This video has been making the rounds, and the most encouraging thing about it is: it ran on the BBC. The fact that is did speaks to the growing skeptical view of climate change.
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I can’t agree with this reading. Of course the government propaganda pamphlet would show hockey sticks. That just makes the point that its brainwashing. When you can’t make an offhand comment on the weather then its freedom itself under attack. And the big green tick when he mouths the “correct” mumbo-jumbo (that no normal person would ever come up with). Priceless.
You do recall correctly. She did think it was worth investigating (perhaps partly because of her battle with the mining unions) and might have been instrumental in getting the current apparatus going. However, she has long since recanted. In fact, if I recall correctly, this was stated clearly in her book.
An inch of snow on my terrace in downtown Paris this morning. The boys are planning to build a snowman after school.
I also believe this is a diversionary tactic, make a big “hoorah” about AGW, distract “the unwashed masses” and BINGO, pass policy. Oh, hang on, this is the UK right? Or is this Australia? Or New Zealand? Or CA? Oh bugger! The frog is boiled already!
Kaboom says:
December 17, 2010 at 3:08 am
You forgot dry turkey and tasteless, watery Brussels sprouts. Not that this is anything other than par for the course in our home…
P.S. Al Gored on Tips and Notes 3 December 16 2010 10.59 has post on how this has come full circle for the Greenies in the pre-programmed use of them, first villifying coal and now actively supporting nuclear power!
Re Kaboom says:
December 17, 2010 at 3:08 am
Ya, you tell em.
Just one question for you, what have climate models NOT predicted?
Funny but disturbing for it’s Orwellian overtones of prison for not agreeing with political propaganda that you’ll got to jail and end up being ass raped; and the fact that the video has got it wrong (sure there is currently a slight warming trend but they forget to point out that it’s entirely natural and that there is no good evidence that humans are having any significant impact upon climate at all).
Is this clip “for or against” ???
Well I’m a non manmade warmest/climate change or whatever the latest buzz word is. But as an ex-pat I tend see it as a p**s take. But for some warmists I think this may well lead to confusion and doubt, especially for the older ones.
Are they making fun of us, it, whatever?
It’s a confused message or we wouldn’t be asking the question “for or against”. The term cognitive dissonance comes to mind.
Hi Kaboom – I guess you have trouble with reading. I don’t think you will find many people here “harping on” about weather being climate. Don’t forget it was warmist who predicted that “snow would be a thing of the past”.
Perhaps you could explain how and where climate models predicted “all this precipitation” (weather as you point out, not climate).
Global Warming Is The Least of Your Worries
It took me a second to catch the satire (I’m Canadian not British)
Thankfully I learned from my last burned out computer monitor to
turn away before I cough up my tea.
Climate VS. weather? what have we been saying for the last 15 years?
dwright
@Myrrh
Thanks, very interesting!
Oil companies using reverse psychology… does this make them double-evil ? 😉
Hysterical!
Chris
Norfolk, VA, USA
Maggie Thatcher’s enthusiasts cannot get away from the fact that (irrespective of what she later came to realise) she was the one who really launched this whole scam and who appointed weapons-grade eco-loons like Crispin Tickell and John Houghton as Government Advisors. Since then, successive governments in the UK have made a point of only appointing eco-loons as “scientific” advisors.
So guess what kind of “scientific” advice policy decisions have been based on, ever since? It is also worth pointing out that advice in areas of science not obviously connected to the climate has been overwhelmingly based on computer models rather than proper experiment and observation. Think of the avian flu “pandemic”, Foot & Mouth, nvCJD, Listeria, Salmonella in eggs and so on and on.
All based on computerised shroudwaving (and sucking up huge amounts of Grant money in the mean time).
Brilliant! Love the video (and the Genesis reference to The Ghost of Big Jim Cooley)!
Ohio is currently having its coldest December in recent memory. Already, city governments are nearly out of road salt, and winter doesn’t officially begin for three more days.
I’m planning a mid-winter vacation to the Bahamas, but I’m afraid temperatures will be too cold to allow for a swim in the ocean! Where is global warming when you need it??
“Ah yes, ‘Protect and survive’.
Great advice on how to withstand nuclear attack by piling books on your dining room table and crawling under it with your box of candles and a transistor radio.”
And parodied mercilessly in an episode of ‘The young one’s.” Awakening to find an unexploded nuclear warhead had lodged itself in the kitchen of their house, Neil reaches for his ‘incredibly helpful and informative protect and survive guide.’ He is later seen building a barricade under the kitchen table and painting himself white in order to ‘deflect the blast.’
Priceless.
check out what goes on in Australia
http://weather.news.com.au/news/heavy-rain-in-very-dry-parts-of-western-australia-/15637
“…The rain started at Carnarvon Airport in the Gascoyne during Thursday night and brought 205mm in only 24 hours. Carnarvon has not recorded any rainfall above 1mm this month and has just seen its wettest day since December 1949…”
Funny, very appropriate here in freezing Blighty.
Here’s a funny letter I found . . . . enjoy.
