Yes, Virginia, there is an FOIA

Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach

A judge has ordered the University of Virginia to release Professor Michael Mann’s emails pursuant to a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request. Mann is the climatologist who developed of the “Hockeystick” graph, which became the icon of the IPCC climate alarmism … until it was shown to be what Dr. Richard Muller of the Berkeley Earth Surface Temperature [BEST] project called “an artifact of bad mathematics”. Mann claimed that the ring widths of a few trees in the US Southwest somehow revealed the temperature history of the planet. Seems extremely doubtful. Mann also features in the Climategate scandal as (inter alia) the scientist who (at a minimum) forwarded a request to illegally destroy emails that showed Mann and other scientists conspiring to subvert the IPCC process.

Me, I’m opposed to going the legal route to solve scientific problems. I’d like to think that scientific disputes could be settled between scientists. I have a very deep aversion to what in my childhood was known as “calling the law on a man.” I grew up in the old tradition of the American West, which held (and for me still holds) that calling the law should be the last resort, when all other methods have failed.

However, in this case, all other methods have failed. Professor Mann is famous for saying that asking him to reveal his data is “intimidation”. Even a Congressional committee hardly dented him. And the climate science community is famous for never, ever, ever saying anything negative about another climate scientist. Bad form to speak ill of someone’s work or actions, don’cha know, they might return the favor. And given those two facts, I fear that the legal route is the only one open for those who want to find out what Mann did while on the Virginia taxpayers’ dime. However, taking this route immediately raised a veritable poolpah of claims that this is invading Mann’s privacy, or that it is treading on Mann’s intellectual rights, or inimical to his scientific freedom, or other claims along those lines.

For me, the issue in this case is very simple. It is generally spelled out in the Employee’s Manual of almost any large organization, institution, or business. It says that while you are working for your employer, your time is not your own. What you write is not your own. What you produce is not your own. What you patent is not your own. What you email is not your own. What you discover is not your own. None of what you produce on company time belongs to you.

It belongs to whoever is paying you. Period. It’s that way for the majority of employees of virtually every large concern, and has been for many years.

So all of the squawking about “privacy” and “intellectual rights” and “private emails” is nonsense. If Michael Mann wants his emails to be private, he should be self-employed. If he works for a business, those emails are the property of the business. And if he works for the taxpayer, if the taxpayer is funding his work, then nothing done on “company time”, none of his work and none of his emails and none of his data or his computer code, are “private” or “personal” or “his intellectual property”. They are, as the court ordered, subject to Freedom of Information Act requests.

Mann, however, has found a curious ally in this fight, as reported in the “Old Virginia Watchdog“, which says:

ATI [the organization that brought the suit] hailed the decision as a victory for transparency, but there are concerns in the academic world that such measures could threaten the scientific community.

The faculty at UVA issued a statement the day of the ruling to that effect. Mann also has found an unlikely ally in University of California Berkeley physicist Richard A. Muller, who famously denounced the hockey stick graph as “an artifact of poor mathematics.”

“We need some degree of privacy,” Muller said Thursday in an exclusive interview with Old Dominion Watchdog. “Scientists alone should decide how and what to publish in their results, looking at private files in a public setting is an unfair standard.”

Whoa, whoa, whoa, Dr. Muller. If this was Court TV, I’d expect the lawyer to say “Assumes facts not in evidence”.

Who said anything about whether or not scientists should “decide how and what to publish”? As far as I know, no one has told Mann, or threatened to tell him, what or when to publish. Dr. Muller is falsely casting the issue as one of “prior restraint on publication”. He is wrongly claiming that someone is trying to decide what Mann can publish, which is a very serious charge with First Amendment implications.

Where is the evidence for that, for prior restraint? The FOIA request is nothing of the sort. It is a request for emails from six years ago and older. How Dr. Muller got from a request for six-year-old emails, to his claim of prior restraint or conditions on publication, is difficult to understand without drawing perhaps unwarranted conclusions.

The article continues:

Muller said he believes that public oversight could interfere with the scientific process and sees the FOIA request as an “indirect attempt to shut down Mann’s scientific work.”

If Mann ever gets around to actually doing some scientific work, as opposed to churning out endless attempts to justify his “artifact of bad mathematics”, I suppose that someone might try to shut him down. But that’s just a fantasy about an improbable future.

