I’m glad Dr. Roger Pielke Jr. said this, because it is long overdue.
“More than any individual — James Inhofe and Marc Morano included — Joe Romm is responsible for creating a poisonous, negative atmosphere in the climate debate. Responsible voices should say so, this nonsense has gone on long enough.”
Read the complete essay and the reason for this pronouncement here.
The Center for American Progress, the organization that funds Climate Progress, would do well to reconsider their spokesman on climate, or at the very least, rein him in a bit.
Discover more from Watts Up With That?
Subscribe to get the latest posts sent to your email.
3×2 says:
August 6, 2010 at 4:58 am
“Have to agree with Tallbloke – Joe is doing a great job and should be encouraged at any opportunity.”
I did so once, telling him he should refrain from being so soft on commenters with opposing views. When i visit the circus, i want to see clowns. 😉
Solomon Green says:
August 6, 2010 at 5:14 am
There is now so much money to be made by being “green” that the credentials of climate lobbyists and their political supporters should be given at least the same exposure as that given to their opponents.
They are funded by the EU and by the back door the UN.
Hoover Institution Stanford University
The EU Connection in Climate Research
by John Rosenthal
Millions of euros come with an agenda
http://www.hoover.org/publications/policy-review/article/43291
When asked what he thought about WUWT Joe Romm responded.
“On another forum, just this week I said exactly this: “Romm is a shrill, [snip], slanderous [snip]. [OTT for this for forum ~mod]”
Over The Top? Tell me I’m wrong…
In what way have James Inhofe and Marc Morano created a poisonous, negative atmosphere in the climate debate??? When I read this comment (and Anthony Watts’ assertion that this accusation was long overdue), I had to double-check which website I was at. I’m shocked that he would attack them this way. I hope the explanation for this slam is that Watts was merely applauding Pielke’s criticism of Romm, not of Inhofe and Morano. (But if that is what he meant, then he should have said so.)
Those who vociferously stand up for the truth against the deceptive and false scare tactics of the catastrophic AGW crowd cannot validly be attributed with responsibility for creating a toxic atmosphere in the debate. On the contrary, those on our side who keep silent or tone down their comments to the level of being insipid are the ones who help create the toxic debate. When the crocodile is attacking, blame the person who appeases the beast, not the person who stands up to it.
Solomon Green says:
August 6, 2010 at 5:14 am
There is now so much money to be made by being “green”
“Kermit the Frog famously said, “It’s not that easy being green.” He was wrong.”
http://network.nationalpost.com/NP/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2010/02/27/lawrence-solomon-it-s-pretty-easy-to-be-green.aspx
PJB writes:
“Free speech…..worth way more than what it costs.”
OK, you jerked my chain, maybe inadvertently. Fortunately, our founding fathers taught us that you fight to the death for free speech. In addition, they gave us a history of robust free speech. No other people in the history of mankind has enjoyed robust free speech. Those who came closest to us, the Brits, enjoy nothing approaching robust free speech. The sceptical fight against BIG AGW is a fight for free speech. It is a fight against political correctness, the most potent enemy of free speech that humankind has encountered. Orwell wrote about people who had to use guns to enforce their speech codes. He would be astounded to learn that speech codes can be enforced without guns. As regards Romm and similar folk, anyone who claims that the science is settled thereby proves that he does not understand science.
I agree with Pielke’s assessment of Romm but I disagree with him listing Inhofe’s name in that paragraph.
Senator Inhofe has been one of the few politicians who have consistently fought the warmists, I’m grateful that we have him on our side.
This seem strangely apposite.
Oops!
http://standpointmag.co.uk/features-may-10-how-the-west-took-leave-of-its-senses-melanie-phillips-liberalism
Romm’s attitude reflects his audience. There’s an anthropological problem that needs to be addressed, and it is…’Why, even in a democracy, are there people in the world who will go to any means and believe anything to bring about authoritarian rule?’
—
At 7:51 AM on 6 August, Theo Goodwin had written:
“…our founding fathers [in America] taught us that you fight to the death for free speech. In addition, they gave us a history of robust free speech. No other people in the history of mankind has enjoyed robust free speech. Those who came closest to us, the Brits, enjoy nothing approaching robust free speech.”
Some of our Founders had adhered to this dedication to freedom of speech. Not the Federalists. Despite the current trend among traditionalist conservatives to worship John Adams and Alexander Hamilton, it must be remembered that the Federalist presidential administrations and Federalist-dominated U.S. Congresses saw such measures as the Alien and Sedition Acts (1798) imposed upon the nation for the explicit purpose of suppressing “robust free speech.”
These violations of the First and Tenth Amendments of the U.S. federal Bill of Rights were responsible not only for Jefferson’s and Madison’s authoring of the Kentucky and Virginia Resolutions (which set the case for the nullification of federal violations of constitutional constraint, presently a hot-button issue as the several states now defy our Fraudulence-in-Chief and the unlawful actions of his National Socialist co-conspirators in the Congress) but also for the effective obliteration of the Federalists as a political party.
The Federalists were killed, gutted, stuffed, and mounted in the national elections of 1800, and never again came to power in this nation, dissolving to resurface under the guise of the Whig Party, which then underwent re-branding as the present-day Republican Party.
Understanding this, one should never wonder at H.L. Mencken’s fulminant opposition to the populists like William Jennings Bryan and the progressives such as Woodrow Wilson, who captured the Democratic Party and turned it against its heritage of free trade, sound money, constitutionally restricted government under the rule of law, and anti-imperialism.
He correctly hated the Republicans, and only came to an even more jaundiced opinion of the Blue Party during the reign of the sanctimonious “St. Woodrow.”
