Michael Mann and Donald Kennedy

Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach

With Dr. Michael Mann out on the hustings selling his innocence, as I discussed a few days ago, I was pleased when I came across this clear explanation of some major issues in the so-called inquiry by Penn State into the Mann’s actions. I urge everyone to read it, and follow up on the citations therein. There are numerous other problems with the inquiry, but that hit the high points.

Figure 1. The effect of Michael Mann, as seen by Chris Bok. But I digress.

Here was the mind-boggling part to me. To my astonishment, other than Michael Mann, the people running the investigation of Michael Mann reported interviewing exactly TWO PEOPLE besides Mann himself. I was, as the lovely English expression has it, “Gob-smacked”.

Remember that Dr. Mann recently said:

My employer, Penn State University, exonerated me after a thorough investigation of my e-mails in the East Anglia archive.

I knew it was bad, but interviewing two people now constitutes a “thorough investigation” of alleged serious scientific malfeasance? The investigators didn’t even understand that the famous “Mike’s Nature trick“was a clever way of hiding adverse data, a big scientific no-no. They didn’t interview anyone who actually understood the issues.

Two interviews and close the books? That is a pathetic joke. Penn State was my father’s alma mater, Class of ’26, I’m glad he didn’t live to see how far they have fallen. Penn State should demand that its name be taken off the document.

However, because this is a story involving Dr. Mann, you know there’s gotta be more to it than that they just interviewed two people, there’s bound to be a further twist to the story.

Here’s the inside joke. The two people interviewed were Gerry North of the “North Report” and Donald Kennedy, the editor of Science Magazine.

Gerry North I can kinda understand, because he chaired an earlier (and also widely criticized) enquiry into Dr. Mann’s hijinks. So he was a friend of Manns, and he’d covered up for Mann before, keeping his committee from even looking for scientific malfeasance, much less finding any. So I can understand them interviewing North, makes perfect sense.

But why did they pick Donald Kennedy, Editor of Science Magazine, as the other person to interview? I have no idea. By a curious coincidence, however, there’s a back-story here. Donald Kennedy was the first scientific figure I ever emailed to try to get something done.

I regret that I didn’t understand the importance of saving these documents at the time. In any event, my email to Kennedy has not survived my numerous computer changes and crashes since then, or it’s there and I can’t find it. But I recall it well, it was my first appeal.

In it I pointed out that science depends on the data being archived to allow for replication. I noted the efforts by Michael Mann to conceal the data used in his infamous “HockeyStick” paper. So I appealed to Kennedy to actually use the policies and power of his journal, Science Magazine, and ask Mann to archive the data used in his studies.

See, at that time, I was kinda naive … ya think?

I got blown off totally. Not even the courtesy of a reply. Which I later found out was no surprise. Kennedy, as editor of Science Magazine, has often allowed the publication of pro-AGW articles without requiring that they archive their data.

However, you don’t have to take my word for the abuse that Kennedy has done to the scientific process. He is noted for saying on PBS:

… the journal has to trust its reviewers; it has to trust the source. It can’t go in and demand the data books.

Look, with all due respect, Kennedy may be the editor of Science Magazine, but that is absolutely untrue, and Kennedy knows it. Most journals have policies that require, not recommend but require, that data used in published papers must be archived by the time of publication. Kennedy simply has not wanted Science to uniformly enforce that policy.

The crazy part is, there’s no wriggle room. Science Magazine’s instructions for authors say:

Data and materials availability All data necessary to understand, assess, and extend the conclusions of the manuscript must be available to any reader of Science. After publication, all reasonable requests for materials must be fulfilled. Any restrictions on the availability of data or materials, including fees and original data obtained from other sources (Materials Transfer Agreements), must be disclosed to the editors upon submission. Fossils or other rare specimens must be deposited in a public museum or repository and available for research.

That’s totally clear. Data must be archived. So when Kennedy says Science Magazine “can’t go in and demand the data books”, he’s just blowing in your ear and tickling your tummy. Not only can they do so, it is their stated policy to do so.

Kennedy is also the man who refused to publish Benny Peiser’s devastating response to Naomi Oreske’s laughable claim of a “scientific consensus” based on her simplistic analysis of climate papers. Typical for the man. Steve McIntyre has an interesting look at Kennedy here.

