Guest Post by Willis Eschenbach
Following up on the excellent initiative of Dr. Judith Curry (see Judith’s post and my response ), I would like to see what I can do to rebuild the justifiably lost trust in climate science. I want to bring some clarity to terms which are used all the time but which don’t seem to have an agreed upon meaning. In the process, I want to detail my own beliefs about the climate and how it works.
Figure 1. Dr Judith Curry tries to warn the greenhouse warming scientists … from Cartoons By Josh.
I don’t know about you, but I’m weary of the vague statements that characterise many of the discussions about climate change. These range from the subtle to the ridiculous. An example would be “I believe in climate change”. Given that the climate has been changing since there has been climate, what does that mean?
We also hear that there is a “consensus” … but when you ask for the actual content of the consensus, what exactly are the shared beliefs, a great silence ensues.
Often we see people being called unpleasant terms like “deniers”, with the ugly overtones of “Holocaust deniers”. I’ve been called that myself many times … but what is it that I am being accused of denying?
In an attempt to cut through the mashed potatoes and get to the meat, let me explain in question and answer format what I believe, and provide some citations for my claims. (These are only indicative citations from among many I could provide on each topic.) I will also indicate how much scientific agreement I think there is on the questions. First, some introductory questions.
Preface Question 1. Do you consider yourself an environmentalist?
I bring this up to get rid of the canard that people who don’t believe the “consensus science” on global warming are evil people who don’t care about the planet. I am a passionate environmentalist, and I have been so since 1962 when I first read Silent Spring upon its publication. I believe that we have an obligation to respect the natural ecosystems that we live among. My reasons are simple. First, we have a responsibility to be good guests and good stewards here on this amazing planet. Second, I worked extensively in my life as a commercial fisherman, and I would like for my grandchildren to have the same opportunity. The only way to do this is to monitor and be careful with our effects on the earth and the biosphere.
Preface Question 2. What single word would you choose to describe your position on climate science?
Heretic. I am neither an anthopogenic global warming (AGW) supporter nor a skeptic, I believe the entire current climate paradigm is incorrect.
Question 1. Does the earth have a preferred temperature which is actively maintained by the climate system?
To me this is the question that we should answer first. I believe that the answer is yes. Despite millennia-long volcanic eruptions, despite being struck by monstrous asteroids, despite changes in the position of the continents, as near as we can tell the average temperature of the earth has only varied by about plus or minus three percent in the last half-billion years. Over the last ten thousand years, the temperature has only varied by plus or minus one percent. Over the last 150 years, the average temperature has only varied by plus or minus 0.3%. For a system as complex and ever-changing as the climate, this is nothing short of astounding.
Before asking any other questions about the climate, we must ask why the climate has been so stable. Until we answer that question, trying to calculate the climate sensitivity is an exercise in futility.
I have explained in “The Thermostat Hypothesis” what I think is the mechanism responsible for this unexplained stability. My explanation may be wrong, but there must be some mechanism which has kept the global temperature within plus or minus 1% for ten thousand years.
I am, however, definitely in the minority with this opinion.
Question 2. Regarding human effects on climate, what is the null hypothesis?
If we are trying to see if humans have affected the climate, the null hypothesis has to be that any changes in the climate (e.g. changes in temperature, rainfall, snow extent, sea ice coverage, drought occurrence and severity) are due to natural variations.
Question 3. What observations tend to support or reject the null hypothesis?
As I show in “Congenital Climate Abnormalities”, not only are there no “fingerprints” of human effects in the records, but I find nothing that is in any way unusual or anomalous. Yes, the earth’s temperature is changing slightly … but that has been true since the earth has had a temperature.
There is no indication that the recent warming is any different from past warmings. There is more and more evidence that the Medieval Warm period was widespread, and that it was warmer than the present. The Greenland ice cores show that we are at the cold end of the Holocene (the current inter-glacial period). There have been no significant changes in rainfall, floods, sea level rise, Arctic temperatures, or other indicators.
In short, I find no climate metrics that show anything which is anomalous or outside of historical natural variations. In the absence of such evidence, we cannot reject the null hypothesis.
Question 4. Is the globe warming?
This is a trick question. It is a perfect example of a frequently asked question which is totally meaningless. It shows up all the time on public opinion polls, but it is devoid of meaning. To make it meaningful, it needs to have a time period attached to it. Here are some examples of my views on the question:
1 During the last century, the earth warmed slightly (less than 1°C).
2 The earth has generally cooled over the last 12,000 years. We are currently at the cold end of the Holocene (the period since the end of the last Ice Age. See the Greenland and Vostok ice records.
