Heated Climate Change Politics in the UK

Here’s a collection of excerpts and links from the UK. The ones at the very end are quite telling. h/t to Benny Peiser of the GWPF for their newsletter. – Anthony

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MPs Slam ‘Secretive’ Climategate Probes

Two inquiries into claims that scientists manipulated data about global warming were yesterday condemned by MPs as ineffective and too secretive. MPs on the Science and Technology Committee have now concluded that both probes into the scandal had failed to “fully investigate” claims that scientists had deleted embarrassing emails. –John Ingham, Daily Express, 25 January 2011

Graham Stringer, a Labour MP on the Committee, said there are questions over how the scientists chose the figures they used to back up the case for global warming. He said the ‘missing email’ may refer to how researchers tried to further influence how their science is accepted by the scientific community. He said both reports had failed to answer these questions.  “It is not a whitewash, it is the establishment looking after their own. They are not looking hard enough at what went wrong.” — Louise Gray, The Daily Telegraph, 25 January 2011

The release of the e-mails from CRU at the University of East Anglia and the accusations that followed demanded independent and objective scrutiny by independent panels. This has not happened. No reputable scientist who was critical of CRU’s work was on the panel, and prominent and distinguished critics were not interviewed. The Oxburgh panel did not do as our predecessor committee had been promised, investigate the science, but only looked at the integrity of the researchers. This leaves a question mark against whether CRU science is reliable. We are now left after three investigations without a clear understanding of whether or not the CRU science is compromised.—Graham Stringer, MP, Member of the Science and Technology Committee, 17 January 2011

Mr Stringer is saying what many critical observers think. The inquiries were inept, biased and have not closed this affair. The MPs’ report says we should move on but you cannot if you have unfinished business.—Benny Peiser, Daily Express, 25 January 2011

“We find it unsatisfactory that we are left with a verbal reassurance from the vice-chancellor [of UEA] that the emails still exist,” the committee says.

The Russell panel was also remiss for not holding its evidence sessions in public and for allowing UEA to read its report before it was published – a move that left the inquiry open to allegations that it was not sufficiently independent.

The committee calls on researchers to release “sufficient detail of computer programs, specific methodology or techniques used” to allow others to check their analysis of data. This will “help guard against not only scientific fraud but also the spread of misinformation and unsustainable allegations”.

The Information Commissioner’s Office should also release “clear guidance” on how FoI legislation should be applied to scientific research by the start of the next academic year.

But the committee endorses the UEA reports’ “clear and sensible” recommendations. “It is time to make the changes and improvements recommended and, with greater openness and transparency, move on,” the committee concludes. Paul Jump, Times Higher Education, 25 January 2011

How Two Tory MPs Saved CRU

Bishop Hill, 25 January 2011

In the formal minutes that appear at the end of the SciTech report, it is possible to read a paragraph that was proposed as an amendment by Graham Stringer. This is important:

“There are proposals to increase worldwide taxation by up to a trillion dollars on the basis of climate science predictions. This is an area where strong and opposing views are held. The release of the e-mails from CRU at the University of East Anglia and the accusations that followed demanded independent and objective scrutiny by independent panels. This has not happened.

The composition of the two panels has been criticised for having members who were over identified with the views of CRU. Lord Oxburgh as President of the Carbon Capture and Storage Association and Chairman of Falck Renewable appeared to have a conflict of interest. Lord Oxburgh himself was aware that this might lead to criticism. Similarly Professor Boulton as an ex colleague of CRU seemed wholly inappropriate to be a member of the Russell panel.

No reputable scientist who was critical of CRU’s work was on the panel, and prominent and distinguished critics were not interviewed. The Oxburgh panel did not do as our predecessor committee had been promised, investigate the science, but only looked at the integrity of the researchers. With the exception of Professor Kelly’s notes other notes taken by members of the panel have not been published. This leaves a question mark against whether CRU science is reliable. The Oxburgh panel also did not look at CRU’s controversial work on the IPPC which is what has attracted most [serious] allegations. Russell did not investigate the deletion of e-mails. We are now left after three investigations without a clear understanding of whether or not the CRU science is compromised.”

This was voted down by the Tories Stephen Mosley and Stephen Metcalfe and the Labour MP, Gregg McClymont.

