Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
A judge has ordered the University of Virginia to release Professor Michael Mann’s emails pursuant to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request. Mann is the climatologist who developed of the “Hockeystick” graph, which became the icon of the IPCC climate alarmism … until it was shown to be what Dr. Richard Muller of the Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature [BEST] project called “an artifact of bad mathematics”. Mann claimed that the ring widths of a few trees in the US Southwest somehow revealed the temperature history of the planet. Seems extremely doubtful. Mann also features in the Climategate scandal as (inter alia) the scientist who (at a minimum) forwarded a request to illegally destroy emails that showed Mann and other scientists conspiring to subvert the IPCC process.
Me, I’m opposed to going the legal route to solve scientific problems. I’d like to think that scientific disputes could be settled between scientists. I have a very deep aversion to what in my childhood was known as “calling the law on a man.” I grew up in the old tradition of the American West, which held (and for me still holds) that calling the law should be the last resort, when all other methods have failed.
However, in this case, all other methods have failed. Professor Mann is famous for saying that asking him to reveal his data is “intimidation”. Even a Congressional committee hardly dented him. And the climate science community is famous for never, ever, ever saying anything negative about another climate scientist. Bad form to speak ill of someone’s work or actions, don’cha know, they might return the favor. And given those two facts, I fear that the legal route is the only one open for those who want to find out what Mann did while on the Virginia taxpayers’ dime. However, taking this route immediately raised a veritable poolpah of claims that this is invading Mann’s privacy, or that it is treading on Mann’s intellectual rights, or inimical to his scientific freedom, or other claims along those lines.
For me, the issue in this case is very simple. It is generally spelled out in the Employee’s Manual of almost any large organization, institution, or business. It says that while you are working for your employer, your time is not your own. What you write is not your own. What you produce is not your own. What you patent is not your own. What you email is not your own. What you discover is not your own. None of what you produce on company time belongs to you.
It belongs to whoever is paying you. Period. It’s that way for the majority of employees of virtually every large concern, and has been for many years.
So all of the squawking about “privacy” and “intellectual rights” and “private emails” is nonsense. If Michael Mann wants his emails to be private, he should be self-employed. If he works for a business, those emails are the property of the business. And if he works for the taxpayer, if the taxpayer is funding his work, then nothing done on “company time”, none of his work and none of his emails and none of his data or his computer code, are “private” or “personal” or “his intellectual property”. They are, as the court ordered, subject to Freedom of Information Act requests.
Mann, however, has found a curious ally in this fight, as reported in the “Old Virginia Watchdog“, which says:
ATI [the organization that brought the suit] hailed the decision as a victory for transparency, but there are concerns in the academic world that such measures could threaten the scientific community.
The faculty at UVA issued a statement the day of the ruling to that effect. Mann also has found an unlikely ally in University of California Berkeley physicist Richard A. Muller, who famously denounced the hockey stick graph as “an artifact of poor mathematics.”
“We need some degree of privacy,” Muller said Thursday in an exclusive interview with Old Dominion Watchdog. “Scientists alone should decide how and what to publish in their results, looking at private files in a public setting is an unfair standard.”
Whoa, whoa, whoa, Dr. Muller. If this was Court TV, I’d expect the lawyer to say “Assumes facts not in evidence”.
Who said anything about whether or not scientists should “decide how and what to publish”? As far as I know, no one has told Mann, or threatened to tell him, what or when to publish. Dr. Muller is falsely casting the issue as one of “prior restraint on publication”. He is wrongly claiming that someone is trying to decide what Mann can publish, which is a very serious charge with First Amendment implications.
Where is the evidence for that, for prior restraint? The FOIA request is nothing of the sort. It is a request for emails from six years ago and older. How Dr. Muller got from a request for six-year-old emails, to his claim of prior restraint or conditions on publication, is difficult to understand without drawing perhaps unwarranted conclusions.
The article continues:
Muller said he believes that public oversight could interfere with the scientific process and sees the FOIA request as an “indirect attempt to shut down Mann’s scientific work.”
