I guess they won’t need any more “Green Economic Conferences” there the like this:
Where they say:
“Venice is particularly hard hit by climate change and this conference is an attempt to provide solutions that various parts of Italy are experiencing under global environmental change.”
Venice-geconference-michelemarch31 (source here)
From CSIRO:
Venice to suffer fewer storm surges
Reference: 11/55
A team of international scientists led by CSIRO’s Dr Alberto Troccoli studied atmospheric circulation in the Mediterranean region to assess climate impacts through changes in storm surge frequency in Venice – a World Heritage-listed city built on 117 small islands and considered vulnerable to high sea levels (locally known as Acqua Alta).
Dr Troccoli said predictions of such extreme and small-scale events are exceedingly challenging, even for relatively short time horizons.
“The survival of Venice and its lagoon is seriously questioned under the International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) global sea level rise scenarios and the results of this study, published in the journal Climatic Change, emphasise the need for location-by-location studies to determine coastal flooding impacts.
“While some assessment of the vulnerability of Venice to extreme high-water events have been carried out in the past, possible future changes in storm surge occurrences critical to flooding events remain largely unexplored. It is important to understand how these events will evolve since a moderate to strong storm surge event is required to cause serious flooding.
“We found that the frequency of extreme storm surge events affecting Venice is projected to decrease by about 30 per cent by the end of the 21st century which would leave the pattern of flooding largely unaltered under 21st Century climate simulations,” Dr Troccoli said.
“Our paper presents an alternative analysis for storm surges and we believe our findings could have important implications on the way future storm surge and high tide events are interpreted”– Dr Alberto Troccoli, CSIRO
The research team – from CSIRO, the University of Padova and the University of Reading – used data from observations of storms, analysis of atmospheric and surface conditions, and climate scenario simulations. Storm surges in the northern part of the Adriatic Sea are driven by the passage of deep low-pressure systems, which cause sea level pressure gradients and strong Sirocco (South-Easterly) winds along the Adriatic Sea. These forces combine to push water into the northern end of the basin where Venice is located.
Dr Troccoli said an implication of the finding is that alterations in extreme tidal levels under climate change must be considered on a location-by-location basis in spite of the projected increase in global sea level.
“Thus the projected change in the storm surge contribution, combined with the projected change of mean water levels in the Adriatic Sea indicates that tidal flooding events might not be exacerbated over the current century, with potential beneficial consequences for the conservation of the city.
“Our paper presents an alternative analysis for storm surges and we believe our findings could have important implications on the way future storm surge and high tide events are interpreted,” he said.
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Ken Mueller says:
June 10, 2011 at 4:16 pm
That is a very nice looking blonde in “a little black dress” in the foreground.
Anthony is going for T&A. (my apologies to Anthony, it was just to easy!)
Reduced storm surges are consistent with increased droughts that were projected for the Mediterranean region, so maybe it is not a surprise.
Oh please, just stop the modelling insanity!
In general one supposes that river deltas form where rivers meet the ocean. The deposited sediment one presumes to be in balance with geological subsidence. Venice is essentially doomed.
However this is what makes Venice so romantic. It has been doomed for centuries, since the route round the cape of good hope was discovered. Ever since, the paint has been fading on what was the richest city in Europe, if not the world.
Somehow, I do not think a millimeter per year of supposedly anthropogenic sea level rise will finish it off.
Nah! … its all the extra super size people tromping around the place.
Whew, that must be a great relief for John Cleese that there won’t be MORE of THOSE EFFING GONDOLAS!
This strike at CSRIO is a good one 🙂
My professor once said, when a strike at my university was impeding:
“You know, during strike one does opposite to what he used to do in normal time. Therefore I expect you to work extremely hard and dilligently during the income”.
They got the rise (CSRIO) – maybe someone was afreid that they woud do just this, eg, have a hard look at the real data 😉
Venice, without doubt, is one of the most beautiful cities on Earth.
For a fraction of the money being shovelled into the cAGW scam it could be preserved for future generations to enjoy and marvel at.
It is notable that, yet again (in fact almost continuously), hoardes of Hyperthermalist doom mongers are flying to some of the most attractive tourist destinations in the World, to stay in luxury hotels at the taxpayer’s expense and pontificate about how the plebs should be denied the pleasure of a holiday with their families. And impoverished and denied of a job, of course.
Chilean:
http://oi53.tinypic.com/14jq05c.jpg
http://oi52.tinypic.com/vyr3bm.jpg
Venetian:
http://oi54.tinypic.com/24cb4tg.jpg
http://oi53.tinypic.com/2nltsgh.jpg
mike sphar says:June 10, 2011 at 4:36 pm
Must be tough on the rat population.
I think the rats have already abandoned ship.
The building to the right in both photos is the Doge’s Palace, which usually get missed on the quicky tours. It’s well worth giving up a gondola ride to go through and see what it was like when Venice ruled the world. The Bridge of Sighs and Casanova’s prison cell are attached.
The British artist JMW Turner loved Venice for the quality of light, filtered as it is through a sea mist. You can see the same thing today as in his paintings. Lovely city, doomed, but it’s been doomed for a millennium.
There have been proposals to put tide gates at the lagoon entrances to stop the flooding, but that creates a problem. Venice has no sewage system. It has always depended on the tides to flush out the lagoon, so tide gates would definitely change the “atmosphere” around town.
