK & USA Central Banks: http://www.eidolonspeak.com/?p=246
An interesting side note: International Economic Club of China (Note Al Gore, Maurice Strong etc as speakers) http://www.chinaecoclub.org/home.asp
More on what Franklin had to say about bankers:

History of Money
…During a visit to Britain in 1763, The Bank of England asked Benjamin Franklin how he would account for the new found prosperity in the colonies. Franklin replied.
“That is simple. In the colonies we issue our own money. It is called Colonial Script. We issue it in proper proportion to the demands of trade and industry to make the products pass easily from the producers to the consumers.
In this manner, creating for ourselves our own paper money, we control its purchasing power, and we have no interest to pay to no one.”

In Response the world’s most powerful independent bank used its influence on the British parliament to press for the passing of the Currency Act of 1764.
This act made it illegal for the colonies to print their own money, and forced them to pay all future taxes to Britain in silver or gold.
Here is what Franklin said after that.
“In one year, the conditions were so reversed that the era of prosperity ended, and a depression set in, to such an extent that the streets of the Colonies were filled with unemployed.”
Benjamin Franklin
“The colonies would gladly have borne the little tax on tea and other matters had it not been that England took away from the colonies their money, which created unemployment and dissatisfaction. The inability of the colonists to get power to issue their own money permanently out of the hands of George III and the international bankers was the PRIME reason for the Revolutionary War.”
Benjamin Franklin’s autobiography
http://www.xat.org/xat/moneyhistory.html

The bankers have been taking back control ever since.

Gail Combs
November 25, 2011 12:31 pm

Kitefreak says:
November 25, 2011 at 11:37 am
Many congratulations to Gail Combs for bringing these important connections to the minds of so many critical thinkers who read this blog. It is great to see her get credit for her insights and extensive knowledge of the FACTS.
I don’t think there is “confirmation bias” on her part…..
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Thank you.
It just seems that every time I looked into a problem, CAGW, Animal ID, Food crisis, Foreclosure crisis, US loss of Manufacturing/economic crisis… there is a banker/financier on the other end of the string manipulating the circumstances to his advantage or more often CREATING the problem.
What struck me is how long term the plans were. These guys do not think in terms of quarters or five year plans but in terms of DECADES long plans or more and that frightens the heck out of me.

Al Gored
November 25, 2011 1:17 pm

Looky here. The nice people at the World Bank are trying to help the little people “visualize” what they need to be saved from. And that nice man at the BBC is helping too!
16:39 UK time, Wednesday, 23 November 2011
@BBCRBlack via Twitter
Visualising climate change with the World Bank’s new online tool http://t.co/xeZtuqqZ
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/correspondents/richardblack/

Kitefreak
November 25, 2011 1:20 pm

“What struck me is how long term the plans were. These guys do not think in terms of quarters or five year plans but in terms of DECADES long plans or more and that frightens the heck out of me.”
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It needs to be stopped. Think of the children.
I mean, I’ll probably be dead when these evil conspirators may or may not have their evil way, given their very long term planning approach to world domination. But my children will inherit their hellish future, if the control is not taken away from them.
First they came for the communists,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a Jew.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.
pastor Martin Niemöller (1892–1984).

November 25, 2011 1:21 pm

Thank you Gail. This caused me to revisit a summary I found a long time ago.
http://heartland.org/press-releases/2009/03/08/climate-alarm-what-we-are-against-and-what-do

November 25, 2011 2:00 pm

When I archived this two years ago the group http://www.iigcc.org/ claimed they represented 4 trillion pounds to invest in climate change.
Today their website says: “currently over 70 members, including some of the largest pension funds and asset managers in Europe, representing around €6trillion.”

