Friday Funny

Josh from Cartoons by Josh writes:

Following on from an earlier cartoon “What the Greens got wrong”

this is about the plans for the next thing on the green agenda – not

sure what it will be but no doubt we shale see soon enough.

Ok, I know, a terrible joke.

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nuts
January 21, 2011 9:24 am

The original question was “the next thing on the green agenda”? How about these gems to be discussed at an upcoming webinar by EPA Region 10 and “designed to provide you with the information and resources you need to reduce GHG emissions and create more sustainable patterns of consumption in your community.”
TOPICS include:
· Intro: Unsustainable Consumption
· The Connection to Climate Change
· Your Eco Footprint & Downsizing Your Consumption
· Psychology Of Overconsumption
· Influencing Behavior Change
· Reducing Consumption to Improve Quality of Life and Happiness
· The Economics of Consumption
· Consumption, Advertising and the Creation of Desire
· Food: Why we eat too much and waste too much.
· Designing Communities and transportation to Reduce Our Carbon
Footprint and Recreate Community
· Changing Industry & the Morality of Editing Consumer Choice
My personal favorite are the 4th, 5th and 6th bullet items –
p.s. I think they forgot one topic – how about “Climate Distruption, your Carbon Footprint and the Morality of having children”
This stuff passes for intellectual discourse and is going on all the time.

wobble
January 21, 2011 9:33 am

Jeff L says:
January 21, 2011 at 5:41 am
Anyone who knows anything about fracing will tell you that the concept of groundwater contamination by fracing is simply absurd. Fracs are designed to stay in zone. If a frac goes more than 100 ft out of zone, that would be considered a failure. but to contaminate an aquifer, it would need to go many thousands of feet out of zone. It just doesnt happen. Wellbores are cased with engineered steel & cemented into the ground to prevent communication between aquifers & hydrocarbon bearing zones. There are generally thousands of feet of impermeable beds between target zones & groundwater aquifers. Again, it justy doesn’t happen & that is both by design & by nature.

I agree with your assessment. I’ve always thought that most of the people complaining that their water supply was effected by a frac had contaminated water before the frac was performed.
I’m hearing that PA is now testing water before and after frac jobs. They are finding that many private wells are contaminated before and are unaffected by the frac. We might see concerns settled after a short period of time.

nc
January 21, 2011 9:50 am

PJB I am not sure but I hope you are being sarcastic about using a hollywood film for information.
Cassandra I happen to like Big Macs, but then my wife says I drool when a garbage truck goes by.

D. King
January 21, 2011 9:55 am

Might be funnier with a CFL over his head.
Josh could make it the new symbol for bad ideas.

pwl
January 21, 2011 10:39 am

Light bulbs… they got incandescent light bulbs wrong… replacing them with toxic mercury filled bulbs that can’t be smashed for fun. Sigh.

Ed Zuiderwijk
January 21, 2011 11:10 am

Isn’t the light bulb a bit out of place when we are being told to switch off the standby lights on equipment?

James Sexton
January 21, 2011 11:42 am

Well, obviously any source of energy extracted from the ground will be resisted by greenies, but, they’re coming after your water next.

TonyK
January 21, 2011 11:44 am

ecliptic says:
January 21, 2011 at 7:28 am
Here in Socialist Summit County Colorado my daughter told me a student was punished for doubting global warming
Good grief! They weren’t blown to bits surely? No pressure!

Mac the Knife
January 21, 2011 5:21 pm

That caption is ‘oil-right’ by me!

Mac the Knife
January 21, 2011 5:29 pm

Hey! Did Y’all see that California is considering banning all fishing along its entire coast? The justification, in part, is because of …. climate change!
http://www.breitbart.tv/california-planning-to-outlaw-fishing/
Look for the Marine Life Protection Act to come to a Cali-a-fornia state near you!

It's always Marcia, Marcia
January 21, 2011 6:58 pm

No bong?

January 21, 2011 8:16 pm

California is being sued by the greens to stop solar plant in california…too funny.
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/01/17/conservation-group-sues-stop-california-solar-plant/

George Lawson
January 22, 2011 3:06 am

Governments who have already introduced so many unnecessary laws that have held back economic progress and added huge costs to all our lives to placate the ever growing rantings of the Green movements should now take a step back and look at the damage the Greens are causing on the back of unfounded environmental scares. Even though the scare of global warming has been well and truly debunked by uncluttered science, there are still organisations who are prepared to give them a platform. In a serious discussion on BBC TV today on the negative influence of petrol price increases on the economy of the UK, airtime was given to a stupid environmentalist who strongly advocated increasing petrol prices more, in order to reduce the effects of ‘global warming’ on all our lives. ( They find it impossible to face the truth). Friends of the Earth, Green Peace, The World Widlife Fund and all their bearded and wooley hatted supporting ilk have done so much damage to our economy and general way of life through governments responding to their unfounded and unproven claims. No nuclear power stations, no coal fired power stations, more expensive windmills, more useles solar power, low power light bulbs in our homes (which closed many industries) landfill restrictions, to name but a few. They have all been proven to have been built on unfounded environmental scares. Even major oil spills, as bad as they are, have never proved to be the long time catastrophe the greens always forecast. Habitats and fish stocks have always been restored, while hundreds of volcanoes throughout history have spewed out their deadly toxic gasses with very little effect, if any, effect on the wider world. Nature is far more able to look after itself than man is. It is time we all ignored these silly so called environmentalists, many of whom have never contributed one iota to the economy of the world, and take advice from proper scientifically researched facts, that are not falsified to suit the green agenda. It’s time for action.

kadaka (KD Knoebel)
January 22, 2011 4:46 am

It’s always Marcia, Marcia said on January 21, 2011 at 6:58 pm:

No bong?

