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FROM CNN’s Jack Cafferty:
As the debate continues about global warming, the month of December was the 14th coldest in 115 years in the United States… and some scientists insist the earth is entering a cooling trend.
- Wind chills brought temperatures in the Dakotas to 50 degrees below zero, while record cold in parts of Florida is damaging some of the orange crops, and South Carolina called an early end to shrimping season.
- Parts of Canada have seen actual temperatures of 30 below zero… And freezing temperatures and record snowfalls are pounding parts of Asia and Europe too.
- Britain has experienced the worst snowfalls in half a century.
- In India – it’s estimated at least 100 people have died due to the cold temperatures… with dozens more killed in Bangladesh.
- In China and South Korea, heavy snow and unusually cold weather have brought chaos to travelers – blocking roads and trains, canceling flights. After one recent blizzard in Beijing – officials had more than 300-thousand people clearing the streets.
Meanwhile some of the world’s top climate scientists suggest this winter is only the start of a worldwide trend toward cooler weather, which could last for 20 to 30 years. They base their predictions on changes in water temperatures in the oceans.
The scientists say much of the global warming in the last century was actually caused by these oceanic cycles when they were in a “warm mode”… as opposed to the current “cold mode.” They suggest there will be cooler summers ahead too.
It’s the kind of research that could undermine lots of what we’ve been told about the warming of the Earth being caused only by man-made greenhouse gas emissions.
Here’s my question to you: How has this winter affected your belief in global warming?
Tune in to the Situation Room at 6pm to see if Jack reads your answer on air.
And, we love to know where you’re writing from, so please include your city and state with your comment.
rbateman (22:38:33) :
“Increased Volcanoes are to be expected in times of solar minimum, and it has little to do with climate.
http://www.robertb.darkhorizons.org/SSNvsVOL.JPG
And since Earthquakes and Volcanoes are both Tectonic movement phenomenon, I suspect Earthquakes are likely increased as well in times of solar minimum.”
Don’t want to worry you, or anyone else, but the first solar eclipse of 2010 is on January 15, and here’s the path according to NASA:-
The path of the Moon’s antumbral shadow begins in Africa and passes through Chad, Central African Republic, Democratic Republic of the Congo, Uganda, Kenya, and Somalia. After leaving Africa, the path crosses the Indian Ocean where the maximum duration of annularity reaches 11 min 08 s. The central path then continues into Asia through Bangladesh, India, Burma (Myanmar), and China. A partial eclipse is seen within the much broader path of the Moon’s penumbral shadow, which includes eastern Europe, most of Africa, Asia, and Indonesia.
Folk-lore has it that tectonic events occur a few days after the crossing?
My response:
This winter’s weather has no impact on my belief that climate change is almost entirely natural. Even weather patterns over decades may not really tell us much about any significant changes in our climate. We best focus our attention and resources on the real problems that mankind is facing: character, hunger, disease, poverty, war, etc.
@ur momisugly KenB (04:31:46) :
Hence, we can now define CLIMATE CHANGE as: the suppression of global warming by a cause (or causes) that dominates the dominant cause of global warming.
Well, since the natural state of the Earth over the last several million years seems to be one of glaciation, I think we have the answer.
Did Jack Cafferty read any responses?
To CNN’s Jack Cafferty:
I don’t trust anyone with their hand in my pocket. Ergo – global warming is a hoax (regardless of the temperatures in the Deep South lately).
Mr. Jones:
Interesting comment you have made.
If you are correct, then the Java Applet supplied on the NEO site would have a serious error in it. Would you be willing to communicate this info to NEO?
That would be very helpful. Alas, I was having complete faith in that tools ability to analyze their data correctly. It should be noted that the mapping they do use is a “latitude/longitude” plot, therefore although it appears as a Mercator projection…the sizes of the continents are distorted and “correct” in terms of the area they subtend.
Again, if your assesment of the data is correct, the “tool” they provide to do it automatically, is in error and needs to be corrected.
THANKS!
Max
Since the cooling trend can’t be blamed on AGW then it must b Bush’s fault.