In any case, there you have it, folks. The “thorough investigation” into Michael Mann talked to three people including Mann. One, Gerry North, had covered up for Mann before, as cited above. The other, Kennedy, had refused to ask him for his data, despite magazine policies requiring just that. Both Steve McIntyre and I wrote to Kennedy asking him to enforce his own magazine’s policies. He refused.

And after all of that, are you ready for the icing on the cake, the final twist in the tale? As you would expect, Dr. Michael Mann was one of the three people interviewed in the “thorough investigation”. Mann agreed to the publication of the Report of the “thorough investigation”. The Report Guidelines state:

A written report shall be prepared that states what evidence was reviewed, a copy of all interview transcripts and/or summaries, and includes the conclusions of the inquiry.

But oops … there’s no transcipt of what Mann said. Not only do we not have his answers, we don’t even know what questions he was asked. That is pathetic bumbling, take the investigators out and fire them, I want my money back.

And Michael Mann has the ineffable effrontery to declare himself “exonerated” by that grade-school quality report? Dr. Mann, you have not been “exonerated”. You have not even been investigated, and you are pulling all of the political levers you can reach, and making all the public appeals you can squeeze in, to ensure that you are never investigated. Like I said, I understand your actions, they make sense to me. In certain other lights, I have more skeletons than available closet space myself, so I understand why you are on the campaign trail.

I just want people to understand you for what you are, and to see what you are trying to do, which is evade investigation of your actions. It has nothing to do with “anti-science” on either side of the political aisle. It has nothing to do with politics. It’s all about you avoiding responsibility for what you have done.

I call again for an independent scientific inquiry into Dr. Mann’s activities. Yes, I know that may be fantasy. And I know that many people think the legal route, a la Cuccinelli, remains the only hope. But I’m opposed to that. I’ve been thinking about why I oppose it, and here’s why I don’t like Cuccinelli’s approach.

I grew up on a cattle ranch, some miles away from a small Western US town. In our world, there were certain unwritten Rules. Oh, yeah, we had the Ten Commandments, but these were the real rules, the iron of the social order. Breaking them meant that people would cut you dead socially, not invite you, not talk to you … and in a tiny town that cut deep. The four Rules were:

You could cheat at business, people did. Folks didn’t like it, but it didn’t put you outside the pale. You could cheat on your husband or wife, folks figured man is born a sinner, people didn’t like it but understood the human urge. You could cheat in a horse deal, that was almost respected in a strange way if it was outrageous enough and the purchaser was what we called a city slicker. But a man who would cheat at cards was a social outcast ever after.

You could steal, particularly from the Government, and still get talked to. People didn’t like a thief, but a man could be a good man and not always scrupulously return what he’d borrowed, as we used to say. But if you stole one head of livestock, you were a damned low-down rustler, and you might as well just move out of town.

Cowboys punched each other sometimes, that was so common it was called a “dustup”. But you couldn’t hit a woman. Likely leftover from the 1800s when there were few women on cattle ranches. Probably some men beat their wives, but if so, it was never admitted, and it was seen as a grave moral failing to hit a woman. Paradox, but go figure.

And finally, you couldn’t call the Sheriff to settle your differences. When my dad found out someone from a neighboring ranch was bonking my mom whenever the constellations chanced to align, he and the guy met in the middle of the only street in town, in front of the combination store/bar/post office/gas station, and they definitely had a “dustup” … but nobody ever heard of a “restraining order”, and nobody ever, ever called the Sheriff. Except maybe to arrest a rustler. If he wasn’t caught in the act …

I have (mostly) held to those rules without much change for a lifetime, which is why I hate to call the Sheriff on Michael Mann. I’d prefer that the scientific community would be in charge, rather than lawyers and Attorneys General and their ilk. I wish Penn State hadn’t folded like a frat party card table holding too many kegs. I have been saying for years that I wish someone with some weight in the climate science community would take up the slack, and call out the egregious malfeasance, including the malfeasance of Penn State’s “thorough investigation”.

Naive … ya think?

Anyhow, mostly I wish Michael Mann would summon the nerve to stand up and produce the evidence. Instead, he’s all about poor me, he’s exonerated, those mean politicians are picking on him, it’s an attack on science, we misunderstand him … bad news, Dr. Mann. It’s not science that people want to investigate. It’s you.

Anyhow, here’s a protip for whoever is involved with Mann’s ongoing PR campaign — an innocent man welcomes and even invites an investigation. He knows he is innocent and has nothing to hide. Pre-emptively fighting against the investigations makes it look like you have a guilty conscience …

I reiterate the offer that Dr. Mann can publish his defense and evidence and present his ideas here on Watts Up With That.

