Creating an AGW Quotation Collection

This seems like a good idea, and I’ll be happy to dedicate a page to it if readers help fill in.

WUWT reader Charles Harrison  uses the new submit story feature (see header menu) to ask this:

I would like to have a personal collection of AGW quotations to use in presentations, etc. Things like no more snow, the latest proposal to tattoo skeptics, the need to bring about the end of industrial civilization, etc.

I think this would be fun and useful and maybe Anthony could make a spot for it on the reference page. If nothing else, I would like to be sure I have correct attributions when I use these quotes.

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Les Johnson
June 7, 2011 10:24 am

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5931596/
“These are natural things,”” Gray stressed. “”Greenland ice-core data show that North Atlantic temperatures swing back and forth on these 30- to 40-year time scales. The people who say humans are causing this hurricane activity — typically they’re the ones who don’t know anything about tropical cyclones.”

Les Johnson
June 7, 2011 10:25 am

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn6816
On the subject of what happens after Kyoto … developing countries led by India, China and Brazil insisted on inserting a clause stating that the talks are “not intended to lead to a process for further commitments by developing countries”. Brazil’s delegation head Everton Vieira Vargas said: “We are not prepared to discuss reductions in emissions.”

Les Johnson
June 7, 2011 10:29 am

http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/prometheus/archives/science_policy_general/000318chris_landsea_leaves.html

From C. Landsea’s letter : “”All previous and current research in the area of hurricane variability has shown no reliable, long-term trend up in the frequency or intensity of tropical cyclones, either in the Atlantic or any other basin. The IPCC assessments in 1995 and 2001 also concluded that there was no global warming signal found in the hurricane record.
Moreover, the evidence is quite strong and supported by the most recent credible studies that any impact in the future from global warming upon hurricane will likely be quite small. The latest results from the Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory (Knutson and Tuleya, Journal of Climate, 2004) suggest that by around 2080, hurricanes may have winds and rainfall about 5% more intense than today. It has been proposed that even this tiny change may be an exaggeration as to what may happen by the end of the 21st Century (Michaels, Knappenberger, and Landsea, Journal of Climate, 2005, submitted).

Les Johnson
June 7, 2011 10:35 am

Source Unknown, needs to be checked:

This all lead Dr. James Hansen, a prominent greenhouse scientist with NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies, to write in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences
“The forcings that drive long-term climate change are not known with an accuracy sufficient to define future climate changes.”

Les Johnson
June 7, 2011 10:36 am

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=d0235a70-33f1-45b3-803b-829b1b3542ef&p=2
Hurricane specialist Tad Murty, former senior research scientist Department of Fisheries and Oceans and now adjust professor of Earth sciences at U of O, points out, “In all other six ocean basins where tropical cyclones occur, there is either a flat or a downward trend.” Murty lists 1900, 1926 and 1935 as the years in which the most intense hurricanes were recorded in the United States. In fact, Max Mayfield, director of the National Hurricane Center in Miami, has stated that global warming has nothing to do with the recent increase in hurricane frequency in the North Atlantic. Murty concludes, “The feeling among many meteorologists is that it has to do with the North Atlantic oscillation, which is now in the positive phase and will continue for another decade or so.”

June 7, 2011 10:53 am

Revolting stuff, but somebody has to do it.

NikFromNYC
June 7, 2011 10:57 am

In 1989 cold fusion was announced to the world. Whoopie!, right. Not so fast, kids: the Los Angelos Times carried an article titled “Fear of Fusion: What If It Works?” (April 19, 1989, A5), now at http://articles.latimes.com/1989-04-19/news/vw-2042_1_fusion-uc-berkeley-inexhaustible:
“It’s like giving a machine gun to an idiot child.” – Paul Ehrlich
“Clean-burning, non-polluting, hydrogen-using bulldozers still could knock down trees or build housing developments on farmland.” – Paul Ciotti
“”It gives some people the false hope that there are no limits to growth and no environmental price to be paid by having unlimited sources of energy.” – Jeremy Rifkin
“Many people assume that cheaper, more abundant energy will mean that mankind is better off, but there is no evidence for that.” – Laura Nader

RB
June 7, 2011 11:01 am

That intellectual collosus Gordon Brown stating that those who don’t follow the “consensus” were “Flat Earthers”.
Has always made me laugh like a drain, that one.

tolo4zero
June 7, 2011 11:03 am

And don’t forget Heidi Cullen’s comment…
“And the urgency is that the longer we wait, the further down the pipeline climate travels and works its way into weather, and once it’s in the weather, it’s there for good.”

