And in an unbelievable gaffe, he’s told a whole group of people exactly where they can go:
It is probably the most ugly statement I’ve ever seen from a politician regarding a group of people with ideas that disagree with the politician’s own view. If it were a race or class issue, he’d be vilified. He apparently has lost touch with what it means to be an American.
From The Hill’s Blog Briefing Room:
“An iceberg four times the size of Manhattan has broken off Greenland, creating plenty of room for global warming deniers to start their own country,” Markey said in a statement.
And I thought we were past things like this.
AP, Boston Globe, and WBZ-TV confirm this story. Here’s the story on the calving I broke before any MSM where I said “watch the media” I should have said “watch the politicians”.
Markey, who chairs the Select Committee on Energy Independence and Global Warming, co-authored the House version of the climate change bill that’s currently stalled in the Senate.
h/t to Luboš Motl
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I think we, as Americans, with rights to free speech, should all remind Congressman Markey of what that actually means, especially those in Massachusetts who voted this man into office. His email contact form is here.
Below is the contact info from his web page:
Rep. Markey’s Massachusetts and Washington, D.C. Offices:
Rep. Markey encourages residents of Massachusetts’ Seventh Congressional District to contact him via e-mail, by phone, or through a visit to one of his three offices.
His Medford and Framingham District offices can assist individuals on a more personal basis with questions related to federal agencies such as Social Security, IRS, or the Veterans Administration. In addition, they can help with grant applications, service academy nominations, flag requests, scheduling requests for the district and visits to Washington, D.C.
His Washington, D.C. office handles questions related to legislation, agency oversight and general federal policy.
When leaving a message, include your full name, address, city/town, zip code, phone number, and e-mail address. Please understand that Ed receives several hundred letters and e-mails every day.
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5 High Street, Suite 101 Medford, MA 02155 781-396-2900 |
Framingham
188 Concord Street Suite 102 Framingham, MA 01702 508-875-2900 |
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PaulH- “The best thing we can do is to let these guys keep talking.”
Agreed.
If your congressman is so concerned about AGW, why does he have 3 offices with their commensurate heating, cooling and staff travel requirements and why is he suggesting that his constituents travel to these offices when he has email and phone access?
Is he exempt from reducing his energy footprint or is this another instance of “do as I say, not what I do”?
(from Australia, where we need our own revolution)
A remarkable example of the argument for “Term Limits”.
You could put everything Ed Markey knows about global warming in a small plastic bottle, and the walls would still collapse from the low internal pressure.
He’s just a left wing pol who knows nothing of science; what else would you expect from him?
“pat says:
August 8, 2010 at 4:49 pm
Arn Riewe
No body could be that stupid. That is on the level of Guam flipping over and the American flag planted on Mars by the lunar mission.”
Pat,
Stupid is as stupid does. Remember, he’s chairman of the Energy and Commerce Committee in the House. Read and watch for yourself.
http://www.pbs.org/kcet/tavissmiley/archive/200904/20090413_waxman.html
pat says:
August 8, 2010 at 4:49 pm
“and the American flag planted on Mars by the lunar mission.”
Say what? I missed that one. So if any others did too here is a link to the story.
http://www.zimbio.com/Congresswoman+Sheila+Jackson+Lee/articles/31/Breaking+News+Exhaustive+Search+NASA+Archives
Markey has been my rep for as long as I can remember. He has the IQ of your average doorknob. To suggest that he is a “left wing” pol is to suggest that the man knows his right hand from his left, which I can assure you he does not, or at least not without help.
As the warmers are those who are promoting a brave new world by changing everybody’s living habits, I would tell them:
“Why don’t you go ahead and move to the new world you are proposing? Please serve yourself, and don’t wait for us. Leave us and the majority of people with healthy brains living in the world it has cost so much for mankind to build.”
I know let’s call it the USA.
I think I know what to do with all of our cruise lines now.
This should be investigated by the House ethics committee as hate speech. This man is hoping that tens of millions of Americans will move to an inhospitable melting iceberg knowing that it would be their death sentence. He is sick and unfit to be serving the American people when he has so much obvious contempt for them.
I think we should just take back this one. It is roomier, and not shrinking, as the credibility of alarmist garbage like AGW is.
Markey doesn’t understand that it is he who is a “denier” on global warming. He is denying there is an other credible side in this scientific debate on the climate and whether there is any real change in the past, now, or to come. It seems he just bought his own ticket to his new country. Pack up your long johns Markey, you picked a rather cold and unstable place to live.
Iggy Slanter says . . .
“As for ‘I can see November from my house’. That is the Funniest thing I have heard in a month. I suspect it will be copied shamelessly all over the web.”
Actually, it’s been around for a while.
Markey = alarmist = act like God!
We the people of reason, who believe in individual liberty and the natural rights of man keep pointing out the hypocrisy, arrogance and thinly disguised agendas of the other group the Collectivists until we are blue in the face. It’s time to stop. All Colectivists regardless of their strip or whatever fake cause they claim to represent all have the same end in mind, which is to destroy the free market or at least bilk billions off of it. Anybody with any objective sense knows that there is no Human Made Global Warming, never has been, never will be.