3 The earth has generally warmed since the depths of the Little Ice Age around 1650, at a rate somewhere around a half a degree Celsius per century. See Akasufo, the Central England Temperature (CET), and the Armagh records.
4 The largest warming in any instrumental record occurred around 1680 – 1730. See the CET and Armagh records.
5 The earth was either stable or cooled slightly from about 1945 to 1975.
6 The earth warmed slightly from about 1975 to 1998.
7 There has been no significant warming from 1995 to the present (Feb. 2010). See The Reference Frame, Phil Jones.
I would say that there is widespread scientific agreement on the existence of these general trends. The amount of the warming, however, is far less certain. There is current controversy about both the accuracy of the adjustments to the temperature measurements and the strength of local effects (UHI, poor station siting, warmth from irrigation, etc.). See e.g. McKitrick, Spencer, Christy and Norris, Ladochy et al.., Watts, SurfaceStations, and Jones on these questions.
Question 5. Are humans responsible for global warming?
This is another trick question that often shows up on polls. The question suffers from two problems. First is the lack of a time period discussed above. The second is the question of the amount of responsibility. Generally, the period under discussion is the post-1900 warming. So let me rephrase the question as “Are humans responsible for some part of the late 20th century warming?”
To this question I would say “Yes”. Again, there is widespread scientific agreement on that simplistic question, but as usual, the devil is in the details discussed in Question 4.
Question 6. If the answer to Question 5 is “Yes”, how are humans affecting the climate?
I think that humans affect the climate in two main ways. The first is changes in land use/land cover, or what is called “LU/LC”. I believe that when you cut down a forest, you cut down the clouds. This mechanism has been implicated in e.g. the decline in the Kilimanjaro Glacier. When you introduce widespread irrigation, the additional water vapor both warms and moderates the climate. When you pave a parking lot, local temperatures rise. See e.g. Christie and Norris, Fall et al., Kilimanjaro.
The second main way humans affect climate is through soot, which I will broadly define as black and brown carbon. Black carbon comes mostly from burning of fossil fuels, while brown carbon comes mostly from the burning of biofuels. This affects the climate in two ways. In the air, the soot absorbs incoming solar radiation, and prevents it from striking the ground. This reduces the local temperature. In addition, when soot settles out on ice and snow, it accelerates the melting of the ice and snow. This increases the local temperature by reducing the surface albedo. See e.g. Jacobson.
There is little scientific agreement on this question. A number of scientists implicate greenhouse gases as the largest contributor. Other scientists say that LU/LC is the major mover. The IPCC places values on these and other so-called “forcings”, but it admits that our scientific understanding of many of forcings is “low”.
Question 7. How much of the post 1980 temperature change is due to human activities?
Here we get into very murky waters. Is the overall balance of the warming and cooling effects of soot a warming or a cooling? I don’t know, and there is little scientific agreement on the effect of soot. In addition, as shown above there is no indication that the post 1980 temperature rise is in any way unusual. It is not statistically different from earlier periods of warming. As a result, I believe that humans have had little effect on the climate, other than locally. There is little scientific agreement on this question.
Next, some more general and theoretical questions.
Question 8. Does the evidence from the climate models show that humans are responsible for changes in the climate?
This is another trick question. Climate models do not produce evidence. Evidence is observable and measurable data about the real world. Climate model results are nothing more than the beliefs and prejudices of the programmers made tangible. While the results of climate models can be interesting and informative, they are not evidence.
Question 9. Are the models capable of projecting climate changes for 100 years?
My answer to this is a resounding “no”. The claim is often made that it is easier to project long-term climate changes than short-term weather changes. I see no reason to believe that is true. The IPCC says:
“Projecting changes in climate due to changes in greenhouse gases 50 years from now is a very different and much more easily solved problem than forecasting weather patterns just weeks from now. To put it another way, long-term variations brought about by changes in the composition of the atmosphere are much more predictable than individual weather events.” [from page 105, 2007 IPCC WG1, FAQ 1.2]
To me, that seems very doubtful. The problem with that theory is that climate models have to deal with many more variables than weather models. They have to model all of the variables that weather models contain, plus:
• Land biology
• Sea biology
• Ocean currents
• Ground freezing and thawing
• Changes in sea ice extent and area
• Aerosol changes
• Changes in solar intensity
• Average volcanic effects
• Snow accumulation, area, melt, and sublimation
• Effect of melt water pooling on ice
• Freezing and thawing of lakes
• Changes in oceanic salinity
• Changes in ice cap and glacier thickness and extent
• Changes in atmospheric trace gases
• Variations in soil moisture
• Alterations in land use/land cover
• Interactions between all of the above
• Mechanisms which tend to maximise the sum of work and entropy according to the Constructal Law.
