Remember when Joe Romm said the I-35W bridge collapse in Minneapolis was related to”climate change”?
And again…
The truth, never reported on Climate Progress, is far different:
In fact if you search for the keywords: “heat, weather, climate” as a factor for collapse in the NTSB press release here: http://www.ntsb.gov/Pressrel/2008/081114.html or in the full report here: http://www.dot.state.mn.us/i35wbridge/ntsb/finalreport.pdf
You won’t find them. That’s because the failure is completely unrelated to them.
Well now another structure in Minneapolis has collapsed. 21 inches of snow in a short period was a factor.
The snowfall that ended Saturday night was one of the five biggest in Twin Cities history, National Weather Service meteorologist James McQuirter said. (source)
Fortunately it appears no one was killed or injured. Was it Weather, not Climate? Or “climate disruption? Climate blamers, get your game on. Watch the video below of the actual collapse.
Inside:
Outside:
The Vikings were displaced:
It appears Viking history has repeated itself:
The Viking Hvalsey Church in Greenland, abandoned when it became too cold to live there anymore.
This could be good for the Giants if it means Brett Farve plays…
They are not going to play there anytime soon…
Doesn’t just happen in Minnesota – several years ago the roof of the supermarket in Chama, New Mexico collapsed under the snow load. Another year a Toys’R Us roof in Maryland collapsed under snow. Happens all the time in a lot of places. Just not usually on video tape.
It ain’t climate – it’s poor engineering. Building that kind of dome roof in Minnesota isn’t smart – unless the warmists are right and its gonna be a tropical paradise. If you believe that I’ve got this ocean front property in Phoenix that you might like to buy.
For anyone who might be interested, Henry Petroski’s book “What made Gertie Gallop” is a good introduction to the subject of engineering failure.
Fart and you have to explain it’ aint Climate Change (Global Warming’s a different matter)
Here in the UK we have had a minor thaw but the cold weather and snow is due to return later in the week(with a vengeance according to Piers Corbyn). The Met Office weathermen are warning of further ‘disruption’ due to said snow. It’s a word they are all pushing hard in their forecasts. Perhaps it’s a mere coincidence or perhaps it’s a none too subtle attempt to shift the argument away from now highly toxic term Global Warming or the bland meaningless Climate Change, both of which former MO advocates now seemingly won’t touch with a ten foot pole.
REPLY: Let me get this straight. The Met office is using the word “disruption” in published forecasts? Can you provide an example? – Anthony
Rhoda R says:
December 12, 2010 at 11:36 am
R Gates, while you are correct, sir, it will still be amusing to watch the warministas talk about the cold being weather while the collapse of the dome is the result of CO2 weather disruptions.
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When I hear the ignorant talk (from either side of an issue), is causes me more pain than amusement…but to each their own.
Blaming everything on Climate Change has become a weak spot that undermines their case just like the overkill of alarmism.
So…
If the Packers can play in an open stadium , and their fans can stand it then those wimpy Minnesotans should be able to as well . Py yimminy .
I enjoy the “snow storms are a result of global warming” reports almost as much as I have enjoyed the warmistas abandoning the term “warming” for the hilariously vague term “disruption”.
The new scare, this time joined by the US Army.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/12/12/weekinreview/12shanker.html?hp
I cannot understand.
do people really believe that before Humans put their finger into it weather didnt happen all by itself?
my grandparents must of lived in a wonderful time. it must of never snowed or rained, been too hot or too cold, too sunny or too cloudy. The wind must of never blown more than the perfect amount before people messed it all up. I bet the sun didnt even rise and set, thats probably our fault too.
Nobby says:
December 12, 2010 at 11:46 am
REPLY: Let me get this straight. The Met office is using the word “disruption” in published forecasts? Can you provide an example? – Anthony
This is from the Met Office web site, but it’s probably not what you’re after.
UK Outlook for Friday 17 Dec 2010 to Sunday 26 Dec 2010:
Very cold and unsettled on Friday and through the weekend, with strong northwesterly winds bringing frequent snow showers to many places. Some significant accumulations are likely in places leading to some disruption, and with strong winds in places, there is a risk of drifting leading to temporary blizzard conditions. It will be very cold with icy stretches and widespread overnight frosts, these perhaps becoming locally severe through the first weekend as winds fall lighter. During the following week, it will stay mostly cold or very cold with further wintry showers in places and the risk of freezing fog. There is however a chance that some southern and perhaps central parts may become less cold for a time, but with a risk of rain, sleet and snow, particularly in the southwest.
Updated: 1147 on Sun 12 Dec 2010
The reason why the Warmists moved from Global Warming to Climate Change and looks like Global Climate Disruption is because they realise that the rest of us know that the Warming bit might just be over. Furthermore, it gives then an open field to blame EVERYTHING on climate change/global warming/disruptions/ (flexible pick options).
Warmists behave like a man who has been caught on video stealing from a shop then says that it was his twin brother. When records show he has no twin brother he turns round and claims false arrest funded by big tobacco. This is getting darn right silly.
Hansen, take late retirement now and head off to the hills.
Romm said snow would be a thing of the past. With droughts and heat, this can’t happen. Of course it is worse in the winter.
Vince Causey says:
It is possible to use the Newspeak dictionary, a la 1984 (Orwell), and make some additions to form a human centred paradigm
cold could be unwarm.
Ice -solid rain.
Snow – moist rain.
Sun – global warming.
Winter – heatwave pause
so that every natural event could be give to the invention of an artificially human cause attributed to the equally artificial notion of climate disruption
Klimate Kip says:
December 12, 2010 at 12:02 pm
Logically, it could be argued then that heatwaves are the result of global cooling. Remember, the summer of ’76 was when they warned of an ice ice due to Anthropogic global cooling.
Anyone who suffered heatwaves in the last 8 years, be warned that cooling is around the corner
Ms. or Mrs. or Mr. R. Gates
I would love to read your comments late next year. ;O)
*anthropogenic*, of course
Last year the Dulles Jet Center roof collasped:
http://www.thekathrynreport.com/2010/02/dulles-airport-hangar-roof-collapse.html
Uber-Alarmist Romm also blamed
climateweather for Tiger Woods losing the 2009 US Open. Rain in June in New York certainly never happened in the old days when we had perfect climate stasis.According to some of my relatives in that area, the Metrodome has collapsed several times. It collapsed three years in a row in the 80’s. You would think it would have increased frequency major storm frequency was caused by AGW.
Almost every extreme snow record still held is over 20 years old: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Minnesota_weather_records
Nothng significant in recent years. Oh, but that’s proof of Climate Change too.
“REPLY: Let me get this straight. The Met office is using the word “disruption” in published forecasts? Can you provide an example? – Anthony”
Maybe a misunderstanding here? Met Office (and UK forecasters in general) talk plenty about ‘disruption’ (e.g. to traffic) as an effect of severe weather, but not about ‘climate disruption’ as a cause.
Was it “rotten” snow?
Enquiring minds want to know……..
Perhaps this one really is due to the climate, as in the temperature falling due to the Sun going into a cycle of reduced magnetic field strength.
The roof may have fallen in Minnesota, but my Packers losing to the Lions means that the sky has just fallen in Green Bay…….
I’m totally on the CAGW bandwagon now : The APOCALYPSE is upon us! (:-