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rbateman
October 16, 2010 10:52 pm

I can tell you what Michael Mann was asked:
Are you Michael Mann? A nod.
The 2 inquirers then each told a story.
It’s all standard no harm inquirey. You don’t ask questions, and there’s nothing to find adverse.
The document is not available because there’s nothing on it except meeting times and signatures.
There, all exonerated.
Gosh, isn’t Penn State great?

Leon Brozyna
October 16, 2010 10:54 pm

[snip – OTT ~mod]

Christopher Hanley
October 17, 2010 12:42 am

Although not a US citizen, I venture to agree with those supporting the Cuccinelli approach.
The ‘HockeyStick’, which arguably has been the bedrock of the worldwide CAGW hysteria and although thoroughly discredited, unfortunately the image lingers.
Maybe the only way to kill it dead for good and with it the whole circus, is a successful legal prosecution.

Hilary Ostrov (aka hro001)
October 17, 2010 12:55 am

Willis, once again you have brought remarkable (and very readable!) clarity and focus in shining a light on the dark underbelly of “climate science”. But …

Mann agreed to the publication of the Report of the “thorough investigation”. The Report Guidelines state:
A written report shall be prepared that states what evidence was reviewed, a copy of all interview transcripts and/or summaries, and includes the conclusions of the inquiry.
But oops … there’s no transcipt of what Mann said. Not only do we not have his answers, we don’t even know what questions he was asked. That is pathetic bumbling, […]

… I (very respecfully) disagree with your depiction of this as “pathetic bumbling”. When I see “bumbling” what comes to my mind is comedic Inspector Clouseau (aka the late great Peter Sellers in The Pink Panther!). Ergo, “pathetic bumbling” is far too benign a description for the negligent (and malignant?!) but obviously deliberate choice on the part of the “investigators”.
To my mind, the “investigators” (or invested interest-ators) at Penn State would have been far more deserving of a small measure of respect had they said “hey, folks … we’re sorry … but we didn’t invite him to our patch until 2005, so we couldn’t possibly comment.”
On the to Cucc or not to Cucc matter … apart from agreeing with David M. Hoffer, I plead the north of the 49th 😉

stephen richards
October 17, 2010 1:11 am

Nick says:
October 16, 2010 at 10:06 pm
You just don’t want to get it, do you nick. No-one is a thick as you make out.

jim hogg
October 17, 2010 1:15 am

If Mann was an honest individual he would have condemned the investigative process himself, since it was obviously woefully unfit for purpose. I can’t speak on the evidence his “scientific” claims are based on, but the logic of his claim of “exoneration” in such circumstances gives an extremely revealing insight into his character.

Beth Cooper
October 17, 2010 1:31 am

The real climate feedback loop:
Data archived.
Sources cited.
Debate invited.