How can a more complex situation be modeled more easily and accurately than a simpler situation? That makes no sense at all.
Next, the problem with weather models has been clearly identified as the fact that weather is chaotic. This means that no matter how well the model starts out, within a short time it will go off the rails. But the same is true for climate, it is also chaotic. Thus, there is no reason to assume that we can predict it any better than we can predict the weather. See Mandelbrot on the chaotic nature of climate.
Finally, climate models have done very poorly in the short-term. There has been no statistically significant warming in the last fifteen years. This was not predicted by a single climate model. People keep saying that the models do well in the long-term … but no one has ever identified when the changeover occurs. Are they unreliable up to twenty-five years and reliable thereafter? Fifty years?
Question 10. Are current climate theories capable of explaining the observations?
Again I say no. For example, the prevailing theory is that forcing is linearly related to climate, such that a change of X in forcing results in a change of Y in temperature. The size of this temperature change resulting from a given forcing is called the “climate sensitivity”. In 1980, based on early simple computer climate models, the temperature resulting from a change in forcing of 3.7 watts per square meter (W/m2) was estimated to result in a temperature change of between 1.5 and 4.5 degrees Celsius. See e.g. Green and Armstrong 2007.
Since 1980, there has been a huge increase in computing power. Since 1980, there has also been a huge increase in the size and complexity of computer models. Since 1980, thousands of man hours and billions of dollars have been thrown at this question. Despite these advances, the modern estimate of the climate sensitivity is almost unchanged from its 1980 value.
To me, this lack of any advance in accuracy indicates that we have an incorrect understanding of the forces governing the climate. Otherwise, our bigger, faster and better models would have narrowed the uncertainty of the climate sensitivity. But they have not.
Question 11. Is the science settled?
To this one I would answer no, no, a thousand times no. We are just a the beginning of the study of climate. New information and new theories and new forcings are put forward on a regular basis. See e.g. Lu. The data is poor, short, and full of holes. The signal is tiny and buried in a huge amount of noise. We don’t know if the earth has a thermostat. In short, the study of climate is an infant science which is still poorly understood.
Question 12. Is climate science a physical science?
Well, sort of. It is a very strange science, in that to my knowledge it is the only physical science whose object of study is not a thing, not a physical object or phenomenon, but an average. This is because climate is defined as the average of weather over a suitably long period of time (usually taken to be 30 years.) The implications of this are not widely appreciated. Inter alia, it means that statistics is one of the most important parts of climate science.
Unfortunately, a number of what I might call the “leading blights” of climate science, like Michael Mann with his HockeySchtick, have only the most rudimentary understanding of statistics. This initially got him into trouble in his foray into the area of paleoclimate statistics, trouble which he has only compounded by his later statistical errors.
Question 13. Is the current peer-review system inadequate, and if so, how can it be improved?
There are a number of problems with the current peer-review system, some of which are highlighted in the abuses of that system revealed in the CRU emails.
There are several easy changes we could make in peer review that would help things immensely:
1. Publish the names of the reviewers and their reviews along with the paper. The reviews are just as important as the paper, as they reveal the views of other scientists on the issues covered. This will stop the “stab in the back in the dark” kind of reviewing highlighted in the CRU emails.
2. Do not reveal the names of the authors to the reviewers. While some may be able to guess the names from various clues in the paper, the reviews should be “double-blind” (neither side knows the names of the others) until publication.
3. Do the reviewing online, in a password protected area. This will allow each reviewer to read, learn from, and discuss the reviews of others in real time. The process often takes way too long, and consists of monologues rather than a round-table discussion of the problems with the paper.
