Climate Craziness of the Week: Soylent Green Earth Sim

Ecotretas writes in with another stranger than fiction idea, now coming to PC near you:

I’ve put up a post regarding a game that is being launched: Fate of the World. A SimCity like strategy game, but now with worldwide powers. It has all the ingredients: New World Order, mass murdering, killing people with special vaccines, even “processing dead people into ration wafers“. Unimaginable!

Fate of the World” is a computer game being launched by Red Redemption. It is a strategy and simulation game, putting the future of the planet in the hands of the player. Playing the game, you get to decide the next 200 years of Earth’s history, experiencing how to work out your own New World Order.

But worse than the game, are the intentions behind. Gobion Rowlands, Chairman and co-founder of Red Redemption, the creators of the game, in an interview to Edge, gives us some interesting previews of what might be going on in the game:

If you go to the US and the first thing you do is to implement a one-child policy and try banning meat, then they might just tell you to get out. Your agents can be killed, lost, blackmailed and kidnapped – so your agency gets taken away. I’ve just tried to ban meat here and the carnivores have rebelled. They’re not happy.

But when you’ve thought it couldn’t get worse, it does:

Under what circumstances, we wonder, would the US populace agree to processing dead people into ration wafers?

Everything is there. Regarding the New World Order, you just get it out of Rowlands words, in another interview:

So the year is 2020 and the world has done nothing significant to tackle the multitude of problems facing 21st century society, and then the first impacts strike and the nations create a new global organisation – the World Environment Organisation – and they put you in charge.

And what can you do with all this power? Producer Klaude Thomas gives you an idea:

Another example would be the simple expedient of removing a large proportion of the planet’s population from circulation. Let’s say with an engineered super-virus. The first thing to say about this is the obvious, that killing every last person in Africa would have less impact on climate change than getting Westerners to use 10% less energy. But let’s say you spread the virus around evenly, so everyone loses say half their family (the half who always get them crap stuff for Christmas). The trouble is, people don’t just conveniently fall over and die. Their friends and loved ones have to go and try and keep them alive, or always want to bury them decently instead of just tossing them in a skip; and then they spend time moaning and weeping and what have you. And that guy in IT who was fixing your laptop? He’s gone, and so, by the way, is the engineer who was keeping the power station running. So the rest of your society stops working so well, and that potentially puts your civilisation into a downward spiral as critical infrastructure falls apart.

Get it? I wondered who had sponsored this stuff? Didn’t have to dig much. The biggest investor in the project is the managing director of Deutsche Bank’s asset management arm – he’s in charge of all their clean tech and renewable investments globally. It has even made it into Nature, where you get a good idea that there simply is no solution for the game:

It is the year 2110, and the level of methane in the atmosphere has reached a critical threshold. You have a decision to make: accept the risk of global catastrophe and continue extracting the gas to meet the energy needs of an increasing population; implement a one-child-per-household rule to reduce future energy demand; or fund a decade-long research programme to deliver technological solutions.

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Ben D.
November 6, 2010 10:53 am

How boring of a game, I could easilly beat it by simply implenting socialism everywhere..its not like a game that is made to tailor to socialist ideals is going to be original or anything.
1 child per couple, easy. Limit energy use…easy. Give money to the socialist leaders…easy. Scenario solved.

DirkH
November 6, 2010 10:57 am

paulhan says:
November 6, 2010 at 10:26 am
“I wonder was Franny a “concept consultant” on this project, because it’s straight out of the 10:10 school of how to win friends and influence people. Why do they hate people so much?”
They only hate you if you refuse to follow their orders.

