Yesterday I posted an announcement about this odd press release:
Think-Tank Says Trained Chimp Can Predict Hurricanes Better Than NOAA… And Puts it to the Test
Today, in a strange twist of timing, NOAA makes this press release about their hurricane announcement:
Contact: Chris Vaccaro
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
202-482-6090 May 19, 2010
NOAA’s Atlantic hurricane outlook postponed
NOAA’s Atlantic hurricane outlook announcement originally scheduled for tomorrow is now scheduled to take place next Thursday in Washington, D.C.
A new media advisory with full details will be issued shortly.
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Hmmm. Makes me wonder if the numbers the chimp came up with were the same as what NOAA came up with. NOAA sent this via email, which I’ve verified…
Received: from mmp3.nems.noaa.gov ([140.90.121.158])
…but it hasn’t shown up in the press release archive yet. It will be interesting to see what they come up with in the delayed release and what the explanation will be (if any) on why the delay occurred.
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David Ball: “Wouldn’t the world be a better place if we engaged in warfare the way chimpanzees do? Flinging feces and all.”
David,
Chimpanzees commit murder, infanticide, and tribal warfare, just as humans do. However, the chimps are dominated by their modest intelligence coupled with feral urges and rudimentary tribal mores. It makes for brutal rivalries, dictatorships, and purges. Human mores, philosophy, and theology strive to raise human behavior above such, with some varied successes.
To answer your question:
No. The world would not be a better place if we acted more like chimps. At the risk of insulting all simians, we already have far too many humans acting like our more base relatives now.
Perhaps they’re taking the advice I would have given them:
Best to keep your mouth shut and let the world think you a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.
way off base here, but is there any possibility that the oil spreading in the gulf could actually dampen hurricanes?
if not, then there could be way worse enviromental damage if the surge flows are particulary strong this season…
🙁
“NOAA’s Atlantic hurricane outlook announcement originally scheduled for tomorrow is now scheduled to take place next Thursday in Washington, D.C.”
It seems NOAA can’t even successfully predict when they are going to make an announcement.
Oh dear!
I hope the globull warmers dont read this;
Sure am looking forward to reading about it in the Grauniad too;
http://preview.bloomberg.com/news/2010-05-18/four-gorillas-killed-by-extreme-cold-weather-in-rwanda-new-times-reports.html
Currently checking the chimp’s immigration status.
Don Easterbrook is predicting two decades of cooling, then resuming the same 30 year half cycle we’ve been tossing around here for years.
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/05/19/global-cooling-scientists-warming/
I’m betting that next week’s announcement in Washington is somehow going to be tied to either the EPA’s greenhouse gas regulations or the Tax & Ration bill.
stay tuned
Very odd, NOAA’s schedule in the past has been to lead the Klotzbach/Gray forecast by a couple days which deflects attention from that one. Their new date is one day after Klotzbach/Gray release.
See http://tropical.atmos.colostate.edu/
Michael says:
May 19, 2010 at 10:39 am
Are you referring to the forecast count (zero) or the forecast reason (2 year solar minimum). I explain the weak season as due to the El Nino producing wind shear, and that prevented a lot of tropical storm development.
How much data do you have demonstrating a link between solar minima and Florida hurricanes?
David Ball says:
May 19, 2010 at 9:50 am
Wouldn’t the world be a better place if we engaged in warfare the way chimpanzees do? Flinging feces and all. Bullets are much, much harder to clean off.
Sorry Dave, you have a very quaint idea of how chimps fight. See: http://harvardmagazine.com/1997/01/right.chimp.html
Also, to all of you who believe that chimps have better short-term memories than grad students, don’t believe it. The chimps are professionals. That’s how they get their treats or currency. If I spent a few years in a cage where my only tasty food was earned via the memorization game, I’d beat the hell out of the chimps.
What can you say…it get’s weirder……and……weirder….
A human with no knowledge of numbers is a Democrat
Is it allowed to ask and is it possible to get an answer to the question, who and what is Steve(n) Goddard, please ?
Has he do do with these publications ?
Reason for my question is, that often it’s referred to Steve(n), but a lot of alarmists and AGWists claim he doesn’t exist or it’s a fake name and he has nothing to do withclimate research as actually it’s dicussed here in a German Blogg.
Thanks !!
NOAA’s forecasts are a joke anyway. Here is the forecast from last year.
As is happens, in 2009 there were 9 named storms, 3 hurricanes, of which 2 were major hurricanes, so the forecast is arguably accurate, within the enormous range they give themselves. Heck, all they have to do is predict a 66% of an average season, a 16% of an above-average season, and a 16% chance of a below average season, and they will be 100% accurate every time.
Don B
But the science is settled………
Didn’t they tell you?
Let’s see…they’ve just started talking about the big asphalt volcanoes in the Pacific, right? California isn’t known for its hurricanes. What if the big oil leak in the Gulf of Mexico finally solidifies and forms an asphalt shield which causes the Atlantic hurricanes to stifle when they get to that part of the world? Assuming we sue BP to death, would they come back and demand their money back if it was found that an asphalt blanket on the floor of the Gulf kept damage from hurricanes down?
Hurricane viewing explodes as co2 continues to rise:
http://talkingabouttheweather.wordpress.com/2010/05/17/number-of-hours-spent-watching-hurricanes-skyrockets/
If you chained a thousand monkeys to a thousand workstations, how long would it take them to create an accurate Atlantic hurricane forecast?
@ur momisugly Krishna Gans
I don’t know for sure, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it was indeed the same Steve Goddard in your list of publications. He seems to be a pretty bright fellow. Most of us here haven’t ever met face to face, so we don’t really know if we are who we say we are. All of the posts here could be from the same person with a multi-personality disorder. :-). Steve certainly contributes many posts here. You should stick around, I’m sure he’ll be either posting an article or watching the threads at some point today.
cheetah says:
May 19, 2010 at 10:57 am
the lottery numbers for saturday will be 1,3,19,20,21,22
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(Robt notes that cheetah very cleverly did not say which lottery. Nor which Saturday of which year those numbers may be selected…..)
“Extreme cold kills gorillas in Rwanda” :
http://www.climatechangefraud.com/climate-reports/6983-forget-global-warming-and-polar-bears-extreme-cold-kills-gorillas-in-rwanda
@James Baldwin Sexton
Thanks for the first hint here. What I’m curious about is, that he seems to write under 2 pseudos, Steve and Steven…..
Their only way out is to name any shower (even those in bathrooms) as a hurricane. Kind of the latest sunspots counting.
Krishna Gans says:
May 19, 2010 at 1:18 pm
@James Baldwin Sexton
Thanks for the first hint here. What I’m curious about is, that he seems to write under 2 pseudos, Steve and Steven…..
I’m certain if you catch him here, you’ll have the opportunity to ask him. Perhaps it depends on his mood. In some circles, people call me Jim, others James. Steve seems very forthcoming so I’m sure he’ll tell you as soon as you can make contact.
Joe Bastardi is talking of a heavy hurricane season