In other news:

Totally Uncool: Young Britons Least Concerned About Global Warming –

The survey revealed that young people were least concerned about climate change which came last in the average rating of issues, with one in four rating it as the “least important” and 7.1% saying it was the most important issue for them. Only 12% of all respondents believed they had been “adversely affected” by climate change in 2010.

Media Trust, 14 January 2011

Peter Sissons: ‘The BBC Has Completely Lost It’ –

The BBC became a propaganda machine for climate change zealots, says Peter Sissons… and I was treated as a lunatic for daring to dissent.

This attitude was underlined a year later in another statement: ‘BBC News currently takes the view that their reporting needs to be calibrated to take into account the scientific consensus that global warming is man-made.’ Those scientists outside the ‘consensus’ waited in vain for the phone to ring.

It’s the lack of simple curiosity about one of the great issues of our time that I find so puzzling about the BBC. When the topic first came to ­prominence, the first thing I did was trawl the internet to find out as much as possible about it.

Anyone who does this with a mind not closed by religious fervour will find a mass of material by respectable scientists who question the orthodoxy. Admittedly, they are in the minority, but scepticism should be the natural instinct of scientists — and the default setting of journalists.

Yet the cream of the BBC’s inquisitors during my time there never laid a glove on those who repeated the ­mantra that ‘the science is settled’. On one occasion, an MP used BBC airtime to link climate change ­doubters with perverts and holocaust deniers, and his famous interviewer didn’t bat an eyelid.

Meanwhile, Al Gore, the former U.S. Vice-President and climate change campaigner, entertained the BBC’s editorial elite in his suite at the Dorchester and was given a free run to make his case to an admiring internal audience at Television Centre.

His views were never subjected to journalistic scrutiny, even when a British High Court judge ruled that his film, An Inconvenient Truth, ­contained at least nine scientific errors, and that ministers must send new guidance to teachers before it was screened in schools. From the BBC’s standpoint, the judgment was the real inconvenience, and its ­environment correspondents downplayed its significance.

Daily Mail 25 January 2011

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Douglas DC

Re: the Polar bear on Thames picture,I saw that I thought: “I’d heard it had been
cod in England but this is ridiculous..” The real reason even more…

Douglas DC

“COLD” darn it….

Vince Causey

In the words of that old song, I can’t get no satisfaction. Well, not from the 3 squeaky clean CRU ‘enquiries’ anyway. It was inevitable that global warming propagandists would seize on this to draw a line under climategate, which they did with gusto. Now, as many sceptics have been saying all along, the enquiries did nothing to address the serious allegations, contenting themselves to tiptoe around the issues and reinvent their scope. Now the truth is beginning to dawn on some influential people, I look forward to at long last, getting some ‘satisfaction.’

Jeff K

The free lunch doesn’t last forever, the masses will eventually concur-at first with silence, a raised eyebrow, maybe pushing away that glass of kool aid- that the king has no clothes on. Every gravy train comes to a stop eventually. What’s ironic is that this hoax would have gone on so much longer if these shucksters didn’t act like five-year-olds every time somebody attempted to take their lollypop out of their mouths.

Phillip Bratby

Peter Sissons has great respect. His views on the BBC are mind-blowing. But we all knew how biased the Grauniad-reading BBC is.

KnockJohn

It is pleasing, however, that following the lifting of the embargo on the report of the Science and Technology group, that the msm is reporting it somewhat more readilythan they did the initial Climategate email release.

Jit

Douglas DC:
Yeh, no cod left in England. Fished them out years back.
Regarding the BBC. Living in Blighty, I can attest that the BBC coverage of climate change is highly partisan (they are accused of being infested with lefty liberals, not sure if there is a connection). I don’t know what to think about AGW, but I am sure I can’t trust the BBC to find the truth.
If I had a pound for every time a reporter had said something along the lines of “this is just the sort of extreme event we would expect under climate change” I’d have… well, at least a tenner.
They accept it without thinking. It might be true. I don’t know. But I expect a higher class of investigation from the organisation all brits pay for.

Mike Haseler

Now is the time to
1.Make a complaint to the BBC regarding the bias (http://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/homepage/) … no not later now!
2. Write to your MP … nothing fancy … just write (http://www.parliament.uk/about/contacting/mp/)
3. Having written to the BBC and MP, sit back with a glass of scot’s whisky and wait for the fun!