John David Galt
November 6, 2010 11:06 am

Let’s do our own, more realistic version of this game. We might even figure out how to *beat* the tree-huggers before they drive us all back to the Stone Age!

oMan
November 6, 2010 11:07 am

Does the game come with exploding kids? Maybe that requires a high-end graphics processor and hi-res monitor…

john ratcliffe
November 6, 2010 11:15 am

PandR
November 6, 2010 at 9:35 am
I rather think that Pol Pot and the Cambodian experiment would have been a closer analogy for what the Watermelons want to inflict on us. And we all know (or should) how that turned out.
regards
john r

Roy
November 6, 2010 11:21 am

PandR
What sort of person claims that Hitler was a “lefty”? Yes, I know that “Nazi” is a contraction of the German words for “National Socialist” but a name doesn’t decide whether someone is right or left wing. As Voltaire pointed out the Holy Roman Empire was neither holy, nor Roman, nor an empire. If Hitler was a lefty then so were Mussolini, Franco and all the Fascist leaders in Europe and Latin America, in which case terms like “socialism” and “fascism” are completely devoid of meaning.
Most of the people who call Hitler a lefty seem to be Americans on the extreme right of the political spectrum who are unwilling to admit that right wing dictators can be every bit as brutal as left wing ones. The expression of such views in this blog does nothing to promote a more rational attitude to climate change.

Jimbo
November 6, 2010 11:27 am

It is the year 2110, and the level of methane in the atmosphere has reached a critical threshold. You have a decision to make: accept the risk of global catastrophe and continue extracting the gas to meet the energy needs of an increasing population;…..

I thought burt methane turns to carbon dioxide and water. Anyway, the game speaks volumes. This is what they fantasise about on a daily basis. Nothing short of gen0cide will satisfy these human haters.

November 6, 2010 11:34 am

They don’t know what else to do except brainwash kids. It’s pathetic.

ZT
November 6, 2010 11:36 am

Sounds routine fun at the Optimum Population Trust: http://www.optimumpopulation.org/releases/opt.release08Jul10.htm

temp
November 6, 2010 11:46 am

So I guess I’m confused just a bit by the arguments here.
This game seems like they did alot of research in to history and the future plans of leftwingers and put it together so every leftwinger can live out they’re fantasies today…
Does anyone doubt that the eco-terrorists goal is to create a classic socialist utopia for the whole world… does anyone doubt that this will lead to famine, genocide, oppression and cannibalism… hitlar, stalin, mao, etc all brought classic socialist utopia’s to life. History shows the results for anyone who wishes to read them or see them.
Anyone can see that the last non-left country(the US) has been steadily moving leftward for a long time… yeah it slowed under ppl like reagan and the bushs’ but clinton pushed hard and obama has the pedal to the floor… unless the tea party gets super majorities does anyone really think we can even move back to the center on government and economic policies? Reagan was hailed as some kind of centrist/center right hero… but in reality he mostly failed to stop leftward creep and really didn’t do much to push back to the right.
Does anyone doubt that the US will keep moving leftward. Maybe not currently as fast as the last 2 years but it will still be moving steadily left, were already pass the centrist mark for government and economic policies.
Does anyone doubt that collectivists are nothing more then cattle… and that given enough time and with enough propaganda that even eating humans would be considered “for the good of the human race”. Their can be no question that given enough propaganda that a large amount of the US would be enslaved into collectivism and thus would willing eat human flesh… and enjoy it.
Does anyone doubt that the US with our huge stockpile of weapons, history of being rightwing, having the most rightwing government document pretty much ever written in known history(The US Constitution) would be the mostly likely to rebel against the authoritarianism that leftwingers love…
This game is eugenics and the leftist ideology brought to the forefront, its every leftist wet dream come true. Being morally outraged is fine… being blind to the reality that billions of people consciously and subconsciously want this and work both knowingly and unknowingly together to bring about this utopia is to ignore science and history.
Science dictates that the two human ideologies are always fighting to see who comes to be forefront… be it collectivism(leftwingers) who seek control over everything and individualists(rightwingers) who want freedom. Humans are social creatures and tend as a majority to fall on the center and center left of ideological scales… but this also means that they’re are far more humans who are leftwing and far leftwing then humans that are center right and rightwing(far rightwingers don’t even realistically exist). We of course see this in the world, where 95%+ of the world is under some kind of authoritarian/socialist government… its really just a matter of how authoritarian/socialist these governments are. If the US keeps going at its current rate that number will reach 99%+ in not much time.
Collectivists throughout history have always stated beforehand they’re goals(stalin, hitler, mao, etc), they write long books about what they want… this game merely brings those goals into a single interactive form for the world and new generation of leftwingers to see. Rightwingers are outraged because consciously or subconsciously they know that its the true goal and that the future is looking more and more like its going to be a socialist utopia. Leftwingers are overjoyed because they may not in the real world be able to live in a socialist utopia yet, but they can create and mold the prefect socialist utopia they consciously and subconsciously always dreamed about…”for the betterment of the human race” of course.
Science and history dictate that at some point after you pass from right of center to the left of center that you cross a line in which you can never move back to the center or right of center… When you cross that point you are locked into a ever leftward move toward pure collectivism. You won’t be able to fight the government because the rule of law will always state the government is always right because the government knows better then you and of course its for the “betterment of the human race”. Elections become mere propaganda tools and the only option becomes open warfare to even move back to the center. Has the US passed that point… only history will know. Don’t doubt though that we are close to that point however. It may take another 50-100 years to bring the US into the socialist utopia but once we pass that mark it, will be pretty steadily moving to that point.
We should view this game through the lens of science… a warning of reality that can come to pass and what many in the world want. One should also remember that it doesn’t matter if global warming is real or not. If you can convince the population that it is through fake research and data then it real enough to bring about all the stated goals. It was the jews after long scientific research and the debate it settled… the evil capitalist(the expanded jew hating argument), on and on… all backed by “science”. Truth and science in the eyes of collectivists(leftwingers) is whatever the collective states that it is…

