Was this part of the inspiration for Obama's SOTU goal: "by 2035, 80% of America’s electricity will come from clean energy sources"?

During last night’s State of the Union Address, president Obama essentially abandoned AGW proponents, and shifted the focus to energy, including uttering the greens most dreaded term: “clean coal”. He also set a bold goal that raised some eyebrows:

I challenge you to join me in setting a new goal: by 2035, 80% of America’s electricity will come from clean energy sources. Some folks want wind and solar. Others want nuclear, clean coal, and natural gas. To meet this goal, we will need them all – and I urge Democrats and Republicans to work together to make it happen.

I’m wondering if this idea from Standford might have been part of the thinking at the White House. In this presser, the implementation timelines are about the same, and both make references to the U.S. space program. Stanford mentions the moon landings, Obama mentions “…our generation’s Sputnik moment.”

From Stanford University:

The world can be powered by alternative energy, using today’s technology, in 20-40 years

VIDEO: A new study — co-authored by Stanford researcher Mark Z. Jacobson and UC-Davis researcher Mark A. Delucchi — analyzing what is needed to convert the world’s energy supplies to clean and sustainable sources says that it can be done with today’s technology at costs roughly comparable to conventional energy. But converting will be a massive undertaking on the scale of the moon landings. What is needed most is the societal and political will to make it happen.

If someone told you there was a way you could save 2.5 million to 3 million lives a year and simultaneously halt global warming, reduce air and water pollution and develop secure, reliable energy sources – nearly all with existing technology and at costs comparable with what we spend on energy today – why wouldn’t you do it?

According to a new study coauthored by Stanford researcher Mark Z. Jacobson, we could accomplish all that by converting the world to clean, renewable energy sources and forgoing fossil fuels.

“Based on our findings, there are no technological or economic barriers to converting the entire world to clean, renewable energy sources,” said Jacobson, a professor of civil and environmental engineering. “It is a question of whether we have the societal and political will.”

He and Mark Delucchi, of the University of California-Davis, have written a two-part paper in Energy Policy in which they assess the costs, technology and material requirements of converting the planet, using a plan they developed.

The world they envision would run largely on electricity. Their plan calls for using wind, water and solar energy to generate power, with wind and solar power contributing 90 percent of the needed energy.

Geothermal and hydroelectric sources would each contribute about 4 percent in their plan (70 percent of the hydroelectric is already in place), with the remaining 2 percent from wave and tidal power.

Vehicles, ships and trains would be powered by electricity and hydrogen fuel cells. Aircraft would run on liquid hydrogen. Homes would be cooled and warmed with electric heaters – no more natural gas or coal – and water would be preheated by the sun.

Commercial processes would be powered by electricity and hydrogen. In all cases, the hydrogen would be produced from electricity. Thus, wind, water and sun would power the world.

The researchers approached the conversion with the goal that by 2030, all new energy generation would come from wind, water and solar, and by 2050, all pre-existing energy production would be converted as well.

“We wanted to quantify what is necessary in order to replace all the current energy infrastructure – for all purposes – with a really clean and sustainable energy infrastructure within 20 to 40 years,” said Jacobson.

One of the benefits of the plan is that it results in a 30 percent reduction in world energy demand since it involves converting combustion processes to electrical or hydrogen fuel cell processes. Electricity is much more efficient than combustion.

That reduction in the amount of power needed, along with the millions of lives saved by the reduction in air pollution from elimination of fossil fuels, would help keep the costs of the conversion down.

Mark Jacobson analyzed what is needed to convert the world's energy supplies to clean and sustainable sources and says that it can be done with today's technology at costs roughly comparable to conventional energy. Credit: L.A. Cicero, Stanford University News Service

“When you actually account for all the costs to society – including medical costs – of the current fuel structure, the costs of our plan are relatively similar to what we have today,” Jacobson said.

One of the biggest hurdles with wind and solar energy is that both can be highly variable, which has raised doubts about whether either source is reliable enough to provide “base load” energy, the minimum amount of energy that must be available to customers at any given hour of the day.

Jacobson said that the variability can be overcome.

