I’m glad Dr. Roger Pielke Jr. said this, because it is long overdue.
“More than any individual — James Inhofe and Marc Morano included — Joe Romm is responsible for creating a poisonous, negative atmosphere in the climate debate. Responsible voices should say so, this nonsense has gone on long enough.”
Read the complete essay and the reason for this pronouncement here.
The Center for American Progress, the organization that funds Climate Progress, would do well to reconsider their spokesman on climate, or at the very least, rein him in a bit.
You cannot rein in a mad dog.
I don’t see the point of all the fuss over Joe Romm. All he has done is made public what a lot of the CAGW believers already feel. Last winter, I spent nearly a month with a group of CAGW believers on a field project taking atmospheric measurements. One of them brought up global warming at literally EVERY meal (I ate with these guys about 2 meals/day on avg) and loathed any dissent from it (first time I heard “deniers” said vocally in a sentence like an everyday word). Over and over he bashed republicans, Fox News, capitalism, church, etc (fill in the blank on whatever isn’t socialist). Oh, and he drove an SUV. 🙂 He made a huge deal over how the skeptics based their ideas on things that weren’t scientific, to then go on and praise a warmist thing that had no scientific backing in literally the next sentence.
The rest of the warmists at this field study were similar, just not quite as bad. Thus, their feelings go right in with Joe Romm.
-Scott
Free speech is OK but without rebuttal it corrodes.
Cluckers together became racists. If 20 guys told each Clucker they were a putz, maybe less blacks would be dead? Ditto apartheid…….
All our papers said how we should bomb Iraq: if more had said why? We, the people, said so but were disregarded.
Put Romm up with the most moderate, ruthless arguers of a moderate skeptics case with global exposure. Do it 10 times, 100 times. See what people say.
The Wall disappeared after folks said ‘basta!!’
Blogs here are back-rubs.
The fight must be at MSG.
I for one am glad Inhofe is fighting this CAGW hoax. And it’s even better that he’s on the side of abundant energy.
If the warmist agenda gets its way, the energy plug will be pulled on America. 10’s of millions will be locale-stranded and face mass starvation as the food supply and transport net atrophies.
Nobody sends their disaster-aid packages to the USA.
Joe Romm who?
He doesn’t seem like a real person, just a theatrically projected stage image.
John
Well as a former marine let me say any body in this country has free speech and I WILL DEFEND TO MY DEATH thier right to say what they wish [short of fire in a crowd]!!!!!! Joe romm can say what he wants and personallyhas done more for the sceptics than most people reliaze. Morano has a good blog himself but i believe he should not put peoples e-mails up for hate mail or whatever gets sent ,Inafoe has been our gaurd in congress thankfully despite the fact he is a career politiction, hate them,. I always wanted to do this HAPPY B-DAY to me.
Rich Matarese says:
August 6, 2010 at 5:28 am
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At 5:12 AM on 6 August, Gnomish had written:
“Roger [Pielke Jr.]’s deft bit of calumny totally stains an otherwise good article.”
In order for Dr. Pielke’s characterization of Dr. Romm (and in particular his description of the specific “attack [perpetrated by Dr. Romm as] …unhinged and bizarre“) to be calumny, Dr. Pielke’s opinion (including the rest of that concluding paragraph) must be untrue.
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Wait- had you noted that my comment was in support of C3, the misapprehension wouldn’t have occurred.
I don’t know if anything said about Romm could be called calumny, but I wasn’t suggesting that.
The article was about Romm except Roger has now acquired a self image that requires the exhibition of extraneous snark with any name he can drop. This is what has germinated in Joe to full bloom. I see Roger has germinated the same seed.
It’s all about Roger for Roger, for ‘blogs’ are nothing if not vanity, are they?
Very few have kept the high tone and most are doomed to never even get 15 minutes of opprobrium.
This one WUWT, is a phenomenal exception. The reason is self evident.
Did I miss some big fuss?
Just took a part time job. We are buying free trade yarns and knitting green booties and stocking caps for green unicorns. It will be getting cold this winter. Millions of animals have been frozen in Bolivia and our winter not looking good.
Does Joe Romm have his internet filter set to block south american Frost stories?
It is real It is sincere. he was on a talk show with mark Morano once and it was non stop insults, name calling and interuption.
rein him in a bit.
They will give him wider scope, i.e. more rope.
Al Gore’s Holy Hologram says:
August 6, 2010 at 8:39 am . . .
That’s simple as I have first hand experience here in Africa of this phenomenon.
They hope to be allowed onto the bandwagon and thereby benefit.
Anthony,
Joe Romm isn’t qualified to carry your briefcase. He is the Andy Dick of climate politics and will be remembered along with Rob Pilatus, Dana Michelle Strain and Herve Villechaize.
MrC
Rich Matarese asserts that there is a “current trend among traditionalist conservatives to worship [Federalists such as] John Adams and Alexander Hamilton … .”
Oh really? I’m sure that my limited experience among traditionalist conservatives makes any personal conclusions I might draw purely anecdotal, but I find that assertion by Matarese to be completely incongruous with anything I’ve seen. While there was much good that Adams and Hamilton did, ALL conservatives that I have known and read see in them the philosophical seeds that have germinated into the current liberal trends of centralized, big government — things totally odious to conservatives.
The accusation that those Federalists repressed free speech does not attach at all to conservatives. On the contrary, what I have seen is that conservatives are increasingly anti-Federalist, and would with today’s hindsight have not ratified the Constitution until the lacunas in it (through which liberals have rammed their agendas) should be filled. This rejection of centralized government among conservatives is hastened and heightened by their own experiences of constantly being censored in academia and the media and government.