If Mann ever gets around to actually doing some scientific work, as opposed to churning out endless attempts to justify his “artifact of bad mathematics”, I suppose that someone might try to shut him down. But that’s just a fantasy about an improbable future.
More to the point, again Muller is spinning this as being about the future, when it is about the past. People want and have a right to know exactly what transpired between Mann and his partners in “crimate” (the intersection of climate and crime). It’s not about trying to shut down Mann’s future work. The Climategate emails pulled back the curtain on a host of very ugly, anti-scientific, and possibly criminal actions. Mann was shown to be up to his neck in them, and the taxpayers have a right to know just what he did and didn’t do while they were paying his salary. Has nothing to do with an “indirect attempt” to do anything. We want to know what he did.
“I may disagree with his scientific analysis, but I object to him coming under public inquiry,” [Muller] said, invoking Voltaire.
Voltaire is famous for saying (but it seems never actually said)
I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.
Voltaire didn’t mention public scrutiny, however. Nor did Voltaire mention trying to evade responsibility. Mann’s work is one of the cornerstones of the AGW movement, which aims to restructure the economy of the entire planet … and Dr. Muller doesn’t think that every aspect of Mann’s work that was paid for by the taxpayer should receive the closest scrutiny possible? Why is that?
I do not know why Muller doesn’t want people to look into Mann’s past, but he’s definitely concerned about it. Perhaps he is concerned that people might look into his own past actions, I don’t know. Maybe it’s just paranoia, the university variant of the fear of the MIB coming to spy on them. Whatever it is, it is important enough for Muller to invent a claim that the issue is prior restraint, which is very odd regarding a request for old emails. In any case, the article continues:
Muller said he is glad the emails came to light, but feels the “ends — snooping in on private conversations — do not justify the means.”
What is it with these guys and their idea of “it’s mine, mine, mine, you can’t see it!”. Those are NOT PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS, Dr. Muller. They are part of the work product of Dr. Mann’s paid employment. They are the property of the University of Virginia, they were paid for by the Virginia taxpayer, and (as the Court has ruled) they are subject to inspection by private citizens. Why is that so hard to grasp? Heck, I can paraphrase Voltaire myself, try this:
“I may disagree with Mann’s scientific analysis, but I will defend to the death the public’s right to see what he has done.”
The article goes on to say:
ATI’s request is separate from the investigation launched last year by Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli, who battled the university for similar documents in 2010 in the hopes of prosecuting Mann.
As I said above, I don’t like the legal route, particularly the Cuccinelli route. But the other so-called scientific safeguards have failed, leaving little option.
Muller stands by his rival even more stridently in that case.
“A public reprimand is unnecessary,” he said. “Their reputations in the science community have already suffered; that is the most appropriate punishment.”
That is patent nonsense. Mann is still feted and lauded, his papers are still accepted without the kind of suspicion appropriate to his past deceptions. Phil Jones is still churning along in his job. Trenberth is agitating to try to reverse the null hypothesis. The idea that the reputations of Mann and the other the Climategate conspirators have suffered is absolutely untrue.
But even if their reputations had suffered, Mann and the Climategaters are still leading the charge to impoverish the world and restructure the global economy, and Dr. Muller wants to make the claim that Mann should not face responsibility for his (perhaps criminal) actions because his reputation has supposedly suffered?
My goodness, a suffering reputation. Does it hurt a lot when that happens? Those university professors must be the real sensitive types. See, outside the ivy halls when someone does the things that Mann and the Climategate folks did, they can’t just whine “I’m an oppressed scientist and my reputation hurts already!” and expect to walk away scot free.
Beyond the ivory tower, people who deceive and subvert and collude end up hurting in more than their reputations. So I fear that Dr. Muller’s elitist claim, that the most appropriate punishment is to spank them across their academic reputations (and besides they’ve already been spanked enough), just reveals how truly distant the mainstream climate scientists are from the real world.