Mike

Stringer: “No reputable scientist who was critical of CRU’s work was on the panel, …”
Um, if you want an independent panel you would not include people hostel to the CRU, or who were too close to the CRU.
Stringer: “…and prominent and distinguished critics were not interviewed.”
They were investigating the e-mails, not surveying the ‘skeptical’ blog-sphere.
When it comes down to it, the ‘skeptics’ still have not found evidence of wrong doing and the world’s climate and oceans continue to change. Maybe you can send FOIA’s to the ice caps and coral reefs – wait, they don’t use e-mail.

Stefan

Wasn’t there a story that the BBC was investing its pension funds in climate change related businesses or something? I don’t know if it was just a rumour or whether it had been researched properly.

James Sexton

Hold them to the fire, boys! Keep up the good work!

Mike says:
“Um, if you want an independent panel you would not include people hostel [sic] to the CRU, or who were too close to the CRU.”
Um, Mike, you would include critics if you wanted the truth.
And your ridiculous claim that there was no evidence of wrongdoing in the emails is easily refuted. Click on the “Climategate” tab. Pretend you’re an IRS agent.

Will Acton, Davies, and Jones resign in their disgrace?

Stefan, you are correct.

Bryan

Mike says:
…..”Um, if you want an independent panel you would not include people hostel to the CRU, or who were too close to the CRU.”………
However Mike, I suppose its perfectly fair to have it chaired by Lord Oxburgh, as President of the Carbon Capture and Storage Association and Chairman of Falck Renewable such fine gentlemen would not allow grubby finance to influence them one jot.

Can you please, please, please also add a link to the following:
Tradeable Energy Quotas
^ Sorry to keep mentioning it. However, this is as far as I’m concerned, the most important story for the UK of the month, but it is getting almost no coverage (the only mention I’ve seen is in the Daily Express, and most people would just dismiss it as a result).
I can’t overstate the seriousness of the fact that a parliamentary committee is considering energy rationing as a viable policy.
[Reply: This request should go in Tips & Notes. ~dbs, mod.]

sHx

“Heated Climate Change Politics in the UK”
That is precisely it.
UK-based media and blogs are having convulsions. The competing sides act triumphant and demoralised in succession. Even the otherwise most reserved good Bishop of the Hill is coming down hard on the disruption in the comments.
Reports from the combat zone strongly suggests that when the dust settles CAGW skeptics will emerge victorious.

Viv Evans

Here is the link to the notes of Prof Kelly (CRU ‘review’), which Graham stringer submitted to the HoCSTC:
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm201011/cmselect/cmsctech/444/444vw11.htm
Prof Kelly notes his various – and imho very serious – concerns about the science, which, as all know, weren’t addressed. I found this one of great interest:
“(i) I take real exception to having simulation runs described as experiments (without at least the qualification of “computer” experiments). It does a disservice to centuries of real experimentation and allows simulations output to be considered as real data. This last is a very serious matter, as it can lead to the idea that real “real data” might be wrong simply because it disagrees with the models! That is turning centuries of science on its head.”
No wonder the CRU Whitewash Committee was more concerned about the personal honesty of the CRU scientists rather than dealing with their science …
(His other notes in that link are also well worth reading)

jeanparisot

At what point does some prosecutor dust off the British laws regarding stock manipulation?

James Evans

What a great set of links. Kudos to MP Stringer and Mr Sissons!

Vince Causey

Mike says:
…..”Um, if you want an independent panel you would not include people hostel [sic] to the CRU, or who were too close to the CRU.”………
And of course, the panel get to choose who’s ‘hostile.’ After Steve McIntyre filed an FOI request, Jones proudly crowed in one of his emails, how after a couple of hours he convinced the FOI administrator ‘what type of person we are dealing with.’ Yeah Mike – can’t have ‘hostiles’ like Steve McIntyre upsetting the apple card.

nc

That polar bear riding an ice flow on the Thames, is that not proof of global cooling. I mean an image like that was used to show warming in the Arctic.
Mike are you new to the debate?

Robinson

UK-based media and blogs are having convulsions. The competing sides act triumphant and demoralised in succession. Even the otherwise most reserved good Bishop of the Hill is coming down hard on the disruption in the comments.

