That headline from Zhang Musheng, one of China’s most influential intellectuals according to this article in the Sydney Morning Herald.
From the article:
A new study by the Netherlands Environment Assessment Agency shows China now emits far more greenhouse emissions than any other country, with emissions doubling between 2003 and 2010.
China’s carbon emissions rose 10 per cent last year alone, to 9 billion tonnes, compared with 5.2 billion tonnes for the United States.
The report showed India’s emissions also rose rapidly, by 9 per cent, although its total emissions are still only one-fifth of China’s.
The most startling finding, however, is that China’s per capita emissions are now higher than several rich nations including France and Italy. China’s per capita emissions could even overtake the US within six years, the study said.
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”If the current trends in emissions by China and the industrialised countries including the US would continue for another seven years, China will overtake the US by 2017 as highest per capita emitter among the 25 largest emitting countries,” said the Netherlands report, which was sponsored by the European Commission and is based partly on BP energy consumption statistics.
Despite the other issues about China, I would expect that Zhang Musheng will become the next victim of the Romm-DeSmog Sliming Industrial Complex.
I suggest the next place for wild eyed protestors like Bill McKibben is to “occupy” Bejing, perhaps Tienanmen Square. I’m sure they’ll get a warm welcome there. Check out the protestor with the purple hair just before McKibben.
turns out Ms. Cowley in the video actually works for the Sierra Club
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/maura-cowley/6/a13/8a5
“Like, we slept out last night? To like, get heard? And like, we believe the corporatists are being heard before us?” So, their air, soil and water is more important than “corporate profit”? AND these doofuses want a job?
And if that first witch being interviewed gets her nose up in the air any higher, we’ll be able to see the the void between her ears.
Latitude says:
October 8, 2011 at 10:26 am
Tell me again why China is a “developing” country.
Because it is developing rapidly unlike the “developed countries” (i.e. the West and Japan) which are stagnating in the worst economic crisis since the 1930s.
Chinas stand that global warming is bogus is a no brainer. They already have total dictatorial power and don’t need an economy and human crippling excuse like global warming to become the dictator they want to be because they already are.
Did the Chinese Lead Climate Change Negotiator give something away, a litle while ago (at a non western conference) 😉
Guardian: Climate change: Chinese adviser calls for open mind on causes
“China’s most senior negotiator on climate change says more research needed to establish whether warming is man-made”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/jan/24/china-climate-change-adviser
“China’s most senior negotiator on climate change said today he was keeping an open mind on whether global warming was man-made or the result of natural cycles. Xie Zhenhua said there was no doubt that warming was taking place, but more and better scientific research was needed to establish the causes.
Xie’s comments caused consternation at the end of the post-meeting press conference, with his host, the Indian environment minister, Jairam Ramesh, attempting to play down any suggestions of dissent over the science of climate change.
Telegraph: China has ‘open mind’ about cause of climate change
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/7067505/China-has-open-mind-about-cause-of-climate-change.html
China’s most senior climate change official surprised a summit in India when he questioned whether global warming is caused by carbon gas emissions and said Beijing is keeping an “open mind
Xie Zhenhua was speaking at a summit between the developing world’s most powerful countries, India, Brazil, South Africa and China, which is now the largest emitter of carbon dioxide, the gas believed to be responsible for climate change.
But Mr Xie, China’s vice-chairman of national development and reforms commission, later said although mainstream scientific opinion blames emissions from industrial development for climate change, China is not convinced.
“There are disputes in the scientific community. We have to have an open attitude to the scientific research. There’s an alternative view that climate change is caused by cyclical trends in nature itself. We have to keep an open attitude,” he said.
Jo Nova has a similar article… (today)
http://joannenova.com.au/2010/10/is-the-western-climate-establishment-corrupt-part-7-other-climate-establishments-disagree/
Some interesting links to Chinese Russian and Indian scientific thoughts on man made global warming…
oops jo Nova wasn’t (today) but a while ago..
As now, China’s per capita emission are ahead of France.. and matching the UK’s by next year (and par with EU average per capita) The EU would be mad to extend Kyoto.. and as China and India will in no way agree to cutting their emissions(per capita or gross) because it will damage their economic growth..which means that the politicians will back away from AGW as politically damaging (to themselves)
Did the non-western world go along with western ideas, because it did not impact them, and seek to game (gain) advantage over the west.. no of course not (sarc off)
Barry, it was predictable that China would attempt a shakedown of the developed West over this ‘precious conceit of a Western elite’. What wasn’t predictable was that they would be able to cover their chagrin over the failure of the shakedown by pointing to the devious neo-colonialist plotting by the premier leader, in his own mind, of that Western elite. I’m talking fast and furiously about our Solyndromic Puppet.
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Furthermore, the Chinese may well see the finger of blame pointing at them about aerosols, climate sciences chameleon-like fudge factor, and in a cooling world, Katie bar the door. I suspect they’ll start scrubbing soon enough.