The Jeffersonian respect for free speech lost all genuine political advocacy in our federal government when the “solid gold” Bourbon Democrats were driven out by the populists/progressives in the period 1892-1904. The Republicans have never supported freedom of speech, much as they mouthe platitudes about the concept.
—
So true, free speech is worth more than its cost, yet it has cost so much (such as “lives, fortune, and sacred honor….” or something like that) that one hates to see it so irresponsibly abused.
So do not seek to muzzle Romm. Instead, continue to expose him for the McCarthyite that he is.
What does OTT stand for?
Your abbreviation search returned 21 meanings
Category Filters > All
definitions (21) Information
Technology (1) Military &
Government (6) Science &
Medicine (4) Organizations,
Schools, etc. (4) Business &
Finance (3) Slang, Chat &
Pop culture (4)
sort results: alphabetical | rank ?
Rank Abbr. Meaning
****** OTT OTT awa (Ontario, Canada)
****** OTT Office of Technology Transfer
****** OTT Over The Top
**** OTT Office of Transportation Technologies (US DOE)
**** OTT Off the Truck
*** OTT Office of Technology Transition (ODUSDS&T)
*** OTT Office of Training Technology (Chief of Naval Operations)
*** OTT Our Toxic Times (newsletter of the Chemical Injury Information Network)
*** OTT Office of Travel and Tourism
** OTT Optical Technology Training Ltd (UK)
** OTT Obelisk the Tormentor (Yu-Gi-Oh! card)
** OTT One-Time Tape
** OTT Operator Tactics Trainer
** OTT Ontario Traffic Tickets (OTT Legal Services, Inc.; Canada)
** OTT Operating Theatre Technician (UK)
** OTT Off Their Trolley
* OTT Ocean Tactical Targeting
* OTT Office of Technological Terminology (Technion, Israel)
* OTT Output Threshold Test
* OTT Origin Truck Terminal
* OTT Operational Training TestObject Type Translator *****
Outreach and Technology Transfer ****
OF TECHNOLOGY TRANSFER ****
Oracle Type Translator ****
Overseas Teacher Training ***
On The job Training ***
Order of the Trapezoid ***
Overseas Trained Teachers ***
Of Training Technology ***
On Target Technologies ***
Olsen Thielen Technologies ***
Over the Top That ***
Omicron Tau Theta ***
Of the Technology Transfer ***
Oil Tanker Terminal ***
Old Testament Theology ***
Orientation to Teaching ***
Over the Top Too ***
Office of Thrift ***
Offices of Technology Transfer ***
Old Tongham Tasty ***
Over the Top Then **
Oesophageal transit time **
Optacon Tactile Tester **
Optional Thinking Test **
oral transit time **
oral triple therapy **
overall treatment times **
oxalate tolerance test **
onset-to-treatment time **
Offer to Transfer **
One Time Transfer **
Open Team Train **
Ole Thybo Thomsen **
Olympic Tournai Templeuve **
Outward Telegraphic Transfer **
Open Tubular Trap **
Oral Transit Times **
Out There Technologies **
Overall Treatment Time **
Okuma Techno Thailand **
Open Track Times **
Oxygen Titration Test **
Other Than Teachers **
Online Training Technologies **
Opportunities Thru Transit **
One of the Transfer **
Ontario Traceability Taskforce **
Office of Treasury Technology *
Oklahoma Texas Telecomm *
Order of the Triskele Trimaris *
Other Than Tuition *
Online Teaching Tools *
Orascom Training Technology *
Order of Tamar Tigers *
Off the Track Thoroughbreds *
Office of Technical Transfer *
Optional Team Targeting *
Oregon Trail Travelers *
Oxygen Tolerance Test *
Objects and Tangible Things *
Objects or Tangible Things *
Observational yield Trial Test *
Ocean Tidal Terms *
Original Tremont Tearoom *
Osteolaemus Tetraspis Tetraspis *
Owning The Titanic
k winterkorn,
I would hesitate to compare Romm with Sen. McCarthy, who was vindicated by the Venona papers as telling the truth about the widespread Soviet infiltration of American society in the 1950’s.
McCarthy was caught in one lie, and was hounded out by a suspect press — which gave a pass to other Senators who casually tell lies, just like they do today.
A much more accurate comparison is Romm and Goebbels.
Romm is just a symptom of what happens when lies become institutionalized. [snip -OTT]
I don’t like this thread. Bickering. I hope WUWT will steer clear of this kind of stuff.
“Yes – well said Dr. Pielke. Romm clearly has “issues”.”
Issues? Sounds to me like he has a whole subscription. 🙂
Let Joe rant. He exemplifies the real CAGW crowd.
This is one of the most blatant areas of MSM anti-skeptic double-standards.
Some “random dude on the internet” blog commenter makes an overly harsh remark on a comment thread at a skeptic site and the big boys try to tar the entire skeptic community with it. The actual blog owner starts chewing the carpet at a major pro-AGW site and nothing but silence from the big boys.
Rich Matarese says:
Rich, this looks like language of escalation. He did an invaluable list of climate skeptics of high scientific calibre, which I was glad to refer to in my introductory piece; it goes a good way to counter the latest PNAS blacklist. His strongest word there seems to be “debunk”. Politicians may be a grubby lot but I’m glad to have two on our side.
Shakespeare’s Debtor says:
August 6, 2010 at 8:48 am
I believe it is Over The Top.
By “he” I mean Inhofe. My omission.
I can see no reason for the Center for American Progress to rein in Romm . He’s prefect for them .
Inhofe for president