Riots May Have Killed Britain's Green Consensus

“The riots have undoubtedly emboldened those Conservative backbenchers who are at best indifferent to environmental issues and at worst openly hostile to green policies.”
So, “green policies” are sacroscanct, eh? I equate them to abject stupidity (see cedarhill’s nice description on growing tomatoes above), or reversing decades or even centuries of scientific discovery followed by engineered solutions that provide advances in living when it comes to the production of food, energy, transportation, housing, education, and all the rest.
So no, the “indifference” mentioned above isn’t really what that author wants you to believe–the “indifference” is a resounding rejection of illogical policies that don’t and can’t advance civilization in general or the quality of life for individual’s in particular (unless they’re making money in some controlling way).
When will the brainless ever learn? (Or can we hope these riots finally woke up some of the elites that are pushing a selfish, non-sustainable agenda?)

If anyone ever wanted to see the green job explosion, the above is it in a microcosm. Millions thrown at an industry only to send the jobs to China….. Or creates imaginary jobs such as the example in Seattle.
As to the riots there and the flash mobs here…….. its heart breaking.

If you were a really cynical person you could speculate that the the riots were the best argument required to turn over the nanny state and it’s failed left wing dogma of NGO’s, Quango’s and institutions that tell you how you should live whilst creaming off your taxation for unelected officials that earn more than the Prime Minister.
You could also speculate that it offers the perfect opportunity to reform the, increasingly independent, Police force making them accountable for their actions with the introduction of elected senior officers that can be ousted without account passing to ministers.
Another opportunity also arises to introduce laws to remove people from the streets at the whim of local constabularies without applying to the courts first. These new laws will allow officers to remove any concealing clothing from those whom are ‘suspected’ of breaching the peace and also allow localised curfews to be enforced. Perfect to counter rioting but also useful to close down an area around a pub, night club or even barbeque in a back garden, yard, that has got rowdy.
We might even find that if the cause of the rioting is intentionally directed towards the young, black, organised crime gangs then a multitude of further Conservative pollicies can be brought to the fore whilst turning the country away from the Liberal and Labour ‘caring’ about our dissaffected youth in time for an election ringing with the success of an Olympic year in the capitol.
Of course you would have to be totally cinical if you were to try and tie all this to single incident in Tottenham that sparked a powder keg in an area that was awaiting an excuse to vent anger, even if the extent of the anger spread further than intended and caught many forces off guard for a couple of nights, what is the phrase coined so often by the American authority……. collateral damage.
There will be a climate shift in attitude and policy in the UK, some beneficial some not. What will not change is that our freedom will be further erroded and we will be paying for it through our taxation.
Democracy is the worst form of government, apart from all the others….. Winston Churchill, I believe.

What will happen is all so depressing and predictable…..
There will be “A Crackdown” as there has been ‘Crackdowns’ before n number of times and n is now tending towards a very large number.
Crackdowns involve creating yet more ways of criminalising people, making them feel like criminals even when they’re not, restricting liberties and (not least), more ways of taking money off people in the way of fines and taxes. The level of fines have already been decided as I write this, its just the number of new offences that is to be decided as various Government depts fight over how much they think they’re due and how many more staff they’ll need. Government job creation, UK style, at its finest.
As an example of a previous crackdown, UK truckers tried a similar protest to what the Aussie truckers are now engaging in.
Result= UK truckers now have they’re licences to trade removed from them the minute they’re deemed to be organising a protest. They are effectively put right out of business and all the while over zealous police will be photographing, checking tachographs, seatbelts, lights and even fining them for smoking whilst in their cabs (not in proper control of the vehicle you see)
In a nutshell, THAT is what the riots were about – Big Brother is now getting too big.

The economic situation in Europe will stifle any agenda that the IPCC can muster on the CAGW front. The USA will be in no mood to transfer any wealth by carbon trading so long as they are reminded of their government’s debt. As long as it’s AA+, they can’t do anything to “stop the rising seas” or whatever O said.
it’s effectively over. They could all start saving money by defunding the alarmist research.

Our schools in the USA can’t teach the most basic of morals (no stealing, no cheating, no lying) without being accused of being judgmental, or discriminating. Our children are taught that crime comes from economic and social injustice; many criminal acts are therefore justified and excusable. (That sounds like a judgment, too, btw.)
Is it any wonder that children who never learned to respect others only think of themselves?

“Green jobs” aka weatherizing involves handing a drug addicted ex-con a caulk gun to hold while he wanders around casing your house and trying to figure out when you’ll be gone.

