During last night’s State of the Union Address, president Obama essentially abandoned AGW proponents, and shifted the focus to energy, including uttering the greens most dreaded term: “clean coal”. He also set a bold goal that raised some eyebrows:
I challenge you to join me in setting a new goal: by 2035, 80% of America’s electricity will come from clean energy sources. Some folks want wind and solar. Others want nuclear, clean coal, and natural gas. To meet this goal, we will need them all – and I urge Democrats and Republicans to work together to make it happen.
I’m wondering if this idea from Standford might have been part of the thinking at the White House. In this presser, the implementation timelines are about the same, and both make references to the U.S. space program. Stanford mentions the moon landings, Obama mentions “…our generation’s Sputnik moment.”
From Stanford University:
The world can be powered by alternative energy, using today’s technology, in 20-40 years
VIDEO: A new study — co-authored by Stanford researcher Mark Z. Jacobson and UC-Davis researcher Mark A. Delucchi — analyzing what is needed to convert the world’s energy supplies to clean and sustainable sources says that it can be done with today’s technology at costs roughly comparable to conventional energy. But converting will be a massive undertaking on the scale of the moon landings. What is needed most is the societal and political will to make it happen.
If someone told you there was a way you could save 2.5 million to 3 million lives a year and simultaneously halt global warming, reduce air and water pollution and develop secure, reliable energy sources – nearly all with existing technology and at costs comparable with what we spend on energy today – why wouldn’t you do it?
According to a new study coauthored by Stanford researcher Mark Z. Jacobson, we could accomplish all that by converting the world to clean, renewable energy sources and forgoing fossil fuels.
“Based on our findings, there are no technological or economic barriers to converting the entire world to clean, renewable energy sources,” said Jacobson, a professor of civil and environmental engineering. “It is a question of whether we have the societal and political will.”
He and Mark Delucchi, of the University of California-Davis, have written a two-part paper in Energy Policy in which they assess the costs, technology and material requirements of converting the planet, using a plan they developed.
The world they envision would run largely on electricity. Their plan calls for using wind, water and solar energy to generate power, with wind and solar power contributing 90 percent of the needed energy.
Geothermal and hydroelectric sources would each contribute about 4 percent in their plan (70 percent of the hydroelectric is already in place), with the remaining 2 percent from wave and tidal power.
Vehicles, ships and trains would be powered by electricity and hydrogen fuel cells. Aircraft would run on liquid hydrogen. Homes would be cooled and warmed with electric heaters – no more natural gas or coal – and water would be preheated by the sun.
Commercial processes would be powered by electricity and hydrogen. In all cases, the hydrogen would be produced from electricity. Thus, wind, water and sun would power the world.
The researchers approached the conversion with the goal that by 2030, all new energy generation would come from wind, water and solar, and by 2050, all pre-existing energy production would be converted as well.
“We wanted to quantify what is necessary in order to replace all the current energy infrastructure – for all purposes – with a really clean and sustainable energy infrastructure within 20 to 40 years,” said Jacobson.
One of the benefits of the plan is that it results in a 30 percent reduction in world energy demand since it involves converting combustion processes to electrical or hydrogen fuel cell processes. Electricity is much more efficient than combustion.
That reduction in the amount of power needed, along with the millions of lives saved by the reduction in air pollution from elimination of fossil fuels, would help keep the costs of the conversion down.

“When you actually account for all the costs to society – including medical costs – of the current fuel structure, the costs of our plan are relatively similar to what we have today,” Jacobson said.
One of the biggest hurdles with wind and solar energy is that both can be highly variable, which has raised doubts about whether either source is reliable enough to provide “base load” energy, the minimum amount of energy that must be available to customers at any given hour of the day.
Jacobson said that the variability can be overcome.
“The most important thing is to combine renewable energy sources into a bundle,” he said. “If you combine them as one commodity and use hydroelectric to fill in gaps, it is a lot easier to match demand.”
Wind and solar are complementary, Jacobson said, as wind often peaks at night and sunlight peaks during the day. Using hydroelectric power to fill in the gaps, as it does in our current infrastructure, allows demand to be precisely met by supply in most cases. Other renewable sources such as geothermal and tidal power can also be used to supplement the power from wind and solar sources.
