Patrick J. MICHAELS: China-style dictatorship of climatologists
NASA’s Hansen prefers rule by decree to fight ‘global warming’
Excerpts: From the Washington Times Monday, January 17, 2011
November’s election made it quite clear that the people of the United States do not want to radically change our society in the name of global warming. Pretty much every close House race went to the Republicans, while the Democrats won all the Senate squeakers. The difference? The House on June 26, 2009, passed a bill limiting carbon-dioxide emissions and getting into just about every aspect of our lives. The Senate did nothing of the sort.
The nation’s most prominent publicly funded climatologist is officially angry about this, blaming democracy and citing the Chinese government as the “best hope” to save the world from global warming. He also wants an economic boycott of the U.S. sufficient to bend us to China’s will.
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According to Mr. Hansen, compared to China, we are “the barbarians” with a “fossil-money- ‘democracy’ that now rules the roost,” making it impossible to legislate effectively on climate change. Unlike us, the Chinese are enlightened, unfettered by pesky elections. Here’s what he blogged on Nov. 24:
“I have the impression that Chinese leadership takes a long view, perhaps because of the long history of their culture, in contrast to the West with its short election cycles. At the same time, China has the capacity to implement policy decisions rapidly. The leaders seem to seek the best technical information and do not brand as a hoax that which is inconvenient.”
Read the whole story at the Washington Times
h/t to Leif Svalgaard
A few months ago, there was a significant bloom of SO2 over china. For all the world, a few volcano aficionados were convinced that a volcano had just gone pop. We scoured the records looking for likely suspects but the closest thing we could come up with was a meager formation off to the North West. The problem was that the prevailing winds didn’t match up.
After a while we figured it out. Beijing. Man made. Large and sudden enough to look like a volcano.
And not one bit of news to hint at what it was.
Yeah, china is a good example… not.
(Note, I spell china with a lower case c out of disrespect)
Hansen wishes to be ruled by China. But maybe in China he would not have a good life on the expenses of others. Maybe he would be in a labour camp and grind rocks.
Is there anyone left that doesn’t understand what we’re up against?
http://www.edmontonjournal.com/health/Climate+change+deniers+skilfully+fuel+doubt/4114099/story.html
“….libertarians in the U.S. who have led a decades-long ideological fight, first against the communists and then the health community and now environmentalism.”
They are all one and the same. Our fathers were right. McCarthy was right. Khrushchev is dangerously close to having been correct.
What a despicable men he is, not content to have a job where he is expected to promote a fraud but to actually want Americans to be subjugated to the brutal rule of communists. Why, so he would have no opposition and not have to prove his claim. And it can be assumed he would want China to rule all of Western civilization. He indeed must consider himself priceless.
When in China speaking, does he get someone to crank up the heat in the room there, too? Parlor tricks and charlatanism. I am certain most Chinese would not have sources of information to counter Hansen’s talking points. WUWT? is blocked in China.
“It’s only a quirk of fate that you call yourself a democracy (which you are not)”
Democracy for short, Constitutional Republic to be precise.
Peter H says:
January 18, 2011 at 5:27 am
Pardon me, but I reject your “logic”!
I actually steer clear of as many “Made in China” items as possible (I don’t shop at Walmart much). Sure, I probably have a few things, but typically there isn’t a replacement item made in the US. The mere fact that I purchase something from them does NOT mean I “support” them and their evil, totalitarian regime. But you bring up a good collateral point–buying from them does not improve the US’s industrial capacity and standing among world competitors and only helps the Chinese. I suggest we all purchase items “Made in the US” and keep our dollars home where they will more likely be used to hire someone local/regional. It is a sad fact that since 2001, about 42,000 factories have closed in the US with an average of 500 employees per factory. No wonder the US is no longer a productive industrial nation deeply in debt to China–a country who has embraced a vision that combines energy + hard work + entrepreneurial spirit–exactly what the US once had in abundance.
We’ve PC’d ourselves into secondary status and illogical people like Hansen have led the way. Hansen is so completely wrong about China I wonder what planet he’s on (I lived in China for 2 years and it was an eye-opener).
Move over Alice. I’ve fallen down the rabbit hole.
Hansen has gone into intellectual and moral meltdown. Does this mean he’s suffering from China Syndrome?
They’ve got to reach for that power when they can.