I was quite annoyed at yesterday’s Horizon, writing a letter to the BBC as a consequence (not the kind of thing I generally do). I’m sure I’m not alone in having this vague sense of irritation today, likely reflected in the comments I’m making at various favourite hang-outs. Judith Curry’s do-gooding is also becoming somewhat annoying. The two sides don’t need counselling; one side needs to just stop making stuff up.

Dr T G Watkins

Mike Haseler:- Complaint to BBC re. Horizon’s scandalous attack on cAGW dissenters, lack of scientific content and extraordinary bias already sent, although how much good it will do is a moot point. I demanded a similar programme presented by a well respected scientist who has an open mind and will look at the facts.
Paul Nurse has further demeaned the Nobel Prize and he clearly has not made any attempt himself to ‘research’ the subject. He will be very red-faced in the years to come.
Graham Stringer should be congratulated for his attempt to open this can of worms. I really hoped Nurse as the new president of the Royal Society would bring some reason and debate to the climate question but he is even worse, if possible, than Martin Rees.

Doug uk

Mike – you say:-
January 25, 2011 at 9:49 am
Stringer: “No reputable scientist who was critical of CRU’s work was on the panel, …”
Um, if you want an independent panel you would not include people hostel to the CRU, or who were too close to the CRU.
SO WHY WERE THE “INVESTIGATORS” SELECTED THAT HAD SUCH CLOSE LINKS ?
Stringer: “…and prominent and distinguished critics were not interviewed.”
They were investigating the e-mails, not surveying the ‘skeptical’ blog-sphere.
NO – THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE INVESTIGATING THE MANIPULATION OF THE SCIENTIFIC PROCESS AS EXEMPLIFIED BY THE EMAILS – A CASE PROVED INCIDENTLY.
When it comes down to it, the ‘skeptics’ still have not found evidence of wrong doing and the world’s climate and oceans continue to change.
YES THEY DID FIND CLEAR EVIDENCE OF WRONG DOING REGARDS THE IGNORING OF VALID FoI REQUESTS – IN FACT THE INFORMATION COMMISSIONER IDENTIFIED THIS BREACH BUT THEY GOT AWAY WITH IT BECAUSE THE LAW IN THE UK IS WRITTEN WITH A 6 MONTH MORETORIUM ON FoI REQUESTS SUCH THAT THE UoEA/CRU COULD IGNORE THE VALID REQUESTS AND SO BRAKE THE LAW BUT THEY COULD NOT BE PROSECUTED IF THEY IGNORED THE REQUEST FOR MORE THAN 6 MONTHS!
THE INFORMATION COMMISSIONER HAS CALLED FOR THE LAW TO BE CHANGED.
Maybe you can send FOIA’s to the ice caps and coral reefs – wait, they don’t use e-mail.
THEY COULD JUST WAIT 6 MONTHS WITH FINGERS IN EARS OR OTHER SUITABLE SENSORY ORGAN WHILST SINGING “LA LA LA LA LA LA”
THAT WOULD WORK FOR A WHILE. – BUT NOT FOR LONG – ACCEPT IT – THE GENIE IS OUT OF THE BOTTLE – THE WARMISTS HAVE LOST ALL CONTROL AND WHAT LITTLE CREDIBILITY THEY HAD LEFT.

James Evans

P.S. I never gave two thoughts to Mr Sissons before, but he has just become a hero of mine. 🙂 Given that a news journo must have to keep up to date on a billion different issues, I am well impressed by the fact that he had obviously looked into Global Warming in some depth. It’s impressive that he actually want to journalistically investigate the subject. It seems to make him almost unique.