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Occupy Wall Street=Sons of Soros!
That poll looks a lot like the Puerto Rico statehood vote that the non-voting representative of Puerto Rico put before Congress. It was loaded so that if the bill ever passed, Puerto Rico would be the 51st state. 2 questions were to be put before Puerto Ricans. The first question asked if they wanted everything to be the same or wanted a change in the province’s status. About 49% of Puerto Ricans want statehood, 49% want everything to stay the same, and 2% want independence from the US. So the first vote, the 49% who want statehood and the 2% who want independence will vote for the status to change. The second question asks if they want to be independent or be the 51st state. Most Puerto Ricans want to be part of the US, so they will now vote for statehood.
With the right questions, you can get any result you want. That is exactly what the EU wanted with their poll.
More on the occupy wall street movement.
I found this site last week, they have been covering this topic and have an interesting take on this movement.
http://www.misanthropytoday.com/the-occupy-wall-street-movement-is-really-a-very-stupid-thing/
All the best everyone 🙂
I wonder if they also think paying somebody to dig a hole and paying somebody else to fill it in creates jobs, too?
The number of people in China equipped to understand the topology of natural climate variations FAR exceeds the number of equipped people in the West. This is due to a mathematics education system that delivers FAR superior outcomes. Looking beyond our constant focus on climate, we will see common roots of many of our Western failures (including economic modeling based on untenable assumptions). Some may find these comments harsh. They are based on years of observation as a math & stats student & educator in the post-secondary system. Hopefully leaders in our society are not afraid to gracefully face the truth.
Zac at 10:57 asks why three blades. I’ll take a wildass guess that it has to do with dynamically balancing the blades. If they are not balanced you can imagine how the whole thing will start to vibrate itself to destruction.
Oso gave this a shot up-thread a bit, but actually there are designs with only one blade. You can counterbalance with only one blade or with dozens. The actual answer is that three is what most designs need to extract a reasonable fraction of kinetic energy from the wind. By the way, a single turbine of any design can extract only 59%. This is Betz limit. Most efficient designs manage 45-50% over a range of wind-speed. So, they are about 80% efficient according to the second law of thermodynamics.
Weren’t they monitoring space-to-earth and moon-to-earth communications (and telemetry) like the Soviets back then were?
It took only modest equipment to do so, such that the University of Florida radio observatory folks did with their own equipment:
http://www.svengrahn.pp.se/trackind/Apollo17/APOLLO17.htm
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Not surprising. China is a country of people who make things. That isn’t true of the US any more. Lawyers require less energy than manufacturers.
Did that woman say she was “born on the picket line” ??
So, she’s never had a job?
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Further on hysteria: Mad men and Medusas: reclaiming hysteria
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Zac says:
October 8, 2011 at 10:57 am
Why do wind turbines only have 3 blades?
Look closely at where the blades leave the hub. There is virtually no gap on the hub between the structure for supporting (and turning) the blades. If you had to make room for more blades on the hub, the blades could not be as long.
Them workers look as if it is a coal-fired windmill.
Paul Vaughan says:
October 8, 2011 at 3:12 pm
The number of people in China equipped to understand the topology of natural climate variations FAR exceeds the number of equipped people in the West. This is due to a mathematics education system that delivers FAR superior outcomes….
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AMEN to that Paul.
“For 10 years, William Schmidt, a statistics professor at Michigan State University, has looked at how U.S. students stack up against students in other countries in math and science. “In fourth-grade, we start out pretty well, near the top of the distribution among countries; by eighth-grade, we’re around average, and by 12th-grade, we’re at the bottom of the heap, outperforming only two countries, Cyprus and South Africa.” http://www.enterstageright.com/archive/articles/0804/0804textbooks.htm
The “Dumbing down” of the US citizen has been deliberate. A population that is semi-literate with no math or science and therefore no reasoning skills is much easier to manipulate as those of us here have seen. See: Dumbing Down America by Dr. Samuel Blumenfeld
Paul Vaughan says:
October 8, 2011 at 3:12 pm
The number of people in China equipped to understand the topology of natural climate variations FAR exceeds the number of equipped people in the West. This is due to a mathematics education system that delivers FAR superior outcomes….
Paul, you don’t think that the 3 times bigger (than US) population might have something to do with it?
Curt says:
October 8, 2011 at 5:28 pm
Zac says:
October 8, 2011 at 10:57 am
Why do wind turbines only have 3 blades?
Look closely at where the blades leave the hub. There is virtually no gap on the hub between the structure for supporting (and turning) the blades. If you had to make room for more blades on the hub, the blades could not be as long.
Unless you made bigger diameter hubs?
This topic reminded me of a Punch cartoon that I saw years ago. Fortunately it is available on the internet at:
http://www.punchcartoons.com/History-and-Politics-Social-History-Activism/c273_274_359/p7467/Demonstrators-with-a-sign-Stop-the/product_info.html
IanM