4. Include more reviewers. The CRU emails show that peer review is often just an “old-boys club”, with the reviewing done by two or three friends of the author. Each journal should allow a wide variety of scientists to comment on pending papers. This should include scientists from other disciplines. For example, climate science has suffered greatly from a lack of statisticians reviewing papers. As noted above, much of climate science is statistical analysis, yet on many papers either none or only the most cursory statistical review has been done. Also, engineers should be invited to review papers as well. Many theories would benefit from practical experience. Finally, “citizen scientists” such as myself should not be excluded from the process. The journals should solicit as wide a range of views on the subject as they can. This can only help the peer review process.
5. The journals must insist on the publication of data and computer codes. A verbal description of what mathematics has been done is totally inadequate. As we saw in the “HockeyStick”, what someone thinks or says they have done may not be what they actually did. Only an examination of the code can reveal that. Like my high science teacher used to say, “Show your work.”
Question 14. Regarding climate, what action (if any) should we take at this point?
I disagree with those who say that the “precautionary principle” means that we should act now. I detail my reasons for this assertion at “Climate Caution and Precaution”. At that page I also list the type of actions that we should be taking, which are “no regrets” actions. These are actions which will have beneficial results whether or not the earth is warming.
So that is where I stand on the climate questions. I think that the earth actively maintains a preferred temperature. I think that man is having an effect on local climate in various places, but that globally man’s effect is swamped by the regulating action of clouds and thunderstorms. I think that the local effect is mainly through LU/LC changes and soot. I think that the climate regulating mechanism is much stronger than either of these forcings and is stronger than CO2 forcing. I think that at this point the actions we should take are “no regrets” actions.
Does that make me a “denier”? And if so, what am I denying?
Finally, I would like to invite Dr. Judith Curry in particular, and any other interested scientists, to publicly answer these same questions here on Watts Up With That. There has been far too much misunderstanding of everyone’s position on these important issues. A clear statement of what each of us thinks about the climate and the science will go a long way towards making the discussion both more focused and more pleasant, and perhaps it will tend to heal the well-earned distrust that many have of climate science.
Willis:
Let me tell you – this is not pick on your ideas, but the stewardship ethic you promulgate or hold is nothing but a foundation for eco-fundamentalism.
How, do you ask? Your semantic conflations – just as other commenters point out wisely, overlook a few crucial facts
-the entire planet is not yours to take care of
-there are those who cause what you would consider enormous damage to ‘your planet’ but not intentionally – your stewardship puts you at conflict with them
If tomorrow, the United States and the UK – two of the world’s most powerful countries decide that as perpetrators of anthropogenic global warming they feel responsible the damage to the planet they’ve caused and therefore as the technologically capable stewards they are, they have a bounden moral duty to take over all the coastal regions of the nations of the world – for their own good – would you be surprised?
Rachel Carson did not cause DDT to be banned but provided people with the rationalizations for doing so and not worry about the consequences. So will this stewardship idea. It is just a cover for ambition and hubris that you do not recognize.
Again, quoting from the same paper I quoted above:
“The Religious Right, who also generally do not perceive climate change as a significant threat, may be most receptive to messages framed in moral
terms, including the stewardship ethic found in Genesis and the moral duty of Christians to help the poor and needy (i.e., those millions likely to be most
affected by climate change).”
For those interested, the abstract is here:
Go to pubmed.com and search for : 18929975
The Center for Climate Change Communication, Virginia
http://www.climatechangecommunication.org/
I think there was one question missing in the article:
Question 15: Is it possible to change the composition of the atmosphere without causing any changes whatsoever in the climate system?
I guess Willis’ answer would be “yes, yes, a thousand times yes!”.
My answer, on the other hand, would be: “nope”.
And just to clarify – I do not believe that the climate threat is a threat to the very existence of life on Earth. But I do believe that there is one species that is very sensitive to climate change, especially in the short run: namely, H. sapiens.
We have very recently witnessed an episode where the entire financial system almost collapsed as a result of careless lending and borrowing in the USA. What would happen if manmade rapid climate change threatened the stability of some of the biggest nations on earth? Quite a number of those nations who are likely to be hardest hit by AGW already have nuclear weapons, and others are surely eager to follow.
I absolutely agree with Willis that the Earth’s climate changes constantly, and that we, just as all other living creatures, have to cope with those changes. But that is not a good reason to make everything even worse.
rbateman:
The flaw is in the assumtions – Ice ages? Who observed them as slow events”?
The Norse have a tradition of a sudden Fimbul Weather, ice period – from whence that idea?
