Guest Post by Barry Woods
It is my opinion that the BBC in broadcasting the BBC 2 Horizon program ‘Science Under Attack’ did not treat the general public in the UK and at least one of the interviewees with the ‘good faith’ that they should be able to expect from the BBC. After the program aired, I contacted James Delingpole, who was one of the sceptics portrayed in the program and he told me how he was approached to participate by the BBC.
“I am making a film for BBC’s Horizon on public trust in science and I was hoping you may be able to help.” – BBC Producer
However, the programs underlying message to the general public came across to me as that climate science was under attack by climate sceptics or deniers of science who are on a par with those that deny Aids, vaccines and extreme anti GM environmentalist activists.
Yet, in discussion with a NASA scientist, the presenter Professor Paul Nurse apparently makes a gross factual error informing the viewer that annual man-made CO2 emissions are;
seven times
that of the total natural annual emissions. This raised a number of eyebrows and is now subject to some discussion amongst the blogs, including at Bishop Hill.
That such an apparent major error was presented to the public as fact, in the BBC’s flagship science program, should I think raise questions with respect to the handling of all the issues within the program.
Paul Nurse: The scientific consensus is, of course, that the changes we are seeing are caused by emissions of carbon into the atmosphere. But given the complexity of the climate system, how can we be sure that humans are to blame for this?
Bob Bindschadler[NASA]: We know how much fossil fuel we take out of the ground. We know how much we sell. We know how much we burn. And that is a huge amount of carbon dioxide. It’s about seven gigatons per year right now.
Paul Nurse: And is that enough to explain…?
Bob Bindschadler: Natural causes only can produce – yes, there are volcanoes popping off and things like that, and coming out of the ocean, only about one gigaton per year. So there’s just no question that human activity is producing a massively large proportion of the carbon dioxide.
Paul Nurse: So seven times more.
Bob Bindschadler: That’s right.
Paul Nurse: I mean, why do some people say that isn’t the case?
(from a transcript of BBC Horizon – Science Under Attack)
Following the program I contacted James Delingpole and he agreed to a telephone interview about the program. We had a few telephone conversations about the program and he sent me a copy of the email from a BBC producer at the BBC inviting James to participate in the program. (my bold)
“The tone of the film is very questioning but with no preconceptions. On the issue of who is to blame no-one will be left unscathed, whether that is science sceptics, the media or most particularly scientists themselves. Sir Paul is very aware of the culpability of scientists and that will come across in the film. They will not be portrayed as white coated magicians who should be left to work in their ivory towers – their failings will be dealt with in detail.”
– BBC Producer to James Delingpole
The contents of that invitation put the presentation of his interview in the program into a different context. In my opinion it demonstrates bad faith on the part of the BBC in failing to present to the public the details of the sceptical argument about climategate and ‘climate science’ yet allowing those involved to present their defence without serious challenge.
The premise will be ‘This is a turbulent time for science. After the debacles of Climate-gate, GM products and MMR, I want to explore why science isn’t trusted and whether we as scientists are largely to blame’. By looking at these different areas he will dig into the difficult questions of how to deal with uncertainty in science, the communication of this uncertainty, and the difficulties when science meets policy and the media.
– BBC Producer to James Delingpole
The BBC is the UK’s national public service broadcaster (funded by a per household TV Licence) and by its Charter it has a duty to its audience to be fair and balanced.
The Horizon program is the BBC’s flagship science program, so when it uses the weight of the BBC’s authority alongside, Sir Professor Paul Nurse, a Nobel Laureate and the new President of the Royal Society it has a clear responsibilty to the public to fairly present the detail of the sceptical views climate science and the issues around the climategate emails.
My interview with James Delingpole
James actually received a lot of criticism from sceptics for somehow ‘failing’ to get across the sceptical arguments in this program. When I spoke to him his frustration was obvious as he said he had spent three hours talking to Professor Paul Nurse about the detail of the climategate emails, the failings of the inquiries and the many and varied sceptical arguments with respect to man-made climate change.
James said he had explained in detail why sceptics describe the inquiries as whitewashes, this included the vested interest of the participants, the fact that no one actually asked Jones about whether he had deleted emails, the failure of scientists to provide data to critics and journals (as scientific process would expect) the importance of hiding the decline in proxies, the fact that scientist had become advocates for policy.