Chris Reeve

Re: “It’s the lack of simple curiosity about one of the great issues of our time that I find so puzzling about the BBC. When the topic first came to ­prominence, the first thing I did was trawl the internet to find out as much as possible about it.
Anyone who does this with a mind not closed by religious fervour will find a mass of material by respectable scientists who question the orthodoxy. Admittedly, they are in the minority, but scepticism should be the natural instinct of scientists — and the default setting of journalists.”
Climate science is the tip of the iceberg for laziness in science journalism. Show me an independent science journalist who publishes in the American mainstream. They simply do not exist.
Science journalists have come to see their role as a conveyor belt for information. They think that their job is nothing more than to formulate grammatically correct sentences. Where controversies exist beneath the superficial scientific consensus, science journalists jump at the opportunity to ignore them. They continue to accept the antiquated notion that scientific progress is a paved road. They continue to ignore glaring issues with regards to philosophy of science, and they treat the mystery of space as an opportunity to wonder at the glory of space.
How many times have we seen headlines on physorg or space.com about how some complex cosmological question has finally been solved? They appear to not realize that the solution involves a universe with only 4 or 5% baryonic matter, and solar models which lack much in the way of predictive capabilities.
The science journalists have successfully set the public’s expectations at levels low enough to stall the out-of-the-box, multidisciplinary critical thinking necessary to solve the greatest technical problems mankind has ever attempted.
Real scientists and theorists do not wonder at the mystery of space. They worry that their models and theories might be wrong. Science journalists today are constantly reporting on last decade’s controversy (such as the battle between religion and science). They will read reviews to check if they want to go see a movie this weekend, but they refuse to interview scientific critics. And this leads the public to imagine that all scientists are in agreement.
When people look back on this era, they will place much of the blame for scientific stagnation and misuse of public funds on these “journalists”.

sHx

If you have to read only one article today from the recent heated debate in the UK, it has to be Peter Sissons’ account of his time at the BBC. It is an excerpt from his upcoming book that will prove popular and controversial especially with regard to BBC’s Climate Change reporting.
In the article, Sissons relates again how the mighty Roger Harrabin was bullied into toeing the line by an activist, and he adds his own experience:

The sense of entitlement with which green groups regard the BBC was brought home to me when what was billed as a major climate change rally was held in London on a ­miserable, wintry, wet day.
I was on duty on News 24 and it had been arranged for me to ­interview the leader of the Green Party, Caroline Lucas. She clearly expected, as do most environmental activists, what I call a ‘free hit’ — to be allowed to say her piece without challenge.
I began, good naturedly, by observing that the climate didn’t seem to be playing ball at the moment, and that we were having a particularly cold winter while carbon emissions were powering ahead.
Miss Lucas reacted as if I’d ­physically molested her. She was outraged. It was no job of the BBC — the BBC! — to ask questions like that. Didn’t I realise that there could be no argument over the science?
I persisted with a few simple observations of fact, such as there appeared to have been no warming for ten years, in contradiction of all the alarmist computer models.
A listener from one of the sceptical climate-change websites noted that ‘Lucas was virtually apoplectic and demanding to know how the BBC could be making such ­comments. Sissons came back that his role as a journalist was always to review all sides. Lucas finished with a veiled warning, to which Sissons replied with an “Ooh!”’
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1350206/BBC-propaganda-machine-climate-change-says-Peter-Sissons.html#ixzz1C4ZVS2ia

Incidentally, I got curious about the last paragraph and did a little digging on the web. I could not locate a video of the interview between Sissons and Lucas
But I found the observation of the “listener from one of the sceptical climate-change website” that Sissons mentions in the last paragraph. It is right under our feet:

Mick J says:
December 6, 2008 at 7:21 am

Today I watched an interview on the BBC News channel here in the UK where a leading Green campaigner was challenged by a BBC correspondent as to the veracity of Anthropogenic Climate Change, I was floored by this novel and totally unexpected treatment from a BBC correspondent. Below is recollection rather than a verbatim report.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/12/05/satellite-derived-sea-level-updated-trend-has-been-shrinking-since-2005/#comment-61641

While the BBC and its community is dazed and confused, Peter Sissons, Mick J, Anthony Watts and the WUWT community takes a bow.