Please folks, study what our ancestors recorded, orally and otherwise, before dismissing those accounts, in the post modernist fashion, as myths.
climate science is in conflict with the the rest of us because they see climate scientists as the guardians of the earth and we are trying to destroy the earth. I have no objection to scientists quitely doing their work but with climate scientists anything they do has to have media coverage, it is a moral crusade.The way that climate scientists have gone about their science has put me off what are trying to say .The idea that humans are altering the climate of the earth is proclaimed but up until the last century most of us lived at a subsistence level and some still do
I can look at how weather is changing where I live and not see any reason to worry about climate change but a climate scientist measures temperature anomalies for the whole world over a long period of time and if it goes up by a fraction of a degree they panic .Why the Earths climate changes in the way that it does is a good question but the answer does not have to be AGW and it does not have to mean climate disaster and then there is no need for my energy use to be taxed.
Nice write-up Senor Willis!
As other commentators above have mentioned regarding Question 1, the term “environmentalist” doesn’t mean what it used to years ago. The term has morphed somewhat like the term “feminist” has. In the ’70s being a feminist meant that you were in favour of equality for women. But some time in the ’80s being a feminist meant being anti-man and residing on the far left of the political spectrum. Eventually you started hearing moderates say, “I’m all for women’s rights, but I’m not a feminist.”
So, in that vein, I will say that I care about the environment, but I’m not an environmentalist.
Paul
Re: Shub Niggurath (Apr 1 04:55),
Willis:
Let me tell you – this is not pick on your ideas, but the stewardship ethic you promulgate or hold is nothing but a foundation for eco-fundamentalism.
I can see your argument, but maybe you are confusing necessary and sufficient conditions?
eco-fundamentalism may have used stewardship concepts, but stewardship concepts are not sufficient to describe eco-fundamentalism.
The fact that communism has a foundation the equality of people, does not mean that asking for the equal treatment of people defines a communist?
Stewardship, that is responsibility for decisions and results of actions, is very important to sustain the basic unit of humanity, family. Extending this sense of responsibility to the fauna and flora one interacts with, extends the family. In this sense, to think in terms of stewardship of the earth is no danger in the sense you describe of
that as perpetrators of anthropogenic global warming they feel responsible the damage to the planet they’ve caused and therefore as the technologically capable stewards they are, they have a bounden moral duty to take over all the coastal regions of the nations of the world – for their own good – would you be surprised?
The fact that fascism developed out of a socialist vocabulary does not mean that fascism is socialism.
Surprisingly, I have found the Navajo world view so well described in Tony Hilerman’s detective novels, as one that would be advantageous adopted by everybody: beauty is everywhere and the individual has to come to balance with the total environment, to retain internal beauty/balance.
You may call it spiritual, or religious, so? Humans are spiritual entities who need an ethic compass, not just another type of termites overtaking the world .
Rob R (03:18:24) :
davidmhoffer
Regarding clouds and glacial periods. The balance of paleoclimate evidence is that the Earth’s atmosphere is both drier and dustier during glacial periods, as shown by the dust content of ice cores in ice dating back over 400,000 years. This might imply less cloud as you suggest. Whether this causes heating (more heat getting through to the surface) or more cooling (less of a cloud blanket) I wouldn’t be able to say>>
I think it is less a matter of “less or more” than it is a matter of “what kind”. Cloud cover I assume interacts with both longwave and shortwave, so the question does it produce net cooling or net warming gets complicated. But by blocking SW and LW, but only emitting LW, when cloud cover exists it must diminish the amount of SW interacting with earth surface and raise the amount of LW. This is key because LW only penetrates a millimeter or so of water and mostly just causes it to evaporate. Absence of cloud cover increases the amount of SW that interacts with earth surface, and SW will penetrate sea water to 300 meters. So, in terms of surface temps, cloud cover has one effect. In terms of ocean heat content, a very different effect. Oceans being really big and having strong currents that redistribute heat, it would take a very long time to warm them up, and once warmed up, a long time to cool off.
So cloud cover could very well have a “warming effect” when it comes to surface temperatures, and a “cooling effect” when it comes to oceans. In brief, perhaps a very small “net effect” but a very large distribution effect (land and ocean surface versus 300 meters of ocean depth).