So then, what’s to do done. The time for arguing with them is over. Long over. It’s past time we did what must done. They have to be resisted and defeated publicly and privately. This Congressman and every one like him needs to be simply thrown out of office, end of story There’s no way one can reason with the unreasonable. It’s that plain and simple.
“lichanos says:
August 8, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Oh cool it with the righteous indignation. I share your disdain for Markey’s bill in Congress, but the man was making a joke. A stupid joke, a joke based on his pseudo-science ideology…”
INDEED – Markey has become a bad joke for the whole WORLD to watch … and a sad joke to boot ….
But we have our share of idiots north of the magic line in the Great White North. The Mounties and the FBI may respect the magic line but stupidity crosses with impunity.
Al Gore said AGW has moved on from science (which is settled) to now a moral issue. Markey is carrying the torch.
Congressmen generally don’t have the time or IQ necessary to do their own research, so they depend on the expert information of well respected organisations like the National Snow and Ice Data Center in Boulder, Colorado.
“An iceberg four times the size of Manhattan has broken off Greenland, creating plenty of room for global warming deniers to start their own country,” Markey said in a statement.
Dear Congressman Markey: This is what glaciers do when they are healthy. Maybe if you had paid attention in High School science classes, you could see through the new federally funded religion of “Climate Scientology” Actual scientists and engineers can tell the difference.
“John F. Hultquist says:
August 8, 2010 at 5:29 pm
“and the American flag planted on Mars by the lunar mission.”
Say what? I missed that one. So if any others did too here is a link to the story.
http://www.zimbio.com/Congresswoman+Sheila+Jackson+Lee/articles/31/Breaking+News+Exhaustive+Search+NASA+Archives”
Apparently Ms. Lee is cranially challenged. Let’s not forget her “two Vietnams” of a few weeks ago:
Do we have a common theme going? Three congresspeople with the collective IQ of a box of rocks.
So idiocracy is the way to go, right?
Let’s step back for a second from the global warming issue and look at the way our society works in general. Say we have the following situation:
– there is a real and very serious crisis that requires taking action well in advance before its effect become apparent;
– it is of such nature that once those effect are there to see by all, it is too late to do anything to prevent it; the only way to prevent is significant sacrifices by the general population, which makes preventive action highly unpopular;
– not only that, the majority of people so not understand why we should be worried about it, because they are too scientifically (and generally) illiterate, and it is only a small group of scientists who understand it well
– those scientists are seen by the masses as belonging to the self-appointed intellectually arrogant “elites”
The above description fits very well global warming, peak oil, and our global ecological overshoot in general, but I am not talking about those right now, I am talking in general, there can be plenty of other such scenarios.
So can someone explain to me what mechanism is currently present in our society that will make sure that action is taken on time in such a situation?
Deniersberg , no government there , sounds like paradise! See everyone there! I get first dibs on ocean front property.
Markey = Malarkey
Brent in Calgary
I think, it is no big deal… just don’t go cheap, give us deniers whole Antarctic! When Manhattan and Florida are under water and island archipelago what remains of U.S. is constantly battered by class 10 hurricanes, that bring droughts, tornadoes and snowstorms, they (believers) will beg us for mercy!
There’s nothing unusual, nor climate induced about this. I copied a bit if iceberg information from the Britannica website, and edited for brevity:
http://www.britannica.com/titanic/iceberg.html
“Icebergs form during the spring and summer when warmer weather increases the rate of calving (separation) of icebergs at the boundaries of the Greenland and Antarctic ice sheets and other glaciers. In the Northern Hemisphere, about 10,000 icebergs are produced each year from the west Greenland glaciers, and an average of 375 flow south of Newfoundland into the North Atlantic shipping lanes, where they are a hazard to navigation.
At the point where glaciers or ice shelves meet the sea, water pressure beneath the ice shelf or glacier tongue interacts with the outward-moving glacier. Tides, which may have ranges up to 6 m in the Arctic, with small sea level changes associated with wind and swells, produce an intermittent increase and decrease in force on the protruding end of the glacier or ice shelf, and this results in the birth of a large monolith of drifting ice. Most Antarctic icebergs are formed through gradual break off from the Antarctic continental ice sheet as it thins toward the coast and exudes into the ocean as a great ice shelf with fronts hundreds of kilometres long.
Icebergs are produced at a rate of approximately 280 cubic km per year (67 cubic miles per year) in the Arctic and 1,800 cubic km per year in the Antarctic. Western Greenland is the major iceberg source area in the Northern Hemisphere
Quick question – have you ever seen climatologists talk about “the other side” as “rotten capitalists”, right wing wackos, etc.? I haven’t. They talk about the science and never about politics. While plenty of “arguments” from “the other side” are purely political. Like your blatantly politically motivated rant above.