“The most important thing is to combine renewable energy sources into a bundle,” he said. “If you combine them as one commodity and use hydroelectric to fill in gaps, it is a lot easier to match demand.”

Wind and solar are complementary, Jacobson said, as wind often peaks at night and sunlight peaks during the day. Using hydroelectric power to fill in the gaps, as it does in our current infrastructure, allows demand to be precisely met by supply in most cases. Other renewable sources such as geothermal and tidal power can also be used to supplement the power from wind and solar sources.

“One of the most promising methods of insuring that supply matches demand is using long-distance transmission to connect widely dispersed sites,” said Delucchi. Even if conditions are poor for wind or solar energy generation in one area on a given day, a few hundred miles away the winds could be blowing steadily and the sun shining.

“With a system that is 100 percent wind, water and solar, you can’t use normal methods for matching supply and demand. You have to have what people call a supergrid, with long-distance transmission and really good management,” he said.

Another method of meeting demand could entail building a bigger renewable-energy infrastructure to match peak hourly demand and use the off-hours excess electricity to produce hydrogen for the industrial and transportation sectors.

Using pricing to control peak demands, a tool that is used today, would also help.

Jacobson and Delucchi assessed whether their plan might run into problems with the amounts of material needed to build all the turbines, solar collectors and other devices.

They found that even materials such as platinum and the rare earth metals, the most obvious potential supply bottlenecks, are available in sufficient amounts. And recycling could effectively extend the supply.

“For solar cells there are different materials, but there are so many choices that if one becomes short, you can switch,” Jacobson said. “Major materials for wind energy are concrete and steel and there is no shortage of those.”

Jacobson and Delucchi calculated the number of wind turbines needed to implement their plan, as well as the number of solar plants, rooftop photovoltaic cells, geothermal, hydroelectric, tidal and wave-energy installations.

They found that to power 100 percent of the world for all purposes from wind, water and solar resources, the footprint needed is about 0.4 percent of the world’s land (mostly solar footprint) and the spacing between installations is another 0.6 percent of the world’s land (mostly wind-turbine spacing), Jacobson said.

One of the criticisms of wind power is that wind farms require large amounts of land, due to the spacing required between the windmills to prevent interference of turbulence from one turbine on another.

“Most of the land between wind turbines is available for other uses, such as pasture or farming,” Jacobson said. “The actual footprint required by wind turbines to power half the world’s energy is less than the area of Manhattan.” If half the wind farms were located offshore, a single Manhattan would suffice.

Jacobson said that about 1 percent of the wind turbines required are already in place, and a lesser percentage for solar power.

“This really involves a large scale transformation,” he said. “It would require an effort comparable to the Apollo moon project or constructing the interstate highway system.”

“But it is possible, without even having to go to new technologies,” Jacobson said. “We really need to just decide collectively that this is the direction we want to head as a society.”

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Jacobson is the director of Stanford’s Atmosphere/Energy Program and a senior fellow at Stanford’s Woods Institute for the Environment and the Precourt Institute for Energy.

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Lonnie Schubert
January 26, 2011 10:48 pm

Total nonsense! Windmills are dead. Solar is still in its infancy. Hydro is maxed already, and Gore and company brag whenever they tear one down. The notion that winds peak at night is absurd. Anyone who has significant experience with hot air ballooning knows that late evening and early morning have the lowest average winds. http://www.windwisdom.net/ (Average wind is higher at night above several hundred feet. Perhaps they were proposing BIG towers.) Was this really from a world-renown institution of higher learning? No bottlenecks in rare materials? Nonsense! And what’s with the land-use percentages? NOT! is all I can say.
What’s up with the assertion regarding efficiency? The difference between heating a pot of water with a gas fire is so much more efficient than heating the same pot with electric resistance heat that I consider gas fired electric plants to be immoral.
Are there any points in the article that aren’t farcical? If so, I missed. Can someone point to the sensible statements for me?

AusieDan
January 26, 2011 10:52 pm

But seriously, this is not yet April first is it?
Nor is it the year 2,000, the approved time for turn of the century madness?
These people have left solid ground and are floating far out in space.
Anything is now possible!
Unless you are responsible for getting it done and for keeping things running.
I had a very strange dream last night when I was asleep.
Perhaps I am still dreaming.
Yes, that explains it very well.