I would think also that an increase in SW would have a major effect on plant biomass on both land and ocean, so assuming that is net positive, would tend to cause agressive growth, sucking the CO2 out of the atmosphere and explaining why CO2 levels lag temperature increases.
scienceofdoom (19:06:34) :
You assert:
“I agree there is a huge quantitative difference. But it’s still not a trick question. If climate models could match observations then I believe we could call it “evidence” of something.”
And at (23:57:12) :
You iterate and say:
“I was arguing about the role of models as having the potential for evidence. And not being a trick question.”
I agree that agreement of the model outputs with observations is “evidence of something.”
It is evidence of the aerosol adjustment applied in each model to obtain the agreement.
I first reported this in relation to the Hadley Centre model over a decade ago.
(ref. Courtney RS, ‘An assessment of validation experiments conducted on computer models of global climate using the general circulation model of the UK’s Hadley Centre’, Energy & Environment, Volume 10, Number 5, pp. 491-502, September 1999).
That paper was published in 1999 (n.b. a decade ago) but I know of no publication that reports any flaw in it. A recent paper by Kiehl says the same but Kiehl’s paper reports that other GCMs have adopted the same ‘adjustment’ except that each of the models uses a different and unique input of assumed aerosol cooling to get it to match the global warming over twentieth century.
(ref. Kiehl, J.T. (2007) Twentieth century climate model response and climate sensitivity. Geophys. Res. Lttrs., 34, L22710, doi:10.1029/2007GL031383)
My 1999 paper reports that the Hadley Centre general circulation model (GCM) showed an unrealistic high warming trend over the twentieth century, and a cooling effect was added to overcome this drift. The cooling was assumed to be a result of anthropogenic aerosol.
So, cooling was input to the GCM to match the geographical distribution of the aerosol. And the total magnitude of the cooling was input to correct for the model drift: this was reasonable because the actual magnitude of the aerosol cooling effect is not known.
This was a reasonable model test. If the drift were a result of aerosol cooling then the geographical pattern of warming over the twentieth century indicated by the model would match observations.
However, the output of this model test provided a pattern of geographic variation in the warming that was very different from observations; e.g. the model predicted most cooling where most warming was observed.
This proved that the aerosol cooling was not the cause (or at least not the major cause) of the model drift.
The Hadley Centre overcame this unfortunate result by reporting the agreement of the global average temperature rise with observations. But THIS AGREEMENT WAS FIXED AS AN INPUT TO THE TEST! It was fixed by adjusting the degree of input cooling to make it fit!
However, this use of supposed ‘aerosol cooling’ to compensate for the model drift means that any input reduction to anthropogenic aerosol cooling must result in the model providing drift which is wrongly indicated as global warming.
In any other branch of science this ‘aerosol cooling’ fix would be considered to be incompetence at best and fraud at worst
So, observations of global climate provide evidence of what the global climate has done.
And observation of climate model outputs provides evidence of what the constructors of the models have done.
Richard
Judith Curry.
Swish.
and thank you.
I’m not a denier. I believe in climate change. I believe the climate is changing for the better! I’d worry if it were getting colder. You can’t ask for anything better than warming in the higher northern latitudes, mostly effecting night time and winter lows. That’s like saying “Please God, we need more arable land and longer growing seasons to feed the hungry.” and POOF that’s what we get right where we need it right when we need it.
I don’t believe the warming is anthropogenic if we discount the providential response to human needs.
Or then there’s Jame’s Lovelock’s recent blathering about humanity being too stupid to save the earth. I actually give some credence to Dr. Lovelock’s Gaia hypothesis which states that life on the earth is one big self-regulating organism. The problem is Lovelock appears too stupid to follow his hypothesis out to the logical end. If the earth is a single organism then like all other organisms it must somehow reproduce. The sun has a finite lifetime before it becomes a red giant and turns the earth into a cinder. So to escape extinction the earth must somehow reproduce elsewhere. How? Well one way would be through technology – locating a suitable world orbiting a younger star and transporting the seeds of life to it. This handily explains why the “earth” has telescopes and spacecraft these days. The earth is preparing to reproduce! Humanity, in that scenario, is the sex organ. Call me a dick for saying this and I’ll be forced to agree.
Climate change??? I can only say “Be Prepaired” for any thing.
To maintain civilization, food and energy are required. Energy to keep warm if it gets colder or to keep cool if it gets warmer.
Food — we need grains that will grow under many harsh conditions, warmer, colder, wetter or drier.
“Over the last 150 years, the average temperature has only varied by plus or minus 0.3%.”
