Climate Craziness of the Week: Soylent Green Earth Sim

Ecotretas writes in with another stranger than fiction idea, now coming to PC near you:

I’ve put up a post regarding a game that is being launched: Fate of the World. A SimCity like strategy game, but now with worldwide powers. It has all the ingredients: New World Order, mass murdering, killing people with special vaccines, even “processing dead people into ration wafers“. Unimaginable!

Fate of the World” is a computer game being launched by Red Redemption. It is a strategy and simulation game, putting the future of the planet in the hands of the player. Playing the game, you get to decide the next 200 years of Earth’s history, experiencing how to work out your own New World Order.

But worse than the game, are the intentions behind. Gobion Rowlands, Chairman and co-founder of Red Redemption, the creators of the game, in an interview to Edge, gives us some interesting previews of what might be going on in the game:

If you go to the US and the first thing you do is to implement a one-child policy and try banning meat, then they might just tell you to get out. Your agents can be killed, lost, blackmailed and kidnapped – so your agency gets taken away. I’ve just tried to ban meat here and the carnivores have rebelled. They’re not happy.

But when you’ve thought it couldn’t get worse, it does:

Under what circumstances, we wonder, would the US populace agree to processing dead people into ration wafers?

Everything is there. Regarding the New World Order, you just get it out of Rowlands words, in another interview:

So the year is 2020 and the world has done nothing significant to tackle the multitude of problems facing 21st century society, and then the first impacts strike and the nations create a new global organisation – the World Environment Organisation – and they put you in charge.

And what can you do with all this power? Producer Klaude Thomas gives you an idea:

Another example would be the simple expedient of removing a large proportion of the planet’s population from circulation. Let’s say with an engineered super-virus. The first thing to say about this is the obvious, that killing every last person in Africa would have less impact on climate change than getting Westerners to use 10% less energy. But let’s say you spread the virus around evenly, so everyone loses say half their family (the half who always get them crap stuff for Christmas). The trouble is, people don’t just conveniently fall over and die. Their friends and loved ones have to go and try and keep them alive, or always want to bury them decently instead of just tossing them in a skip; and then they spend time moaning and weeping and what have you. And that guy in IT who was fixing your laptop? He’s gone, and so, by the way, is the engineer who was keeping the power station running. So the rest of your society stops working so well, and that potentially puts your civilisation into a downward spiral as critical infrastructure falls apart.

Get it? I wondered who had sponsored this stuff? Didn’t have to dig much. The biggest investor in the project is the managing director of Deutsche Bank’s asset management arm – he’s in charge of all their clean tech and renewable investments globally. It has even made it into Nature, where you get a good idea that there simply is no solution for the game:

It is the year 2110, and the level of methane in the atmosphere has reached a critical threshold. You have a decision to make: accept the risk of global catastrophe and continue extracting the gas to meet the energy needs of an increasing population; implement a one-child-per-household rule to reduce future energy demand; or fund a decade-long research programme to deliver technological solutions.

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pat
November 6, 2010 1:41 pm

Can Muslims play? No. Just elite white limo liberals.

nonsense
November 6, 2010 1:59 pm

this is crazy – i don’t want my kid considering the effects of one country’s actions on another. if there’s a risk of our emissions causing harm to other parts of the world, unless we’re sure it’s going to cause that harm, we should get to keep doing what we want. the burden of proof is on them, not our risk-creating behavior. and if warmers end up being right, and subsistence farmers in Africa end up suffering droughts and bad harvests, it’s not our fault. i mean technically it would be our fault because we are the biggest per-capita emitters, but they didn’t prove it in time. if warmers had only proved it i would have changed my actions. i don’t want to impose involuntary harms on poor people on the other side of the world. but the warmers didn’t prove it in time – the only way they could have proved it before the harm occurred would be if they had used something like a model, but models are stupid because they’re not perfect. either you know, or you don’t. unless you can tell me with 100% certainty that what i’m doing is wrong, i get to keep doing it. heck, if iran wants to shoot nuclear missiles into the atmosphere that models suggest have a 90% likelihood of landing in the US, far be it for me to ask them to stop.