Al Gored
January 26, 2011 10:56 pm

Here’s some views from Green Inc.
“Getting 80 percent of our energy from clean sources by 2035 sounds fantastic, but what’s natural gas doing in there?”
http://www.greentechmedia.com/articles/read/is-obamas-plan-good-for-green-tech/
“President Barack Obama used yesterday’s State of the Union address to set the US on a course to producing 80 per cent of its electricity from “clean sources” by 2035, including renewables, nuclear power, clean coal and natural gas.
Although making no explicit mention of climate change or greenhouse gases – effectively removing emissions-capping legislation from the White House agenda – Obama did reiterate his call for an end to fossil fuel subsidies…”
http://www.businessgreen.com/bg/news/1939577/obama-pledges-renewed-clean-energy-investment

joe
January 26, 2011 10:57 pm

“clean coal” is an oxymoron…there will never be “clean coal” because you’ll always have the millions of tons of waste sludge that is filled with heavy metals, uranium, etc…you can either have dozens and dozens(hundreds?) of these massive sludge pits across the country or one single repository for nuclear?
good luck on that 80% by 2035 though….any greenies want to make a wager? is there anyone on the planet that believes that number? this is the kind of wishful thinking you get from someone(obama) who’s never actually produced anything in his whole life…

kwik
January 26, 2011 10:58 pm

I can see it . An Airbus 380 with a HUUUUGE hydrogen-tank mounted on its back.
Yes I can!

AusieDan
January 26, 2011 11:01 pm

King of Cool – BUT BUT BUT
The voters may not like your solution!
Nice try though.
Back to square one.

dp
January 26, 2011 11:04 pm

I guess they’ve solved the problem that plagues wind and solar – neither is a persistent energy source within a region. It has never happened to my knowledge at least that either has ever replaced an oil/steam/gas/water driven generator anywhere on earth.
Here’s the scenario I like to use: You have an island, say Tristan De Cunha, and you’d like to go green, so you use your best John Belushi pout to get a handout from some oil-rich nation to build a nice wind farm and solar based grid and send the old petro-based generator to a poor nation like, oh, Tuvalu. Hell, you don’t need it anymore because you have upgraded to Energy Grid version 2.0. All the islanders form up in the heart of the urban core and toss a grand party and all is well. Then the sun goes down, and the wind dies back a little and your nifty system goes on batteries.
And the next day is calm and just a little cloudy, and the town smithie decides it is time to catch up on his welding and fires off a spark welder to patch some holes in the town’s well bucket. Edna’s CPAP machine takes a dive, and the restaurant’s oven cools just a little. The thermometer in the battery room is rising, and the inverters are howling. Angus, the town butcher’s just made his rounds and decides to top off his green car and plugs it into the grid. The hair drier at the beauty shop gives it up, the mayor’s wife’s wet hair will follow her home, and the first call on her cell phone, which is cut off when the cell tower goes dark, was to the CoC asking what is being done to go off batteries and wonders why nobody thought to have backup batteries.
The next day is dark and brooding – and that’s just the mayor’s wife whose temperament matches nicely the cold dark chill of a long day of rain. At the airport the wind sock is drooping, and the only propeller turning is on a Cessna 150 taxiing to the fuel pump. It is leaving the island forever as the economies of scale that enable the delivery of fuel for the now gone generator spilt over to the airport fuel depot and they’re down to fumes.
The same situation has hit Aubrey’s Gas to Go station in the city core and he’s now pumping fuel with an extension cord that is currently plugged into Angus the butcher’s car and will be for another few days at the present rate of fade on the nifty new grid.
The guy with the Belushi pout is trying to get a call through to an oil-rich nation for a quick call – “Hello – operator – put me through to Tuvalu!”

tango
January 26, 2011 11:08 pm

? how much power is needed to keep the wind turbines operational when there is NO wind .

Bob in Castlemaine
January 26, 2011 11:09 pm

Sounds to me suspiciously like the turning of the next page in the never ending saga of failed Stanford/Sierra Club predictions. Surely in a post CAGW scam world the wheat will be separated from the chaff.
Here in Australia, we well recall that famous line from former Prime Minister Bob Hawke “by 1990 no Australian child will be living in poverty.”