MrX (16:20:48) WROTE: “I’m in Eastern Canada. This is the warmest winter I can remember. Wonder why there’s a warm spell here and everywhere else is getting hit by record cold. Heck, it’s gonna above freezing this weekend in the middle of January. Crazy!”
I, too, am in “eastern canada”. Unfortunately, Canada is such a large place that “eastern Canada” covers a BIG swathe of territory. Are you in Ontario? Quebec? (doubtful if it’s going to be mild!) New Brunswick? Nova Scotia? etc.
I am in southern New Brunswick, maybe 25 km from the Bay of Fundy Glenwood, if you have a really detailed map!). This locale is slightly cooler than along the coast, but noticeably milder in winter than Fredericton, which is about 100 km away. (OTOH, Fredericton is markedly hotter in summer.) In the NE of the province, where NB, Quebec, and Maine meet, it is significantly colder than any of the above, and it’s only about 300 km away from here (my guess- don’t get out a map to prove me wrong!)
The reason for this picayune quibbling is that the weather can be quite different only a hundred km away, so saying that “eastern Canada” is going to be above freezing can be misleading. In southern NB we can expect at least one “January thaw” that melts a lot of the snow. Last year there was none. Last week we had several days that crept just above freezing in the day. Now we are back around normal, which is cool.
The point? There is a lot of variation within short distances. Among other things, on a global scale this makes the interpolation methods used to “average” temperatures over large distances all the more doubtful. And it is risky to generalize for a large geographical area, as in “eastern Canada”.
IanM
Q: “How has this winter affected your belief in global warming?”
Key word…”belief”.
Like using “scientific basis” and “tooth fairy” in the same sentence.
Mike U.K. (16:24:05) wrote (in part): “…..being in the UK I’m not sure what 6pm is in real money??? Can anyone give me some help. Like how far ahead or behind they are?”
Mike, if you are using Outlook Express, you can click on the time shown at the bottom right of your screen, then click on “time zone”, then on the check mark at the right of the bar showing your time zone. You can then find a listing of places and time zones relative to GMT. I believe that all of the UK is on GMT.
IanM
@ur momisugly kwik (15:00:40) :
“It hasnt influenced me the slightest.
If someone believes that CO2, which is approx. 0.04% of the athmosphere can have a dominant effect, while you have approx. 95% watervapor out there, which is a stronger “greenhouse” gas….If you additionally believe there is a forcing factor, which is proven almost non-existant…..and additionally dont believe in negative feedback…
And dont believe that CO2 is pretty fast absobed by sinks in nature…
And additionally believe you can model a chaotic system in a computer….with multivariable variables…with unknown couplings….hundreds of years into the future, while you cannot even predict 10 years ahead….
AND look away from the urban heat effect in ground-station plots…
AND dont take into consideration the suns influence…
Then , okay.
But I dont.
Its a tax scam.
From Norway”
Let me add:
If there is ANY reduction in the level of CO2, there will be a reduction in crops, and an increase in starvation deaths.
So AGW or ACC is really a DEATH TAX SCAM.
Michael (19:52:44) :
Don´t generalize, southern hemisphere it is not only Australia and New Zealand.
I see mention of the 7.0 quake in Haiti.
I notice a nearly complete absence of reinforcing steel in the collapse photos.
A sad but predictable outcome.
Also the descriptions seem to imply the use of beach sand, another bad idea.
The loss of life is especially dis-heartening when the outcome could be expected.
Perhaps it is time to lock up the TEAM so we can get onto the real issues of the world.
”
Translation: “Does this make AGW look bad?”
Yes. If any politician comes out presenting a hockey stick and an IPCC weather prediction, and breathing the word “sustainable,” he will get the chart wrapped around his neck.
Better wait for some nice sexy hurricanes before you try Ration and Tax again.
leading climate experts say the oceans are cooling while our experts say they are warming it is very confusing.this winter is not over yet wait until march before looking back on it.It is snowing again here in the the uk.
So why are all the comments for this item missing from Jack’s site??
http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/
http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2010/01/13/has-this-winter-affected-your-belief-in-global-warming/
May be the viewers didn’t toe the line??