LeeHarvey
June 7, 2011 11:04 am

I nominate this gem from Dr. Jimmy (or is it Mr. Jim?):
“Well, there will be more traffic… The West Side Highway [which runs along the Hudson River] will be under water. And there will be tape across the windows across the street because of high winds. And the same birds won’t be there. The trees in the median strip will change… There will be more police cars… you know what happens to crime when the heat goes up.”

Les Johnson
June 7, 2011 11:06 am

Hansen predicted in the late 80s, that :
“The West Side Highway [which runs along the Hudson River] will be under water. And there will be tape across the windows across the street because of high winds. And the same birds won’t be there. The trees in the median strip will change.” Then he said, “There will be more police cars.” Why? “Well, you know what happens to crime when the heat goes up.”
http://dir.salon.com/books/int/2001/10/23/weather/index.html

Les Johnson
June 7, 2011 11:08 am

http://nl.newsbank.com/nl-search/we/Archives?p_product=SJ&s_site=mercurynews&p_multi=SJ&p_theme=realcities&p_action=search&p_maxdocs=200&p_topdoc=1&p_text_direct-0=0EB7304FF9A84273&p_field_direct-0=document_id&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&s_trackval=GooglePM
San Jose Mercury News (CA) – June 30, 1989
“A senior environmental official at the United Nations, Noel Brown, says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the earth by rising sea levels if global warming is not reversed by the year 2000……… He said governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect… “

Les Johnson
June 7, 2011 11:09 am

For his part, Pielke returned to Colorado and set up a random number generator to rank RMS’ 39 climate models from 2008 — akin to blindly throwing darts to choose the best model.
The outcome nearly matched the scientists’ consensus.
“So with apologies to my colleagues,” he wrote in his science policy blog, “we seem to be of no greater intellectual value to RMS than a bunch of monkeys.”

http://rogerpielkejr.blogspot.com/2010/11/82-billion-prediction.html

Les Johnson
June 7, 2011 11:10 am

From the estimable Flannery, predictor of never ending drought, or, as he calls it, the new climate.
But by far the most dangerous trend is the decline in the flow of Australian rivers: it has fallen by around 70 per cent in recent decades, so dams no longer fill even when it does rain. Growing evidence suggests that hotter soils, caused directly by global warming, have increased evaporation and transpiration and that the change is permanent. I believe the first thing Australians need to do is to stop worrying about “the drought” – which is transient – and start talking about the new climate.
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg19426084.400-editorial-australia–not-such-a-lucky-country.html
http://www.science.org.au/nova/newscientist/105ns_001.htm

Les Johnson
June 7, 2011 11:11 am

Unskilled and unaware of it: How difficulties in recognizing one’s own incompetence lead to inflated self-assessments.
Kruger, Justin; Dunning, David
Current issue feed
Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, Vol 77(6), Dec 1999, 1121-1134.
People tend to hold overly favorable views of their abilities in many social and intellectual domains. The authors suggest that this overestimation occurs, in part, because people who are unskilled in these domains suffer a dual burden: Not only do these people reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs them of the metacognitive ability to realize it. Across 4 studies, the authors found that participants scoring in the bottom quartile on tests of humor, grammar, and logic grossly overestimated their test performance and ability. Although their test scores put them in the 12th percentile, they estimated themselves to be in the 62nd. Several analyses linked this miscalibration to deficits in metacognitive skill, or the capacity to distinguish accuracy from error. Paradoxically, improving the skills of the participants, and thus increasing their metacognitive competence, helped them recognize the limitations of their abilities. (PsycINFO Database Record (c) 2010 APA, all rights reserved)
http://psycnet.apa.org/?&fa=main.doiLanding&doi=10.1037/0022-3514.77.6.1121

Les Johnson
June 7, 2011 11:12 am

A reduction in Antarctic sea ice volume of about 25-45% is predicted for a doubling of CO2, with sea ice retreating fairly evenly around the continent (Gordon and O’Farrell, 1997). This CSIRO model assumes a 1% yr-1 compounding increase of CO2, corresponding to global warming of 2.1°C. Using a similar but modified model that has a higher albedo feedback and predicted global warming of 2.8°C, Wu et al. (1999) calculate a reduction in mean sea-ice extent of nearly two degrees of latitude, corresponding to 45% of sea-ice volume. These estimates do not represent the equilibrium state, and sea ice can be expected to shrink further, even if GHGs are stabilized.
Climate Change 2001
Working Group 2
16.2.4.2. Sea Ice in the Southern Ocean
http://www.ipcc.ch/ipccreports/tar/wg2/606.htm#16242
The Antarctic wintertime ice extent increased…”at a rate of 0.6% per decade” from 1979 to 2006, says Donald Cavalieri, a senior research scientist at the NASA Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland.
At 19 million square kilometres in Aug 2008, it is still slightly below records from the early 1970s of 20 million, he says. Since 1979 however, the average year-round ice extent has risen too.