Dear Sir,
I live in Hitchin, which is 45 miles away from your impressive meetings venue. As featured on your website under ‘Carbon Free Meetings’, please calculate my CO2 emissions to and from the meeting so that I can then pay you some money towards the planting of a few saplings – in order to offset my ‘footprint’. The following information may help you arrive at a more accurate calculation.
Firstly, as far as I am aware, from the moment I set off on my journey to when I arrived home later that evening, I was involuntarily responsible for inhaling quite a bit of oxygen and breathing out CO2 that day. Despite several conscientious attempts, I found it difficult to prevent my lungs from performing this respiratory function.
My car is a large 3.5 litre V6 Estate – some may say a ‘gas guzzler’ and less CO2 efficient than say a small Mini. However, I chose to drive the 90 mile round trip in a cautiously sedate fashion – as behind the driver’s seat, the back was still full of heavy sacks containing decaying rubbish from my garden. Unfortunately, I failed to get to the local recycling centre on time the previous day. With regard to my ‘footprint’ calculation, please take in to account the extra CO2 produced by the natural anaerobic digestion of grass cuttings, decaying leaves, windfall apples, twigs and roots – both during my journey and whilst my car remained parked at your premises for the day. In addition, being such a warm morning, and due to the load I was carrying, the liquid CO2 refrigerant in my car’s air conditioning unit circulated fresh cool air in a pleasing manner – which overcame both the heat and the unpleasant pong. Furthermore, I quenched my thirst sipping from the small screw top bottle of fizzy lemonade (injected with man-made CO2 purely for its novelty effect).
Much to the annoyance of fellow road users, my sedate driving behaviour that day was also largely responsible for their impatient driving manner. Each one flashed, tooted and increased their fuel consumption by accelerating past me at every available opportunity. Therefore, I must also be held indirectly responsible for the all the unnecessary extra CO2 emissions caused by other road users.
During the picturesque journey to your impressive facilities, the lemonade got the better of me. Having stopped briefly for some welcomed bathroom facilities, I realised that on flushing the toilet, CO2 is used to control the alkaline pH level when processing our waste water in sewage treatment.
You should also note that whilst driving to your venue, regretfully, I failed to stop in time when a deer ran across the road. Sadly, I killed the deer instantly – the consequences of which meant that more CO2 would begin to leach in to the atmosphere because of the imminent decaying process of animal tissue. Although I was not driving at speed, the collision also caused highly compressed liquid CO2 (@ur momisugly 870psi) to rapidly inflate both my driver’s and passenger air bags. My engine also caught fire, but luckily, I used my emergency CO2 extinguisher to put out the flames successfully. The whole unfortunate event left me in shock. To help remedy this, and for medicinal purposes, I took a sip from my handy hip flask containing the finest malt whisky – which is distilled from beer that is naturally fermented using sugar and yeast – which produces CO2.
On my return journey home, feeling peckish, I stopped off and bought a coffee, a small bag of ‘Twiglets’ and a pre-packed ham sandwich. When calculating my footprint, please take in to consideration that CO2 is combined with other gases to replace the oxygen when packing food. Known as Modified Atmosphere Packaging or MAP, the process slows down the growth of mould and bacteria, and helps to increase “shelf-life” so that food stays fresher for longer. The process also reduces the need to put artificial additives and preservatives into our food. CO2 emissions were also increased as a bi-product of yeast fermentation when the bread for the sandwich was made in the factory – and when the large scale production line bread making equipment was cleaned down at the end of the baking shift, it was ‘sandblasted’ with liquid CO2 (dry ice) pellets – as is the norm for the industry. As for my bag of ‘Twiglets’: they where manufactured by adding Baking Powder and/or Bicarbonate of Soda to a slightly acidic wheat flour liquid. Sadly, this produced CO2, which ‘aerated’ the mix to give it its light texture. Twiglets are also flavoured with wonderfully knobbly bits of Marmite. Marmite is fermented yeast extract, a bi-product of the brewing industry. Loads of CO2 there. Please also allow for the fact that my coffee was decaffeinated – meaning that the raw coffee beans travelled down a 70ft column of CO2 fluid to neutralise and remove the caffeine. Unfortunately, the additional intestinal gas I produced as a reaction to the coffee and sandwiches’ resistance to my normal digestive enzymes meant that I farted. Please note that in addition to obnoxious smells, a typical fart is made up of 25% CO2 (plus 55% Nitrogen and 20% of flammable oxygen/methane/hydrogen mixture).
Finally, when my car was originally manufactured, CO2 was used in the rubber moulding for the tyres and gaskets, the casting of moulds for the metal panels and as a ‘shielding’ gas in the welding fabrication. Pressurised CO2 was used in the precision sealed beam laser cutting of all my car’s printed circuit boards, ceramics and acrylics.
I already pay hefty stealth taxes for driving my car – especially annual road tax based on CO2 emissions – and now you are offering me the opportunity to shell out even more money so people like you can profiteer from their tree-planting sideline business – and all because I should feel guilty about saving the planet. It is mind boggling that millions of people around the world should get so concerned about a temperature increase of one degree over the past one hundred years that they are prepared to financially penalise us for it.