Mann and the other Climategate participants have never taken responsibility, much less apologized, for their actions. They have stage-managed the so-called “Investigations” so well that nothing at all was investigated. Yes, the investigation found nothing in Mann’s emails … because the investigators didn’t even look at the emails. In addition, not only did Mann never answer the important questions about the emails, he was never even asked about the emails. That’s not an investigation, that’s a joke.
And now Dr. Muller wants us to just forget about it and move on, because he thinks that the poor scientist babbies have suffered enough …
Suffered enough? They haven’t suffered at all, Dr. Muller. So far they have denied responsibility entirely. They have skated completely, to the applause of their co-conspirators and well-wishers, and go around proclaiming their innocence. And Dr. Muller, now you want to pat them on the head and say poor oppressed scientists, your reputations have suffered enough, go and sin no more?
I’m sorry, that’s not going to happen.
Given what we know, that Mann and others stand convicted by their own words for some actions spelled out in the Climategate emails, and that there is very strong circumstantial evidence of him and the others having done a variety of other unethical or perhaps illegal things, the reputations of Mann and the rest of the Climategate crowd have not suffered nearly enough. In this Climategate list I include any actual criminals, as well as the lesser malfeasants, corrupters, and data manipulators; those who looked the other way as others manipulated the IPCC results; those who aided and abetted them to do things like pack the peer review panels and intimidate editors; those who conducted sham “investigations” and covered up the egregious actions; and those who merely cheered them on in their dirty fight.
If this had happened in a business setting, where their loss in reputation would truly be commensurate with their actions, after the things that they have done few of the whole crew would be either employed or employable.
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What if Mann, Jones et al. were accountants working for a private oil company?
If you have nothing to hide you have nothing to fear. Yet the fear is obvious. ;O)
We are often reminded the the United States is just a small part of the world. We are often reminded that the Medieval Warm Perios was just a localised, NH event. You can’t win with these people, heads they win, tails you lose.
Correction:
“………….that the Medieval Warm Period……”
sunsettommy says:
July 2, 2011 at 11:22 pm
I believe that Dr. Mann and others like him have something they do not want the public to know. So they whip up absurd excuses on why we should not see the information.
That is why they go to great lengths to fight disclosures of any kind.They are hiding something that would destroy something.Maybe it is the AGW hypothesis or maybe something far worse?
They are not behaving like scientists.But like propagandist in employ with someone else.
No? Gowsh, d’ya think?
Isn’t it overdue? Or are they waiting until after COP Durban November 28 to December 9, 2011. ;O)
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Scott Brim says:
July 2, 2011 at 11:46 pm
Dr. Mann’s obligations to the University of Virginia were only what his employment contract stipulated them to be.
From a legal perspective, the only relevant question here is this — did he, or did he not, fulfill his obligations to the University per his written employment contract?
As people have already pointed out this is incorrect.
From a legal perspective, when a researcher is allocated to a government funded grant or contract it is made clear in the Research grant or contract that everything that the money is used for, be that the research data, results and any byproducts,written or computer processed records, computers, software desks chairs stationery ALL belong to or ‘are vested in’ the funding authority. There are very very explicit rules on ‘commingling of funds’ to avoid any confusion over what is ‘the university’s’ and what is public property.
These vesting clauses cannot be superseded by decisions of a researcher, the department or the university to keep things confidential or private. I have known of research departments that have broken these rules and had their government funding completely withdrawn and blocks put on any further grant or research contract funding from Federal or State sources. The fact that University of Virginia is willing to risk this loss of government funding makes one wonder whether the emails provide evidence of something that if revealed would also result in loss of Federal and State funding.
Methinks the university doth protest too much.
“Me, I’m opposed to going the legal route to solve scientific problems.”
Me, I’m opposed to the suspicion of fraud, fraud that if it is fraud, has had consequences for people all around the globe, being left to the tender mercy of the scientific community alone. What many of us have is the suspicion that it is ingenuous to believe that what we have here is simply a matter of scientific dispute.
I thought, oh, ‘nother long wind-dead post by this ‘n that host. But it’s Willis.Yeah. Does he publish? He should a’build a boat ‘n cross an Atlantic. That would put him in a movie, and make him memorable amongst the living.