elbapo says:
August 16, 2011 at 8:32 am
Those of a rightwing persuasion – be aware, however; if the sons and daughters of the ‘left’ who have spent years/£££ conversing/ protesting/ cycling and buying holier than consumables in the name of ‘saving the earth’ transfer this into attacking real problems, like deprivation and inequality – then the right really is in trouble!!
[Short version:
Snap out of it, elbapo, with you it’s only “de ja vu all over again”: you are entranced by mere unhinged verbiage which manages to confuse you while only leading everyone backwards toward Totalitarianism, which then puts nearly everyone “in trouble”!]
elbapo, as you prove again, the Left’s “thinking” doesn’t ever do anything other than complain about unhinged, purely word fetish/phobias such as “deprivation” and “inequality”! Which provenly ends up again and again in the real world of action – as now demonstrated by Britian’s rioters – with people like you encouraging and justifying the acts of people who destroy everything which creates wealth = ~”the rich conservative shop owners”.
Whereas, wealth creation, in contrast to wealth appropriation, otherwise involves essentially increasing standards of living through individually created innovations, inventions, and “sweat equity”, along with the availability of reasonably costing energy, if and as based upon the protected freedoms of individual thought and the Liberty of individual actions toward self-betterment – for example, as conceived and implemented by the individuals who created the U.S.’s system of Constitutional Capitalism. It works!
It works despite your obsession with “inequality” and even because of it: free, productive people simply don’t want to be in their previous state of permanently “equal” wealth or “deprivation”, and they usually want everyone else to improve their own lot, too, as per their protected right and legally assisted and ensured opportunity; and without the Government simply taking it away and giving it to others, such that then no one has any incentive to create wealth!
In contrast, the abject failure of a Statist or Totalitarian system to create any wealth is something which Communism has proven over and over again, by instead creating the epitome of what it says it is trying to eliminate, the de-evolved Master-Slave society – the very epitome of a classist society. Which strips the wealth off the backs of anyone who has it!
But when Communism doesn’t work, people like you ~“blame something or someone else” [Milton Freidman’s definition of an economic Communist] such as the “rightwing” or even “the sons and daughers of the ‘left'” – groups somehow imaginarily contrived to constitute the universe of all thinking people, but of course ignoring the rational thought of Classical Liberal individualists – and then only set about to try to do the same thing which didn’t work, again!
Just as the latte’ Communist Obama examples with his first ‘tranformantional’ and implied ‘revolutionary’ claim that “we are the people we’ve been waiting for”, then, while doing everything he can to attack Constitutional Capitalism, he now calls for more gov’t spending [ = the further looting of America] again, which he just got through proving once again doesn’t increase GDP and employment!
In other words, elbapo, in your inhinged groundhog day dream system of unhinged verbiage, you once again can only manage to obsess about your own salvation via group salvation, which you’ve just criticized a.k.a. “saving the earth”, via again eventually creating the same old systematic equality of deprivaton and slavery – allegedly in service of ending the same things – which Statists or Communists always ‘create’.
elbapo, you say, “Too long has the ‘Left’ been obsessed with circular and self-defeating green navelguasing – based on assumption rather than evidence,” then you want to do the same thing all over again!
Attn., ebalpo, you are being misled by mere words, mere verbiage! You must make sure the words you use mean something in the real world! Otherwise your “thinking” will not work and may even be used to lead you to produce results which are the opposite of what you vaguely conceived in your wishful dreams.
And the personal “meaning” you apparently want to achieve will be the opposite of what you wanted – you will have completed your own life as nothing more than a “useful idiot”!

Riots May Have Killed Britain’s Green Consensus
One can only hope that some good can come from the superstitions, destruction, and deaths spawned by AGW ‘science’.
“When you believe in things that you don’t understand, then you suffer. Superstition ain’t the way!”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDZFf0pm0SE

In EU industries of all kinds are moving to asia. For one single reason, too expensive with all the taxes, fines, and what not the enviro-fundmanetalist communist hippies and other communists has dreamt up to make industries pay to exist or settle in countries in EU.
Industries in EU pay an enormous amount of money in taxes just for the right to hire and employ people. These people then have to pay numerous taxes for the right to work. The industries also pays all sort of taxes on profit. They have to pay dearly for property. Pre-fines for keeping everything to highest euro-cratic standards of clean and green (not that it seem to be doing much good anyway). The R&D cost alone to keep pushing to meet the eurocrazy safety standards is mind boggling (that cost has to be earned back from somewhere else in the company).
But for some reason EU has several standards for things like power outlets and rail roads and not even a primary common language, so the cost to adapt and produce eurcrazy supposedly clean, green and safe has to be paid for by, wait for it… no not the industries, no they moved the production to asia, the laid of workers who are now poorer consumers therefor need really cheap asian produced stuff with less safety (conforming to safety standards is a bit different apparently in asia, but since the product is produced outside EU different rules apply).
It was done for our best, right, the “perfect” welfare system, to save the earth, but still not the stupendous jay walkers who still think they’ll not break their legs crossing the street even though that horrendously expensive to R&D and to conform to the highest of the eurocratic safety and design standards really doesn’t do much to protect hurrying legs from frustrated drivers in rush hour. But hey, the socialist governments are a truly happy, because with the extra money they got from the industries they can afford to put up even more “traffic” cameras (all made in asia of course). But don’t think the safety bumper industry (using only recycled materials, I’m “sure”) is booming in EU, apparently, it is even too expensive for them ( and dealing with petrochemical products in EU…)
Ironically the service sector was teeming, then enter present day reality not so much since nobody wants to service a bunch of poor folks on the dole who can’t pay for the services. :p
You have to be truly crazy green to believe you can run a profitable country without “dirty” industries, except into the ground.
It is no wonder the logistics industries are booming though, because everything is produced and manufactured somewhere else. Only problem though, the green horror now wants to have all the cargo go by train. And they have yet to come up with one single design and safety standard for common power outlets. :()

What on earth is “Weatherization”?