via email: Statement by Viv Forbes, Chairman, The Carbon Sense Coalition
Today, 27th October 2010, is Climate Fools Day.
For the last 20 years politicians, jets setting bureaucrats and vested interests have been plotting how to make Climate Fools of the western world, taxing industry and consumers to fund green schemes, carbon speculators and international wealth redistribution.
The fightback by sceptical scientists and public was greatly boosted on the first Climate Fools Day when, in October 2008, British politicians passed with little dissent “The Climate Change Bill” a piece of legislation that future generations will come to accept was “the most absurd Bill that this Parliament has ever had to examine”.
Since then, sceptics all over the world have exposed the lack of evidence, the manipulation of data, the misuse of scientific process, the corruption of vested interests and the powerful influence of natural factors in climate cycles.
Despite the now discredited projections of dangerous global warming, the globe itself has continued its normal weather defining cycles such as El Nino, La Nina, the Pacific Oscillations, the powerful solar cycles and the massive ebb and flow of oceans and atmosphere. On a longer time scale there is no evidence that the globe’s long history of recurrent ice ages and violent episodes of volcanic and earthquake activity have suddenly ceased.
Unfortunately, a whole generation of Climate Fools will have to be rooted out of our parliaments before Climate Sense reigns again. We will then see the massive flood of community resources currently being wasted on windmills, solar toys, alarmist junkets, silly subsidies and climate bureaucracy will be more sensibly directed towards preparation for coping with the real natural cycles of heat and cold, floods and droughts, cyclones and earthquakes, vulcanism and ice ages. We will then regret the destruction of industry and wastage of real energy opportunities now taking place.
Climate Fools Day will be celebrated today by organised meetings of sceptics in Westminster and Brisbane.
Brisbane: King George Square 12 noon. More info contact Malcolm Roberts: 0419 642 379
PS for more information on Climate Fools Day see:
And on the activities in Westminster:
Cabal of climate sceptics to descend on UK parliament | Leo Hickman | Environment | guardian.co.uk
Authorised by:
Viv Forbes
Chairman, The Carbon Sense Coalition
Rosevale, Qld, Australia
Phone 07 5464 0533
Email: Info@carbon-sense.com
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Didn’t Cameron at the BPI say that he’d be building loads more off shore wind farms for the UK, know thats got to be a climate fool? Hey Cameron how’s Portugal getting on with the Solar panels, there like your wind turbines but better? The man’s an idiot when it comes to the enviroment.
Rick Bradford says: “One of the constant refrains of the Warmists is the question: “What would it take to make you believe in AGW?”.”
That is an interesting question and one my wife asked which has caused me to think about it. I think the key point is:
You cannot tackle a problem until you admit you have a problem
That affects global warming in so many ways:
– the abysmal instrumentational temperature record and the failure to admit there is a problem which means there never will be any money to sort it out.
– the abysmal quality of people in the climate “elite” and their failure to admit that they can’t do even basic stats without making a cock up.
– the failure of groups like the “scientists” and e.g. Wikipedia to admit they don’t allow open and honest debate so that they perpetuate group-think mentality rather than an open honest assessment of the evidence.
– their failure to properly assess and fund research into other potential causes/explanations of the apparent warming.
All in all, it’s like some motor salesman who pulls the cover off their second hand car just enough for you to see the number plate and the stuck on model number and little else and they say: “look I’ve shown you that it’s a real nice car – have you seen anything that doesn’t make you think it isn’t a real nice car – nothing? – well are you going to buy it or not?”
What will it take for me to buy the car? A saleman who isn’t afraid to show me everything under the cover – and even then given their past behaviour, I’d want a thorough engineering examination!
The political fightback has begun in Britain against the global warming establishment.
This is from today’s Telegraph:
27 Oct 2010
CLIMATE SCEPTICS LAUNCH CAMPAIGN TO OVERTURN GREEN TARGETS
Launch of “Climate Fools Day” in the House of Commons
Climate sceptics, including a number of high profile Tory Government backbenchers, are launching a campaign to overturn the Coalition’s “green” targets.
