"Global warming is a bogus proposition…''

That headline from  Zhang Musheng, one of China’s most influential intellectuals according to this article in the Sydney Morning Herald.

From the article:

A new study by the Netherlands Environment Assessment Agency shows China now emits far more greenhouse emissions than any other country, with emissions doubling between 2003 and 2010.

China’s carbon emissions rose 10 per cent last year alone, to 9 billion tonnes, compared with 5.2 billion tonnes for the United States.

The report showed India’s emissions also rose rapidly, by 9 per cent, although its total emissions are still only one-fifth of China’s.

The most startling finding, however, is that China’s per capita emissions are now higher than several rich nations including France and Italy. China’s per capita emissions could even overtake the US within six years, the study said.

”If the current trends in emissions by China and the industrialised countries including the US would continue for another seven years, China will overtake the US by 2017 as highest per capita emitter among the 25 largest emitting countries,” said the Netherlands report, which was sponsored by the European Commission and is based partly on BP energy consumption statistics.

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Despite the other issues about China, I would expect that Zhang Musheng will become the next victim of the Romm-DeSmog Sliming Industrial Complex.

I suggest the next place for wild eyed protestors like Bill McKibben is to “occupy” Bejing, perhaps Tienanmen Square. I’m sure they’ll get a warm welcome there. Check out the protestor with the purple hair just before McKibben.

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Sean Peake
October 8, 2011 9:47 am

The conspiracy is coming from one of China’s guests—Mr Strong

October 8, 2011 9:47 am
Mike Bromley the Kurd
October 8, 2011 9:50 am

I love McKibben’s cutesy “Rube from the backwoods” remark. Makes him seem, well, so harmless. Snort!

October 8, 2011 9:52 am

Manics. That’s all I can say about the people in this video. Afraid of life, frightened by shadows and against anything that scares them … which is everything.
Their entire argument is “I’m against”. There’s no rationale behind any of it except some emotional need to be a contrarion.
Thankfully, their are so few of these extremists.

October 8, 2011 10:04 am

Dr Spock, tolerance, self esteem, moral decline, lack of respect, education decline, welfare mentality, political incompetence, voter fraud, propaganda, unions, corruption, greed,… and the list goes on. Add AGW elitist-progressives scamming billioins of someone elses money to finance the spreading the great CO2 scare. It is the perfect example of how corruption leads the ingorant. At least the Chineese understand the value of cheap energy, while our leadership promotes sacrafice and gloom.

October 8, 2011 10:04 am

UK Telegraph journalist James Delingpole noted a similar case about a year ago (11 Aug 2010):
What the Chinese really think of ‘Man Made Global Warming’
“Behind the back of the demonizing of “carbon”, we must recognize that it is the sinister intention of the Developed Countries to attempt to use “carbon” to block the living space of the Developing Countries”
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100050359/what-the-chinese-really-think-of-man-made-global-warming/
Bright people these Chinese.

sunderlandsteve
October 8, 2011 10:05 am

Never mind the lady with the purple hair, what about the bug eyed lady straight after her? Earnest or what!

DJ
October 8, 2011 10:13 am

Meanwhile, back in the EU….
“A new survey shows that more than two-thirds of EU citizens see climate change as a very serious problem, and a vast majority think fighting it can create jobs and help the economy.
The poll says 68 percent of the people in the EU consider climate change a serious threat, up from 64 percent in 2009. And 78 percent said fighting climate change could help jobs and the economy, up from 63 percent two years ago….”
http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D9Q7GUMO0.htm

pokerguy
October 8, 2011 10:17 am

All well and good, but not exactly a help to the skeptical case. The Chinese, even the educated ones, often don’t believe the U.S. really put men on the moon.

Latitude
October 8, 2011 10:26 am

Tell me again why China is a “developing” country………………

John Silver
October 8, 2011 10:26 am

Peculiar; we see it as a communist conspiracy.

Editor
October 8, 2011 10:30 am

The problem is that the Chinese are lacking luminaries like Assemblyman Fred Thiele, i.e.:
“Climate change refers to the issue that the Earth is getting warmer in some areas, but cooler in others.”
“Hand-in-hand with climate change is the problem of global warming.”
“And while the Earth’s overall temperature is increasing, climate change explains the drastic cold periods that some parts of the Earth have and will experience.”
“Climate change and global warming are very real and advancing problems that need to be addressed. While a misinformation campaign financed by powerful special interests has tried to cast doubt on the science behind these environmental threats, it’s important to note that 97 percent to 98 percent of researchers in the field agree that global warming is man-made, according to the National Academy of Sciences.”
http://www.hamptons.com/News/For-The-Record/15733/Thiele-Climate-Change-And-Global-Warming-Are.html
So now global warming and climate change are different, but both “very real and advancing problems”. No wonder that the Chinese are in ascent while the US is in decline…

Leon Brozyna
October 8, 2011 10:30 am

Now I understand what it means when it is said that a person spouts vacuous inanities.