He needs a long vacation at McLean in Belmont, MA.
Mike Haseler,
You are Sooooooooooooooooo correct!
thanks for that
Steve
Hansen doesn’t understand the laws of economics.
Steam coal costs $120/tonne in China and $15/tonne in Wyoming.
Nuclear,hydro, and wind coupled with hydro are all cheaper energy options then burning coal in China or the entire rest of Asia for that matter.
Having said that the Chinese generating capacity mix in 2020 will most likely be
Coal – 900GW – up from 680 now
Hydro – 400GW – up from 200 now
Wind – 200GW – up from 70 now
Nuclear – 100GW – up from 10 now.
Post 2020 nuclear generating capacity is the likely source of future energy growth as Hydro will be maxed out.
US Coal,Nuclear and Hydro generating capacity have been flat since 1990.
US Greenies that want to talk about windmills need to get over their aversion to hydro.
China had to shut down factories for three months prior to the olympics to improve air quality. Yep, I think I want to follow their lead when it comes to the environment.
Thus spake a watermelon
75% of the people in China and India cook and heat with charcoal, coal, wood, trash and any combustible.
China has no real labor unions. Cheap labor.
They have 49 million in prison; free labor. If you complain about worker safety in a coal mine, 10 years in jail and work for free.
Joe Romm lauds praises daily to commie China.
@Mike Haseler:
King for a Kingdom.
Emperor for an Empire.
Hansen for a Country.
Apologies Anthony….couldn’t resist. 🙂
“You’ll have my society when you pry it from my suspiciously warm, dead hands!”
Or something.
Come on, at least try to keep up
Try “China and the Barbarians: Part 1.” (currently three titles down)
Paul Krugman is rather fond of China’s authoritarianism as well. It’s really hard to know everything and not have everyone do what you say.
Oh come on.
The headline is way inappropriate given Hansen’s quote, which is basically correct in observing that China takes a longer view than US and can make decisions & execute policy more nimbly.
The points about china’s talk vs behavior are true, but the headline and name calling (‘git’) based in physical appearance are WAY beneath what I have come to expect from this site.
There are so many valid criticisms and observations out there with regard to climate alarmism I cannot see why WUWT would stoop so low, especially on the heels of willis’ excellent work.
You are better than this. Come on.
For the first time ever, I voted straight Republican. I see the CAGW monstrosity as a war on truth, on freedom, and on Democracy itself. It is indeed instructive that Jimmy “trains of death” Hansen views China and its still-Communistic, authoritarian style of government as the “best hope” of the world, and that we Americans are “barbarians”. I am sure many, if not most of his eco-loony cohorts feel the same way. One wonders what China’s jailed 2010 Nobel Peace Prize winner, Liu Xiaobo would say to them.
Hansen’s anger about the recent elections and his loony, near-treasonous rant fill me with satisfaction and hope. We must be doing something right.
@John Brooks, here and on other threads:
You said that you took your position of (pro) AGW after reading Gore’s Inconvenient Truth.
Perhaps you should read Gore’s soul-mate, Hansen in this comment and let us know where you stand as a result.
Frank K. says:
January 18, 2011 at 5:56 am
……
* Sea levels will eventually rise 25 meters above today’s levels when CO2 level reach 400 ppm in 2016.
* Sea levels will further rise to 75 meters when we reach 550 ppm.
* Climate zones are shifting 50-60 km per decade, which will eventually lead to mass extinctions of animals and plants.
* Increasing CO2 to 550 ppm by burning fossil fuels will lead to a “desolate, ice-free planet…”
* “Transition to the ice-free state will be chaotic and out of humanity’s control…”
John Brookes says:
January 18, 2011 at 3:17 am
…” Funny thing though, it seems to me that much of our money is spent on frivolous things like clothes, flash cars, and houses which are much bigger than we need them to be.”
Ya, clothes there is something “frivolous”.
As I and others have said before the CO2 agenda has been about freedom not warming. He who controls the price and amount of energy people are allowed to use, control the people.
Drill baby Drill.
I would think the Chinese more than anyone would like to see Hansen shut the hell up. He’s not only an embarrassment to himself, the US, science in general, he’s now propping up one of the few regimes in the world that by policy is not going green any time soon. That puts him in at special world of nutty professors. Or as they are known in the pop culture, he’s one of the nutters.