Climate Sense, a loose affiliation of ‘climate sceptic groups’, are calling for the Climate Act, that commits the UK to cutting greenhouse gases by 80% by 2050 to be repealed.
Philip Foster, a retired Church of England Reverend who is leading the campaign, said the legislation will cost taxpayers £480bn over the next 40 years because of the cost of new technologies like wind farms.
He said Tory backbenchers John Redwood, David Davies and Christopher Chope have agreed to attend the launch of ‘Climate Fools Day’ in the House of Commons. Labour MP Graham Stringer, who is a member of the Science and Technology Committee, also supports the campaign. Johnny Ball the television presenter is expected to attend the launch.
“There is no evidence that human input has anything to do with global temperatures,” Rev Foster said. “Therefore we should not be wasting any money on climate change through things like this legislation.”
The group, made up of “Copenhagen Climate Challenge,” “Weather Action” and the “Campaign Against Carbon Capitalism,” have also written a letter to the Prince of Wales on behalf of climate sceptics. It asks the Prince, who has accused sceptics of “peddling pseudo science”, to prove climate change is happening and is signed by 166 scientists including David Bellamy.
But Bob Ward, Policy and Communications Director at the Grantham Research Institute on Climate Change and the Environment at the London School of Economics (and AGW mouthpiece) said the group misunderstood the point of science, which is to disprove theories. He said the UK legislation was overwhelmingly backed by Parliament and is leading the world. “Nobody thinks climate change is not a problem. The discussion has moved on to what is the best way of tackling the problem and making a transition to low carbon growth,” he said. “These guys are a remnant group of dinosaurs trying to argue something while frankly the public and political debate has moved on.”
… Notice the “D” word used is not “deniers” but “dinosaurs,” which is an ironic word to use considering who is saying it …
Meanwhile a complaint against an Oxfam advert warning of the risk of climate change was not upheld. The advert read: “People dying thanks to climate change is a long way off. About 5000 miles, give or take.”
The complainant claimed that it had not been proven that people are drying as a result of climate change, but the Advertising Standards Authority did not uphold their complaint. This is the same ASA which refused to uphold thousands of complaints a year ago about the global warming propaganda from the Carbon Trust in which the fairy story (another bit of irony there) being read to a little girl at bedtime tells her how adults turning on light switches and suchlike will cause puppy dogs and pets to drown in the subsequent floods “caused by global warming”.
Here are the 10 challenges sceptics have asked supporters of the hypothesis of dangerous human-caused climate change to prove:
1.) Variations in global climate in the last hundred years are significantly outside the natural range experienced in previous centuries.
2.) Humanity’s emissions of carbon dioxide and other ‘greenhouse gases’ (GHG) are having a dangerous impact on global climate.
3.) Computer-based models can meaningfully replicate the impact of all of the natural factors that may significantly influence climate.
4.) Sea levels are rising dangerously at a rate that has accelerated with increasing human GHG emissions, thereby threatening small islands and coastal communities.
5.) The incidences of malaria and other infectious diseases are now increasing due to recent climate changes;
6.) Human society and natural ecosystems cannot adapt to foreseeable climate change as they have done in the past.
7.) Worldwide glacier retreat, and sea ice melting in polar regions, is unusual and related to increases in human GHG emissions.
8.) Polar bears and other Arctic and Antarctic wildlife are unable to adapt to anticipated local climate change effects, independent of the causes of those changes.
9.) Hurricanes, other tropical cyclones and associated extreme weather events are increasing in severity and frequency.
10.) Data recorded by ground-based stations are a reliable indicator of global surface temperature trends.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/earthnews/8088204/Climate-sceptics-launch-campaign-to-overturn-green-targets.html
Copenhagen Climate Challenge http://www.copenhagenclimatechallenge.org/
Weather Action http://www.weatheraction.com/
Campaign Against Carbon Capitalism
The Campaign Against Carbon Capitalism should organise itself into an unincorporated or an incorporated association and seek to attract members. To do this they need to contact some more people – at this point a large number is not essential – another half dozen would suffice initially. These good folk will have to attend a meeting to specifically launch the new association and elect a committee. A constitution and rules can be formulated and subsequently agreed and then such as a bank account can be set up. This will enable membership fees to be received and to finance such as a website and a domain name. It will then be essential for it to seek new like minded members. It will be absolutely essential for the Campaign Against Carbon Capitalism to remain independent of all political parties. This has to be a cross party organisation although it clearly should be “of the left.”