More to the point, again Muller is spinning this as being about the future, when it is about the past. People want and have a right to know exactly what transpired between Mann and his partners in “crimate” (the intersection of climate and crime). It’s not about trying to shut down Mann’s future work. The Climategate emails pulled back the curtain on a host of very ugly, anti-scientific, and possibly criminal actions. Mann was shown to be up to his neck in them, and the taxpayers have a right to know just what he did and didn’t do while they were paying his salary. Has nothing to do with an “indirect attempt” to do anything. We want to know what he did.

“I may disagree with his scientific analysis, but I object to him coming under public inquiry,” [Muller] said, invoking Voltaire.

Voltaire is famous for saying (but it seems never actually said)

I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

Voltaire didn’t mention public scrutiny, however. Nor did Voltaire mention trying to evade responsibility. Mann’s work is one of the cornerstones of the AGW movement, which aims to restructure the economy of the entire planet … and Dr. Muller doesn’t think that every aspect of Mann’s work that was paid for by the taxpayer should receive the closest scrutiny possible? Why is that?

I do not know why Muller doesn’t want people to look into Mann’s past, but he’s definitely concerned about it. Perhaps he is concerned that people might look into his own past actions, I don’t know. Maybe it’s just paranoia, the university variant of the fear of the MIB coming to spy on them. Whatever it is, it is important enough for Muller to invent a claim that the issue is prior restraint, which is very odd regarding a request for old emails. In any case, the article continues:

Muller said he is glad the emails came to light, but feels the “ends — snooping in on private conversations — do not justify the means.”

What is it with these guys and their idea of “it’s mine, mine, mine, you can’t see it!”. Those are NOT PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS, Dr. Muller. They are part of the work product of Dr. Mann’s paid employment. They are the property of the University of Virginia, they were paid for by the Virginia taxpayer, and (as the Court has ruled) they are subject to inspection by private citizens. Why is that so hard to grasp? Heck, I can paraphrase Voltaire myself, try this:

“I may disagree with Mann’s scientific analysis, but I will defend to the death the public’s right to see what he has done.”

The article goes on to say:

ATI’s request is separate from the investigation launched last year by Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli, who battled the university for similar documents in 2010 in the hopes of prosecuting Mann.

As I said above, I don’t like the legal route, particularly the Cuccinelli route. But the other so-called scientific safeguards have failed, leaving little option.

Muller stands by his rival even more stridently in that case.

“A public reprimand is unnecessary,” he said. “Their reputations in the science community have already suffered; that is the most appropriate punishment.”

That is patent nonsense. Mann is still feted and lauded, his papers are still accepted without the kind of suspicion appropriate to his past deceptions. Phil Jones is still churning along in his job. Trenberth is agitating to try to reverse the null hypothesis. The idea that the reputations of Mann and the other the Climategate conspirators have suffered is absolutely untrue.

But even if their reputations had suffered, Mann and the Climategaters are still leading the charge to impoverish the world and restructure the global economy, and Dr. Muller wants to make the claim that Mann should not face responsibility for his (perhaps criminal) actions because his reputation has supposedly suffered?

My goodness, a suffering reputation. Does it hurt a lot when that happens? Those university professors must be the real sensitive types. See, outside the ivy halls when someone does the things that Mann and the Climategate folks did, they can’t just whine “I’m an oppressed scientist and my reputation hurts already!” and expect to walk away scot free.

Beyond the ivory tower, people who deceive and subvert and collude end up hurting in more than their reputations. So I fear that Dr. Muller’s elitist claim, that the most appropriate punishment is to spank them across their academic reputations (and besides they’ve already been spanked enough), just reveals how truly distant the mainstream climate scientists are from the real world.

Mann and the other Climategate participants have never taken responsibility, much less apologized, for their actions. They have stage-managed the so-called “Investigations” so well that nothing at all was investigated. Yes, the investigation found nothing in Mann’s emails … because the investigators didn’t even look at the emails. In addition, not only did Mann never answer the important questions about the emails, he was never even asked about the emails. That’s not an investigation, that’s a joke.