Grumpy old Man
November 6, 2010 11:46 am

Is the World ready for red button computor games?

MartinGAtkins
November 6, 2010 11:52 am

Yea I can just see it. In the end, all that stands in the way of building their Utopia are the evil Denialists. What’s the final solution?

Stu
November 6, 2010 12:00 pm

Heh, even I know the answer for this one…
It’s just a game 😉

November 6, 2010 12:02 pm

I’ve done some business with the gaming industry and frequently the investors don’t have a really good grasp of what the final product(s) will look like. They are investing in a business case. That said, the connections between the bank exec and Pachauri are rather interesting.
But I’m not as wound up about this game as I was about the 10:10 video. The 10:10 video was a call to arms and an outright threat, as was the Greenpeace “we know where you live” rant a few months back. This game dehumanizes human beings and is predicated on a list of choices that forces decisions by excluding real options. From that point of view it is a sick piece of work, but there are plenty of games that are worse. The question is does this game influence people to believe in global warming or to consider that culling the human population is OK? When someone is influenced by Mein Kompf it is because they seriously read it as a serious work. A sick twisted game is still just a game and anyone so sucked into the reality that it depicts is not likely to escape the downstairs bedroom in their parents house that they will live in until the age of 40.

Dave
November 6, 2010 12:06 pm

What am I missing here that makes this computer game anything to comment on here? It’s obviously a sci-fi-apocalyptic-type story for the game, but so what? Where’s the difference between this and any of the myriad zombie-killer games out there, for example?
It’s always hard to make a good macro-simulation game, but this isn’t exactly new ground. There are various head-of-state games, so the only wrinkle here is the one necessary to let you be world overlord.
Sounds quite fun to me, I might give it a go when it comes out.

Tim Clark
November 6, 2010 12:09 pm

Pat says:
November 6, 2010 at 9:15 am
Works just the way climate models do.

I don’t know how long you thought on that line, but it is truly insightful.

November 6, 2010 12:09 pm

Looks like a game Maurice Strong would approve of.

David Davidovics
November 6, 2010 12:10 pm

…..and remember kids, this is all based on irrefutable science.
Somebody needs to make a total conversion for a SPS game like halo or something. Fight against the new world order. That would be fun.
I could say more, but I won’t.

November 6, 2010 12:19 pm

According to that Nature article on this game, the developers hope to “encourage players to engage with climate-change issues and to influence their attitudes and behaviours.