The Campaign Against Carbon Capitalism has the following objectives:
– To educate the political class and the general public about the reality of “climate change” – that it is driven by the sun and other astronomical influences and NOT man made emissions of gases such as CO2.
– To expose the trade in carbon credits and the whole new capitalist money making agenda as the monstrous scam it is.
– To encourage those most vulnerable to the sky high fuel bills coming down the tracks – i.e. the poor and the elderly, and those who seek to represent them – to learn the facts about “climate change” and to protest and to organise to end this scam.
http://www.british-gazette.co.uk/2010/09/30/great-oaks-from-little-acorns-grow-the-campaign-against-carbon-capitalism/
Tallbloke nails the irony of the first ‘Climate Fools’ Day’ prefectly – first October snow lying in London within almost anyone’s living memory (the year of the previous occurrence was actually questioned as to whether it was 1933 or 1929, as the records weren’t very good). Surely should have given anyone not wedded to the ideas that computers inevitably give you the right answer a chance to stop and think…
2008-09 winter was moderately cold in southern England, with regular hard frosts and a couple of minor snow falls, and was followed by a properly cold winter with quite a lot of snow (by UK standards).
And this Autumn has been pretty cold – heavy frosts a few times in the last couple of weeks, which is about a month earlier than typical.
Way to go, Viv!
How privileged you make me feel to be a part (tho small) of this (WTWU) and the larger international community minority of enlightened and unsullied seekers of truth!
“..lack of evidence, the manipulation of data, the misuse of scientific process, the corruption of vested interests”
What a remakable summation of climate science in the twentieth century! It only goes to show once again (as it has been many times before here in the Village) that any amateur off the street has more knowledge of climate at birth than the so-called ‘experts’ with all their pseudo-training and ‘data’! And, may I say, a comment completely in line with the introduction to the website of ” The Carbon Sense Coalition”:
“We aim to restore balance and reason to the carbon debate, and to explain and defend the key role of carbon in production..”
( “Material on this site is protected by copyright. However we encourage people to copy, print, resend or make links to any article providing the source, including web address, is acknowledged. We would appreciate notification of use.”
Scource: http://carbon-sense.com/about/ You are hereby notified about the use of this quote)
What a beautiful world it will be when not only individuals but also business and industry are free from petty regulations and restrictions. The ‘role of carbon in energy production’ will be fully exploited to the benefit of all mankind and profits channeled to cope “with the real natural cycles of heat and cold, floods and droughts, cyclones and earthquakes, vulcanism and ice ages” and eliminate poverty from the earth forever!
Meanwhile, as the good fight proceeds, lets rally to the cry of: “don’t waste those real energy opportunities now taking place” and “pass me that shovel, I’m going to dig for coal!”
Probably the biggest climate fool in the UK must surely be our chancellor of the exchequer, George Osborne. Last week he announced many sensible but drastic cuts to reduce our record deficit. He also reminded us of the most serious problem facing the world – climate change! Surprise, surprise.
He then proceeded to announce that he intends to donate £1 bn of taxpayer’s money towards developing “world’s first carbon capture and storage demonstration project.” See: http://www.nce.co.uk/news/business/spending-review-2010/osborne-commits-up-to-1bn-for-carbon-capture-and-storage/8607168.article Added to this is another billion for UK’s first Green Investment Bank, whatever that is. He then boasted a further £200 M towards the off-shore windmill business. And this at a time when our nation has just escaped bankruptcy!
But, nuclear power will receive no government subsidy whatsoever.
Unfortunately Mr Osborne is surrounded by nearly 600 other climate fools, of all political persuasions, who make laws in our House of Commons.
