Quote of the week #32 – hockeying up a zinger

You have to wonder, has Dr. Mann decided to pull a CYA in the face of Climategate, or is he just not cognizant of how ridiculous his statement is in the context of his past behavior?

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Since “Climategate” Dr. Michael Mann has been on a nonstop media blitz. It seems he’s given dozens if not hundreds of interviews since the story broke on November 19th. It seem obvious that he’ll talk to anyone in an effort to get his point across. Up until this one interview, the message has been consistent with much of what he’s said and done in the past. That is, until this zinger.

In an interview given to The Morning Call, Dr. Mann was able to alienate both sides of the debate with a single sentence:

“I would call them contrarians or, frankly in some cases, climate change deniers,” he said. “I’m a skeptic. When I see a scientific claim being made, I want to see it subject to scrutiny and validation.”

Climatician, heal thyself. Start with a mirror.

Yet, while saying things like:

“I wish in retrospect I had told him, ‘Hey, you shouldn’t even be thinking about this,’” [reference to deleting emails]

… when his own work is subject to “scrutiny”, he has to resort to FTP data folders labeled “censored“. Look at what happens when that Mann “censored” data is used.

Here’s the complete interview transcript.

You know, The Daily Call only has one side of the story. They really should interview Steve McIntyre or Ross McKittrick next. Their contact page is helpful for such requests.

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1DandyTroll
March 29, 2010 4:03 pm

@rbateman
‘REPLY: This is a hoax article, everybody should ignore it. – Anthony
Did the “pilot, Jimmy Doolittle” part sound a bit fishy to you?’
The fishy part was this:
“Global Warming Activist Freezes to Death in Antarctica
Famed global warming activist James Schneider”
He’s neither famed nor would he go where no Mann has gone before.

March 29, 2010 4:24 pm

Thanks for this:
kwik (14:56:20) :
Good grief….this Lovelock guy is wandering back and forth…
Now he suddenly says the whole thing is a cock-up…
http://tomnelson.blogspot.com/2010/03/james-lovelock-on-value-of-sceptics-and.html
“The great climate science centres around the world are more than well aware how weak their science is. If you talk to them privately they’re scared stiff of the fact that they don’t really know what the clouds and the aerosols are doing. They could be absolutely running the show. We haven’t got the physics worked out yet. One of the chiefs once said to me that he agreed that they should include the biology in their models, but he said they hadn’t got the physics right yet and it would be five years before they do.”
In my experience, the climatologists (is that even a branch of science??) are at odds with astrophysicists, physicists of all kinds, geologists, biologists like me and meteorologists like Anthony.
When they say “the science is settled,” apparently they mean the science according to the climatologists is settled! The rest of us have been screaming about this for years.
Interesting times we live in….

brent
March 29, 2010 4:26 pm

Can we really trust chief scientific officers?
There was a time when, if you read a scientific scare story, you tended to put it down to the over-active imagination of a redtop journalist. No longer: nowadays it is outwardly sober government scientists who spin the biggest scares. They know they can get away with it because laymen have an irrational respect for words uttered by scientists.
That much was proved by the 1963 Milgram experiment in which the Yale psychologist Stanley Milgram persuaded volunteers to administer a — simulated — potentially fatal electric shock to another human being when instructed to do so by a man in a white lab coat.
It will be a good 50 years before anyone can make a definitive judgment on the biggest scientific scare of our times: climate change. But I can’t read the latest prediction for man-made flood and tempest without thinking of all those millions who have failed to die from swine flu and the other grim fates predicted by government scientists
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_contributors/article6982943.ece

GixxerBoy
March 29, 2010 4:29 pm

Our Mann in Nirvana. In which the protagonist deceives his superiors in government about an imminent catastrophic threat, only to be awarded his nation’s highest prize.
The Illustrated Mann. A science fiction classic, beginning with the simulation of a predatorial environment.
The Old Mann and the ºC. Epic tale of struggle against the odds ending in heartbreak when the sharks circle and destroy the protagonist’s trophy of a lifetime
Manndingo. His stick is big, frightening and points to the skies!
The Mann Who Listens to Horses. Describes the incredible technique of ‘joining up’, resulting in outcomes that defy human rationalisation.

maz2
March 29, 2010 4:33 pm

Gaia’s Feline: Here poosy.
“because it was still earth hour, he opened the window to vent the smell instead of turning on a fan.”
…-
“Flaming cat puts a damper on earth hour for B.C. environment minister
VICTORIA — British Columbia’s Environment Minister Barry Penner has mixed emotions about earth hour this year.
Mr. Penner said he and his wife were celebrating the event with a candlelit dinner on Saturday night when things took a turn for the worse.
While the two were having dinner, their cat brushed against the candle’s open flame and set himself on fire.
“We quickly got our cat, whose name is Ranger, under control,” Mr. Penner said Monday.
“His hair is a little bit singed and his pride is somewhat affected,” he added, saying because it was still earth hour, he opened the window to vent the smell instead of turning on a fan.
“The odour of singed hair is never pleasant,” he said, adding the ordeal added unexpected excitement to the night.
“It will be a night we’ll remember for a long time.””
http://network.nationalpost.com/NP/blogs/posted/archive/2010/03/29/flaming-cat-puts-a-damper-on-earth-hour-for-b-c-environment-minister.aspx
http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/013662.html#comments

martyn
March 29, 2010 4:36 pm

He is a megalo-mann-iac

March 29, 2010 5:05 pm

(acementhead) >>It ain’t so. “Jimmy Dolittle” tells you that. No need to read further. JD ran the Burma Hump operation I think.
Lt. Col. James Doolittle led the raid on Tokyo – a gaggle of B-25 bombers launched from the carrier Hornet (yes, you read that right) bombed Tokyo, and then continued to China where most of them ditched. Payback for December 7th, less than 4 months earlier. He won the Congressional Medal of Honour for that, the “Doolittle Raid”
Doolittle was also one of the few pilots to ever tame the GeeBee high-speed propellor plane (essentially a HUGE engine with a propellor on the front, and stubby little after-thought wings…) And yup, he was commonly called Jimmy… Got promoted to Brig. General without ever being a bird colonel.