Yet in the program all that comes across is a fade to voice over where Professor Paul Nurse states that James believes the inquiries were whitewashes. Why not allow the public to consider some of these reason from James Delingpole
Why did Professor Phil Jones say to delete emails? Why did he ask colleagues to delete emails relating to the IPCC reports. And most importantly of all. Why did Phil Jones feel the need to ask colleagues to delete these emails?
Those question surely support James Delingpole’s view that the peer-review process and the IPCC processes had been corrupted.
Another question that has been often asked was, why did James trust the BBC?
To put the interview into context the BBC had received a number of complaints regarding both the BBC’s coverage of Copenhagen and the coverage of the climategate emails. The BBC had seemed genuinely surprised by this response from the public and had even launched a review of how science in the media handled subjects like climate science, vaccines and GM.
The invitation that James received from the BBC to be involved in this program appeared to be very much in this context.
“As an influential blogger on climate change, among other subjects, I’d really like Paul to meet you and chat to you about your views – how you see your role and that more generally the influence of the internet in changing the debate; your views on climate-gate and how that was handled by the media; the failings or otherwise of scientists in communicating the science.”
– BBC Producer to James Delingpole
James said that he had looked forward to this opportunity to discuss and present sceptical issues in the apparent spirit of the invitation.
The ‘trick’ and ‘hide the decline’
The BBC described the ‘trick’ and ‘hide the decline’ as at the crux of the climategate email scandal. Why would they not at least allow a sceptic to voice to the public the sceptical viewpoint on this issue.
Paul Nurse (voice over): Tree rings have been shown to be a good way of measuring ancient temperatures, and they’ve mostly matched instrumental measurements since the advent of thermometers.
However, after about 1960, some tree ring data stopped fitting real temperatures so well. The cause of this isn’t known. When Dr Jones was asked by the World Meteorological Organisation to prepare a graph of how temperatures had changed over the last 1000 years, he had to decide how to deal with this divergence between the datasets.
He decided to use the direct measurements of temperature change from thermometers and instruments rather than indirect data from the tree rings, to cover the period from 1960. It was this data splicing, and his e-mail referring to it as a “trick” that formed the crux of Climategate.
Phil Jones: The Organisation wanted a relatively simple diagram for their particular audience. What we started off doing was the three series, with the instrumental temperatures on the end, clearly differentiated from the tree ring series. But they thought that was too complicated to explain to their audience.
So what we did was just to add them on, and bring them up to the present. And as I say, this was a World Meteorological Organisation statement. It had hardly any coverage in the media at the time, and had virtually no coverage for the next ten years, until the release of the e-mails. (transcript)
The program was supposed to deal with the failure of the presentation of uncertainties regarding climate science, the criticism is that climate science has presented to politicians a narrative of ‘unprecedented’ temperature rise which ‘must be due to humans.
Yet the ‘complication’ that is not explained clearly to the public or politicians, is that temperature proxies declined when modern thermometers showed warming. Even the simplest of politicians could grasp that if the proxies decline when thermometers show warming it reduces their credibility of recording historic temperatures.
Yet somehow it is deemed to complicated, this is a prime example of scientist becoming advocates for policy and presenting the issues as certain when they are not. Remember this was the described purpose of the program.
An interesting response to ‘hide the decline’
James Delingpole wrote in his blog about how the mathematician Simon Singh, the best selling author of ‘Fermat’s Last Theorum’ had tweeted:
Sorry, but @JamesDelingpole deserves mockery ‘cos he has the arrogance to think he knows more of science than a Nobel Laureate
Simon Singh wrote a rebuttal in his own blog, yet in the the comments there arose an excellent rebuttal to the programs description of ‘hide the decline’ from a respected scientist Paul Dennis who is also at the University of East Anglia
Paul Dennis said…
Before I add anything further to the debate I should say that I’m an Isotope Geochemist and Head of the Stable Isotope and Noble Gas Laboratories in the School of Environmental Sciences at the University of East Anglia. I’ve also contributed to and published a large number of peer-reviewed scientific papers in the general field of palaoclimate studies.
I don’t say this because I think my views should carry any more weight. They shouldn’t. But they show there is a range and diversity of opinion amongst professionals working in this area.
What concerns me about the hide the decline debate is that the divergence between tree ring width and temperature in the latter half of the 20th century points to possibly both a strong non-linear response and threshold type behaviour.
There is nothing particularly different about conditions in the latter half of the 20th century and earlier periods. The temperatures, certainly in the 1960’s, are similar, nutrient inputs may have changed a little and water stress may have been different in some regions but not of a level that has not ben recorded in the past.