Aynsley Kellow
October 17, 2010 2:12 am

Willis, I’m surprised you ever wasted the ink in writing to Kennedy, He has form, as I detaile din my 2007 book, Science and Public Policy: The Virtuous Corruption of Virtual Environmental Science. He was certainly no independent arbiter suitable to bringing an open mind to considering Mann’s ‘science’.
Kennedy is a one-time Carter Administration public servant, active in the campaign against the Bush administration for being ‘anti-science.’ When asked what had led to this view among so many American scientists, Kennedy pointed to two issues: climate change and stem cells. This political campaigning might have played a role in his journal accepting an infamous paper by Hwang Woo Suk (Hwang et al, 2005), later found to have faked his results, because the paper had considerable political significance. The Bush administration had in 2001 decided to limit federal funding for embryonic stem cell research, and the House of Representatives voted on 23 May 2005 to override this executive decision. This was helped by the timely publication in the on-line Sciencexpress a few days earlier of a landmark paper by Hwang et al reporting a very promising breakthrough in the efficiency of production of lines of human stem cells, suggesting that stem cell research held great promise. What is more, the paper was by a Korean team, which suggested that the US was being passed by for leadership in this area as a result of the executive decision. Science featured the paper (which was not published in the hard-copy journal until after the House vote) in a news story (Vogel, 2005), and the story featured prominently in the newspapers on 19-20 May—just before the vote. . . . As one correspondent to Science noted (Martin, 2006), ‘If the Science editorial staff had paid more attention to the science and less to the sensation . . . the impact of this sorry affair might have been much less.’ A review of the paper and the journal’s failure to screen it out reached a similar conclusion.
Donald Kennedy wrote an editorial in Science in February 2006 lamenting the ‘gagging’ of James Hansen at NASA. He relied upon a report in the New York Times for the facts of the case, and lamented this (and the ‘gagging’ of NOAA scientists from speaking out in favour of a link between climate change and hurricane intensity) as ‘part of a troublesome pattern to which the Bush administration has become addicted: Ignore evidence if it doesn’t favour the preferred policy outcome.’ But Hansen, who must possess a remarkable ability to speak while gagged, had made a press release claiming 2005 tied with 1998 as the warmest year on record, which was represented as a statement by NASA, when NASA had not authorised such a statement, and the circumstances suggest a case of a scientist on the public payroll who not only did not wish to be bound by the rules applying to public servants, but wished to make statements on behalf of his government agency.
Kennedy also wrote in an editorial in Science on 6 January 2006 (in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina): ‘The consequences of the past century’s temperature increase are becoming dramatically apparent in the increased frequency of extreme weather events. . . .’
Kennedy’s involvement in heavily politicized climate science goes back a long way – to the nuclear winter nonsense, when he published with his Stanford colleague, Paul Ehrlich (Ehrlich, P. R., C. Sagan, D. Kennedy, and W. O. Roberts (1984) The Cold and the Dark: The World After Nuclear War. New York: W.W. Norton & Company, Inc). He is so close to Ehrlich that Ehrlich even introduced Kennedy to readers of Science upon his appointment as editor (Ehrlich, P. R. (2000a) ‘Donald Kennedy — The next Editor-in-Chief of Science.’ Science 288: 1349) after his term as president of Stanford.

Jack
October 17, 2010 2:31 am

Academic freedom does not permit lying or fraud.
In grade 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, 7 and 6 the math teachers insisted that I must show my work.
In grade 12 I proved to my maths teacher that I could do quadratic equations in my head multiple times, in front of the class, but he still insisted that I show my work.
If it is good enough for a school boy, it is good enough for Mann.
Can’t do them anymore, though.

Aynsley Kellow
October 17, 2010 3:04 am

‘Fraid so Willis!
Incidentally, the report of the review panel that looked at the Hwang case (even though, as I recall, it was chaired by a Stanford Prof, who was no doubt ‘sound’ in the ‘Yes, Minister’ sense) makes good reading. They warn that the peer review process should be even more searching when the political or economic stakes are high. I happen to share Kennedy’s position on stem cell research (though I do not think that scientists in any field should arrogate to themselves the right to decide what limits should be placed upon their endeavours).
An inquiry that interviews only Mann, Kennedy and (‘We Just Winged It’) North is truly risible!
Incidentally, I popped across to David Appell’s ‘Quark Soup’ to look at his take on the Hal Lewis resignation. Appell was one of the leaders of the e-lynch mob that went after Lomborg. What surprised me was how little traffic he now gets. There were all of 13 posts – many of which were differing with him. Some of his efforts drew zero responses. Seems to me the traffic has deserted him and others. Have others found something similar at other blogs?

Blade
October 17, 2010 3:21 am

This is a great article Willis. You have a real gift, a thoughtful way with words and your writing is eminently readable! Your attention to detail is outstanding and ranks up there with Steve McIntyre. I wish you would partner with McIntyre if and when it becomes time for his book to be written (because without your help it will be easily mistaken for a $100 textbook ;-). Of course you could also partner with Anthony on a book entitled something like: Climate Change Chronicles – Watts Up With That. That would be sooo massive (and pardon the pun, heads would explode all over the blogosphere). But you all must still wait a bit due to upcoming events: Elections, Cancun, ClimateGate Anniversary (Part-Deux ?), Satellite photos of Winter 2010, new Congress, Arctic Extent 2011 (pity the AGW Cultist, this is their year to begin drinking).