‘ONLY’ .3%’? Strange language if you believe that a 1% change would devastate the lives of millions or tens of millions of people. If you don’t believe that then address that issue…not the fact that it is ‘only’ .3 percent.
Well I wonder that that right there, is the pin in the grenade; pull that out and the whole AGW “limits of growth” thing explodes.
We all know that we see what we look for, which is to say, our point of view on reality will determine what things about reality we can perceive.
There is indeed a reality, but we can only ever approach it through a paradigm (or view), and that view determines what we can and can’t see. Our paradigm might be, “a 12 inch ruler is the best measuring device”, so we’ll know the dimensions of anything that can be easily measured with a ruler, and anything much smaller or much larger will be “hard to detect” or nonexistent.
So it is all a matter of trying to construct the best possible paradigm or view from which to obtain the most useful information about reality.
The “grenade pin” in the AGW paradigm is the assumption that we can model the complexities of growth and resources and expertly determine for practical purposes what those limits are, and where they’ll be encountered. This is the one point I’ll never agree with, and I don’t have to be an “expert in the field” to know they’re wrong — the whole paradigm that such a field even exists and that it is populated with experts is simply not a view I take.
Imagine deciding that bacteria doesn’t exist because I expertly measured everything to be measured with my ruler. Imagine deciding that global warming is real because I looked at some surface temperatures over 100 years from sparse stations, and can think of no other reason for warming. Imagine deciding that climate can be modelled because eventually all that weather noise must even out into a trend, and I can draw a graph-like “straight line” over about 30 years.
Yes, objects exist at the 12 inch scale, but that doesn’t mean all useful objects exist at the 12 inch scale. We still don’t know whether those 30 year “straight lines” on graphs are anything useful. A paradigm needs to be self-aware of what its purpose is supposed to be, otherwise what use is it for anything practical?
Yes I know there’s multiple lines of evidence, but that still leaves out everything that wasn’t measured. Yes I know it doesn’t have to be omniscient, but it has to include enough relevant stuff for its intended purpose. And the intended purpose here is that the experts and politicians want to decide what is “sustainable”. It has so far failed to provide anything useful for that purpose. The paradigm does not do what it says on the box.
The AGW paradigm also includes a belief that average people are too selfish and stupid to do the right thing, so the experts need to tell us. That paradigm has also failed. How do the experts propose to influence the stupid people? By calling them deniers? See how that’s working. (If a stupid person becomes a climatologist, does that automatically make them smart? If a teenager starts talking about global growth, does that automatically make them wise?) Even if they were right about AGW, they failed to make it useful. And that’s not our fault, that’s theirs. They failed in their mission to show the world the “expert view of the limits of growth”.
In my view, I look for complexity. I assume complexity. If something looks simple, I am wary — it could be more complex! So you want to understand climate? Assume it is complex! So you want to make recommendations for world development? Assume it is complex! So you want to influence the world’s stupid uninformed selfish people about the limits of growth?
Assume people are more complex and smarter and moving in hard to predict and innovative ways that solve problems with a globally distributed and diverse intelligence.
That’s my paradigm. Anyone care to join?
When there is an end to Slime Ate Science, I will be more attentive to the results. Until then, I will have to apply my personal training that I got when I got my PhD to sift through the bs.
Based on the science that tells us CO2 down radiates “extra” energy and heats the earth I am now beginning a line of household products.
The first is a blanket that will be made with fleece outer shell and have a top made of a space blanket material with a bladder of 100% CO2. Thus filled, will not only keep you warm on the coldest nights but will infact warm you above you natural body temperature. According to the IPCC the forcing involved with this alone is near 75 W/m2 so you will get toasty.
I know I can get it patented as this effect has been known for over a hundred years. Besides if CO2 can heat an entire planet it is sure to be able to warm a small human body.
ScienceofDoom you will buy some won’t you.
Maybe I’ll follow up with house insulation that over time will take you house to a tipping point and you will no longer require an external heating source.
I’ll make billions. Unlike GE, with all its PHD’s, can’t figure out how to make consumer products out of this proven science.
Willis,
Bravo. Well-stated and and sensible essay. And that’s quite a CV. Lumper AND art class model. Ha!
Willis, can you explain what you mean by a 3% change in temperature, please? 3% of what and when?
Thank you.