“One of the most promising methods of insuring that supply matches demand is using long-distance transmission to connect widely dispersed sites,” said Delucchi. Even if conditions are poor for wind or solar energy generation in one area on a given day, a few hundred miles away the winds could be blowing steadily and the sun shining.
“With a system that is 100 percent wind, water and solar, you can’t use normal methods for matching supply and demand. You have to have what people call a supergrid, with long-distance transmission and really good management,” he said.
Another method of meeting demand could entail building a bigger renewable-energy infrastructure to match peak hourly demand and use the off-hours excess electricity to produce hydrogen for the industrial and transportation sectors.
Using pricing to control peak demands, a tool that is used today, would also help.
Jacobson and Delucchi assessed whether their plan might run into problems with the amounts of material needed to build all the turbines, solar collectors and other devices.
They found that even materials such as platinum and the rare earth metals, the most obvious potential supply bottlenecks, are available in sufficient amounts. And recycling could effectively extend the supply.
“For solar cells there are different materials, but there are so many choices that if one becomes short, you can switch,” Jacobson said. “Major materials for wind energy are concrete and steel and there is no shortage of those.”
Jacobson and Delucchi calculated the number of wind turbines needed to implement their plan, as well as the number of solar plants, rooftop photovoltaic cells, geothermal, hydroelectric, tidal and wave-energy installations.
They found that to power 100 percent of the world for all purposes from wind, water and solar resources, the footprint needed is about 0.4 percent of the world’s land (mostly solar footprint) and the spacing between installations is another 0.6 percent of the world’s land (mostly wind-turbine spacing), Jacobson said.
One of the criticisms of wind power is that wind farms require large amounts of land, due to the spacing required between the windmills to prevent interference of turbulence from one turbine on another.
“Most of the land between wind turbines is available for other uses, such as pasture or farming,” Jacobson said. “The actual footprint required by wind turbines to power half the world’s energy is less than the area of Manhattan.” If half the wind farms were located offshore, a single Manhattan would suffice.
Jacobson said that about 1 percent of the wind turbines required are already in place, and a lesser percentage for solar power.
“This really involves a large scale transformation,” he said. “It would require an effort comparable to the Apollo moon project or constructing the interstate highway system.”
“But it is possible, without even having to go to new technologies,” Jacobson said. “We really need to just decide collectively that this is the direction we want to head as a society.”
Jacobson is the director of Stanford’s Atmosphere/Energy Program and a senior fellow at Stanford’s Woods Institute for the Environment and the Precourt Institute for Energy.

Actually, given his “focus like a laser” on energy, he’ll achieve the 80% goal by Christmas this year. Simply by shutting down all hydrocarbon processing and power plant, mothballing a few nuke plants and blowing up a few man-made hydro plants to return them to nature. His only flaw is overshooting – corn rust can be a real killer.
How many wind turbines froze this winter? How many coal and gas generators was needed to back them up? How many coal and gas generators is NORMALLY needed to back them up?
Utter BS!
The thing I find surprising is that with all this talk about renewable energy, no one seems to mention cellulose ethanol. My reading convinces me that this is the only renewable energy source that is viable, since it enables us to store the energy we produce. As I understand the situation, the US needs to go to at least E20 so as to encourage manufacturers to venture into mass production of cellulose ethanol.
I seem to recall reading about the “hydrogen economy” more than 20 years ago and there seem to be some major impediments in the way. I’m wondering if Jacobson has ever heard of the concept of energy density? What we should be striving for is maximizing energy density of power sources so that minimal amounts of land are used for power generation. Right now watermelons howl when one proposes putting a power line up in their neighborhood (all of the potential problems of electric fields causing every health problem one can imagine) and increasing wind power would require massive numbers of power lines to carry all that power somewhere.
Ecologically, wind power is a disaster and I’d much rather have a nuclear power plant next door to me than a windmill. My preference would be to have a LENR generator in my basement which would greatly decrease the chance of my home electronics getting fried when we have the next Carrington event. What Jacobson is proposing to build is a massive continent sized antenna which should exhibit interesting behavior when the next major solar flare hits. If we have to spend money on energy research, lets spend it on LENR which at least might result in a practical result in the future.