Given this and the observed divergence one can’t have any confidence that such a response has not occurred in the past and before the modern instrumental record starting in about 1880.
Paul Dennis was thought by many newspapers to be the potential ‘whistleblower’ of the climategate emails. He commented a few times at Simon Singh’s blog and his identity was confirmed at Bishop Hill
Thus it could be said that on this particular issue at least and that the ‘science is not settled’ even at UEA!
The Conduct of the BBC
I last spoke to James Delingpole after the BBC4 program Meet The Sceptics had been aired that focussed on Christopher Monckton. James had also been involved in the making of this program and had got to know the makers well and trusted them. (from his blog)
“The BBC? Not bloody likely. You’ve come to stitch us up, haven’t you?” I said.
“Not at all,” said Murray. “Look, there’s something you need to realise. I’m an independent filmmaker, I have no big budget for this, so I’m dependent on my work being original and interesting. The very last thing the BBC wants to commission is another hatchet job on sceptics. How boring and predictable would that be?”
Over the next few months I came to like and trust Murray. He was there filming Lord Lawson, Lord Monckton, Lord Leach and me when we debated at the Oxford Union. And he was there to capture our joy and surprise when we won – and to hang out drinking with us, afterwards, like he was our mate.
By this stage, we’d all come to accept that Murray was genuinely interested in presenting our case sympathetically. In fact, I must admit, I was really looking forward to seeing the finished product. “God this is going to be fantastic!” I thought. “At long bloody last, the BBC is going to do the right thing – and at feature length too.” – from James Delingpole’s blog
When I last spoke to him, James was genuinely angry and felt badly let down by the BBC. He had taken part in the making of both programmes in good faith, yet the BBC had basically said to the world in his view, that climate sceptics are deniers and an organised group of these deniers are responsible for stalling political action to ‘save the planet. It appears to me that this was the program makers intention all along.
I asked James if he felt concerned for his safety now, and he said absolutely that was a concern, following how sceptics were depicted in these programmes.
Prior to this program being aired apparently both people at the BBC and Paul Nurse spoke to the Guardian with comments that gives every reason for me to think the program was intended all along to present sceptics in a bad light.
I believe that in this type of BBC science program the public has an expectation that the BBC would present fairly both pro and sceptical arguments on the issues in enough detail to allow the public to take own view. If a respected main stream journalist can be treated like this by the BBC, what hope and expectations of being treated fairly should a member of the public or a blogger (like me – RealClimategate) have of the BBC?
The issue I have with this program and the BBC is not who is right or wrong in climate science, but the failure of the BBC to fairly present in the program the sceptical arguments in detail (which it must be fully aware of) with respect to climate science, the climategate emails and the inquiries to the general public.
I would like to leave the final words to James Delingpole that he said to me (and ones that he left in the comments at Bishop Hill) about why he participated in BBC Horizon – Science Under Attack program and trusted the producers of the BBC 4 program, Storyville – Meet the Sceptics.
Why shouldn’t one have faith in one’s national broadcaster to tell the other side of the story? – James Delingpole
Links/sources:
BBC Horizon -Science Under Attack – transcript
BBC Horizon – Science Under Attack – video (youtube)
The BBC email invitation to James Delingpole (my bold)
From: “Emma” [email address removed by author]
Date: 3 August 2010 19:25:08 GMT+01:00
To: James [email address removed by author]
Subject: BBC Horizon
Dear James
I hope you don’t mind me contacting you on this email address but I was given it by Louise Gray at the Telegraph.
I am making a film for BBC’s Horizon on public trust in science and I was hoping you may be able to help.
The film will explore our current relationship with science, whether we as a society do and should trust it. It is being presented by the nominated President of the Royal Society, Sir Paul Nurse. If he is voted in later this summer he will be taking over the at RS at the end of the year at around the same time the film will be transmitted so it would very much launch his presidency. The premise will be ‘This is a turbulent time for science. After the debacles of Climate-gate, GM products and MMR, I want to explore why science isn’t trusted and whether we as scientists are largely to blame’. By looking at these different areas he will dig into the difficult questions of how to deal with uncertainty in science, the communication of this uncertainty, and the difficulties when science meets policy and the media.