For the record, despite my car’s engine size, I understand that what was coming out of my car’s exhaust is quite insignificant when compared to all the world’s manufactured CO2 gas that I used to ‘make things happen’ during the course of that day. CO2 is manufactured on a global scale by encompassing alkali metal hydroxides, calcium hydroxide, sodium or potassium carbonate, and organic absorbers. Molecular-sieve materials (using temperature or pressure cycling) complete the process. Most of this CO2 is then compressed into liquid, placed inside cylinders and sold to the manufacturing industry.
If CO2 is really a problem, then why are we not banning volcanic eruptions, sulpher springs, decaffeinated coffee, printed circuit boards, prawn crackers and people farting after eating brussel sprouts? Ethically speaking, you would be far better earning lots of money planting your trees to offset the collective ‘Carbon Footprint’ of compost heaps, wood burners, beer production, limescale removers, bread, wine, cakes, brick manufacture, cement production, Alka-Seltzer, inflatable life jackets, anti-tainting compounds, phenol (synthetic carbonic acid used in dyestuffs, colourants and plastics) and food miles for global distribution of staple foods such as citrus fruit, nuts, tea, coco, tinned tuna, pineapples & rice.
How much do I owe you?
Anon
I can’t imagine that any native Brit will have interpreted this as anything but a dig at AGW. If they’d wanted to support AGW, they’d have had a dig at the sceptics. It’s very encouraging to see questioning occurring via humour, especially when it’s the Beeb.
In reference to the above “hang on there’s someone at my door…” comment, I too think all this knicker twisting over climatic disruption is being delivered compliments of an invasion of greenstupid disestablishmentarianism, too-smart-for-their-breeches, marginal scientists who would rather feel than search for doubt like real scie…hold on, the phone is ringing…
Interesting weather in Australia yesterday; Hailstones the size of walnuts.
Meant to say “…disestablishmentarianistic…” Bad grammar Pam, bad grammar.
I’ve been visiting this website for about a month now. I have to admit that it presents some conflicting and perhaps irreconcilable viewpoints, or at least they are unclear to me, a person with a reasonable level of scientific fluency.
Is it the contention of this site that
1) There is no such thing as global warming?
2) There is global warming, but the data has been massaged and twisted by corrupt scientists and policymakers?
3) There is global warming, but it is not manmade?
4) There is global warming, but we don’t have the data to determine that it’s manmade, or if so, what proportion of it is “natural climate variance” and which is caused by 250 years of industry raising the CO2 levels.
5) it is amusing to take the piss out of holier-than-thou climate change scaremongers who have a vested interest in jobs-for-life as carbon-tax bureaucrats?
I suppose it could be a combination of all these points, and a few more I haven’t seen yet as ongoing themes. I live in a country (Canada) where we are quite profligate in our use of fossil energy and also in which some of the more notable climate change events occur (such as permafrost thawing and the opening of the Northwest Passage).
I am also a sailor planning a world cruise starting in a couple of years. On the personal level, I do in fact see more “extremes” in the weather, more deviation, I suppose, from the historical norm. I also accept that “change” in this sense could include this sense of a widening of such historical norms and a lessening of the predictability of seasonal weather trends. My pilot books are established on these principles: that over some 200 years of data recording (mostly by the U.S. and U.K navies), it has been possible to discern patterns that exceed raw chance in terms of what sort of sailing weather one might expect in given areas in given months.
So while I encourage a healthy and indeed scientific skepticism over the causes (and by inference, the range of possible solutions) of climate change, I don’t reject the premise that burning fossil fuels created over millions of years in a handful of decades, or widespread deforestation in favour of farting cattle has had a measurable effect on the planetary climate.
It would be surprising if it hadn’t, given that we are pretty clear on what a single large volcano can do as a matter of historical record: Bugger up the summers for a few years.
But I remain unclear as to the base premises of this site. While I do not accept nor encourage the sort of evangelical self-hatred of all man’s works that some “greens” espouse, neither do I believe that the viewpoint of those who posit that “all climate change science is bunk; let’s all hop in the SUV and drive slowly!” is particularly helpful, either.
Will someone illuminate me? Preferably with a warm, white LED, of course.
Jim Cripwell
December 17, 2010 at 3:36 am
In Regards to your “realism” I just checked the weather history for the city that you mention and my parent’s town, Daytona Beach. On the 15th of December, the high in Iqualuit shows as 0 C and that in Daytona is +14C. Not quite “the same.” If you are going to argue that yesterday was the 16th, the differences are even greater. By the way, this is with Daytona having colder temperatures than average at the time.
I will give you that I have not adjusted the data. This is raw data before any “value” has been added.
Tallbloke:
It’s just weather, really, believe our computer model, it’s real.
Really no?
You dare to question your Lord and God academia?
(I’m kidding, satire being satire, never sure)
dright