It’s worth demonstrating the exact alterations whereby Stringer’s essential words were left out. Italics are the words of the final, official text that replace Stringer’s deleted words. Highlights are my own.
98. The disclosure of data from the Climatic Research Unit has been a traumatic and challenging experience for all involved and to the wider world of science. There are proposals to increase worldwide taxation by up to a trillion dollars on the basis of climate science predictions. Much rests on the accuracy and integrity of climate science. This is an area where strong and opposing views are held. The release of the e-mails from CRU at the University of East Anglia and the accusations that followed demanded independent and objective scrutiny by independent panels. This has not happened. The composition of the two panels has been criticised for having members who were over identified with the views of CRU. Lord Oxburgh as President of the Carbon Capture and Storage Association and Chairman of Falck Renewable appeared to have a conflict of interest. Lord Oxburgh himself was aware that this might lead to criticism. Similarly Professor Boulton as an ex colleague of CRU seemed wholly inappropriate to be a member of the Russell panel. No reputable scientist who was critical of CRU’s work was on the panel, and prominent and distinguished critics were not interviewed. The Oxburgh panel did not do as our predecessor committee had been promised, investigate the science, but only looked at the integrity of the researchers. With the exception of Professor Kelly’s notes other notes taken by members of the panel have not been published. This leaves a question mark against whether CRU science is reliable. The Oxburgh panel also did not look at CRU’s controversial work on the IPPC which is what has attracted most series allegations. Russell did not investigate the deletion of e-mails. We are now left after three investigations without a clear understanding of whether or not the CRU science is compromised.” It is, however, important to bear in mind the considered view of the Government Chief Scientific Adviser, Professor Sir John Beddington, that “the general issues on overall global temperature, on sea level and so on, are all pretty unequivocal”.132 While we do have some reservations about the way in which UEA operated, the SAP review and the ICCER set out clear and sensible recommendations.In our view it is time to make the changes and improvements recommended and with greater openness and transparency move on.
FYI here is my article on rural temperature records that makes nonsense of the above claim that “the general issues on overall global temperature… are all pretty unequivocal”

Ben G

“When it comes down to it, the ‘skeptics’ still have not found evidence of wrong doing and the world’s climate and oceans continue to change”
Blimey – and they call us the deniers…

KD

Mike says:
January 25, 2011 at 9:49 am
They were investigating the e-mails, not surveying the ‘skeptical’ blog-sphere.
______________
Um, if “they were invetigating the emails”, then why didn’t they do a thorough analysis and report on the subject of the deleted emails? Why did they not demand proof that no emails had been deleted?

Ben G

“Wasn’t there a story that the BBC was investing its pension funds in climate change related businesses or something? I don’t know if it was just a rumour or whether it had been researched properly.”
Not a rumour but fact. The Beeb has millions of its pension pot invested in eco funds.

Dave

I hope you’ll excuse me for not being exuberant over this news… I’ll defer my enthusiastic response until more MPs climb onboard this train.

Scarface

@Mike (January 25, 2011 at 9:49 am)
You write: “When it comes down to it, the ‘skeptics’ still have not found evidence of wrong doing”
Say what????
http://www.lavoisier.com.au/articles/greenhouse-science/climate-change/climategate-emails.pdf
Take the time to read this and then try to repeat what you just wrote without laughing.

UK MPs – some at least – are at last beginning to move!
This is the year to seize the time and sharpen the debate and defeat the GW anti-science cult. Usefully the Chancellor blamed the weather in December for poor economic figures. It is now clear that the Met Office all along had been saying mild (until it actually was very cold); however the Chancellor hasn’t yet come to us – WeatherAction – for advice!
The contribution by Graham Stringer MP – a scientist – is excellent. He gave a superb presentation at a fringe meeting we (Climate Sense/ClimateRealists/WeatherAction) held at the Labour Party Conference last Autumn and Sammy Wilson MP gave an excellent Report at our Climate Fools Day meeting in The Houses of Parliament on Oct 27th – Report on home page http://www.weatheraction.com
For the need to sharpen not compromise in the debate see (was via twitter) ‘Climate Debate should be made MORE POLARIZED not less…’ – comment under Australia thread http://bit.ly/enVLJq

Vorlath

“It is not a whitewash, it is the establishment looking after their own. They are not looking hard enough at what went wrong.”
How is that not a whitewash?

M White

Science Under Attack
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00y4yql
“Nobel Prize winner Sir Paul Nurse examines why science appears to be under attack, and why public trust in key scientific theories has been eroded – from the theory that man-made climate change is warming our planet, to the safety of GM food, or that HIV causes AIDS.”

Pat Frank

Lucy, why aren’t you writing up your stuff for publication?
The comments left by climate scientist EFS_Junior in other threads demonstrate that, with your quality work, you’d be an outstanding luminary in the field.

Luther Wu

Fox, investigate hen house.

