Hansen would rather have us ruled by China

James Hansen
Dr. James Hansen in his famous 1998 speech before congress. Image via Wikipedia

Patrick J. MICHAELS: China-style dictatorship of climatologists

NASA’s Hansen prefers rule by decree to fight ‘global warming’

Excerpts: From the Washington Times Monday, January 17, 2011

November’s election made it quite clear that the people of the United States do not want to radically change our society in the name of global warming. Pretty much every close House race went to the Republicans, while the Democrats won all the Senate squeakers. The difference? The House on June 26, 2009, passed a bill limiting carbon-dioxide emissions and getting into just about every aspect of our lives. The Senate did nothing of the sort.

The nation’s most prominent publicly funded climatologist is officially angry about this, blaming democracy and citing the Chinese government as the “best hope” to save the world from global warming. He also wants an economic boycott of the U.S. sufficient to bend us to China’s will.

According to Mr. Hansen, compared to China, we are “the barbarians” with a “fossil-money- ‘democracy’ that now rules the roost,” making it impossible to legislate effectively on climate change. Unlike us, the Chinese are enlightened, unfettered by pesky elections. Here’s what he blogged on Nov. 24:

“I have the impression that Chinese leadership takes a long view, perhaps because of the long history of their culture, in contrast to the West with its short election cycles. At the same time, China has the capacity to implement policy decisions rapidly. The leaders seem to seek the best technical information and do not brand as a hoax that which is inconvenient.”

Read the whole story at the Washington Times

h/t to Leif Svalgaard

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Steeptown
January 18, 2011 1:26 am

Hansen looked a miserable git in 1998. Now he’s just a miserable evil old git.

c1ue
January 18, 2011 1:31 am

Apparently Mr. Hansen didn’t read up on China’s CO2 stance: i.e. that China is not willing to stunt its own growth in order to limit purported damage due to the US and Europe’s past pollution.
That’s the real long view.
But of course we all know Hansen is just a nut job who somehow retains his post as head of a fairly important scientific organization.
It is this juxtaposition of Hansen’s appointed position and Hansen’s gigantic mouth which makes me wonder just what is going on the US federal government.

Frosty
January 18, 2011 1:32 am

Keep going Jim, there’s still one or two people you’ve not managed to alienate.

tom roche
January 18, 2011 1:33 am

It appears that Dr Hansen is suffering a meltdown all of his own.

Steve
January 18, 2011 1:34 am

Well, of course. Why do you think Maurice Strong moved his base of environmental operations to China years ago? Reminds me of the J. Ventura special investigation series.

rukidding
January 18, 2011 1:40 am

Yes make no mistake about it every warmist is a marxist at heart.
I guess he would not be in favour of suspending democracy until we have thrown these
warmists out.

Chaveratti
January 18, 2011 1:41 am

Hansen needs to take off those rose red tinted glasses.
If China has got it so right why doesn’t he go and live there!

Richard S Courtney
January 18, 2011 1:50 am

At the Kingsnorth Trial Dr Hansen spoke as an Expert Witness. His testimony was a disgrace in that he asserted global warming is so severe a problem that actions intended to damage the power station (or any other coal-fired power station) are justified because the benefit of the electricity the power station provided was outweighed by the great harm being done by its CO2 emissions.
The terrorists (who had attacked the power station, caused its temporary stoppage, and caused costly damage) were acquited.
Dr Hansen is employed by an agency of the US government (i.e. NASA) and the value of his expert opinion is provided by that employment.
Sending an agent of the US government to assist terrorists acting in the UK could be considered to be an act of war. It is certainly not a friendly act by a country that is an ally of the UK.
Richard

Keitho
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January 18, 2011 1:53 am

If your opponent is willing to hobble himself by eschewing the use of cheap energy you would be a total idiot not to use cheap energy to beat him.
Unlike the ever “guilty” west China sees absolutely nothing wrong with striving for global economic ( followed by political ) domination. Hansen is correct , but not in the way he thinks he is.

John from New Zealand
January 18, 2011 1:55 am

I heard somewhere that on average the Chinese open a new coal-fired power plant every week. If that’s true perhaps Jimmy Hansen should take one of his rent-a-crowds over there and protest outside one of them and see where that gets him. I’m sure they’ll be very understanding and bring out some milk & cookies for you Jim.

Steeptown
January 18, 2011 1:56 am

He’s long past retirement age. Surely some suitably qualified person could look at his ramblings and make judgements about his state of senility/paranoia/Alzheimers?