November 25, 2011 2:10 pm

also archived:
…..four groups representing more than 190 investors with more than US $13 trillion of assets – Investor Network on Climate Risk (INCR), Institutional Investors Group on Climate Change (IIGCC), Investor Group on Climate Change (IGCC) and the United Nations Environment Programme Finance Initiative (UNEP FI). http://www.unepfi.org/signatories/index.html
At Durban, according to the above link, they intend to promote three ideas:
• Designing a Green Climate Fund which is effective in unlocking private investment for low-carbon and climate-resilient growth in developing countries
• Mobilising the risk management skills of the insurance industry to address loss and damage from the impacts of climate change
• Building an effective global funding mechanism for forest-based climate change mitigation

November 25, 2011 2:53 pm

Aside from investment banks here is a partial list of multinationals that support/promote AGW
Apple
BP America
Chrysler
Coca-Cola
Dell
E-Bay
Ford Motor Company
Gap Inc.
General Electric
General Motors
Google
Hewlett Packard
Nike
PepsiCo
“Why?” You ask.
This letter helps explain and should be a centerpost of any political movement to slow the AGW movement. http://myslu.stlawu.edu/~shorwitz/open_letter.htm

November 25, 2011 2:58 pm

For example, on Wed, Nov 18, 2009, Coke Submit wrote in response to my email criticizing their motives:
:
Thank you for your recent email message,
At The Coca-Cola Company, we recognize that the implications of climate change are profound and wide-ranging, with expected impacts on biodiversity, water resources, public health, business and agriculture. We believe business can play a powerful role in helping drive climate solutions through innovation and competition, as well as by taking measures to reduce our own carbon footprint.
We are committed to working alongside government and civil society to address the root causes of climate change, and one way we have demonstrated that commitment is through our endorsement of the Copenhagen Communiqué.
We are among more than 500 companies in more than 60 countries that have endorsed the Copenhagen Communiqué, which calls on world leaders to agree to “an ambitious, robust and equitable global deal on climate change that responds credibly to the scale and urgency of the crisis facing the world today.” The signatories to the Communiqué agree that business will suffer if credible solutions are not found.
For our part, the Coca-Cola system continually works to reduce our carbon footprint by implementing new technologies and conservation measures for our refrigeration equipment, our packaging, our fleet and our bottling operations. For more information on these efforts, please visit the Environment section of our corporate web site.
If you have additional questions or comments to share, please feel free to contact us again.
Sheila
Industry and Consumer Affairs
The Coca-Cola Company

DP111
November 25, 2011 3:11 pm

On a slightly tangential issue, I found it surprising that the Royal Society gave the CRU a clean bill of health after ClimategateI.
One expects hanky-panky from governments, UN, World Bank, IMF and other such highly political bodies, and financial companies, but why was it that a premier scientific institution- the Royal Society, did not have any doubts about the quality of the research, or the people conducting it.
I just wonder if there is any reference to the Royal Society in these emails?

southerncross
November 25, 2011 3:49 pm

file=0744
“Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 16:17:21 +000 ???
To: Mike Hulme
From: Nicola Sheard
Subject: Fwd: Climate Change Adaptation Fund
From: “michael see”
To:
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Subject: Climate Change Adaptation Fund
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 18:05:05 -0000
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200
27 November 2000
Dear All
Proposal for a Climate Change Adaptation Fund to assist countries vulnerable to effects
of climate change/global warming – in the presence or absence of Kyoto Protocol
ratification
/ Communication 2
Copies: Dr Klaus Tofper, Mrs Jacqueline Aloisi de Larderel (UNEP); Michael Z. Cutajar
(UNFCCC)
Dear All,
I have met Henderson Investors this afternoon to discuss the proposal.
Summary of the meeting with Henderson –
1) Henderson expressed an interest in the proposal
2) It is thought that governments would be the prime donors or investors in the fund,
rest would be
large corporates
3) Assuming a 70/30 or 60/40 humanitarian aid to investment-driven portfolio, the
investment
proportion could focus on actual projects or equity investments in quoted companies
4) The next step would be for CARE Denmark to put forward a proposal to Henderson on how
CARE and Henderson could work together – and other parties – this could culminate in
an
application to UNFCCC Bonn for observer status certification of CARE to participate
in the
negotiating sessions of UNFCCC – i.e. adaptation fund proposition.
_________________
My second report is as follows:
Proposed format of application by CARE International (Denmark) to UNFCCC –
Application for observer status accreditation as a Non-Governmental Organisation in
UNFCCC negotiating sessions (a standard form may have to be completed)
CDM refers to Clean Development Mechanism (art. 12), ET Emissions Trading (art. 17), JI
Joint Implementation (art. 6)
CARE operates in 64 developing and underdeveloped countries – its OECD member countries
are
Australia, Austria, Canada, Denmark, France, Germany, Japan, Norway, UK and USA. The
Secretariat is based in Brussels.
– strategic locations
22 Least Developed Countries – Asia, Middle East, C&E Europe, South America, Haiti
– 44 projects in Africa; 25 projects in Asia; 19 projects Middle East, C&E Europe, 1999
– very strong international reputation and working relationship with developing country
governments
– capable of influencing both “North” and “South” governments on the concept of a
global climate
change adaptation fund – irrespective of Kyoto Protocol – i.e. if mandatory
contributions from
KP’s flexible mechanisms not forthcoming, voluntary donations could finance fund –
many blue
chip companies could contribute to market their global citizen image
– CARE Denmark is to employ two personnel in December – part of their remit is to look
at the
impact of climate change in developing countries
– CARE International’s global presence enables supply of real-time information on the
impacts of
climate change in LDCs and developing countries
(a) to construct a vulnerability index – humanitarian and
social-economic-linked – which
can be combined with weather effects data from the Tyndall Centre
(b) act as processing centre for the deployment of humanitarian aid once
a major
climatic disaster is reported – the needs basis may have to be
jointly approved
by the UN/UNFCCC/UNEP. ”
A bankers wet dream.