Surprise, surprise! Straight from Wikipedia:
“General Electric is currently designing an IGCC [integrated gasification combined cycle ] model plant that should introduce greater reliability. GE’s model features advanced turbines optimized for the coal syngas.”
Who just signed on (officially) with O’s team? Jeff Immelt, CEO of GE.
This goal can only happen if the “green” technology comes from cold fusion–which would be a fitting rebuttal of the hot fusion crowd that has disparaged cold fusion at every opportunity. We’ll know in a few short months.
Oh goodie, the old “Will to Power” ideology, haven’t had any problems with that mentality in the last 100 years or so have we?
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“Based on our findings, there are no technological or economic barriers to converting the entire world to clean, renewable energy sources,” said Jacobson, a professor of civil and environmental engineering. “It is a question of whether we have the societal and political will.”
Leon Brozyna says:
January 26, 2011 at 10:45 pm
What a wonderful idea!
Here’s an even better one. These genius academia folk should prove how easy this is by crafting a business plan and get funding from venture cap sources (check with Mr. Gore), then build their own infrastructure just like any other energy company. Should be easy, as they claim it’s cost competitive to fossil fuels. Just think — in thirty years or so they too can be multi-billionaires like Gates or Jobs and threatening the very existence of Exxon!
In the meantime, I’m not holding my breath.
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I was going to post something similar but Leon summarized it nicely. These academics NEVER want to try out their ideas in the marketplace with their own money or venture capital.
“Hello – Mr. T. Boone Pickens? I have Jacobson & DeLucchi from Stanford on line one… yes, it’s something to do with wind turbines…”
Don’t you see, it’s all very easy? Just put a wind turbine, solar panel, and beaver damn in the middle of every 1km x 1km grid over the entire planet, pray to Gaia, sprinkle fairy dust and instant presto doubleplusgood cleanrenewablegoodiegreenie energy for all, for ever and ever, amen! I think we need to stop calling this stuff Bulls**t and start calling it Unicorn S**t. At least bullsh*t is real.
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“Before one gets to high up on the soap box… it might be wise to consider the base loading & efficiency problems with clean energy sources… esp wind & solar. “
Anthony, et al: Watch “Follow the Money” tonite on FoxBusiness @ur momisugly 10et. Bolling will talk about Obama’s “clean energy” push and GE’s role in that. Should be quite interesting!
“by 2035, 80% of America’s electricity will come from clean energy sources.”
If you classify supercritical boilers in coal and gas power stations as ‘clean’ (which would be fair as the UN consider them clean enough for Clean Development Mechanism credits) a renewal of US fossil fuel power stations in an orderly fashion over the next 25 years would achieve the bulk of that target.
I read that study. They left out a very important aspect of their proposal. How to build that much “green” power. One can do the math to see what the growth rate would have to be to build 4 million turbines. It’s 113% per year. Thus we would have to, every year form now to 2030, double the number of turbines built. Such that by 2029 we would have to build 2 million of them. Add to that the building of more than a billion rooftop solar systems.
And these guys think this is quite achievable. Makes one wonder what they are smoking…
Where do I go to get a grant to work on my design for an electric car powered by a windmill on the roof?
What geat idea! The faster you drive, the more the turbine will turn to produce power and the faster you can go! Should appeal to the”greens”.
Dr. Ira Glickstein (PhD):
Your idea of “clean coal” is just as nonsensical as the “100% renewable energy at no cost” that these Stanford guys peddle.
The is no such thing as “clean coal”. (Obama is just as missinformed us you, but he’s no PhD).
When there will be, you can come back and tell us about it.
Meanwhyle youre rants are meaningless.
That would be great, we convert the USA to France’s model and use nuclear power for most of our electricity… Isn’t that what he said? Cheap electricity for all ???
What, you are laughing ….
Father Guido says:
January 26, 2011 at 9:47 pm
Why don’t these guys suggest a state, or smallish European country to use as a demonstration, first to see if it would work and second to get the bugs out before we spend Trillions and trillions.