UK Sceptic says:
October 26, 2010 at 11:25 pm
They actually read the Bill before voting to turn off the lights when many of our existing power stations are forced to go offline without sensible replacements in the desperately near future?
That’s news to me…
I don’t have a TV anymore but someone commented here that the BBC announced 8 nuclear plants in a ten second slot between footy and food the other day.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/energy/8070810/Eight-new-nuclear-power-stations-despite-safety-and-clean-up-concerns.html
Stephan says:
October 26, 2010 at 8:17 pm
OT But dramatic persistent (now around 5 years) cooling of whole South America continues
http://wxmaps.org/pix/temp8.html
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How do you manage to arrive at that conclusion, from that figure? It certainly seems to be at odds with the NOAA anomalies (Sept 2010) , that show a very slight cooling of the southerly tip of South America. http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/service/global/map-blended-mntp/201009.gif
Please show me some evidence to support your claim.
Thanks.
In the UK we are constantly being told “we must share the burden of reducing debt” …. now where is that burden being shared by the wind “industry”?
No where!
These parasites on the national economy who weedled their way into the heart of government in the Nulabour days are still getting over a £1billion a year for what? Watching these bird-mincers turning round and round.
Surely if everyone else is having to contribute “their bit”, then whether or not you personally believe in the GW nonsense, you’ve got to admit the wind “industry” ought to be doing its bit in the UK and having its belt pinched. Come on government, what about a 30% reduction in renewable obligation – better still a “windfall” tax for raking in the money for doing bugger all for the British economy except suck it dry?
I have an invitation to the House of Commons and the ‘climate fools’ meeting.
(A stupid name, but that is my opinion)
Would Watts Up like a write up, of this meeting..
I previously wrote up a report of the Guardian Climategate meeting, over at
The Air Vent (Jeff Id’s blog)
http://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2010/07/16/barry-woods-on-guardian-panel/
27 Oct 2010
CLIMATE SCEPTICS LAUNCH CAMPAIGN TO OVERTURN GREEN TARGETS
Launch of “Climate Fools Day” in the House of Commons
Climate sceptics, including a number of high profile Tory Government backbenchers, are launching a campaign to overturn the Coalition’s “green” targets.
Three Conservative MPs voted against the Climate Change bill: Christopher Chope MP for Christchurch, Peter Lilley MP for Hitchin and Harpenden, and Andrew Tyrie MP for Chichester.
Tyrie is the MP for the constituency in which I live. During the run-up to our last, somewhat abortive General Election here in the UK, I went to a couple of meetings where Tyrie was speaking. He received a great deal of support for having voted against this ridiculous piece of legislation and was re-elected with an enhanced majority. It’s what got him my vote.
Remember there were the “Red Flag Laws” as potential equals – e.g.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_flag_laws
(I realise the source but it seems to have the gist)
With regard to the campaign to save the Italian weather observations:
Help Save Five Hundred Years Of Weather Observations
http://omniclimate.wordpress.com/2010/10/04/help-save-five-hundred-years-of-weather-observations/
After you have added your name and e-mail address to the petition you will get an e-mail message with a link which you ought to click on to verify the fact that it was you who signed the petition.
If you haven’t (yet) clicked on the link in the verification e-mail message it will say
“non verificato” in brackets after your name in the list of signatories below.
http://www.petizionionline.it/petizione/salviamo-losservatorio-meteorologico-di-roma/2200
Presumably non-verified names are likely to be ignored and therefore it is important to click on the verification link in the e-mail message you will receive after adding your name to the petition.
Australians seem to be the greatest fools. This survey shows they WANT a carbon tax. Please add your vote:
http://www.julie-bishop.com/
@tallbloke
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11564152
8 Sites for Nuclear Power Generation – down from 11 under the previous mob. But perhaps these remaining sites might well firm up as the cold weather bites and the winds and the tides don’t quite cut the mustard!
It does feel as if slowly, very slowly, the tide is turning. I’m fairly confident that in ten years’ time the nonsensical Climate Change Bill will either be scrapped or, more likely, simply ignored.