“I grew up on a cattle ranch, some miles away from a small Western US town. In our world, there were certain unwritten Rules. Oh, yeah, we had the Ten Commandments, but these were the real rules, the iron of the social order. Breaking them meant that people would cut you dead socially, not invite you, not talk to you … and in a tiny town that cut deep. The four Rules were: …”

I surely envy you. That is some very nice imagery, and very much unlike my ‘hood’ growing up. It is safe to say though that both (perhaps all) worlds develop a natural form of Queensbury style guidelines, an equilibrium, a thermostat society. What cannot be ignored though is the element of self-policing that negates the need for ‘calling the cops’. When someone assaults a lady or someone’s mother or breaks in or steals a horse or car, bones are going to be broken and scars can be expected at the minimum. This, well let’s call it peer-to-peer review 😉 is largely missing in our brave new world, and is clearly missing from the climate pop-science community. Thus we are left with a broken thermostat and runaway AGW Cultism.
What I find perplexing is that so many people somehow envision the Virgina AG as a replacement for the substantial contributions by the so-called skeptic community. Folks, it is important to multitask, and to be strategic, and work in parallel and be redundant. Playing offense on multiple fronts wins games and wars. Of course, this is not a game at all, and Cuccinelli does not work for the skeptic community. His clients are the taxpayers of the great state of Virgina (the land of giants: Washington, Jefferson, Madison). So IMHO this line of argument is a true strawman, Cuccinelli is completely irrelevant to the larger AGW debate. His investigation would only matter if the AGW Cult was completely funded by defrauding Virginia taxpayers, and that is certainly not the case. Folks can still decapitate Mann’s theories on the merits or lack thereof, please continue. Make it so.
Some people just feel compelled for some reason to chime in about Cuccinelli, as if it puts them above the fray (or keeps them invited to cocktail parties? I dunno). Many of us take it very personally, like someone is telling us screw your tax dollars. It is not a big stretch to someone saying give me your watch and is far worse than someone cheating at cards.

Keith
October 17, 2010 3:44 am

This will continue until Congress changes hands and cuts off the flow of money to these leeches on society. Vote on November 2d.

David, UK
October 17, 2010 4:06 am

Nice article – although the last of your “four rules” (which basically states “it’s better to resolve issues between you rather than involving them meddlin’ cops) only works if the whole house isn’t institutionally corrupt. In this case we know that the whole so-called “climate science” business is indeed institutionally corrupt (corrupted by money and Government). It doesn’t matter how many individuals on the inside scream and shout about how rotten it is; the corruption goes too deep and too high-up to be changed by any internal force.
Further more, the allegations against Mann warrant a criminal investigation. If this guy is guilty of the alleged behaviour (manipulating and cherry-picking the data, conspiring with Jones to delete emails, truncating inconvenient proxy data and substituting thermometer data (to hide the decline), running biassed models which favour HS shapes, etc etc, all to justify Government policy) then he needs to be locked up. So Cuccinelli has my support.

October 17, 2010 4:11 am

The reason I don’t like the the legal route is that it will never bring closure to the “science”.
No doubt, if Cuccinelli is going after Mann for financial fraud, he’ll most likely find something, like not spending the money on exactly what he said he would spend it on, or not following a certain procedure, or maybe even real fraud like spending it on a car or something. And we’ll all ooh and aah about every little twist and turn in the case.
But the Hockey Stick will still remain.
There’ll be no closure on that. The IPCC will still be able to use it, because it won’t have been shown to be falsified. Other “scientists” will still be able to get away with shoddy research and scientific fraud because there won’t be a mechanism whereby they can be called out on it.
All of Anthony’s, Steve’s and Willis’s work will have been for nought, because it will never come out in the court case. Indeed, if they pursue things further, they’ll be seen to be bullies, ganging up on him. And the alarmist websites will now have their very own “martyr”, and will be able to pursue their own particular brand of fundamentalism with renewed vigour.
I can understand people’s desire to have that smirk wiped off his face, but we need to be patient. The lies and distortions will out, and probably bring the rest of the house of cards with it in short order. This is a sideshow.

Manfred
October 17, 2010 4:47 am

David, UK says:
October 17, 2010 at 4:06 am
Further more, the allegations against Mann warrant a criminal investigation. If this guy is guilty of the alleged behaviour (manipulating and cherry-picking the data, conspiring with Jones to delete emails, truncating inconvenient proxy data and substituting thermometer data (to hide the decline), running biassed models which favour HS shapes, etc etc, all to justify Government policy) then he needs to be locked up. So Cuccinelli has my support.
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I agree with this. The failure of the inquiries has proven that an independant investigation is required which can be best offered by a judge.
And locking up a scientist would be a really strong signal. Even Republican haters in the US and Europe would have a hard time to communicate that this could have happened without good reason.

