Quote of the week #32 – hockeying up a zinger

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Will he never learn to Shut-the-H-E-Double-Hockey-Sticks-UP !?!

Wow, he is slippery! Whenever asked a question that he could be picked up on he doesn’t answer with his personal opinion but sidesteps, referring to IPCC reports or others saying XYZ. When asked about something that could be tested by objective observation in the near future he says he doesn’t make predictions, but he makes numerous predictions when its something in the distant future or not easily testable.

Now, as I understand it form icecore data, at least the last three interglacials over the last 400,000 years, were considerably warmer than today by at least 5°C, so why does Mann choose to use an example of100 million years ago?
A BBC Horizon programme a few years ago talked about the causes of mass extinction several hundred million years ago of 95% of all life as a result of a fairly rapid rise in global temps of 10°C. Theory upon theory was aired in the show, but none seemed to be complete, but they eventually plumped for one whereby the Siberian basalt volcanic eruptions raised the global temperature by 5°C, (Earth would have been in Pangea at that time) but which was insufficient to cause mass extinction in itself, but in turn would cause the melt of methane clathrates beneath the sea which it was claimed would cause a further 5°C rise in temperatures, thus causing the mass extinction. I am guessing that theory has been ditched in light of the previous para? I am no expert!

“I’m a skeptic. When I see a scientific claim being made, I want to see it subject to scrutiny and validation.”

Hah! It is to laugh.
Can’t wait to hear McIntyre’s & McKittrick’s responses.

Presumably sometime soon a hotshot lawyer is going to see the Billions of Dollars that can be made off of lawsuits against these lying hucksters.
The only surprising thing is that it hasn’t happened already. The victims, all of us, just need to coalesce around a point of attack that the Citizens of anywhere can identify with.
Proof of duplicity is everywhere and starting with Pachauri, Mann and Jones would yield some positive returns.

Man made global warming or Mann made global warming?
I think man made global warming fits the theory perfectly only not in the way the theorys proponents describe.
They started with a theoretical model which perfectly aligned itself to a socio political narrative, because those who saw AGW as a pefect vehicle to enact this new socio political model had the control of the purse strings it provided compliant scientists with generous funding to supply evidence to back the theory up.
The temptation to find evidence where none exists can be almost irresistable when continued funding depends on finding those links and proofs, we all know that when the rewards are high enough most of us will justify almost anything to ourselves and others.
The essence of the AGW theory is that it became a perfect vehicle for a political narrative and as such the temptation to make the evidence fit the theroy became just too tempting, too much money became available too quickly to scientists starved of funding, he who pays the piper calls the tune. The moral of the story is simple and frankly the lessons of history have already shown us the dangers, science and politics should never be mixed.
Unless we learn from the mistakes of histroy we are doomed to repeat them until we do learn those lessons.

With apologies to the Beatles (and all lovers of music):
He’s a real nowhere Mann,
Sitting in his Dendro Land,
Making all his warming plans
for nobody.
Clearly has a point of view,
Knows not where he’s taking you,
Isn’t he a bit like you and me?
Nowhere Mann please listen,
You don’t know what you’re missing,
Nowhere Mann, the world ain’t at your command!
He’s as blind as he can be,
Just sees what he wants to see,
Nowhere Mann can you see me at all?
Nowhere Mann, don’t worry,
Take your time, don’t hurry,
Leave it all till somebody else
lends you a hand!
Clearly has a point of view,
Knows not where he’s taking you,
Isn’t he a bit like you and me?
Nowhere Mann please listen,
you don’t know what you’re missing
Nowhere Mann, the world ain’t at your command!
He’s a real Nowhere Mann,
Sitting in his Nowhere Land,
Making all his nowhere plans
for nobody.
Making all his nowhere plans
for nobody.
Making all his nowhere plans
for nobody!
/Mango

kim (08:57:01) :
Sitting in his No Mann’s Land
Apologies Kim, I’ve only just spotted your post
/Mango

I’ve seen a number of alarmists recently claiming they are sceptics, see the likes of Boleslas Broda and Lazarus on Paul Hudson’s BBC Blog. It seems a new strategy to confuse the media as to who the AGW heretics are.