VicV
March 29, 2010 5:13 pm

The 6 Million Degree Mann.
The Mann Who Shot Climatic Balance.

Bulldust
March 29, 2010 5:18 pm

Big Mann on campus? or maybe that should be off campus.

Thomas
March 29, 2010 5:47 pm

Ah the Professor James Schneider freezing to death story was a hoax. I fell for it hook line and sinker. I came across it on the information liberation website first. I’m a little embarrassed a being so gullible.

RayG
March 29, 2010 6:01 pm

Actually, the interview was held on a black Sunday and Mikey’s first statement was “I am Iron Mann!”

Editor
March 29, 2010 7:15 pm

I wondered earlier:
Ric Werme (10:58:16) :

In the grocery store yesterday Discover had a pair of interviews looking at both sides of the debate. Mann was one, Judith Curry was the other. Now, I have no substantial complaint with Judith Curry, in fact I might send her a thank you note for her efforts calming down the rhetoric, but Mann + Curry is nowhere near balanced, and certainly not enough to make it worth sending some profit to Discover.
IIRC, Mann claimed in it he discovered the AMO, my poking around led to Richard A Kerr [Kerr 2000] in http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/summary/288/5473/1984 (I don’t have a subscription, my siblings do (or did), I may check with them.
What role did Mann have in defining the AMO?

Discover put the interviews on the web, see http://discovermagazine.com/2010/apr/10-it.s-gettin-hot-in-here-big-battle-over-climate-science
Over on page 3:
Discover She said that some data discussed in these e-mails concerned a temperature bump in the 1930s and 1940s, caused by a coincidence of Atlantic and Pacific decadal oscillations.
MannYeah, I came up with the term: Atlantic Multidecadal Oscillation. I coined the term in an interview with Richard Kerr [a writer for Science] in 2000 over a paper with Tom Delworth of the Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory and the NOAA Laboratory in Princeton, where we actually were the ones to articulate the existence of this oscillation. And you know what? It was celebrated by contrarians. My work has been celebrated by climate skeptics. It’s an interesting footnote.
—-
So it may well be that Mann named the AMO. How ironic….

Janice
March 29, 2010 7:21 pm

“While the two were having dinner, their cat brushed against the candle’s open flame and set himself on fire.”
Gives a whole new meaning to the phrase “putting the cat out”

March 29, 2010 7:48 pm

I think Mann needs a cat scan to find that walnut sized brain tumor, that has disrupted his self image, it appears to still be growing, I am not a doctor, but I worked in a psychiatrist’s office for 9 years. I have seen several cases same as his, five were operatable.

March 29, 2010 8:42 pm

Some clever Mann puns. I liked the lyrics of the songs, especially the Beatle song, “He’s a real nowhere Mann” by MangoChutney (09:41:01). I was thinking maybe we should put out a musical CD with all the clever lyrics that have appeared on wuwt over the last 6 months or so. Maybe we could sell it to raise funds for wuwt. I would be happy to lay down a Manndolin (sic) track. Any banjo pickers out there? Jon

sdcougar
March 29, 2010 9:02 pm

Can somebody tell me what a “CYA” is?
[“Cover your ass.” ~dbs]

teemac
March 29, 2010 9:11 pm

This mann’s an insult to hockey sticks.

Cromagnum
March 29, 2010 9:18 pm

“I am not a Skeptical Crook”

E O'Connor
March 29, 2010 9:40 pm

Dr Data Mannicurist.

mark ryan
March 29, 2010 9:55 pm

I contacted the Frank warner about doing a interview with the steve or Ross and he gave me a very nice reply. He said he had already interviewed steve and would love to see the 2(mike and steve) have a debate face to face. Or even to teams on opposite ends of the debate. Very positive reply.
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Gary
March 30, 2010 12:09 am

He’s a Mann of our times. – Genesis

Amino Acids in Meteorites
March 30, 2010 1:09 am

Need to induce vomiting? You’ll never need Syrup of Ipecac again.
Just think of Michael Mann, Gavin Schmidt, and James Hansen.
Be careful to not think of them when you don’t need to induce vomiting. And keep them out of reach of children ☠.

Amino Acids in Meteorites
March 30, 2010 1:10 am

He’s practiced at making things up. He made up “data the old hard way”.

Amino Acids in Meteorites
March 30, 2010 1:12 am

REPLY: it is a HOAX, ignore it – Anthony
…………………………………………………………………………………………………….
I think that’s from Roy Spencer’s parody web site.

DaveF
March 30, 2010 6:57 am

mandolinnjon 20:42:48:
Yes, all these Mann puns are very clever, but also very cruel. I am so dismayed at Man’s inhumanity to Mann!