ZT
October 8, 2011 10:54 am

China’s most influential intellectual (eating from pot by windmill):
‘Windmills are a good source of protein – the eagles in particular are delicious’

October 8, 2011 10:54 am

Silly, When it’s hot outside, It’s Global Warming and when it’s cold outside, It’s Climate Change.
Why didn’t I see this all along? Thanks to that assembly man for clarifying.

Zac
October 8, 2011 10:57 am

Why do wind turbines only have 3 blades?

Roy UK
October 8, 2011 11:00 am

After watching that video I feel sick. No-one mentioned anything substantial about pollution or CO2 or effects on the environment. BUT what everyone did mention was {big or foreign or oil} corporations. Its not about the climate.
Delingpole was correct: Watermelons: Green on the outside, red on the inside.

Steve from Rockwood
October 8, 2011 11:20 am

Well there goes the consensus. The band wagon just tilted after 1.25 billion skeptics climbed on board.

Mark
October 8, 2011 11:22 am

DJ says: October 8, 2011 at 10:13 am
“Meanwhile, back in the EU….” The Bloomberg article did not provide a link to the report- the Guardian did- The EU “Climate change” report is located here-
http://ec.europa.eu/public_opinion/archives/ebs/ebs_372_en.pdf
In the summary of the “Climate change” report this is stated-
” Overall, EU citizens consider climate change the second most serious problem facing the world today.”
“One in five (20%) said climate change was the single most serious problem. The only issue perceived to be more serious is poverty, hunger and lack of drinking water, which was mentioned by 28%.1″

TFN JOHNSON
October 8, 2011 11:26 am

It is much better to use consumption of CO2/head. France and Italy import much from China, reducing their CO2 production, increasing China’s.
It is the total demand in all countries that is driving up CO2, and that is the true target of the ‘water melon’ AGW movement – green on the surface but red through and through. If they get their way consumption in rich countries will be controlled by carbon rationing (more likely per head than per $10k income).
That’s why agreeing to the Copenhagen protocol would have been suicide for the West.

artwest
October 8, 2011 11:34 am

DJ says:
October 8, 2011 at 10:13 am
Meanwhile, back in the EU….
“A new survey shows that more than two-thirds of EU citizens see climate change as a very serious problem, and a vast majority think fighting it can create jobs and help the economy.
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From the “Not all is what it seems” Dept.:
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2011/10/sacre-bleu-eees-climate-change.html

Gordon Cheyne
October 8, 2011 11:36 am

Here in Australia, our pollies keep telling us that Australia has the world’s per capita emissions.
Of course they add in all our coal exports, just to make the figures look worse, and to make us all feel guilty.

kim
October 8, 2011 11:37 am

I’ve long wondered whether Maurice Strong is in China advising them, or being advised of his rights.
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e?
October 8, 2011 11:46 am

According to this article and publicly available data on Australia’s total emissions (oddly not mentioned by the leftist SMH), China last year added two Australias worth of carbon emissions to its production, and next year will add another two, and so on – apparently ad infinitum.
Yet, the Greens/Australian Labor Party coalition thinks that Australians ruining the earth is the most serious moral challenge of our time and wants a carbon tax to bankrupt Australians and drive out every last domestic industry, to maybe save 5% of 10% of China’s annual emissions, or 5% of its yearly growth, for an effect on the environment that will never be felt. Well that’s nice, let’s just hang up the closed sign and give up on our future, while China ’emits’ what we won’t.
Anybody in favour of this ruinous policy is either mentally ill or seriously loathes the west (or both).

October 8, 2011 11:52 am

Ah, we saved the Chinese from the Warrior, ethno-centered Japanese (Rape of Nankin anyone?)
They may end up saving US from our own INSANE PEOPLE.
Do they still have ROOM in “Outer Mongolia”? I’ve got a great idea for a “Carbon Trade” (Carbon as in Carbon Base Species..)
Max

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