TonyK

Why oh why was Peter Sissons not given the job of hosting that ‘Horizon’ program? Oh, right – he might have asked Phil Jones and the rest some awkward questions and we can’t have that on the BBC can we?

Bernie

Vorlath:
My thoughts exactly.

SandyInDerby

Douglas DC says:
“I’d heard it had been cod in England but this is ridiculous..”
That’s a whole different can of worms over here. Bureaucracy gone mad, probably the same people who are now self appointed Climate Guardians.
See
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread650562/pg1
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/7103363.stm
http://conversation.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/will-you-join-hugh-fearnley-whittingstalls-fish-fight/
and it’s been going on for years.

Kate

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What I find interesting is that if you click on the polar bear picture and read the article there are no comments zip, nada, zero hmmmmmmmm things might be changing for the better.

Jack

Incredibly, it is the alarmists that are trying to fix the climate at a specific temperature and time. They contradict themselves by saying each weather event is extreme and proof of catastrophe, even when the proof – such as previous floods in Queensland were higher. So why are they using massive taxation to fix this particular temperature range when they tell you it is a catastrophic range.
The dead give away was right from the start when they started saying, ” the science is in”. In what? And of course proclaiming consensus when millions of people know Einstein’s(?) famous statement about only needing one fact to refute general opinion.
Other pea and thimble tricks are to say the troposphere would warm first and fastest as definitive proof. When that was found not to be true, they blamed the radiosondes, thousands of them, for not conforming to the computer modeling.
Similar to ocean temperatures, they were supposed to be warming but in fact thousands of individual measurements showed this not be true, so they blamed the measuring devices.
There are many more of these pea and thimble tricks, not excluding adopting post normal science where you can decide by gut feel what the result should be and alter the data to fit. Hundreds of years of scientific method thrown out, of which the very essence is replicability of the experiment. These people refuse to release their data so the same results can be achieved independently and therefore gain gravitas.
These people are contemptible.

MattN

Sounds like the very definition of whitewash to me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitewash_(censorship)
“To whitewash is to gloss over or cover up vices, crimes or scandals or to exonerate by means of a perfunctory investigation or through biased presentation of data.[1] It is especially used in the context of corporations, governments or other organizations.”

Douglas DC says:
January 25, 2011 at 9:12 am
……cod in England

Douglas DC says:
January 25, 2011 at 9:13 am
“COLD” darn it….

Maybe you just have a “cod” in your sinuses? 😉

Mike says:
January 25, 2011 at 9:49 am
Stringer: “No reputable scientist who was critical of CRU’s work was on the panel, …”
Um, if you want an independent panel you would not include people hostel to the CRU, or who were too close to the CRU.

Only those defending a faith equate “critical” (involving skillful judgment as to truth, merit, etc) with “hostile”.

RichieP

Katabasis says:
January 25, 2011 at 10:17 am
‘ Sorry to keep mentioning it. However, this is as far as I’m concerned, the most important story for the UK of the month, but it is getting almost no coverage (the only mention I’ve seen is in the Daily Express, and most people would just dismiss it as a result).
I can’t overstate the seriousness of the fact that a parliamentary committee is considering energy rationing as a viable policy.
[Reply: This request should go in Tips & Notes. ~dbs, mod.]’
Mods (dbs?) – with respect, this is highly relevant here as it certainly fits with the title of the thread and is the most egregious demonstration of what’s in store for us in the UK if we’re not very careful. The introduction of such a charge upon us would be similar to the poll tax in Thatcher’s time, only much much worse. It would lead directly to increased deaths from hypothermia (amongst many other problems), to the constriction of vast areas of people’s lives, in a vast and comprehensive form of central government control. Who needs ID cards when everyone, count ’em, could be controlled in the minutest detail by way of energy credits? And how much corruption would there be? And who will assess it all? Do we trust them? (/sarc on the latter)
[In your last post you made a request for a link to be added. Requests should go in Tips & Notes so Anthony is sure to see them. ~dbs]

Mycroft

Well it seems the Labour MP Gregg McClymont who voted Graham Stringer down on his amendment has an interest in carbon emissions,climate change,don’t know in what context though.
Strange he should vote something down you’re interested in ??
See Hear under topics of interest
http://www.theyworkforyou.com/mp/gregg_mcclymont/cumbernauld,_kilsyth_and_kirkintilloch_east