Jimbo
January 18, 2011 1:56 am

If James Hansen were a calamatologist in China he would never have given his 1988 speech to the Chinese parliament. He would never have been allowed to scaremonger. IF over the years AGW is shown to be increasingly false (which is what I see right now) then will he issue an apology to the people of America and the rest of the world? He is a public employee in a democracy and should not be attacking his employers and get away with it. In years to come the US government will learn from this episode and strictly enforce it’s own rules regarding employee conduct. Unbelievable!
Correction?
I think Mr. Hansen gave his speech on June 23 1988.

Peter H
January 18, 2011 2:01 am

Hansen looked a miserable git in 1998. Now he’s just a miserable evil old git.
Well, that sets a nice tone doesn’t it…
Anyway, where does Dr Hansen say what is claimed he did? The fact is he didn’t say that he would ‘rather have us ruled by China’ or anything like that. The whole premise of the piece is utterly bogus.

January 18, 2011 2:10 am

China is clever. They speak to the popular views while their actions are opposite. They have tremendous pollution problems, but that gets little attention when they talk about their commitment to reduce CO2 emissions.
They clearly understand how to work the backroom deals with politicians. Their long term view is something to worry about. They keep putting engineers in charge while we keep putting lawyers in charge. That is something to worry about.
John Kehr

Greg Holmes
January 18, 2011 2:18 am

Did not Mr Hansen have something to do with THE MUPPETS?[tsk. tsk.]

Dave
January 18, 2011 2:23 am

Me thinks the good doctor may have finally gone too far. The republicans are looking for ways to cut the budget and up pops this plumb… a civil servant advocating a political position contrary to our culture and way of life. Time to go out to pasture Jimbo. Oh yeah, take your friends with you.

Barry Sheridan
January 18, 2011 2:26 am

I suggest Mr Hansen heads for the Far East, calling for civil disobedience in China as a means of protesting against the construction of one of the many coal fired stations they are building. Indeed he should head this protest himself, then with any luck the saviours of the world will lock him up. Of course we know he will not try it on, people like him only carry on like this in countries where they know they will be treated with kid gloves. Still there is always hope, perhaps attitudes here will change.

J.Hansford
January 18, 2011 2:31 am

Well as far as I’m concerned, until Hansen speaks in scientific terms, armed with evidence and observations proving his claims of Catastrophic effects from Anthropogenic CO2 on Global temperatures…… I’ll treat his statements like I treat Prince Charles’s…. As the ramblings of a eccentric fruit loop.
Both of them live off the public purse and are afforded more respect than they deserve, which is rather galling also.

Al Gore's Holy Hologram
January 18, 2011 2:37 am

Fossil fuels have been used for thousands of years by the Chinese and other Asian builders of civilisations. White guilters have a stupid way of not seeing that.

AlanG
January 18, 2011 2:40 am

What miserable drones and traitors have I nourished and brought up in my household, who let their lord be treated with such shameful contempt by a low-born cleric? Henry II on Thomas Becket. More usually written as Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?
Is James “China’s useful idiot” Hansen aware that China now burns 45% of all the coal in the world and is the largest emitter of GHCs by far – even more so when you count all the methane from paddy fields. This on a day of a difficult Chinese state visit. This guy should be sacked now. Foreign policy is NOT his department.

H.R.
January 18, 2011 2:42 am

Since he’s in the “climate biz,” I’m sure he’s well aware of China’s attitudes and actions. Talk about your cognitive dissonance, this is it!

crosspatch
January 18, 2011 2:45 am

So is he arguing for a Chinese style nuclear development and fuel recycling program?
I would go for that.

Louis Hissink
January 18, 2011 2:46 am

To stop Hansen’s agenda one needs to demolish his belief that the Venusian temperature is due to a runaway greenhouse gas effect. Until that happens, it’s all hot air being contributed by both sides.

Shevva
January 18, 2011 2:47 am

He really is going down in history as the Dr.Evil character, does that make old Phil Jones mini-me?

Eric (skeptic)
January 18, 2011 2:51 am

At the same time, China has the capacity to implement policy decisions rapidly. The leaders seem to seek the best technical information and do not brand as a hoax that which is inconvenient.”
They branded inconvenient freedom a hoax and backed it up with tanks and gunfire on unarmed civilians. Hansen probably also doesn’t realize that China has one of the slowest and most ponderous political-economic systems, namely crony capitalism ruled by local thugs. They have a giant economic bubble and overcapacity since every local communist party boss wants his factory. And thanks to mostly no private ownership, they squander resources and destroy the environment.

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