O.K. I read half of it. Such verbiage.
Blah blah blah.
Influence meter = ZERO
Text does not affect.
Put it on camera.
We want to see ya, not delve into each stinky footnote.
Probably I’m just suffering nostalgia for the ‘good old days’, when research was done by old blokes who had tenure assisted by nerdy graduate students who couldn’t afford to wash their own clothes. No money, not much gear, but geez, science moved along smartly in the 50s and 60s. I suppose the Apollo program had something to do with the way science evolved; an enormous team backed by megabucks produced some immortal achievements. Going to the moon was billed as great science, but in truth it was great technology. Later NASA programs in the 70s and 80s produced fantastic science, but while it was still expensive, it wasn’t sexy. Universities and research institutions seem to have appropriated the NASA approach, though: megabuck investments in teams of researchers and ginormous computers are the norm. Such projects are way, way beyond the funding capacity University budgets. These days, you’d earn more attaboys from your Department Head for a fat three-year grant than would come your way for a paper describing a functional GUT. Yes, it’s teamwork, but the people you have to impress are the ones handing out the grants. And how likely are you to get the dosh if your theory is at odds with what one of the grant committee members has already done? Then your team has to decide how much of the collective results to publish, and how much to hold back for the next grant application. The old bloke with tenure lost all his grad students to the big lab with the big money anyhow, and one more paper incrementally advancing science isn’t going to save his little lab; Admin needs the space for the dozen new contact administrators they’ve hired. The worm will turn, of course. Michael Manne, Phil Jones and their fellow groupthinkers will make sure of it. Until then, we’ll just have to watch ’em burn our megabucks.
Willis, I always read your articles with a view to finding something in them with which I might disagree. Once again, you have defeated me.
I am not sure how you do it but you seem to be able to read my mind. Had I the vocabulary, the energy and the ability to think as clearly as you, this would have been my article.
Professor Muller seems to have started to walk backwards down the road, away from damascas for some reason best known to him and it does seem a little suspicious to me.
I am of the opinion that all the information necessary to prove malfeasance and conspiracy is in the E-Mails. Only political will is required to convict those involved.
I prefer the phrase, “partners in clime.”
Scott Brim says:
Dr. Mann’s obligations to the University of Virginia were only what his employment contract stipulated them to be.
From a legal perspective, the only relevant question here is this — did he, or did he not, fulfill his obligations to the University per his written employment contract?
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Scott, this is how I understand it: there is a Federal stipulation (over-riding or sitting on top of all contracts) that research and knowledge paid for by public money belongs to the public and they have access to it as a Constitutional Right. This also used to apply to inventions discovered by public money. It was found, after analysis, that if something is not patented it has a poor chance of reaching the market and benefitting the public so about 1982 the rule was changed to ‘all things must be patented’ so there is an incentive to develop inventions into a practical products.
A patent reveals how the thing works! The details are all there! So either the publicly funded information is freely available, or is it freely accessible even if permission to profit from it is temporarily (20 years) restricted.
That is why there is so much input (above) from readers about public money and access, including the other work (emails) created on the public dime.
I have supervised student projects which involved private inventions which remained secret (for pre-patenting purposes) but even then, they are subject FOIA if there is a good reason. NDA’s routinely have sections on appropriate warnings that something is going to be revealed by a judicial process even for the most secretive and private information.
The core objection above is that investigations have not asked relevant questions yet proclaim all is above board or properly secreted in their various safe deposit boxes. This is a version of ‘Don’t ask, don’t tell.” They didn’t ask, and no one told.
Hold on as moment there Willis – you say “Suffered enough? They haven’t suffered at all, Dr. Muller.” and so forth. So ok, I acknowledge your point of view (even if I don’t agree with it all), but when you start talking about suffering enough, who might I ask, determines that? You? Someone else? Who? What is “enough”? Being fired or being jailed or something worse? Who has the authority to determine punishment? The rule of the street (aka blogs!)? I’m sorry, but this type of discussion is the slippery slope to vigilantism.
Donkeygod said what I may not have properly afforded.
