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I somehow missed this in December, but WUWT reader Jimbo thankfully reminds us in comments on the Nature-“global warming isn’t killing penguins” thread

Jimbo says:

January 14, 2011 at 2:56 am

This story reminds me of the environmentalist who, after a bowel movement, burned her used toilet paper (for environmental reasons) and subsequently caused Israel’s worst ever fire. Greenpeace initially blamed global warming.

Frogs: debunked. Lizards: debunked. Penguins: debunked

Each of these is caused by concerned environmentalist researchers or poachers.

References:

http://www.jpost.com/GreenIsrael/PEOPLEANDTHEENVIRONMENT/Article.aspx?id=195702

http://www.greenprophet.com/2010/12/greenpeace-israel-carmel-fire/

UPDATE: To be fair, the original source is even further upstream:

Ray says:

January 13, 2011 at 1:26 pm

Global warming brought to you by Greenpeace…

http://hauntingthelibrary.wordpress.com/2011/01/13/environmentalist-starts-israels-worst-ever-fire-greenpeace-blames-global-warming/

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James Sexton
January 14, 2011 12:54 pm

The cause of this particular fire was, sadly enough, the good intentions of a participant in the Rainbow Festival that was being held at the site.
Ahh, the road to hell. How long must we suffer from these well-intended, yet very foolish killers?
From Randy Travis.
…”And I hear tell the road to hell is paved with good intentions
And mama my intentions were the best
There’s lotsa things in my life I just as soon not mention
Looks like I’ve turned out like all the rest
But mama my intentions were the best..”

January 14, 2011 1:08 pm

Doesn’t burning bogroll produce CO2? Surely a true green would just have used some grass….

tty
January 14, 2011 1:10 pm

“marc fenton says:
January 14, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Tell me it isn’t true http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1346936/The-sun-rises-days-early-Greenland-sparking-fears-climate-change-accelerating.html
This is utterly idiotic, they claim that the lowered icecap has caused the sun to rise early!
However when you first see the Sun again north of the Arctic circle, it rises briefly in the SOUTH. The icecap is 50 km EAST of Illulissat.
So what caused the “early rise”? Simple: unusual atmospheric refraction. When the temperature profile in the atmosphere is right it can “lift” things that are normally below the horizon. I have actually once seen the coast of Finland from the Swedish coast, right across the Bothnian Bay. It is unusual, but it happens.

James Sexton
January 14, 2011 1:38 pm

tty says:
January 14, 2011 at 1:10 pm
“marc fenton says:
January 14, 2011 at 12:09 pm
Tell me it isn’t true http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1346936/The-sun-rises-days-early-Greenland-sparking-fears-climate-change-accelerating.html”
This is utterly idiotic, they claim that the lowered icecap has caused the sun to rise early!
However when you first see the Sun again north of the Arctic circle, it rises briefly in the SOUTH. The icecap is 50 km EAST of Illulissat.
So what caused the “early rise”? Simple: unusual atmospheric refraction.
========================================================
Nope, I’m pretty sure CO2 is making the earth speed through its cycles quicker!! That’s where Kevin’s missing energy went! Sure, it’s only happening up north right now, but just wait until the rest of the earth catches up! Then we’re really gonna see climate chaos!

January 14, 2011 1:43 pm

oh, you guys might love this one too:
California’s electricity billing essentially punishes users of electric cars:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/01/14/plug_in_cars_only_worthwhile_with_much_higher_oil_prices/
*chuckle*

Elise
January 14, 2011 3:30 pm

Spot on tty.
It sounds like the locals expect to get some benefit from the AGW scam. To say that it has never ever happened before 13th January makes you wonder what happens in a leap year, surely there must be a variation for that reason alone.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/0c/Greenland_Ilulissat_Panorama_medium.jpg
In the above image I reckon that due south is probably aligned with the radio tower on top of the hill to the left so at 12:56 on the 11th of January the sun would be somewhere to the right of that point
(I originally posted this about half an hour ago but it seems to have gone astray – Please delete if it results in a double post)

David A. Evans
January 14, 2011 3:55 pm

tarpon says:
January 14, 2011 at 10:33 am

I wonder why the toilet paper cause wasn’t better circulated in the media?