Jessie
November 26, 2011 3:47 am
Gail Combs
November 26, 2011 8:14 am

kate65 says:
November 25, 2011 at 2:53 pm
This letter helps explain and should be a centerpost of any political movement to slow the AGW movement. http://myslu.stlawu.edu/~shorwitz/open_letter.htm
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Thanks for the link. As I said my anger toward the bankers is not some idiotic “Conspiracy Theroy” but a matter of following the threads.
Steven Horwitz got part of it but not all of it.
During the Clinton Admin. five banking laws were passed that tore down the protections set up after the Great Depression to prevent a second depression. These laws set-up the mess that link talks about.
However the real killer, the key to the mess that Steven Horwitz missed, Matt Taibbi picked up on. That is the CDSs that were left unregulated that allowed banks to “Insure” dicey mortgages for very little money down with AIG. The US government bailed out AIG so they could pay their “Gambling debt” when they started to go belly up after too many foreclosures because they did not charge enough $$$ to cover their side of the Credit Default Swap (CDS) gamble.
On top of that Obama got into the act with his phony “Loan Modification Program” People who were NOT in foreclosure but were having to struggle to pay their mortgages were enticed into the program. The government b-rat set up a modification plan with lower payments. After the bank lost the paper work several times thereby stalling for about a year, the bank would decide if there was one or more CDSs on the mortgage. If there was the bank sent the “mark” a letter saying they did not “qualify” for the program and now the mark owed all the amounts not paid, interest, penalties AND LAWYERS FEES, if the amount due was not paid within thirty days they would foreclose.
The Amount due was usually over $10,000. If the “mark” managed to beg, borrow or steal enough to cover the amount, the bank started the second dance. The bank would state they could not give the exact amount owed because they did not have a firm figure for the “Lawyer Fees” As the time closes in on the thirty day foreclosure date, the mark then has to hire a lawyer to get the [self-snip] bank to come up with the amount owed.
To add insult to injury all the money “loaned” by these banks was created on the spot out of “Pixie Dust” by an accounting entry!!! http://www.marketskeptics.com/2009/03/us-banks-operate-without-reserve.html
Meanwhile the Media [owned by JP Morgan] is lamenting that not enough people are “taking advantage” of the Loan modification program…. GRRRrrrr
References:
Quick index of banking laws: http://www.fdic.gov/regulations/laws/important/index.html
Matt T. Articles:
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/3/25/aig_and_the_big_takeover_matt
http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/03/22-6
Nitty gritty:
http://www.realtytrac.com/content/news-and-opinion/how-the-aig-bailout-could-be-driving-more-foreclosures-4861
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/meet-foreclosure-experts-hair-stylists-walmart-floor-workers-and-assembly-lines-workers-all-
J P Morgan and the Media: http://www.newsandtech.com/dougs_page/article_f3a45be0-4717-11df-aace-001cc4c03286.html

