Open Thread Holiday Weekend

Since this is a holiday weekend, and after the bombshell Spencer and Braswell revelation today, there’s not much else besides watching tropical storm Lee and Hurricane Katia this weekend.

I have several things to do in the home improvement realm that have been neglected while I work on WUWT and other projects, and I need to step away for a bit. I may update WUWT if something happens related to tropical weather, and guest authors are welcome to post. But I don’t plan to spend much time online this weekend.

Have a nice holiday weekend, see you all back here Tuesday.

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Blade
September 3, 2011 4:28 am

Ed Mertin [September 2, 2011 at 9:27 pm] says:
“What about the Justice Department raids on guitar maker Gibson?”

Pretty amazing isn’t it? Obama and his Department of InJustice is trying to kill another American company. They are doing this under the guise of some obscure Indian ‘law’ (which even India care less about) concerning use of certain wood *after* they sell and export it overseas to companies like Gibson and Martin (and …)!
Remember who was the big bad boogeyman during the last administration? Yes, Ashcroft, who was busy gunning for terrorists, not guitar makers. Well, we can’t have any of that, can we? No, we need hope and change. We need Eric Holder, the worst Attorney General ever, who sees nothing wrong with Black Panther intimidation at polling stations and who thinks American companies are corrupt and illegal. Congratulations to any dummies here who fell for this idiocy and voted for President Dumbo. You got real change, the systematic destruction of your own country. Thanks, geniuses.
Anyway, lots of discussion threads at FreeRepublic with links to original source articles …
Federal agents search Gibson Guitar factory in Memphis
Feds Raid Gibson Guitar
Eco-zealous feds target Gibson guitars, antique piano sellers; Updated: Gibson explains
Gibson Guitar Corp. Responds to Federal Raid (Claims DOJ wants wood finished in India)
CEO of Gibson Guitar a Republican donor; Democrat competitor uses same wood
Gibson Competitor is Dem Donor;Uses Same Wood, ExperiencedNo Federal Raids
Gibson Guitar CEO: We’re Under Attack By Obama Administration
If Gibson Is Not Safe, Nobody Is
Gibson Guitar Corp. Responds to Federal Raid
Dana with Gibson CEO – Henry Juszkiewicz (Audio)
Michelle Obama Gives French First Lady a Gibson Guitar (flashback to 2009)
DOJ Advises Gibson Guitar to Export Labor to Madagascar
Gibson CEO: Obama Administration Told Us Our Problems Would Go Away If We Used Madagascar Labor…..
Gibson CEO: Feds Demanded Foreign Labor
DOJ Advises Gibson Guitar to Export Labor to Madagascar
Why Are The Feds Gunning For Gibson? And Is This Any Way To Stimulate The Economy?
Gibson Guitars Strung Up by Feds
Gibson: Feds Want Guitar Woodwork Done by Foreign Labor

Beesaman
September 3, 2011 5:19 am

It has been a fascinating few weeks watching the ups and downs of the Arctic ice.
I confess I’ve been doing this while watching the ups of the English Cricket team and the downs of the Indian one, but all of that might change starting this weekend with the one day matches.
From the NOAA drifting North Pole camera it would seem that the new freeze season has set in. The melt ponds seem to be freezing over:
http://www.arctic.noaa.gov/latest/noaa1.jpg
And the temperatures recorded by the Polar Area Weather Station ( PAWS ) Buoy
Buoy ID 420120 seem to be consistently negative now:
http://psc.apl.washington.edu/northpole/PAWS_atmos_recent.html
Looking at Dr Ryan Maue’s 2 metre temperature animations also hints at a start to the freeze up:
http://coaps.fsu.edu/~maue/temperature/gfs/arc_t2m.html
It will be interesting to see how this will all be spun over the next few weeks. An obvious death spiral has not happened, that is a fact. We might see, by a small amount, a new low in ice extent, though that will be touch and go over the next few weeks. A lot of slush type ice (shuga and grease ice) has been reported this year; it will be interesting to see if this accelerates ice growth in the new season.
As I’ve had time to follow the Arctic ice this summer, it has been a revelation to me, just how much the extent is weather driven. It has got me wondering just how much of the Arctic ice is really dependent on the climate and how much is at the mercy of unpredictable weather events?
As for Arctic ice volume, well that’s for the modellers to argue over.
Odd how no one from the AGW crowd seems to be able to explain why the Antarctic ice is not melting away, or is the physics too difficult and the data not matching the models?
http://nsidc.org/data/seaice_index/images/daily_images/S_timeseries.png

September 3, 2011 5:44 am

Blade responds to: (September 3, 2011 at 4:28 am) “What about the Justice Department raids on guitar maker Gibson?”
But that’s not the America, Land of the Free, you’re talking about, Blade?

Steve C
September 3, 2011 6:25 am

Charles Nelson – Presumably you have already picked up “A Chronological Listing of Early Weather Events” (pdf). Maybe you should get together with its author to produce an even bigger collection … or perhaps specialise in events after 1900 (where that one stops). But that pdf by itself casts a very harsh and unforgiving light on any claim that there is anything “unusual” or “unprecedented” in current conditions.