One aspect of the Bill is extraordinary. At the time there were no costings from the government, so they were in effect voting for a blank cheque. Months later the government quietly slipped out the costings: 400 billion pounds (around 600 billion dollars). It was guaranteed to be an under-estimate. Not long after, an accountancy firm released their own estimate: 1.2 trillion pounds, three times the government estimate. This is possibly similar to the entire national deficit.
And what will this huge burden achieve? Precisely nothing. Britain could probably put men on Mars with that kind of money. That really would be an achievement.
The ironic thing is that, if CAGW were true, it would still achieve nothing. It seems that when it comes to climate change and energy policy, common sense flies out of the window.
In the past I always voted Conservative, but no longer. I would like to return to the fold, but I will only do so if there are *big* changes in Conservative/Coalition policies on climate/energy and the EU. I simply refuse to vote for climate clowns such as Cameron and Clegg. Looks like I’ll be voting UKIP for some time to come….
Chris
I think its sad that Michael Crichton and John Daly are not with us to enjoy Climate Fools Day and the sweet deconstruction of the progressive activist ambitions.
Dave
I was in Aberdeen a couple of weeks ago. Hot? first thing I bought was a winter coat…
One thing to remember with the new nuclear sites is that the originally proposed government money has been withdrawn and these are now to be built using only private funding – the good news is it looks like EDF and Westinghouse are both continuing with their development works.
Of course the gov is still putting money into wind farms, despite the obvious limitations of these in providing consistent and reliable power to the national grid.
This is a really great birthday present for me! 😉
And my friends will all think I somehow promoted this…lol
JimB
It’s easy to poke fun at something this ridiculous – condensing emails to save the planet. It’s better to know that when you see something like this, to keep in mind that this is a suggestion now and will be pushed into law later. Every silly, innocuous thing the Left and their environmentalist wacko allies push starts small and before long it’s mandated.
Never underestimate the Left’s hatred of the human race and their desire to control it.
Ted Gray: This is the price the Greens extracted from Julia (twice selected, never elected) Gillard for the job of Prime Minister.
“We will then see the massive flood of community resources currently being wasted on windmills, solar toys, alarmist junkets, silly subsidies and climate bureaucracy will be more sensibly directed towards preparation for coping with the real natural cycles of heat and cold, floods and droughts, cyclones and earthquakes, vulcanism and ice ages. We will then regret the destruction of industry and wastage of real energy opportunities now taking place.”
Sadly, this is far too optimistic. Before AGW is beaten to death, the real powers behind it will have a new horse to ride. It looks like the new horse will be called “biodiversity”, but the route is the same: a massive wealth transfer from developed nations to everyone else, with lots of opportunity for tapping into the money flow.
AGW has occupied most of a generation. We will now have a new generation of well-meaning youth and and young scientists. Too many of them will fall into this next “save the planet” trap, thinking they are doing good, when in fact they are just being manipulated. Once you’ve seen enough of these cycles, they’re easy to recognize. No wonder us old folk sometimes get cynical…
Anthony
I would like to ask you to do a story that highlights the last winter around the world with snow over most of the NH, the cold SH and then compare the facts to the declaration that this year is the warmest ever. Clearly the two can not both be correct.
Climate Fools Day………. I like it!!!
We’ll make a tradition of it, to serve as a cautionary tale for future generations about the fallibility of Science that has been corrupted by political processes…. and the general inclination for people to be sheep and follow, panic and jump imaginary hurdles on a rush to nowhere in particular at great expense.
Climate Fools Day…. a damn good idea.
We are faced with the same political problem here, political parties in opposition to the people and very little alternative in the voting booth. Plus rabid voter fraud, and did I mention the politicians running from their record at election time.
They have all the loyalty of a street walker in a 30 second romance. Having failed to pass a cap and trade bill because of the fraud being exposed in climate change and opposition of the people, they are attempting to by pass the people and implement it through regulation. Climate change is the path to illegitimate power. Regulation is the new legislature for unlimited power. And its all in the name of saving the earth.