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Well, they did. It failed. Check Spain. It damn near bankrupted the country. I believe Denmark may still be hurting a bit from the cold embrace of renewable energy as well.
Hydro-electric can fill in the gaps. Yippee! Here come the dams.
But I suspect new dams will cost a wee bit more than the old ones.
Clean energy / coal means whatever the EPA says it means. To the extent that clean coal means free of CO2 (which is their stated and understood definition), then Obama is for it? Other than a change in rhetoric to get elected in 2012, there is no other change evident. Obama never backed off of CO2 one little bit. I suspect he doesn’t care and never did, though. It’s just a question of useful politics and posing. Currently, he’s trying to have it both ways and that is all that can be concluded.
All you negative Know-alls should really try doing detailed research and quantification, and some should learn how to read carefully. Jamie’s observation above is typical. He compares total space occupied by the wind farm to the authors’ total space occupied by the turbines.
Conventional fossil fuel electricity generation typically converts 30% of the primary energy in the fuel into electricity. Wind and solar produce electricity directly. For ICE cars, petroleum energy in the ground to wheel to road energy is about 15% efficient. Renewable to hydrogen to fuel cell to motor to wheel can be 50% efficient. (In this case the technology is not quite there yet). Overall, simply moving to renewables reduces the primary energy needed by at least 50%. At least in the USA, another 50% is available from efficiency improvements, a bit of conservation, and some life style changes, like more use of public transportation in cities and crowded travel corridors. The 70% reduction in primary energy is quite doable. Starting there, the conversion to renewables is not really far-fetched. Personally, I would still include a good bit of nuclear in the mix, to make load balancing easier. The interesting thing for the know-alls is that we will do this, because fossil fuel is finite, and will no longer be economically competitive before 2100.
Why are they still pushing the proven unfeasible idea that whirlygigs and sun collectors as energy options? They don’t work well enough. They don’t work well enough, and in case you haven’t heard, they don’t work well enough.
It was pointed out earlier, even if they started working at exponential efficiency, it still won’t give you the required base loading. Forget peak demand! It won’t be reliable enough for base load. Gosh, they are a tiresome lot.
30% more hydroelectric means new dams. The major rivers in the East are well developed at the river’s edge (comparatively so), which would make it political suicide to displace so many voters. So the untouched rivers of the West will once again be the target. That means the Snake through Hell’s Canyon. Fat chance. Especially when we are sitting on mountains of coal and layer after layer of natural gas.
Mark Jacobson states that ‘1% of the wind turbines are already in place..’
Can’t wait for the other 99% – oh, hang on – no room for housing; farming; industry – and a ‘supergrid’ to conduct the electricity round the globe from windy, sunny places to calm, dark places….
And the transmission losses would be..?
Oh – why the hell am I bothering…
Obama’s 2035 goal is based on expected coal plant retirements.
Only 1/3(330 GW) of US Generating Capacity is coal.
The vast majority of it built in the 1970’s and 1980’s.
Peak build rate in the 1970’s was about 1 GW/month.
A retirement rate of of 1 GW/month gets rid of 90% of our coal fired capacity by 2035.
The cost of transporting coal(3 cents a mile) makes the economics of ‘clean coal’ advantageous in a relatively small geographic area.
Coal’s major advantages at the moment are the plants are all built and in realtively good working order. ‘New anything’ doesn’t pencil out very well against a ‘perfectly working something’. The ‘new anything’ comes with a payment book.
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Sure there is. It simply depends on your definition of “clean.” Reducing sulfur and particulate matter is doable with nextgen systems. Extracting CO2 from the exhaust gasses is more expensive. Then again, there isn’t anything unclean about CO2.
With more and more greens now admitting that solar and wind can become major energy sources only when linked to continent wide supergrids to balance out the irregularities in supply, isn’t this then the golden question on which the whole green vision now hinges?
Are supergrids achievable? Would they be reliable? Would they function as promised? Or is it yet another green pipe dream, like biofuels, based on grandiose visions, but relatively little hard technological substance?
The difference between “we like to think that it would work” and “we have proven it works” is huge. It is NOT advisable to base trillion dollar projects on the former!