Paul Coppin
October 17, 2010 5:01 am

Cool. A new American aphorism is born: “Better to lose a side of beef, then the whole herd”. As someone who’s day job involves pursuit of fiscal malfeasance of taxpayer funds, Cuccinelli’s quest, if successful, will change the landscape of scientific research. Cuccinelli is looking at some things none of you have cottoned on to yet. Certainly, as information surfaces like what Willis has discovered here, Cuccinelli’s email addy should be on your cc list. Just sayin’…

Huth
October 17, 2010 5:01 am

I find your small western US town rules quite amusing and I like most of them. But wife-beating doesn’t stop – and the women have no redress – until it is subject to the rule of law, therefore that small town rule is unjust. Likewise with lies about climate: the damage these people have done and still are doing to society will only be stopped by the rule of a just law. So I support Cuccinelli. It is justice we need. Climate liars and world damagers need to be stopped and it takes more clout than right-thinking scientists and public have. It takes law-enforced justice, not amusing small town rules.

John Day
October 17, 2010 5:06 am

Methow Ken said:
> Best expose of the Penn State white-wash I’ve seen so far.
> This should be in the Washington Post and the NY Times. . . .
> But of course it won’t be. At least people can read it on WUWT.
I may be a bit naive (like AW many years ago) but I believe that most large newspapers have an ‘ombudsman’ to act as an intermediary between the newspaper and its audience, obstensibly for airing problems and complaints about the “news” coverage (isn’t that the “product” they’re selling?), sort of like a consumer complaint person.
For WaPo that person is Andy Alexander, whose email and blog links are:
mailto:ombudsman@washpost.com
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/ombudsman-blog/
For NYTimes that person is Art Brisbane
public@nytimes.com
http://topics.nytimes.com/top/opinion/thepubliceditor/index.html
I think it is high-time that these gents start doing their job and report back to their respective publishers that the “public” are not buying this massive scam (or their newspapers) anymore.
Perhaps they already know this and are part of the scam. But giving them the benefit of doubt, I would like to believe that they need to hear from intelligent and concerned folks like ourselves (not an angry crowd with pitchforks and torches).

ShrNfr
October 17, 2010 5:25 am

And therein is the reason I dropped out of the AAAS after being a member for 30 years this past year. The Scientific American and the National Geographic are also getting the heave ho of not renewing my subscription.

ShrNfr
October 17, 2010 5:32 am

@Huth – Reread the article. The man was not beating his wife, he was abusing somebody else’s wife. “When my dad found out someone from a neighboring ranch was bonking my mom” Yes, perhaps a more “hopey changey” society would have the guy brought up on charges and after a trial lasting 2 years be sentenced to 100 hours of community service, but he was damn lucky not to have the matter settle by the court of 357.

Janet
October 17, 2010 5:51 am

Willis, thank you for this post, you always explain things very rationally and lucidly.
I’m inclined to agree with you about Cuccinelli’s suit being not such a good idea, though not for quite the same reasons. I’m with Judd above, I would love to see that condescending smirk wiped off Mann’s face [and, as an aside: is it me, or are the asymmetric rings in the slab of wood under his elbow in that photo a perfect illustration of how dodgy it is trying to reconstruct anything with perfect certainty from coring trees?], and if he has been misusing taxpayers’ money he deserves to be held to account for it. But it appears to me that there is an insidious institutional corruption endemic in climate “science”, and all things connected to it, which has spread a very long way up, down and sideways. I’m concerned that it spreads so far that Mann and his cohorts will be able to lie, hide the data, and cheat their way out of it, thus allowing him to claim total exoneration again.
Yeah, I’m paranoid :/

starzmom
October 17, 2010 6:05 am

To take Huth’s comment one step further, and keep the small town analogy going, not only hasn’t the wife-beating stopped and the women have no redress, but everybody in town in ok with the explanations to the doctor that they have each fallen down the stairs.
Mountains of scientific papers are being written today based on the premise that AGW is happening, and these papers merely show more of how AGW impacts the earth. No one is even questioning the underlying basis by raising alternative explanations for whatever they are studying. If it takes legal proceedings to slow or derail that freight train, then that is what will have to happen. As it is now, we have EPA and state agencies using AGW as the basis for decision making and permit denials without any rule or regulation in place.

Tom in Florida
October 17, 2010 6:13 am

“Dr. Mann recently said: My employer, Penn State University, exonerated me after a thorough investigation of my e-mails in the East Anglia archive.
If using data from one tree is proof of warming then obviously two interviews would be a thorough investigation, in fact it might even be overkill.