No longer was it about why X is interesting, but now all about X is good for.
Ahead of time!
Does NikFromNYC ever make any sense?
NikFromNYC says:
July 3, 2011 at 3:42 am
Cool hat…
Love strangers, for fools be family.
To Dr.Dave and others,
One small correction. UVa did not release Dr.Pat Michael’s mails to Greenpeace. They named a price for the release and were willing to release the data. If I remember correct the amount asked by them was USD 4000/- or something close to that amount. Greenpeace wanted the mails for free and did not pay the amount. So the mails were not released. But the fact is very well documented that they had no qualms about wanting to release Dr.Pat Michael’s e-mails to Greenpeace without one single protest of academic freedom or confidentiality or any other such dishonest excuses they are giving in the case of Mann. If Greenpeace had paid up those mails would have been sent to Greenpeace immediately as UVa had agreed to release them if they were paid. These are the exact facts.
I’m stating this clearly so as to preclude the chance of the two prominent water carriers and apologists for Mann and the team who normally will pop down here and point out to that part of the story alone and act as if UVa were clean and everyone here was wrong. These shameless apologists are full time out to obfuscate, divert and find any egregious excuse to defend the behaviour of Mann, the Team and any institutions associated with them and their dishonest behaviour.
Now that Dr. Muller is a star….
…he feels compelled to speak out and give his opinion
That is usually their undoing……….
Muller and his BEST project is a front for a geo-engineering company that probably wants to partake in the CO2 tax feeding frenzy. He’s got a job to do.
http://jer-skepticscorner.blogspot.com/2011/04/best-novim-and-other-solution.html
This is Muller’s own company:
http://www.mullerandassociates.com/index.php
From the Old Virginia Watchdod: “ALEXANDRIA — A Prince William County judge says the University of Virginia must release emails sent by climate change scientist Michael Mann, drawing cheers from transparency advocates and protest from academics — including Mann’s chief rival.”
I didn’t catch any mention of an appeal from U of V. If Mann’s emails are still fully intact, and if they reveal significant misconduct, I would expect an appeal of this lower court’s ruling.
nick from NYC Said
O.K. I read half of it. Such verbiage.
Blah blah blah.
That you feel compelled to pass a comment of such nonsense, of an article that you admit to only half reading,speakes volumes.I suggest you read ALL of the article and then pass comment
maybe then you would not find yourself in the proverbial boat up the proverbial s*** creek without a paddle.
verbiage.indeed!
Well said Willis.
Spot on as usual Willis, and Laitmer, you have exressed my own thoughts very neatly.
As for Dr Muller, his vacillations are extreme and don’t seem rooted in any discernable conventional ethics: academics are not special people beyond the laws and morality of the wider society, no matter how often they plead that they are a special case.
Unlike most other “advances” in science, climatology has built an enormous confederation of scientists, bureaucrats, politicians, journalists, rent seekers, bankers and builders all of whom make or want to make mega bucks. Throwing this boondoggle out the window will cause immense damage to these people so they will fight. On the other hand the boondoggle has already cost the remaining 99% of the worlds population a great deal and promises to cost them more. It’s the latter who should feel agrieved and will as soon as they find out how they have been swindled. The blogosphere is the only message board that can reach the multitude. I haven’t used Facebook but maybe that is the next step to get the message out. The MSM don’t know that temperatures are static or falling so their readers don’t either. One thing, as others have said, is that once the structure starts to crack it will collapse at light speed. God forgive any politician who doesn’t change sides before the event because the voters sure as hell won’t.
Willis,
Personally, I think you have pushed this one too hard. The aim of the exercise is really to audit those findings that cause concern about the contribution of mankind to climate change, if any. Would it not be better if there was a set of questions designed to fill in the uncertainties, questions that were required to be answered in a verfiable way, rather than to take to the scattergun? I’m in no way questioning the need for a clear outcome, just the path to get there. It’s an efficiency thing, no big deal.
An inefficient method, with connotations of invasion of private space, is perhaps more likely to lead to a backlash like a change in the FOI laws. Gently, gently, catchee monkey.