The tone of the film is very questioning but with no preconceptions. On the issue of who is to blame no-one will be left unscathed, whether that is science sceptics, the media or most particularly scientists themselves. Sir Paul is very aware of the culpability of scientists and that will come across in the film. They will not be portrayed as white coated magicians who should be left to work in their ivory towers – their failings will be dealt with in detail.
Now obviously one of the other great areas of contention is when science meets the media. Much as most scientists would like their papers to be published unedited in the mainstream media that obviously does not work. We will be visiting the newsroom of a national newspaper (most likely the Times although we have also been talking to the Telegraph) to explore the realities of where science fits in the news agenda, but I also want to explore the equally important role of the online world.
As an influential blogger on climate change, among other subjects, I’d really like Paul to meet you and chat to you about your views – how you see your role and that more generally the influence of the internet in changing the debate; your views on climate-gate and how that was handled by the media; the failings or otherwise of scientists in communicating the science.
Filming would be on the afternoon of 18 August ideally.
If you are interested please drop me a line or give me a call.
Kind regards
Emma [removed by author]
Producer/Director
BBC Vision Productions
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They lost my faith in them some years ago. I knew that this BBCfour program would be biased amd edit to their advantage anything that a sceptic would say.
I have long been a fan of the BBC as a public broadcaster, however I have become concerned in recent years about the the presentation of the News and such programs as Horizon. I do now firmly believe that the fix is in at the BBC. If your message is not aligned to the cause you have nil chance of expounding it. I shall be writing to my MP regarding several instances of BBC bias. This issue is becoming more widely recognised in the UK, there is even a website now “Biased BBC” such a thing would have been unthinkable 15 years ago. Carbon trading money, mafia? who knows.
Barry Woods says:
February 3, 2011 at 3:16 pm
“I am convinced that the BBC’s environment team (Richard Black, Roger Harrabin, etc) were oblivious to both of these programs content and had nothing to do with them. I’ve commented on Richard Black’s blog for a long time and I met Roger once at the Guardian Climategate meeting last year, I’m sure neither would be involved in such a cliched approach to scepticism. ”
Then you may be either naive or overly trusting (just like Dellers and Monckton), both of which play directly into the hands of these propaganda merchants. Why are you convinced? There’s a good quote from Hamlet applies here: “One may smile and smile and still be a villain”.
Not far off in the UK, the state depicted here
I came home from a meeting last night and walked in about 10.15. Now remember, half the middle east is ablaze, and we should all be watching very carefully what is going on, so what was on the news??
You guessed it, The Amazon is drying out and all because of CO2 which is causing Global Bloody Warming.
It is becoming intolerable living in England, it truly is. We have this constant drip drip drip. It is of course brain washing, they’ve got at my grandchildren. I am a peaceful man, but there are times…………………..
Mike says:
February 3, 2011 at 2:57 pm
“Nurse and Bindschadler meant net CO2 emissions. Many natural processes absorb CO2….”
Tell us Mike, are these natural processes that absorb CO2 able to discriminate between MM CO2 and natural CO2? Are you positing that MM CO2 does not get absorbed and therefore remains in the atmosphere, being the ONLY component of GHG?
SteveE says @1:31 am:
“I think the answer is not yet…”
In other words: No. If you have evidence of global damage, post it. Otherwise, the reasonable conclusion is that even after a ≈40% increase in CO2 there is no evidence of harm, and therefore the conjecture that CO2=CAGW is falsified. “What if” conjectures don’t pass muster at the world’s best climate site.
RichieP
I have ‘every good’ reason to think this. The BBC is a huge organisation and the left hand probably has no idea what the right is doing. Roger or Richard would definetly if they had been involved, would have at least have spotted the 7 times mistake and corrected it.
If only, if this is your thinking, to stop sceptics to make hay with it.
Barry, thank you for an excellent post. The BBC has long lost the plot journalistically and, as far as I can tell from my man-in-the-street informal research, it is losing its audience hand over fist in the UK for its news output.
In the last two weeks, the BBC has apologised for two humorous comments – one, made by Stephen Fry, about a Japanese gentleman, and a second, by Jeremy Clarkson, about Mexico. In the first, basically a panel-type programme called QI, Fry and his panellists were giggling at the fact that one man was unlucky enough to be present both at Hiroshima and Nagasaki when the atom bomb was dropped – and the joke was about him being the unluckiest man in the world.
In the second, Clarkson and his team on Top Gear were stereotyping Mexican people in what was obviously an over-the-top reference (in much the same way as non-Brits stereotype the English as being cold, reserved, wearing bowler hats and drinking tea).