Dave Andrews
November 6, 2010 2:19 pm

Might appeal to ‘budding tyrants’ and bored senior executives but unlikely to gain much transaction in the core gaming market.
Still, Deutsche Bank have salved their concscience!

UK Sceptic
November 6, 2010 2:21 pm

An eco-terrorist training simulator. How…um…thoughtful.

kadaka (KD Knoebel)
November 6, 2010 3:27 pm

MartinGAtkins said on November 6, 2010 at 11:52 am:

Yea I can just see it. In the end, all that stands in the way of building their Utopia are the evil Denialists. What’s the final solution?

If it came down to that, many “evil Denialists” with long-range sniping rifles and rarely-used highly-targeted bombs. We “evil Denialists” are smart enough to realize it’s not a cure for a sick patient to starve the patient or cut out or off random chunks and pieces. We also can realize when the cure is the strategic removal and/or eradication of certain cells and structures that are threatening to sicken and even kill the healthy parts of the body.
Does this simulation have a “game over” ending where the randomly-killing plague or the energy rationing ends up killing the user? Strange how those who want to control such “for the greater good” games never consider their machinations can harm them as well. Heck, imagine their surprise with the following:
The rolling blackouts you ordered have caused the fresh salmon in the refrigerator to go bad. The sushi you had for lunch has given you food poisoning. The hospital has refused treatment due to your age and health. You have succumbed to disease and died. This was a natural death according to natural selection due to insufficient resistance to bacterial infection. You have been credited with a significant personal reduction in lifetime energy consumption and carbon dioxide emissions.
Play again?

rbateman
November 6, 2010 3:52 pm

Under what circumstances, we wonder, would the US populace agree to processing dead people into ration wafers?
I refer the strong of mind to the tale of the Donner Party for the answer to that.

Alex P.
November 6, 2010 3:55 pm

temp says:
November 6, 2010 at 11:46 am
“Science and history dictate that at some point after you pass from right of center to the left of center that you cross a line in which you can never move back to the center or right of center…”
While I agree with you it’s not a common occurrence, there are certainly examples of left-to-right shift on both, personal and social level. In my 20’s I firmly considered myself a communist. Over the years, I slowly started to recognize communism for what it really is.
And on a social level, when your American government starts implementing major collectivist agenda, then you take your guns, go to the White House and boot them by force. I will sure fly in from Canada to fight alongside, because Canada will turn dictatorial the second the US does, so it’s important that the battle is won!
So NOT give up your Second Amendment!!!
Ohh, and when you DO boot the government, add this to the constitution: “No Rothschild owned Central Bank.”

Mooloo
November 6, 2010 4:07 pm

Roy: thank-you for pointing out the obvious.
If you want people to take you seriously, trying to make black = white is not the way to do it.

Fitzy
November 6, 2010 4:10 pm

Man o Man, i’m so sick of the People Hating People trope.
If its not sociopaths in Hollywood blockbusters, renegade scientists in novels, or the entire EU parliament and US senate, its some bumpkin games developer.
And as always, their only answer,…kill people.
Here’s a better one.
Don’t kill people.
We’re in a 6 billion strong real time simulation, no undo’s, no reload if we f**k it up. Every minute, something hideous is happening somewhere to some poor b*****d, and the best solution the psychopathic elite have, kill em all!
Its about time the entire mob went outdoors, got some sunlight, and stopped being d**kheads. And if the can’t behave, we will patch this simulation with the Last Laugh MOD, a mix between the Norse Saga, and the end of the age of Kali Yuga….

john ratcliffe
November 6, 2010 4:11 pm

Turning dead people into biscuits???!!!! What are these vegetarian/vegan green gamewriters thinking about?? Dosn’t everybody know that REAL canibals prefer their food out of a big stewpot?? :-((
john r

1DandyTroll
November 6, 2010 4:38 pm

Who calls a game a computer game these days?
Disregarding the fact that it’s not really the computer that runs the game, but the software that runs the computer that runs the game, but any game is assumed to be digital in nature.
Christ kids today, when you ask if they want to join for paint ball, go sorry can’t, don’t have the game.
And you know you’re getting frakking old when you can’t decipher if they mean they’re not in a winning mode or they didn’t actually buy a paint ball game, because, apparently, they exist for sure just like them fishing games. OMFG!