Don’t they peddle enough $h1t?
DaveE.

Jimbo
January 14, 2011 4:15 pm

My apologies Anthony. I should have added in the references Haunting The Library. I just tried to slim it down. My bad!
I even made a brief comment.
http://hauntingthelibrary.wordpress.com/2011/01/13/environmentalist-starts-israels-worst-ever-fire-greenpeace-blames-global-warming/#comment-696

Jimbo
January 14, 2011 4:24 pm

sHx says:
January 14, 2011 at 11:03 am
Why-o-why would anyone burn a used toilet paper in a forest for ‘ecological’ reasons? The paper is made of wood. The fertiliser is good for the forest……

I couldn’t agree more.
My mounting worry about this story is that concerned greens are actually doing more harm than good. See the frog and penguin stories.

It's always Marcia, Marcia
January 14, 2011 4:40 pm

Oh, for shame, she burned what global warming is made of.

It's always Marcia, Marcia
January 14, 2011 4:41 pm

I don’t mean the paper part……

3x2
January 14, 2011 4:50 pm

“Green Peace arse wipe incinerates 5000 hectares of forest”
(bet that one won’t be heading up a page in the Guardian any time soon)

3x2
January 14, 2011 5:01 pm

“tty says: January 14, 2011 at 1:10 pm
[…] So what caused the “early rise”? Simple: unusual atmospheric refraction. […]”
Only ever seen the Moon do that (UK) – very memorable. Two full Moons, one with a tell tale redish tinge but otherwise perfect.

Sam Hall
January 14, 2011 5:14 pm

tty says:
January 14, 2011 at 1:10 pm
“marc fenton says:
January 14, 2011 at 12:09 pm
“Tell me it isn’t true http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1346936/The-sun-rises-days-early-Greenland-sparking-fears-climate-change-accelerating.html”
This is utterly idiotic, they claim that the lowered icecap has caused the sun to rise early!
However when you first see the Sun again north of the Arctic circle, it rises briefly in the SOUTH. The icecap is 50 km EAST of Illulissat.
So what caused the “early rise”? Simple: unusual atmospheric refraction.”
The link is dead, probably because somebody figured out it was all BS.
Atmospheric refraction is something I know a lot about since I use it in my work. I don’t have the refractive numbers for visible light at hand, but they are close to the ones for radio waves which I do know.
The easiest way to think about atmospheric refraction is to use what is called a “K-factor” to adjust the size of the earth. A normal atmosphere has a K-factor of 1.33, meaning the earth appears to be 1.33 times normal size and you can see pass the geometric horizon and the sun appears higher in the sky than it really is.
K-factors can range from about 0.4 (the earth curves more) to infinity (flat earth).

David Ball
January 14, 2011 6:51 pm

I nearly drove off the road when I saw this bumper sticker; ” Join The Bowel Movement”.

Brian H
January 14, 2011 11:43 pm

Mike D;
So, ah, you advocate maximum build-up of floor litter and slash? So that the soil is sterilized once a fire does start, and mature trees that routinely survive ordinary more frequent fires succumb to the Big Ones you prefer? And the fire-activated seeds get destroyed instead of released?
Nice!
Oh, I see … you think you can opt for NEVER having a forest fire! Um, sorry to burst your phantasy bobble, but … it ain’t so. And wishing won’t make it so.

-=NikFromNYC=-
January 15, 2011 7:11 am

A great quote about leftist hypocrisy from Instapundit today: “UPDATE: Reader Vito DiPaola writes: “Has anyone commented on the fact that some of the people criticizing Sarah Palin for using the term ‘blood libel’ are the same people that use the term ‘deniers’ when criticizing global warming skeptics?”
http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/113206/