Ian L. McQueen
November 6, 2010 12:43 pm

From DirkH’s posting (November 6, 2010 at 10:09 am):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TEEB
Interesting quote:
“The Update also underlines a ‘Coral Reef Emergency’ that is already here as a result of the current build-up of greenhouse gases. Scientists contributing to the TEEB process indicate that irreversible damage to coral reefs can occur at atmospheric CO2 concentrations of over 350 parts per million (ppm). This is linked with rising temperatures but also ocean acidification. Concentrations are already above this threshold and rising. It raises concerns that stabilizing CO2 levels at 450 ppm, or some 16 percent above the current levels, may condemn this critical, multi-billion dollar ecosystem to extinction and take with it the livelihoods of 500 million people within a matter of decades.”
IanM

Erik
November 6, 2010 12:44 pm

UNEP – The Swiss paper:
“—an extensive propagandizing role for UNEP that reaches beyond its member governments and traditional environmental institutions to “children and youth” as well as business and political groups, to support UNEP strategic objectives.”
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2009/11/30/document-reveals-uns-goal-rule-maker-global-environmental-talks/
“It is clear that UNEP must take advantage of windows
of opportunity to make its case. Like a surfer, it must
spot the waves it can ride. The biggest, most
magnificent political wave at present and in the
immediate future is climate change, and UNEP should
not fail to ride it. But it must find and occupy its
niche.”
The UNEP That We Want:
http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/113009_IISDreport.pdf

Stu
November 6, 2010 12:48 pm

Just expanding on davidmhoffer’s text a few posts up- which I agree with…
Yes, this isn’t as bad as 10:10, and really I wouldn’t say this is bad at all. 10:10 was an ad campaign, where the purpose is to put forth a message and get people to digest it- a computer game on the other hand, is about suspending the ordinary rules of reality in order to have a bit of fun. The context here makes it harmless, imo. As someone who’s been playing computer games all my life, I’ve not once taken a game seriously enough to imagine that it was actually trying to teach me something (apart from very specific educational titles) or put some ideology over me, and in fact the modus operandi of the typical game with its need to divorce itself from reality actually makes this very difficult. When you’re playing Fallout: New Vegas, what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas, you might say. Kids learn stuff like this fairly quickly… games are never analogues for real things.
And even if there is a ulterior purpose here and it can be linked back to a green/socialist/whatever ideology, they have simply chosen the wrong platfrom, they’re doing it wrong. When I have some spare time, I’ll probably give this thing a go, just to see for myself what’s going on here… right now I can’t imagine that after spending time with this game, some child would actually come away from the computer thinking that turning dead people into biscuits would actually be a good idea. It’s just not the way minds work when we’re playing games.

Alec, a.k.a. Daffy Duck
November 6, 2010 12:58 pm

Where has all the Climate gone?
Long time passing
Where has all the Climate gone?
Long time ago
Where has all the Climate gone?
Take temperatures every one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?
Where have all the polar bears gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the polar bears gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the polar bears gone?
Gone to eat tourists every one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?
Where have all the scientists gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the scientist gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the scientist gone?
Gone to get grants every one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?
Where have all the grants gone?
Long time passing
Where have all the grants gone?
Long time ago
Where have all the grants gone?
Cut by Tea Partiers, every one
When will they ever learn?
When will they ever learn?

Seamus Dubh
November 6, 2010 1:01 pm

I’m sorry but I’m invoking Godwin’s law.
This sound familiar to some of the statements of the 1930’s and 40’s

David A. Evans
November 6, 2010 1:26 pm

davidmhoffer says:
November 6, 2010 at 12:02 pm
I actually find this encouraging in that even if there is intent to pervert they’ve missed out on child psychology. Children will know this is fantasy & will probably carry that over to the real world scare stories & view them as fantasy too.
On another thread I said that kids would probably enjoy Eugenics for Wii, I just didn’t realise they’d get there this quickly.
DaveE.