Gail Combs
November 26, 2011 9:20 am

John I am cross posting this to the World Bank thread so it does not get lost. Given the burning death of Friday M. It is especially telling.
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john says: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/11/26/newsbytes-durban-the-new-wait-and-see-diplomacy/#comment-809209
E-mail 0225
date: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:57:52 +0800
from: “Helen”
subject: Re: Carbon trading in the Middle East
to:
[cid:REDACTED]
Dear Colleague,
If you’ve been buying or selling carbon credits in the last few years, you would know that about 80% of carbon credits today are coming from projects in only two countries – China and India.
Though these two giants still present attractive investment opportunities for you, having your carbon offsets sourced from only two countries can be problematic. Issues like China’s unofficial price floor, or difficulties managing Indian CDM projects, are now driving many project developers and credit buyers to seek other host countries for their carbon offsets.
Here are 3 reasons why you should be looking at the Middle East & North Africa (MENA) region as your next big source of carbon credits:
1) The countries in the region house sizeable energy-intensive and carbon-intensive industries such as energy and metals.
2) Some of the world’s wealthiest investors are based in the Middle East. They can help finance your climate change mitigation projects.
3) Middle Eastern and North African governments, investors and local industry leaders are now more open and interested in the benefits of carbon offset projects and sustainable investments.
As the carbon market explodes in the next few years to become the world’s biggest market overall, wouldn’t you want to be the first to get into this region, rich in opportunities but so difficult to get into?
Meet the people who will determine how carbon finance takes shape in the Middle East! Catch opening remarks from the UNFCCC and keynote addresses by Karan Capoor of the World Bank Carbon Finance Unit, Sam Nader, Director of Masdar Carbon (Abu Dhabi Future Energy Company), Dr. Armin Sandhoevel, Chairman of the UNEP FI Climate Change Working Group, and Dr. Tilak Doshi, Executive Director for Energy of the Dubai Multi Commodities Centre.
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Article by Garcon Thomas Bernavil is the same as the email: http://www.free-press-release.com/news/200808/1217918750.html
He shows up again here: http://www.ifcci.com/docs/newsletters/business_newsletters/2009/FEB%202009/Newsletter_February%209th_2008.html
Japan for sustainability: http://www.japanfs.org/en_/outside/event.html
It starts getting really fun here:
Coal-To-Liquids Project Management Event Description
Coal EventsMine: http://coal.infomine.com/events/showeventcontent.asp?id=11201
Geotechnical Assessment – For Open Pit Mines in Tropical Countries: http://coal.infomine.com/events/showeventcontent.asp?id=11203
Asia Pacific Coal Bed Methane (CBM) Forum 2009
The China government is pushing for commercialization of its abundant coalbed methane (CBM) reserves as a clean energy source to drive its rapid economic growth…. http://www.free-press-release.com/news-asia-pacific-coal-bed-methane-cbm-forum-2009-1254212482.html
Asia Pacific Natural Gas Vehicles Association
SUMMARY ON THE 2ND ANNUAL CNG-NGV ASIA PACIFIC FORUM & 1ST GREEN HIGHWAYS ’09 TEAM…
http://www.angva.org/main.asp?pageid=48&newsid=66&Access=
Bernavil works for AllEvents Group from Milano Italy. It is a group who organizes international forms mainly dealing with the Far East and Africa.

Michael
November 26, 2011 11:23 am

When you look at who runs the World Wildlife Fund you see big corporations and banks (GE, Goldman Sachs, Cargill, etc., etc.) and when you look at some of the things the WWF does – i.e. collaborating with Monsanto to greenwash the company – you’re left with one conclusion: the WWF is a public relations firm created by and for rich corporations. They hide behind the WWF to make themselves look politically correct and very green and they’ve been pushing the climate change scare for years.
Is there a connection between the corporate greens at WWF and the World Bank? If someone can connect the dots for me I’d appreciate it, I lack the time to do the research.
I don’t follow the climate circus on a daily basis like WUWT readers so sometimes what I read here goes over my head. Is there a good ‘climate change fraud for dummies’ article that I can print and read in the bus? I know there are a couple of books but I’d prefer a shorter version.