January 26, 2011 11:12 pm

@King of something or other:
“Any-one found committing crime shall be shot into space.”
Really? Free space access? Any particular crimes I should start with?

Bill Jamison
January 26, 2011 11:16 pm

Plans for a major solar energy plant in the desert east of San Diego have collapsed due to lawsuits filed by environmentalists and Native American tribes. There’s no way we can convert to renewable energy sources when proposed plants are blocked at every turn and kept tied up in court until they are no longer economically feasible.

2SoonOld2LateSmart
January 26, 2011 11:18 pm

Flying cars. They said we would have flying cars by now.
(back in 1955)

January 26, 2011 11:21 pm

OMG! President Obama is for “clean coal” and other energy systems, like nuclear, et cetera! OMG! Obama must now be a denier, funded by Big Coal which is in bed with Big Oil!
No shock to the skeptics, (they have been accused of being funded like that for over a decade), who have known for over a decade that Big Oil has been huge supporters of carbon trading schemes and Al Gore since the inception of the CAGW alarmist scare.
But now, what will the CAGWs do, when their glorious messiah in the White House has gone over to the dark side, and is pushing for Big Coal and Big Nuke (part of the Big Energy companies) to solve the world’s energy crisis?
At a minimum, George Moonbeam must write a columns denouncing Obama and how he has sold out and become a DENIER!

January 26, 2011 11:42 pm

I would love to see the moment all commuters come home from a hard day’s work and plug in their electric vehicles for a recharge in the summer.
That’s the moment when you can see the electric grid from space, a beautiful red glowing line stretched across the country. Pity i’ll only last for less then a second when all the fuses blow, transformers blow up, lines melt.
There’s no way no how we are going to be able to distribute the equivalent of energy contained in hydrocarbons used for transport through existing grid technology.
But hey, don’t let reality stand in the way of your lofty ideals.

Al Gored
January 26, 2011 11:42 pm

Meanwhile…
26 Jan, 2011, 12.47PM IST,PTI
China to build 10 more mega nuclear reactors
“BEIJING: China will construct 10 more mega nuclear reactors with a whopping investment of USD 121.5 billion, in addition to 25 currently being built, to step up its atomic power generation to meet its rising energy demands.
China is expected to raise its 2020 target for the nuclear power industry to 86 GW or 5 per cent of its power generation with an annual investment of 70 billion Yuan (USD 10.6 billion), state run China Daily reported today.
To reach the capacity China will build 10 more nuclear power projects during the 12th Five-Year Plan (2011-2015), Zhang Guobao, former director of the National Energy Administration said.”
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics/nation/china-to-build-10-more-mega-nuclear-rectors/articleshow/7365901.cms

Carlyle
January 26, 2011 11:50 pm

The garbage we are fed about alternative energy that so many actually believe, is the result I believe, of the appallingly bad education system in western countries. Trying to argue a point on the basis of science has become near impossible because of the corruption of the scientific process where social engineering carries much more weight than facts. Results of scientific research are distorted, even disparaged by their discoverers if they do not fit the required template. A researcher can go to the Arctic or Antarctic, see an iceberg & report the next day that it is the result of global warming. It will be widely reported as fact.
A couple of years ago some researchers were stunned to discover living trees gave off significant quantities of methane gas. See http://www.rsc.org/chemistryworld/News/2006/January/12010601.asp
They immediately cast aspersions on their own discovery for fear of the consequences.
As far as I am aware, very little follow up research has been done. What government body would fund such a Green destroying proposition? True research is fearless.
Back to education. How can you debate a scientific or mathematical proposition with a populace so poorly educated in these fields or even in logic? For example the proponents of solar towers storing thermal energy in molten salt to generate overnight power production without having any comprehension of thermal losses in such a system let alone any comprehension of the Carnot cycle.
We still must fight the idiocy however.

Myrrh
January 26, 2011 11:57 pm

Where do I go to get a grant to work on my design for an electric car powered by a windmill on the roof?