So, apologies from the BBC for those two humorous items, as some people were offended by them. But no apology for stereotyping AGW skeptics as (according to James Delingpole) being “on a par with people who don’t believe that AIDs is caused by the HIV virus and people who destroy GM crops”.
We know that the BBC is blatantly unbalanced in its approach to global warming and admits it. But this is offensive.
Well, at least we now have a public admission from Jones that he fiddles his data in order to fit another agenda. From the transcript:
He quite unashamedly admits that he altered the graph to suit the needs of the WMO.
I remember a long time ago, advising Anthony not to talk to the BBC, because they will edit and control what is said – especially having regard to Anthony’s disability. Believe me, they take no prisoners.
The only way you can get a point across is in a live debate, that, they cannot control, so ask them if they’ll do it? And don’t hold your breath while waiting for the answer.
Delingpole, Monckton and the rest should not refuse to debate the subject, because that would make them look scared, like Al Gore. They should, however, insist on only taking part in a live, unedited debate. Programmes such as ‘Any Questions’ and ‘Question Time’ are good for this. Unfortunately, Delingpole, like many who are primarily writers rather than speakers, isn’t too hot on ‘the hoof’ either.
An excellent and all points are well made.
At the age of sixteen I learnt by hard and extremely embarrassing experience that journalists will lie to ‘improve’ a story or bend it to their purpose and have taken any so-called news disseminating organisation, bet it radio or television broadcast, or any form of print media or electronic media with a huge portion of wariness.
But the BBC plumbed new depths yesterday morning during their Breakfast Programme when the focus turned to Cyclone Yasi impacting on Queensland. An earnest young ‘scientific expert’ was introduced and when asked a leading question about the corelation between ‘climate change’ and cyclonic activity, he assured listeners that the corelation was proven beyond doubt. The manner in which he was fed the question made me wonder if the question and its answer had been scripted.
The BBC proves every day on many of it’s fora that it is deeply biased to the point of rank dishonesty.
It says much for the competence or otherwise of the BBC that between the original filming commenced last summer, and the broadcast at the end of January, no one picked up on the Nurse/ Bindschadler assertions about CO2 emissions and edited them out.
Either they were all ignorant on the subject, or they knowingly left them in.
Shades of Himalayan glaciers retreating – accidentally on purpose?
Mike says:
February 3, 2011 at 2:57 pm
“Nurse and Bindschadler meant net CO2 emissions. Many natural processes absorb CO2.”
No, he is talking about emissions, not absorptions. He does not use the word ‘net.’ He says: ” Natural causes only can produce – yes, there are volcanoes popping off and things like that, and coming out of the ocean, only about one gigaton per year.”
In other words, Bindschadler stated very clearly that natural causes can only produce about 1 gigaton per year.
If you think that is a true statement then I suggest you familiarise yourself with the basics of the carbon cycle. If you are fully familiar with the figures, which show natural emissions are roughly 30 times larger than human emissions, then I suggest you consider the honesty of your statement.
Here is a perfect example of why many climate scientists cannot be trusted.
Chris
There is one other point in regard to these two BBC programmes which shows the inherent bias and, sorry, dishonesty:
Not one of the well-known scientists who question the AGW ‘science’ was interviewed.
I understand that there was a tiny clip showing Prof Lindzen in the ‘Meet the sceptics’ film. The film-maker was actually in the USA at that time. So why was Prof Lindzen not given more space? Did his interview end up on the cutting-room floor?
Why were none of the others – the Pielkes, the two Mc’s, Dr Spencer, Dr Loehle, etc etc etc being interviewed?
Can’t have been because of the cost …
Nor did Sir Nurse interview any of the ‘usual suspects’ on the sceptics’ side. Again – why? Too expensive to get to the USA or Canada? Odd that when one thinks about the hundreds of reporters and journalists being flown to the footie world cup, to Cancun, or even Copenhagen.
This, imho, underlines that there is not just bias in the Beeb regarding AGW, there is an underlying dishonesty, cherry-picking the scientist who get heard and who don’t.