Michael
November 6, 2010 4:52 pm

2020 “The world has ignored the threat of climate change”, and hundreds of thousands of people froze to death. While the world was duped into believing the planet would only get hotter, they ignored climate change could also bring colder conditions as the climate always changes. Scientist ignored the Sun’s minimum state causing our climate to change, and failed to warn the population of dramatically colder conditions.
The winter body counts kept rising into the year 2018 till the Sun came out of it’s slumber and began to reverse the colling trend. Humans could have prepared if they had not been so gullible and listened to the vested interests in promoting a need to stop climate change. Puny humans with large egos was the recipe for disaster. The accumulated body count ran into the hundreds of thousands of people frozen to death.

kadaka (KD Knoebel)
November 6, 2010 4:57 pm

rbateman said November 6, 2010 at 3:52 pm:

Under what circumstances, we wonder, would the US populace agree to processing dead people into ration wafers?
I refer the strong of mind to the tale of the Donner Party for the answer to that.

I would rather feast on roadkill possum before resorting to that. Heck, I’d even consider going vegan.

Noelene
November 6, 2010 5:05 pm

“Most cruel joke of all, however, has been played by Hitler & Co. on those German capitalists and small businessmen who once backed National Socialism as a means of saving Germany’s bourgeois economic structure from radicalism. The Nazi credo that the individual belongs to the state also applies to business. Some businesses have been confiscated outright, on other what amounts to a capital tax has been levied. Profits have been strictly controlled. Some idea of the increasing Governmental control and interference in business could be deduced from the fact that 80% of all building and 50% of all industrial orders in Germany originated last year with the Government. Hard-pressed for food- stuffs as well as funds, the Nazi regime has taken over large estates and in many instances collectivized agriculture, a procedure fundamentally similar to Russian Communism.”
(Source: Time Magazine; Jaunuary 2, 1939.)

David, UK
November 6, 2010 5:08 pm

PandR says:
November 6, 2010 at 9:35 am
I thought this sort of hatred was illegal. Why is this acceptable when what Hilter (only 9 million) or Stalin (over 20 million) did is not. They were both lefties trying to bring in a new world order for the good of all. Fortunately they were stopped.

Hey PandR, let us not forget which side we’re supposedly on: the side that supports truth and liberty. Hatred (or any other form of thought or emotion) in itself should not be illegal – although of course it unfortunately IS illegal in many so-called free societies (e.g. Holocaust denial in Germany). But that is thought-control, pure and simple, and no matter how objectionable one finds another’s thoughts, that is no grounds for making those thoughts illegal.
So I support the rights of these morons to produce these sick and twisted games, and show the rest of us the way they really think.

David, UK
November 6, 2010 5:43 pm

Roy says:
November 6, 2010 at 11:21 am

(O.T. but had to address Roy’s comment.) Of COURSE the Nazis were Leftist. They were socialist through and through, they hated capitalism and property rights, and believed in centralised state control, redistribution of wealth and so-called “social justice” (it’s all very well documented).
http://democraticpeace.wordpress.com/2009/05/23/hitler-was-a-socialist/
Sure they permitted (non-Jewish) individuals to own the businesses on paper, but control rested firmly with the state. The fact that they were led by racist psychopaths who revelled in killing millions of innocent people doesn’t make them “right wing” (unless you apply the Leftist definition of “right wing” as meaning just about anything objectionable, and “left wing” as meaning anything cuddly and caring).