I thought they had halted the accelerated sinking of venice by stopping gas extraction in the lagoon….
Even though there is substantial evidence Venice is SINKING, due to various factors, and has been for a significant amount of time, it will be used by the alarmists as the pin-up poster girl of AGW and proof sea levels are rising. *sigh*
Venice is doomed!!!
News just in today…………….rate of sea level rise still flat.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/06/11/new-sea-level-dataset-now-available-still-flat
Every Geologist will tell you that with climate change comes an environmental change. 4.6 Ba of history can’t be wrong.
Climate change is natural and unstoppable. (Politicians please note).
As others have mentioned Venice has been subsiding. Parts of it were from re-claimed marshland which lies below sea level!
http://www.agu.org/pubs/crossref/2005…/2005EO230001.shtml
http://dx.doi.org/10.1016/j.jmarsys.2004.05.021
Pat Frank says: June 10, 2011 at 5:58 pm
So, Geoff, can you let us know whether this story upsets you, or not? 🙂
Pat, Just take it as a small clearing of the throat before the solo tenor starts con brio into “Largo al factotum” (Figaro, Figaro), or similar.
“Green” economics is the new Red(d): http://www.greeneconomics.org.uk/
“The world is hotting up and we have wipped out many other species who might have been able to help us! Over consumption and over use of the worlds resources is now in urgent need of correction. This means a complete rethink of how we use the planet our home our house hold and also the relationship of dominion and mastery- a complete false dawn. We are part of the earth and we risk everything if we forget that, and dont do our household maintenance and housework. Economics is part of that- but only a subset.
Economics is going to have to be completely re written. We think that life style changes will be the only answer- doing Different Things- Differently! – Rather than messing about with redefining or measurement or trading or technical fixes any other kind of fudging – the world has changed- and we need to keep up with it- that means we have to change what we do and how we do it !”
Ah, yes, “lifestyle changes”. As imposed by Big Green Brother. When they say “we”, of course they mean excluding them, the Chosen Ones. They will still be free to run around the world to have expensive
vacationsconferences deciding who gets punished for their evil Carbon sins, and who benefits. Gulags with free tattooing for those who don’t go along with their program, of course.Warning: have barf bag ready before reading their 10 “Key Values” below.
10 Key Values of Green Economics
1. To provision for the needs all people everywhere, other species, nature, the planet and its systems, all as beneficiaries of economics transactions, not as one-off inputs.
2. To reinforce an underpinning of social and environmental justice, tolerance and no prejudice and creating quality of life for everyone, including current and all future generations, and regardless of age.
3. To ensure the recognition and respect of other species’ rights. To end the current mass extinction of species and ensure the survival of Earth’s biodiversity.
4. To create an economic system which advances non-violence and the inclusion of all people everywhere, regardless of special needs or special ability. To ensure that all nations have equal access to power and resources on a finite planet, and that local people to have control over their own destiny and resources. To eradicate poverty, increase life expectancy, human welfare and real well-being in the least developed countries.
5. To guarantee gender equity in all activities, educating, respecting, empowering women and minorities, and ensuring that all people valued and respected equally.
6. To end high mass consumption and the current overshoot of Earth’s resources, returning human civilisation to the comfortable bounds of nature in its original climatic conditions. To choose lifestyle change over techno-fixes and eco-technology, lowering individual carbon usage, living lightly on the earth.
7. Changing how economics is done: from being an abstract mathematical exercise to embracing the real world we all live in, recognizing that we are all concerned as stakeholders.
8. Climate change prevention, adaptation, mitigation. Protecting the most vulnerable from risk. Ensuring the future of small island states. Quickly reducing carbon per capita globally to 2 tonnes in the next 5 years and zero soon after. Limiting and reversing climate change. Moving to renewable energy sources.
9. Future-proofing economics to increase its suitability for the 21st century, solving the current economic downturn and widespread uncertainty. Creating and nurturing an economy based on sharing, rather than greed and profit.
10. Completely reshaping and reforming economics to do all the above.
Bruce Cobb says:
June 11, 2011 at 5:03 am
I see from there website they like to jet around the world to enviro-conferences. Doesn’t sit well with their sixth commandment does it?
Have a look at Eat a cow to save the planet and Stop Stop signs concerning some some of the greenocrites false ramblings!
Bruce Cobb
Thank you for the chuckle from the new 10 Commandments of the Green whackos. Particularly queer when one reads “To guarantee gender equity in all activities” when many people are unwilling or unable to state their gender. I guess that means their Nanny State has to make laws to reveal your gender, replete with new definitions and an army of enforcers who are counted as “new jobs created”.
As a lesbian trapped in a male body, I can sympathize. And Mrs Smokey is
tri-sexual. She’ll try anything!
“Bruce Cobb says:
June 11, 2011 at 5:03 am
“Green” economics is the new Red(d): http://www.greeneconomics.org.uk/
“The world is hotting up and we have wipped out many other species who might have been able to help us!”
These people are fseriously dangerous. Anyone with enough free time to boil an egg can learn that over 90% of all species that ever existed on this 3rd rock from the sun went extinct long before ugly bags of mostly water evolved into humans.
Couldn’t be that they built it on a swamp, I suppose? No? Didn’t think so…
@Ken Mueller says:
June 10, 2011 at 4:16 pm: My wife says it makes her butt look big.