And now Dr. Muller wants us to just forget about it and move on, because he thinks that the poor scientist babbies have suffered enough …

Suffered enough? They haven’t suffered at all, Dr. Muller. So far they have denied responsibility entirely. They have skated completely, to the applause of their co-conspirators and well-wishers, and go around proclaiming their innocence. And Dr. Muller, now you want to pat them on the head and say poor oppressed scientists, your reputations have suffered enough, go and sin no more?

I’m sorry, that’s not going to happen.

Given what we know, that Mann and others stand convicted by their own words for some actions spelled out in the Climategate emails, and that there is very strong circumstantial evidence of him and the others having done a variety of other unethical or perhaps illegal things, the reputations of Mann and the rest of the Climategate crowd have not suffered nearly enough. In this Climategate list I include any actual criminals, as well as the lesser malfeasants, corrupters, and data manipulators; those who looked the other way as others manipulated the IPCC results; those who aided and abetted them to do things like pack the peer review panels and intimidate editors; those who conducted sham “investigations” and covered up the egregious actions; and those who merely cheered them on in their dirty fight.

If this had happened in a business setting, where their loss in reputation would truly be commensurate with their actions, after the things that they have done few of the whole crew would be either employed or employable.

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DR
July 3, 2011 12:41 am

Who’s to say the university has the emails or hasn’t put them through the wash? How would anyone know?

John Peter
July 3, 2011 12:45 am

“jorgekafkazar says:
July 2, 2011 at 11:46 pm
I trust Dr. Muller as far as I can toss a live bull up the inside of a silo.”
I am afraid that despite Anthony Watts’s faith in Dr Muller and the Berkeley project, I would now tend to agree with the above statement. I don’t expect a truly independent time record of global surface temperatures from Berkeley now.

Kurt Myrmel, PhD
July 3, 2011 1:13 am

I teach at a community college in Florida and our email system automatically places the following disclosure on every single email. This is done because we have had requests from local news outlets which have resulted in uncovering illegal activity on campus. ALL of our emails are subject to public exposure.
Please Note:
Due to Florida’s very broad public records law, most written communications to or from College employees regarding College business are public records, available to the public and media upon request. Therefore, this e-mail communication may be subject to public disclosure.

eyesonu
July 3, 2011 1:27 am

Well said Willis!
This country (USA) could use someone like you for President!
I sincerely hope that when the AGW climate scam is finally ‘closed out’, that a Nobel prize or something on that order will be bestowed on poeple like yourself that have worked so diligently to bring light to this nonsense. I realize that a Nobel prize is now a joke, but it was once a great honor. I hope that will change in the future to become the honor it once was.

albertkallal
July 3, 2011 1:32 am

I hate to say, the more I hear some of the scientists Speak, I’m beginning to realize that when you get into simple intellectual issues in terms of integrity and conflicts of interest, these people are not that bright. It seems these people often have difficulty understanding basic philosophical ideas here that we simply asking for transparency.
The idea that a request for data constitutes personal data is just beyond ridiculous. Can you imagine somebody working on Wall Street saying that they don’t have to divulge their trading Portfolio and not be upheld a conflict of interests in regards to insider trading? Gosh, it’s even standard fare in any city council that any vote that affects any of the alderman then that person must step down for that vote.
In this case, it’s not even a conflict issue and we already know we paid for the data! It is a simple basic fact that we’re asking for things that the taxpayers have paid for!
The hypocrisy of these people is astounding! So you mean it’s OK for Greenpeace to request funding details of researchers for their witch hunts of big bad oil funding? Yet we are not to have the same? No sharing anymore?
Even more astounding from these liberal educated people is they always been the first to criticize the concept that some institution or group of people will hide in some secret library or book all this great information in an attempt to keep the public dumb and stupid.
Apparently their criticism of this concept of withholding information and keeping the public dumb and stupid does not apply to themselves does it? In fact, the issue is about keeping us in the dark as long as possible since we on to these snake oil salesman pretending they are scientists.

Blade
July 3, 2011 1:35 am

And the most creative strawman argument of the day goes to …

Scott Brim [July 2, 2011 at 11:46 pm] says:
“From a legal perspective, the only relevant question here is this — did he, or did he not, fulfill his obligations to the University per his written employment contract?”