DirkH
November 6, 2010 5:57 pm

Michael says:
November 6, 2010 at 4:52 pm
“The winter body counts kept rising into the year 2018 till the Sun came out of it’s slumber and began to reverse the colling trend. ”
Unrealistic scenario. Make that 2218.

DirkH
November 6, 2010 6:03 pm

Ian L. McQueen says:
November 6, 2010 at 12:43 pm
“From DirkH’s posting (November 6, 2010 at 10:09 am):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TEEB
Interesting quote:
“[…]It raises concerns that stabilizing CO2 levels at 450 ppm, or some 16 percent above the current levels, may condemn this critical, multi-billion dollar ecosystem to extinction ”
Dangit! That’s where all the money Ben prints ends up! Those polyps must be some smart guys.

L
November 6, 2010 6:31 pm

Memo to Roy Boy: “Nazi” is not a “contraction” of National Socialist. The party to which you refer is properly abbreviated the NSADP which, correctly translated, becomes the “National Socialist German Workers Party.” Now, what part of that name confuses you? Mussolini, Franco, Hitler, were “national socialists;” Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Castro, Mugabe, and a host of others were “international socialists,” meaning they had intentions (actually dreams) of imposing their toxic ideologies on the rest of the human race. History has examples of “right-wing” dictators, to be sure, but you’d be hard put to identify a single one whose actions disturbed the peace of the world in any significant way, as compared to the first group. Totalitarians are always totalitarians and what you choose to call them in your own thinking doesn’t change the facts. L

November 6, 2010 7:16 pm

Seamus Dubh says:
I’m sorry but I’m invoking Godwin’s law.

Godwin’s law isn’t what I suspect you imagine it to be, but what I suspect you imagine it to be presumes that there is nothing else as evil as Nazism (which is the only reason introducing Nazism could automatically kill a discussion).
But if, for example, banning DDT killed 40mil. people (and it did) and if reducing our carbon footprint will reduce the food-producing capacity of the planet and throw hundreds of millions into starvation (which will only be averted because the clowns can’t actually succeed in doing it) then it would seem a quite valid view for someone to take that there are things as evil as nazism going on.

Douglas DC
November 6, 2010 7:48 pm

Hitler and Mussolini were both Lefties. Nazi and Fascist thinkin was very little different
than Stalinist, Government control, no fee markets, favored firms and people,
if you were unfavored, you best got the dregs or got dragged to the camp, if not the showers…
This “Game” has the stench of the well-oiled Jackboot about it..

Russ
November 6, 2010 8:44 pm

The only good thing I can see with this is, maybe it’ll keep all those crazy Greens/Warmist/Alarmist busy in their new Imagionary World. Give them something else to do with their idol time, instead of creating another hoax of the sky is falling.

November 6, 2010 10:17 pm

It’s hard to avoid paranoia when I see things like this… But I’ll keep trying.
I keep asking the question, but not seeing many answers. Why do commercial interests support these kinds of things? Is it just to “make a buck” off the latest “meme”? Seems very short-sighted to me.

Dude
November 6, 2010 10:34 pm

PaulH: Trying to fight stupidity with stupidity, eh? Good job.

November 6, 2010 10:43 pm

Noelene says:
November 6, 2010 at 5:05 pm
“Most cruel joke of all, however, has been played by Hitler & Co. on those German capitalists and small businessmen who once backed National Socialism as a means of saving Germany’s bourgeois economic structure from radicalism. The Nazi credo that the individual belongs to the state also applies to business. Some businesses have been confiscated outright, on other what amounts to a capital tax has been levied. Profits have been strictly controlled. Some idea of the increasing Governmental control and interference in business could be deduced from the fact that 80% of all building and 50% of all industrial orders in Germany originated last year with the Government. Hard-pressed for food- stuffs as well as funds, the Nazi regime has taken over large estates and in many instances collectivized agriculture, a procedure fundamentally similar to Russian Communism.”
(Source: Time Magazine; Jaunuary 2, 1939.)

Yes, that sounds very right-wing to me.