Laurie Bowen
September 3, 2011 7:51 am

I would like to contribute the work of a person that I never forgot . . . Even though he called himself an Astrology, he based his work on Astronomy and indirectly physics . . . He was one of the first cyclical theorist that I ever came across in the flesh . . .
I would like to contribute his paper on procession . . . and how he explains it in “pictures” so that there is a complete different perspective . . .
“from the big picture perspective” so to speak. . .
I throw it out there, for both the open minded and the skeptics alike . . . but, I believe, he was a man far ahead of the “curves”!
Here are two links . . . I would attribute to him . . .
Simplified Astronomy for Astrologers
http://lovestarz.com/astronomy.html
Astronomical Cycles
http://www.thefuture.com.au/acyc.htm
And others . . .
http://www.thefuture.com.au/cycref.htm
I hope you find it worth discussing . . . and I would look forward to know what other think about it . . .

DirkH
September 3, 2011 8:39 am

Come over to
http://notrickszone.com
– Pierre has a great video of Fred Singer and Claes Johnson talking in Belgium.

September 3, 2011 8:56 am

Charles Nelson that sounds like a fantastic idea. I don’t know what you’re thinking of but I’m imagining a public database that lets users submit and edit weather events, rate them for severity, provide links to resources, etc. I’d be willing to buy a domain and host such a site, although I have a lot of hobbies that take up my limited spare time.. If there are any other PHP/MySQL type people on here that would like to collaborate please e-mail me joshedlund [at] gmail [dot] com….

DirkH
September 3, 2011 9:15 am

James Evans says:
September 3, 2011 at 3:06 am
“In other words, temperatures started shooting up when we began sticking thermometers all over the place. Don’t you get it? It’s the thermometers! They’re causing the warming! I’m pretty sure that if we destroy all the thermometers, this global warming thing will just go away.”
Is that a lame attempt at deriding skepticism? Well, in case you don’t know, GISTEMP made a huge jump in the nineties by getting rid of about 4,500 thermometers; they deleted the cooler ones.

Also, in Europe there are temperature stations reporting for 200 years and more so I must call your hypothesis debunked.

September 3, 2011 9:43 am

Open thread? OK: click

H.R.
September 3, 2011 10:25 am

@Smokey
Very good (and funny) but I think “Private Jet,” “My”, and “Wealthy” should have been in there. Oh… and where’s “Bush?”

Laurie Bowen
September 3, 2011 10:39 am
September 3, 2011 11:10 am

Crazy Pete’s Enviro Friendly Galleria

Laurie Bowen
September 3, 2011 12:54 pm

Team Plots ‘Fake Volcano’ to Cool Planet
Giant hose will pump particles into stratosphere
http://www.newser.com/story/127411/team-plots-fake-volcano-to-cool-planet.html

James Evans
September 3, 2011 1:02 pm

DirkH says:
“Is that a lame attempt at deriding skepticism?”
No. Actually it’s a lame attempt at deriding the consensus. You don’t find it odd that, according to the consensus position, temperatures started to go up just as we started to measure them?
Take a look at the hockey stick graphs – there are a few on Wikipedia.

P Walker
September 3, 2011 1:02 pm

Someone should compose a petition to Obama demanding that he get off the AGW bandwagon :
http://www.whitehouse.gov/wethepeople

September 3, 2011 1:14 pm

Smokey, where do you get them from. +1.
When’s the next ‘Bama Bingo game?

Kelvin Vaughan
September 3, 2011 1:32 pm

It’s the Sun!
August 2011 in the UK
Only 76% of average sunshine. AverageUK maximum temperatures were 0.8C below normal.

PaulH
September 3, 2011 1:34 pm

Pipeline protest silliness.
“Recent actions, both on the ground and the web, show the desperation and lack of logic of those protesting against the Keystone XL pipeline.”:
http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/video/pipeline-protests/1141042727001

AlexS
September 3, 2011 1:37 pm

Icebreaker Oden retained in Sweden for next Winter – and not available for cooperation with USA -because of harsh winters.
Copy of Swedish Government letter sent to Mrs. Secretary Clinton in link:
.
http://autonomousmind.wordpress.com/2011/08/31/reality-of-sea-ice-is-starting-to-bite/

Eimear
September 3, 2011 2:41 pm

AlexS
Great story.

DirkH
September 3, 2011 3:43 pm

James Evans says:
September 3, 2011 at 1:02 pm
“DirkH says:
“Is that a lame attempt at deriding skepticism?”
No. Actually it’s a lame attempt at deriding the consensus. You don’t find it odd that, according to the consensus position, temperatures started to go up just as we started to measure them?”
My apologies. But as I said, that’s not true. Here’s 300 years of temperature records from Berlin.
http://notrickszone.com/2010/09/23/own-weather-records-contradict-germanys-weather-service-director/
We are now where we were in 1800. (for this particular station)

September 3, 2011 5:41 pm

O the Humanity! clicky

September 3, 2011 6:27 pm