Certainly not. What you describe (in that quote) is the standard applied by a current employer contemplating termination with cause, and that barn door closed a long time ago (this university was Mann’s *previous* homebase until 2005). Why even bring this up?
And besides being a strawman it is non-sensical. It’s like saying: “From a legal perspective, the only relevant question here is this — did he, or did he not, fulfill his obligations to …” about any random employee that might be a thief or jaywalker or (fill in the blank). Surely you realize it is possible to follow the terms of a “written employment contract” to the letter all the while violating subsequent grant applications or any variety of things not spelled out when you first get hired. I wonder if Spiro Agnew thought of that defense (‘but I fullfilled the explicit terms of the office of Vice-President.’), certainly Clinton did 🙂
What angers me is that under this type of thinking, the real employer (the *taxpayers*), have no recourse to seek or even expect accountability of *their* money whatsoever. They will simply have to trust that some minimal expectation on an employment contract has been met and then shut up about it. I’m sure that’s the way professional bureaucrats and celebrity scientists would like the world to work, and perhaps it has for some (cough, Hansen), but we’re in a new age now. Looming fiscal collapse of all the liberal progressive ruined Western societies means scrutiny ahead. Someone like Mann that has taken millions in grants and spent it publishing doomsayer political propaganda while making himself a celebrity should expect scrutiny.
If I were Mann and *if* I were innocent, I would be screaming it at the top of my lungs and releasing all the data ever collected, and (this is very telling) I would have drove right down to UVA and walked out with the emails and everything else immediately. What was he thinking? I mean we are hearing White House audio tapes with sensitive information from the JFK years, not to mention Nixon. Why would he think that UVA emails are special? Can someone answer that?

July 3, 2011 1:36 am

@latimer
“What is this lying bastard lying to me about today. And why?”
Hadn’t heard that from Paxman – Ill be employing that at every opportunity.

Pete H
July 3, 2011 1:36 am

It would appear that the “Team” has a new member!

stephen richards
July 3, 2011 1:40 am

Scott Brim says:
July 2, 2011 at 11:46 pm
Not exactly right. There are 2 contracts in force here, a bit like the EU. Each country in the EU has the right to make it’s own contract with it’s people but the EU contract with the country dominates. So it is with Virginia. Mann had a contract with the Uni and the Uni had a contract with the tax payers. The tawpayers’ contract dominates. Give us the emails please.

Mike Bromley the Kurd
July 3, 2011 1:45 am

gnomish says:
July 2, 2011 at 11:51 pm

Nudge!!

polistra
July 3, 2011 1:46 am

Willis is assuming the wrong kind of institution. Universities do in fact have ‘work for hire’ as the default. I’ve done quite a bit of research and software under those conditions, and had no problem in letting the university or the granting agency own the results.
Mann is working for a different kind of institution, where the relevant rule is not ‘work for hire’ but Omertà.

Me
July 3, 2011 1:57 am

[snip – invalid email address – a valid email address is required to post here ~ mod]

Pluck
July 3, 2011 1:59 am

Spot on, I regret to say. I wish it weren’t so.

stephen richards
July 3, 2011 2:06 am

dougsherman says:
July 2, 2011 at 11:56 pm
As much as you prefer the courts stay out of it, I’d prefer this blog stayed with science and factual accounting of these types of related stories (the FOIA request) as opposed to editorial ‘rants’. This is heavy on ‘rant’
Read the top line of this blog!! This is not specifically a science blog. Factual, it is and commentory , it is. I can’t speak for Ant but I feel that people on this blog have the right to rant having spent years fighting the corruption that is climate science, don’t you?. Yes I like the science/maths and Willis has done his fair share of that here but commentary or ranting as you have called it, is OK as well. I like Willis’ rants.

Jack
July 3, 2011 2:09 am

Muller is supporting Mann because he wants to protect his own University/govt paycheck.

KnR
July 3, 2011 2:10 am

The claims of privacy would sound more valid if it was not for the fact that the same place has been happy to pass other academics information to groups looking for it . How this is ‘different ‘ is a question none of concerned have yet answered .

Robert Christopher
July 3, 2011 2:12 am

Elyseum says, on July 2, 2011 at 11:29 pm “BTW we have not heard anything about Muller temp analysis. Probably because they have discovered hat it was all rigged.”
Weren’t we also going to get the data made available in an easy readable, standard format?
Gary Hladik says, on July 2, 2011 at 11:59 pm “Well said, Willis. “It’s not power that corrupts, but immunity” (I’ve seen that quote attributed to John W. Campbell).”
There is also: “Believe, Trust, then Verify.” (especially when other peoples’ money is concerned?)