“After the debacles of Climate-gate, GM products and MMR, I want to explore why science isn’t trusted” – hmmm, I remember one Professor Richard Southwood reassuring the British people that British beef was safe to eat during the “Mad Cow” scandal. Shortly afterwards 125 people died from vCJD and 155,000 cattle had to be slaughtered. Government scientists promoting public policy and coming down on the wrong side of the truth? Well I never……
“Simon Singh, the best selling author of ’Fermat’s Last Theorum’ had tweeted:
Sorry, but @JamesDelingpole deserves mockery ‘cos he has the arrogance to think he knows more of science than a Nobel Laureate”
Hmm, well an IQ of 137 certainly doesn’t make me a genius, but I think it is quite enough to detect the smell of scientific bullshit – and the pathetic attempts to sweep it under the carpet.
On the broad subject identified by this heading, you do have to wonder what goes on in the minds of BBC producers..
Recently on BBC Breakfast was a feature about the fact that, due to council funding cuts, a lot of councils would be switching off their speed cameras.
Cut to reporter standing by a speed camera in the Midlands – brief spiel to camera on the reasons and implications, and then the reporter introduces someone to give his view on the matter.
Someone from a motoring organisation..?
A representative from one of the councils involved..?
Nope.
A guy from FRIENDS OF THE EARTH..!!
So what does anyone expect him to say..? ‘Awww – poor motorists – we sympathise totally – set them free from these tyrannical boxes..’
Well – of course not. Actually he was quite restrained – went on about it discouraging people from walking and riding bikes – not that I could see any connection whatsoever, but never mind…
So – agree wholeheartedly. The BBC HAS broken faith with the general public…
Did you notice, as well as the humorous music, that Moncton was always referred to by his first name only, as “Chris-to-pher” ? Made him sound like a child or someone who needs looking after.
Thanks for this clear summary. I was appalled by the BBC Horizon Programme. It was clear from an early stage that this was no unbiased comment and investigation. By the end we saw that Paul Nurse had comepletely abandoned any scientifci objectivity. There was a sense that this was an ambush. Deli9ngpole cam across and uncharacteristically weak and hesitatnt, and then we smelt a rat. Indeed it was a stitch-up. The error over amounts of CO2 (human and natural) was immediately obvious to any intelligent informed person. The Royal Society was already strongly pro-AGW under, Nurse’s predecessor, Sir Martin Rees.
How sad it is that the BBC has become a propagande machine. One would like to think that it is unconscious, but when it is this blatant – no, it is deliberate and conscious.
Snotrocket says:
February 4, 2011 at 2:09 am
Mike says:
February 3, 2011 at 2:57 pm
“Nurse and Bindschadler meant net CO2 emissions. Many natural processes absorb CO2….”
Tell us Mike, are these natural processes that absorb CO2 able to discriminate between MM CO2 and natural CO2? Are you positing that MM CO2 does not get absorbed and therefore remains in the atmosphere, being the ONLY component of GHG?
Natural sinks don’t discriminate between natural and human CO2 (except for some differences in isotopes). But the total yearly absorption is only halve the amount of human emissions. That means that the MM emissions are fully responsible for the increase, whatever the flows within the natural cycles are (3, 30 or 300 times larger or smaller). A cycle is throughput and doesn’t add or substract any net amount of CO2, only the difference between sources and sinks at the end of the year is what changes the total amount in the atmosphere.
I don’t know where the “seven times” is based on, volcanoes emit less than 1% of what humans emit, while oceans emit and absorb around 8 times more CO2 and vegetation 12 times more over the seasons. But both oceans and vegetation are net sinks for CO2, not sources.
Let me pose a different question. Let’s assume for the purposes of argument that ALL current global warming is due to increasing amounts of anthropogenic CO2. We know what this level of increase actually is. It’s about 0.25-0.5% per year, or 1-2 ppm. At this rate, it would take 140 years to double the current level of atmospheric CO2. Does it not seem likely that this miniscule annual increase of CO2 could be halted or even reversed by the ingenuity of a society that went from horses to Lamborghinis in fifty years? It’s the classic Michael Crighton what-to-do-with-the-increasing-horseshit problem. My point, of course, is that, by defining the GW problem purely in terms of very small increases in anthropogenic CO2, the pro-AGW faction suggests a fairly simple solution. After all, global temperatures were very acceptable to everyone as recently as 25 years ago.
As someone who has vigorously supported the BBC in the past, I now cannot wait for this Government to privatise it!
Even Question Time selectively picks it’s guest speakers on occasions.
Andrew Neil stands alone as a loan beacon of journalistic integrity IMHO.
I am now opposed to paying for an overtly Politically Biased TV station.
I really do wonder how many people would pay-up if it was privatised and encrypted?
Not me!
… and Question Time isn’t live.