Al Gored
January 27, 2011 12:06 am

Your tax dollars at work. Not sure how many of these are electric.
“NEW DELHI: General Motors’ India unit said on Thursday it planned to source $1 billion worth of auto parts from India over the next two years.
General Motors expects its India plant in western state of Gujarat to have more than 100,000 unit production capacity in the next few months, the company said in a statement.”
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/news-by-industry/auto/auto-components/gm-india-unit-says-to-source-1-bn-auto-parts/articleshow/7370601.cms

jamie
January 27, 2011 1:17 am

“The actual footprint required by wind turbines to power half the world’s energy is less than the area of Manhattan.”
From Wiki:
The Roscoe Wind Farm in Roscoe, Texas is the world’s largest wind farm (as of October 2009) with 627 wind turbines and a total installed capacity of 781.5 MW……. and covers nearly 100,000 acres (400 km2), several times the size of Manhattan.
So 781.5 MW will meet half the worlds electricity demand! All we need is a “super grid” to connect Roscoe, Texas to the rest of the world.

Mike Haseler
January 27, 2011 1:20 am

Anthony, unfortunately, this has been an effective tactic by the wind industry in Europe and given the huge financial backing these guys have you ignore it at your peril.
Basically the scheme works like this:
1. The government pass a law setting a small increase in electricity price … which isn’t a tax because its only an increase in the price of electricity, which is set via a “free” market mechanism, so it isn’t technically a tax, even if it looks like a tax, smells like a tax, etc.
2. Politicians are then offered numerous photo opportunities to pose in front of bird mincersrenewably green photonically white heat of high technology natural air velocity turbines. (aka windmills painted white)
3. The politicians are then encouraged to enter a “we can be greener (as in naive) than anyone else and set a higher tax obligation target.
4. The emperors are then encouraged to walk down the street imagining that the world will be impressed by their new clothes.

Peter Walsh
January 27, 2011 1:22 am

“by 2035, 80% of America’s electricity will come from clean energy sources”
That will coincide then with all the glaciers in the Himalayas melting?
It’s going to be a very eventful year by the looks of things.

Mike Haseler
January 27, 2011 1:34 am

2SoonOld2LateSmart says: January 26, 2011 at 11:18 pm
“Flying cars. They said we would have flying cars by now.
(back in 1955)”

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John Marshall
January 27, 2011 1:40 am

Only if America reduces energy use by 80% will this happen.

Roger Knights
January 27, 2011 1:56 am

Newt Love says:
January 26, 2011 at 11:21 pm
OMG! President Obama is for “clean coal” and other energy systems, like nuclear, et cetera! OMG! Obama must now be a denier, funded by Big Coal which is in bed with Big Oil!

He’s trying to get his green funding through by means of traditional political “horse-trading.” I.e., he’ll let the Republicans get some nuclear, natural gas, and coal green-lighted in exchange for their consenting to fund various green projects and regulations. I’m sure most of the upper-level strategists in green organizations realize now that this is the best deal they can get and that Obama is the best salesman they have.

Layne Blanchard
January 27, 2011 2:18 am

Ahhhhh, Pretendident O’Sputternik! It’s got a nice ring.
A simple moratorium on environmentally based obstructionism wouldn’t cost anything. The decision to facilitate, rather than obstruct development in every way is so blatantly obvious only a Sputternik could miss it. We already have environmental law. We could even back it down a bit until we get back on our feet. Was the entire USA a putrid cesspool of toxic waste in 1990? Hardly.
The Fed owns a lot of land. This is a gigantic resource the use of which wouldn’t bankrupt our kids. Bring your ALL NEW factory plan to Greenfield USA and enjoy a nearly cost free 60 year lease, a combined fed/state/local tax burden of 7.5% for your factory, guaranteed for 30 years, a right to work zone, with greatly simplified Environmental impact requirements, and shelter from zealots thru-out your development. Refineries, Power Plants, Fab and Assembly Factories, distribution hubs, Transportation and mining.
With Japan’s recent reduction, the USA now has the world’s highest corporate tax burden. Cut it in half for all, two thirds for target projects. INVITE manufacturing to come back for a change.
Raping the planet? Psychobabble for the deranged. The old girl doesn’t even know we’re here.