Les Johnson
June 7, 2011 11:12 am

From Dr Emanuel (who published a paper in 2005 suggesting increased storms due to GW):”The models are telling us something quite different from what nature seems to be telling us. There are various interpretations possible, e.g. a) The big increase in hurricane power over the past 30 years or so may not have much to do with global warming, or b) The models are simply not faithfully reproducing what nature is doing. Hard to know which to believe yet.”
http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/04/12/hurricane-expert-reassesses-climate-link/

Les Johnson
June 7, 2011 11:14 am

Dion, as environment minister, called the oil sands a “a tremendous blessing for Canada.”
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/12/08/f-dion-bio.html

Coldish
June 7, 2011 11:14 am

“Pharoah and Joseph had
7 YEARS
So have we
2016”
Sir John Houghton, co-chair of IPCC WG1, 2001.
Source: http://www.jri.org.uk/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/JRI_18_Joseph.pdf (2009)

Les Johnson
June 7, 2011 11:15 am

The dangers of modeling. This group, tongue in cheek, modeled Bigfoot’s future habitats in a warming climate. Basically, GIGO.
“We in the modelling community need to be a bit more humble about how precise our predictions are, and acknowledge the errors of estimates, which are huge, more than we do,” says Rahbek. “It’s just damn hard to predict the future.”
Unlikely as it sounds, Lozier’s paper scooped work by another group. “We were trying to do the same thing for the yeti,” says ecologist Carsten Rahbek of the University of Copenhagen. Like Lozier, he wanted to show that models could turn dubious data into plausible-looking predictions.
References
1. Lozier, J. D., Aniello, P. & Hickerson, M. J. J. Biogeogr. published online. doi:10.1111/j.1365-2699.2009.02152.x (2009).
http://www.nature.com/news/2009/090707/full/news.2009.641.html?s=news_rss

Les Johnson
June 7, 2011 11:16 am

Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum was caused by something other than CO2.
The conclusion, Dickens said, is that something other than carbon dioxide caused much of the heating during the PETM.
“In a nutshell, theoretical models cannot explain what we observe in the geological record,” said oceanographer Gerald Dickens, a co-author of the study and professor of Earth science at Rice University. “There appears to be something fundamentally wrong with the way temperature and carbon are linked in climate models.”

http://www.media.rice.edu/media/NewsBot.asp?MODE=VIEW&ID=12794&SnID=2075327496

Les Johnson
June 7, 2011 11:16 am


“Hypocrisy has a name, or rather two: Quebec and Ontario,” wrote columnist Lysiane Gagnon on Thursday in Montreal’s La Presse.
“In short, it’s thanks to the oilsands that allows Quebec to live beyond its means and offer luxury services such as $7(-a-day) daycares and universities that are practically free.”
Historically, Alberta has always paid more per capita into the equalization program than any other province, Mansell said.
On the flip side, Quebec has been the largest net beneficiary of the program, he added.
In 2006, Mansell said he calculated that Quebec was a net beneficiary of $217.1 billion (in 2004 dollars) from the equalization program between 1961 to 2002. That has represented $767 per year for every Quebec man, woman and child, he said.
Over the same period, Alberta paid out $243.6 billion and Ontario paid $314.5 billion, he said. That has cost $2,510 for every Alberta resident every year, and $758 for every Ontarian.
He said that Alberta’s oil and gas industry has also created spin-off jobs in manufacturing and engineering in Quebec and Ontario.
“The comparative advantage, which we clearly have in Canada, is resources,” Mansell said.
“Whether we like it or not, that has been the driving force in our economy.”
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20091217/Oil_Cash_091217/20091217?hub=QPeriod

Colin in Mission BC
June 7, 2011 11:19 am

I’m paraphrasing from memory, but in an interview a few months ago, Michael Mann said, “I never intended for the hockey stick graph to become the defining icon of global warming science.”
Or something to that effect.

Marlow Metcalf
June 7, 2011 11:26 am

List of 800 links of things caused by global warming.
http://www.numberwatch.co.uk/warmlist.htm