And contaminate water with thousands of toxic cancer-causing chemicals, like carbon dioxide?
Sure, it currently appears that carbon dioxide won’t by itself cause cancer, but we’ve never had atmospheric levels this high in recorded history before! Why take the risk?
Besides, there’s already been a casual link demonstrated between CO2 and cancer, as This Intrepid Blogger noted:
http://robertkyriakides.wordpress.com/2008/01/07/carbon-dioxide-in-the-air-cancer-and-death/
He cites the work of the esteemed Professor Mark Z Jacobson of Stanford University, which you know must be true:

In December 2007 Professor Jacobson published his findings which draw on many scientific sources as well as his own original research. He finds that (by modeling) increases in fossil fuel sourced carbon dioxide also increase the ozone levels on the surface of the planet. Ozone is a molecule that consists of there atoms of oxygen; high in the upper atmosphere it shields us from harmful ultraviolet light but at the surface of the earth it is generally thought to be very harmful to human respiratory systems because it harms your breathing apparatus.
He also found that carbon dioxide from fossil fuel increases the volume of carcinogens that we are likely to meet. Burning fossil fuel also (as we know) increases particulates. All this leads to more cancers, more deaths and more people ill in hospitals. In addition if you pump more carbon dioxide in the air, the air becomes more stable, making a better home for particulates which damage health.
He extrapolates that deaths increase with increased carbon dioxide levels and higher temperatures. It is difficult to be precise (and any headline figure will inevitably be misleading) but the effects of the carbon dioxide that we are pumping into the atmosphere are causing deaths which would not have been caused otherwise, quite apart from the deaths that are being caused by extreme climate events caused by increased temperatures. Those deaths are significant enough (every death is of course significant) in number to measure.

Quite Alarming! As the blogger concludes:

Well, if you needed another reason to stop burning fossil fuel you can find it in Professor Jacobson’s work.

Science Daily reported on it:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/02/080226135421.htm
I found the paper here:
On the causal link between carbon dioxide and air pollution mortality
http://www.fypower.org/pdf/Stanford_CO2_Jacobson.pdf
There’s a presentation based on it:
http://www.ametsoc.org/atmospolicy/documents/2008ESSS/ESSS51608/Jacobson51609.pdf
Peer Reviewed Proof! And as you can tell from the last link, the prestigious American Meteorological Society has archived the results thus you know it’s all Very Important and Exceptionally True.
Sure, that link between CO2 and (global warming; climate change; climatic disruption) got all the press until lately, but now the Greens have an opportunity to get back to this Important Upcoming Tragedy.
Anthropogenic Carbon Dioxide increases lead to Cancer.
Serious Business.
Yup, we might as well shut down all the fossil fuel based heating right now, then the Greens can start adding up the lives saved from cancer…

Dave Dodd
January 22, 2011 9:14 pm

The concept of the lightbulb over the head signifies a “flash” of insight — the only way a CFL flashes is when the damn thing explodes! (Yes they do; they sure DON”T like cold weather — BOOM!!)
They should be drawn in the explode mode!

Matt
January 23, 2011 12:44 am

The regular lightbulb actually works, remember that the Greenies aren’t restircting themselves away from those things in most cases, they just want it to apply to everyone but themselves. Look at Al Gore, flying in his private jet to talk about how everyone must cut back to save the planet. It would be funny if it weren’t true.

Dave Andrews
January 23, 2011 1:38 pm

Kadaka,
Doesn’t everything cause cancer eventually – I mean stick a couple of coins inside somebody’s skin for long enough and they’re likely to develop cancer. So lets ban money.
Moreover cancer is primarily a disease of ageing, so if we put a limit on how long people can live we will solve the problem.

kadaka (KD Knoebel)
January 23, 2011 9:56 pm

From Dave Andrews on January 23, 2011 at 1:38 pm:

Doesn’t everything cause cancer eventually – I mean stick a couple of coins inside somebody’s skin for long enough and they’re likely to develop cancer. So lets ban money.

Oh I agree. Despite all the talk about how great Nature is, how natural it all is, we actually live in a permanently-irritating toxic soup. Every bit of it will kill us in large quantities, and for “essential nutrients” like minerals the threshold for life-impairment is shockingly low.
As to banning money in general, enough people already have what they think are enough reasons to do so, so what’s one more?

Moreover cancer is primarily a disease of ageing, so if we put a limit on how long people can live we will solve the problem.

A certain chunk is just odds, a one in whatever chance every year times how many years lived. Our defensive functions do wear down with age, damage doesn’t get automatically repaired fast enough, increasing the per year odds.
Some of the current advice for avoiding it doesn’t help much either. We are warned about “free radicals,” people load up on antioxidants. Yet those reactive oxygen species (ROS) do perform important functions in the body, too many antioxidants can cause problems. Also I seem to remember a news blurb from a year or so ago, people were taking so much antioxidants it was interfering with their oxygen uptake.
Read the linked Wikipedia piece. Turns out a major source of oxidative damage is leakage from mitochondria. No “external cause” needed, a major source of our eventual downfall is built in.
As to getting rid of people past a certain age in general, enough people already have what they think are enough reasons to do so… ☺

Dave Andrews
January 24, 2011 1:30 pm

Kadaka,
Yeah, isn’t it a bummer that cancer is as natural as sunrise? 🙂