Excellent article….Excellent summary. I can’t find a single thing that I don’t agree with. I’ve sent this link to a lot of my friends as a great summary of the climate debate.
I too am a person that loves nature and thinks it should be protected. And I also believe AGW is baloney, from a carefully thought-out and informed scientific position, one that started back in graduate school (1989) when Mike Mann and I would debate these topics over lunch. I didn’t agree with him then and I don’t agree with him now after all these years of extra data and computer modelling.
Well, I’m no climate scientist but I left my answers here.
http://noconsensus.wordpress.com/2010/04/01/the-solution-is-the-problem/
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In any other branch of science this ‘aerosol cooling’ fix would be considered to be incompetence at best and fraud at worst
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Which pretty much sums up the state of climate science, at least in the public’s eye.
Unfortunately, it’s the scientists themselves that just don’t get it. Just look at the title to this post, “Trust and Mistrust”. Dr. Curry talks about the same thing, how to regain the public’s trust. Trust isn’t the problem.
Science has nothing to do with trust. It has to do with verifiability and reproducibility . Until the scientists make the data and computer code used to generate their claims available so that others can verify these claims by reproducing them, they aren’t doing science. They’re just producing a collection of unverifiable claims.
And there’s a word for that. It’s “pseudoscience”.
Willis Eschenbach (23:45:54): “That’s just twaddle”? Gosh, I love it when someone comes up with a well reasoned, well cited scientific argument against something I’ve said.
Oh, I see. You make some airy-fairy granola bar comment like, “I believe that when you cut down a forest, you cut down the clouds,” and that is supposed to be science, and furthermore I am supposed to supply scientific proof that you’re wrong.
No, Willis. If you want to join the gay scouts and put daisies in your coffee, that’s fine with me. But please don’t call it “science”. And don’t hide behind the pathetic argument that I have to prove your dingdong religious belief assertions wrong.
Risible, man. Positively risible. Stick to what you know. Don’t become a Lovelockian.
That goes for all you other guilt-ridden skeptics. You want to prove that you love the planet as much as any hippie, even though you don’t think the seas are going to boil from glooooobal waaaarming. Forget it. You will never make the grade. Stick to rationality. It’s what you do best. Don’t backslide.
This is untrue. What Phil Jones said was that the warming since 1995 is not yet statistically significant, but only just so… because the period is too short to achieve statistical significance. This is very different from saying no warming.
P.S. Visit Dr. Spencer’s site to see how 6 of the past 7 months have exceeded the 1979-1999 record high temperatures virtually every day in those months. You’re “it hasn’t warmed” meme is going to be laid bare eventually. And that’s a skeptic’s interpretation of the satellite record, so you can’t blame UHI effects and homogenization and all of your other obfuscations.
Thanks, Willis, you’ve managed to cut through to the core issues and explain them very well.
I’ll politely disagree with a couple of commenters who dislike the use of the word “believe” because of its supposed religious connotations. Belief is all we have. The confidence level may be higher for some beliefs than others, but its still all belief.
It bothers me when religious belief is singled out as being irrational. I’m a religious person, and religious belief, in my experience, comes about in precisely the same manner as any other kind of belief. One evaluates the evidence, considers voices of authority, acts on the basis of theories and evaluates the results, and ends up with religious belief. It’s true that many people accept religious tenets with little or no evidence, but it’s also true that many people blindly accept the notion that climate catastrophe is imminent with – all together, now – little or no evidence.
Willis, you are a fisherman. I am a forester. That’s right, sports fans, I don’t kill fish, I kill trees!!!
But unlike you, I don’t feel the need to gouge my own eyes out about it. I don’t suffer from Oedipal guilt regarding Mother Nature.
Chances are, unless you live in a grass shack or a concrete bunker, your shelter is made of wood (i.e. former trees). Most people today live in tree-based housing. But dry your tears, it’s okay, because TREES GROW BACK.
That’s right, sports fans. Trees are a renewable resource. The bad mean logger cuts them down, but then the good kind forester plants cute little baby trees, and before you know it — green grows the forest again!
Some people assert that logging makes that glaciers melt. Some people believe that when you cut down a forest, you cut down the clouds. But that’s all a steaming pile of poppycock nonsense. Those are not scientific assertions. There is no scientific proof behind those claims.
So rest easy. And before you go to bed tonight, say a little prayer for the folks who put the roof over your head, and the walls, and the floor under your bed. And don’t worry about the clouds. They are doing fine.