David, UK
July 3, 2011 2:13 am

Me, I’m opposed to going the legal route to solve scientific problems.
I agree, and I remember you saying something similar on previous occasions. But respectfully that’s not really the point Willis. Everyone knows that scientific problems are solved in the lab (and the enquiring brain) not in a the law courts. But the “problem” that we as sceptics have always faced has never been a scientific one. It has always been legal/political, and so this is where we are.
Now, if Mann is guilty of fraudulent science which has contributed to world poverty and loss of life and freedom, then I might just agree (especially now before I’ve had my first coffee of the day) with your principle that “the law should be a last resort,” and simply hang the bastard from the nearest tree.

Brian H
July 3, 2011 2:16 am

Edit question:
Wotsa “poolpah”? Neither I nor the Web ‘ave ‘eard of it.
I have vague associations with some sf novel’s neologisms, but nothing is surfacing at the moment.
_________
The historic walk from protecting academics from arbitrary interference by politicians to blanket immunity from showing what they’ve done with and for the public moneys they spend and live on has gone much further than most of us imagined. The desire and need to protect research resources from external manipulation has degenerated into group and individual avarice.
That it is being leveraged into a grab for control of the globe’s economy and finances is (paradoxically but fortunately) probably the bridge too far. Time and past time for a MAJOR pushback. Part of the problem is that the pols responsible for such pushing back are substantially pre-compromised, and share in the power grab.

Paul Nottingham
July 3, 2011 2:19 am

Meanwhile in the UK
Jonathan Jones, physics professor at Oxford University and self-confessed “climate change agnostic”, used freedom of information law to demand the data that is the life’s work of the head of the University of East Anglia’s Climatic Research Unit, Phil Jones. UEA resisted the requests to disclose the data, but this week it was compelled to do so.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/jul/01/climate-data-uea?intcmp=122

John Marshall
July 3, 2011 2:22 am

If research by any scientist produces such far reaching effects as Mann’s then he/she must reveal all data and method.
The IPCC and many governments have taken Mann’s conclusions on trust and proceeded to divert their peoples energies down vastly different routes at enormous cost. All to no effect, apart from impoverishment. Mann has to stand and justify his research, method and conclusions. He cannot hide from FOIA enquiries.

Dave Springer
July 3, 2011 2:23 am

@Willis
“So all of the squawking about “privacy” and “intellectual rights” and “private emails” is nonsense. If Michael Mann wants his emails to be private, he should be self-employed.”
You’re being extreme, Willis. If you take a crap on company time that doesn’t mean the company owns your ass. If you have a personal cell phone in your pocket the company doesn’t have a right to it or anything on it whether on or off “company time”. Speaking of company time, what exactly IS company time for salaried employees with no fixed hours?
If Mann wanted the emails to be private he should have used some other email address like arsehat@hotmail.com instead of inmate@state_pen.edu blowhard@penn_state.edu which is owned by his employer.

DaveF
July 3, 2011 2:32 am

I think maybe Dr Muller might have been afraid that people will be able to access a scientist’s research before it is complete. After all, Mr Watts was unhappy that part of his Surface Stations paper appeared online before he had finished it, so I can understand the need for privacy. Once the paper has been published, however, all relevant data, including emails, should be available on request, especially when FOIA applies.
Scott Brim 11:46:
FOIA legislation precludes anyone making a contract which exempts someone from it.

KenB
July 3, 2011 2:41 am

I still think it will take a legal challenge in a a court of law to pin down the worst of the Piltdown Manns legacy and reform Climatology back into the realms of science and the scientific method.
Except judging from what is being churned out by Australian Academics it makes that hope, seem to be a far off dream. As far as mann’s emails they would all applaud if he was able to sanitize the lot to remove anything remotely incriminating, then demand the establishment climate elite will fall into line in protecting his rightful protest. Still we could hope that an insider might still get a pang of conscience and reveal all…one day.!

Rhoda Ramirez
July 3, 2011 2:45 am

I used to work for DoD and our IT man used to tell us not to put anything into an e-mail that we would want read out loud in court.
Frankly, any arguments against releasing Mann’s e-mails were voided when the University gave GreenPeace the e-mails from that other scientist.