Very strange. I’ve never seen that before on his hourly events.
anon,
I’m not seeing where any comments show up on Jack’s site? I submitted my comment, but not in a blog format like this one, and saw no other comments from viewers posted. Perhaps I am looking in the wrong place?
Anthony
I just checked out Cafferty’s page. He has comments for every other post (check out “Recent Posts”), except for the Climate Feedback post. He has allowed comments to be shown for even more recent posts. Either he has been inundated or CNN is stifling the comments? Did perhaps CNN stick their head above the parapet, as it were, by allowing Cafferty to post this and they didn’t like it being shot off?
Jack Cafferty asked:
“Here’s my question to you: How has this winter affected your belief in global warming?”
Maybe a comment or two answering that question on the other CNN blogs might wake them up. Can’t hurt. Might help.
And the “belief” in global warming [by which he presumably meant AGW] is held by the AGW believers. Entirely natural global warming and global cooling happens in cycles, with a slight upward trend that began way before the SUV era.
azcIII (15:47:46) : — if you look on his home page (http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/) at the end of each of his events, there is a shaded area where there two links:
xxx Comments | Permalink
But on the GlobalWarming question, it just says “Permalink”. See below.
And if you open the page for the global warming item (just by clicking on the title) the page you are taken to doesn’t show any comments, where as all his other events do.
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How much were banks to blame for the financial collapse?
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FROM CNN’s Jack Cafferty:
Congress is trying to get to the b …
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Filed under: Bailout • Goldman Sachs • Homeownership • Spending • US Economy • US Government Bailouts
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Has this winter affected your belief in global warming?
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FROM CNN’s Jack Cafferty:
As the debate continues about gl…
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Filed under: Global Warming
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Response to Belvedere (first comment). They ARE blaming it on global warming. See the Sydney Morning Herald last week:
http://www.smh.com.au/environment/china-blames-freak-storm-on-global-warming-20100104-lq6t.html
In the print edition the headline says ” China blames snowstorms on global warming”. I thought it was hillarious so I cut out the clipping and it is hanging in my office.
“How has this winter affected your belief in global warming?”
Considering the hysteria from Al Gore and other politicians, I sensed it was a scam from waaaaay back. The only thing I know now that I didn’t know before is that it’s a scam of huge proportions – money, power, corruption – involving all kinds of global groups, corporations, politicians and bankers who’ll profit from carbon trading while binding us with taxes for all our carbon output (as they fly in private jets and live in mansions… reminding me of Orwell’s Animal Farm quote: Some animals are more equal than other animal.)
Before this climate science scandal, I just thought it was a few hysterical blowhards (ie Gore and pals) who were trying to feel important while scaring school children into believing their futures are doomed. But no! They scare school children for profit!
There’s no such thing as climate. Only weather.
Meanwhile some of the world’s top climate scientists suggest this winter is only the start of a worldwide trend toward cooler weather, which could last for 20 to 30 years. They base their predictions on changes in water temperatures in the oceans.
The scientists say much of the global warming in the last century was actually caused by these oceanic cycles when they were in a “warm mode”… as opposed to the current “cold mode.” They suggest there will be cooler summers ahead too.
I believe this as much as I believe AGW
Scientists still do not appear to have all the data required for mathematical modelling predictions
The current weather conditions … and in the UK …. this has been for at least 12 months with the Met Office getting it wildly wrong with predicitions only over 2 or 3 months…. indicate a significant change in the weather predicted. I predict that there will be little change in the volume of new predictions getting it wrong. After all warm against cool is a 50/50 prediction anyway.
I also predict a new wave of AG COOLING messiahs
Don’t get me wrong, science is wonderful and most scientists are intelligent human beings from either side of the debate contributing in their own way, but I don’t think they have this planetary climate thing cracked, there are too many unkown variables.
Dr Richard Feynman once said that , and I am not quoting verbatim, a scientist has to identify all the unkowns before he/she can be 100% sure of the experiments success. I suggest we haven’t checked all the unknowns when it comes to planetary climate conditions
AGW was sloppy politicized science before.
It still is.
The real question is can we halt those trying to “solve” the CO2 problem before they destroy our economy, loot the treasury, and consolidate their political power.