Myrrh
November 26, 2011 6:39 pm

Michael says:
November 26, 2011 at 11:23 am
When you look at who runs the World Wildlife Fund you see big corporations and banks (GE, Goldman Sachs, Cargill, etc., etc.) and when you look at some of the things the WWF does – i.e. collaborating with Monsanto to greenwash the company – you’re left with one conclusion: the WWF is a public relations firm created by and for rich corporations. They hide behind the WWF to make themselves look politically correct and very green and they’ve been pushing the climate change scare for years.
http://www.ecowho.com/foia.php?file=0876250531.txt&search=Bank
1997 WWF email very annoyed at Japan re Kyoto which was sent to Hulme but by whom blocked out, in it WWF getting their troops to get “progessive businesses” to join in condemnation:

“Tanabe is moving to Europe for talks in the next few days. It is vital that
European governments reject the proposal in no uncertain terms and urge
Japan to at least support the EU standpoint. (Note: the WWF policies and
measures study for Japan identifies how to cut CO2 emissions 8.8% below
1990 levels by 2005 and 14.8% by 2010 – very similar to the EU position).
It would also be very useful if progressive business groups would express
their horror at the new economic opportunities which will be foregone if
Kyoto is a flop.
Best wishes, Andrew
I’ll have a look for what EU governments said about it, vital as it was for them to reject the proposals..
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Gail – World Bank in 1998 hosted a meeting of the lead authors: http://www.ecowho.com/foia.php?file=0893188400.txt&search=Bank

Johnnythelowery
November 26, 2011 8:52 pm

This whole thing is incredible. I loved the Solar threads here with Leif. Now i’ve got a new favourite: Cash threads with Gail. Agent FOIA gambled a great risk—he/she waited for this anniversary to release the next tranche of emails assumnig he’d be alive to do so. I wouldn’t put it past this conglomeration- deluded into thinking no one should stand in the way of them saving the planet- into investigating FOIA and perhaps ‘intervening’. The access to the emails points to a inside job. We know it was dumped into a Russian server. The few who are the web gate keepers should be able trace the time and location of the uploads. What is incredible is the feat was repeated. The leaks derailed the Copenhagen meeting Sark, Merk, Brown and O’bama. The combined secret service power of these nations seems unable to ‘deal with’ FOIA. A clue to his/her identity. Who ever it is needs to make provision for the password release incase of a visit from the heavies. The Climate Science perversion is total. Why would ‘Russia’ want to derail the AGW steam roll. Who………………..without the protection of state, would wait a year and repeat the release of these damaging emails.

Barry Day
November 27, 2011 4:19 am

Thanks Gail for the time and effort you have put in that shows up the scoundrels and fraudsters.
Speaking of “scoundrels and fraudsters” SPREAD THIS SO IT BECOMES VIRAL
History of Money: The Money Masters 1/2

Barry Day
November 27, 2011 4:30 am

Thanks Gail for the time and effort you have put in that shows up the scoundrels and fraudsters.
Speaking of “scoundrels and fraudsters”in the U.N, the World Bank,Global Government and the W.W.F etc.
SPREAD THIS SO IT BECOMES VIRAL
History of Money: The Money Masters 1/2

Myrrh
November 27, 2011 11:06 am

“SPREAD THIS SO IT BECOMES VIRAL”
Shouldn’t that be ANTIDOTAL?

November 27, 2011 11:26 am

Michael wrote: They (GE, Goldman Sachs, Cargill, Monsanto) hide behind the WWF to make themselves look politically correct and very green and they’ve been pushing the climate change scare for years.
I submit their actions are designed to crush any competition. And it has worked. Monsanto has a strangle-hold on farm seed, for example. Monsanto also co-sponsored Amy Klobuchar’s “food safety” bill regulating all food production.

Johnnythelowery
November 30, 2011 9:22 am

Gail: Did you watch those links to Youtubes?? What do you think of them?? I know very little of economics. I foud the quotes rather alarming. Is the ideas in them fringe?

December 8, 2011 2:21 pm

http://sppiblog.org/news/a-nest-of-carbon-vipers
The Carbon Rating Agency openly boasts of its highly influential management team and ratings committee: “which includes ratings experts, financial market professionals, UN climate change negotiators and former senior managers from development agencies such as the World Bank, a combination which ensures that the full range of risks facing carbon projects are taken into account by the ratings process.”

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