Reprinted from totallytopten.com
The solution to climate change lies not in the hands of politicians, but some seriously nutty scientists.
For the uninitiated, Geo-engineering is easiest explained as the plan B in the fight against climate change, in case our politicians and world leaders fail. And as the Kyoto agreement is due 2012, with both Bali and Copenhagen settled disappointments, it is perhaps time for drastic action.
Scientists all over the world are already on it.
10. Ocean Iron Fertilization
“Give me half a tanker of iron, and I’ll give you an ice age” ~John Martin, discoverer of the Ocean Iron Fertilization Idea.
Introduce iron into the ocean’s upper layer and increase the amount of phytoplankton (plant plankton) in the ocean. This in turn will increase the amount of food for ocean life, strengthen the ecosystem and most importantly, take in CO2 and release
oxygen. The problem however, is not just the process but the scale on which it has to be done to make an impact.
9. Cloud Reflectivity Enhancement
Making clouds whiter. How? Apparently the “viable plan” by Stephen Salter of the University of Edinburgh is to have 1500 special ships known as Flettner ships to spray ocean water into the atmosphere. The ocean spray would work within a concept known as the Twomey Effect. The biggest problem is the lack on ocean nuclei needed due to pollution.
Problem: 1500 honkin’ ships shooting water into the air.
8. Scatterers – Stratospheric Sulfate Aerosols
Release microparticles into the atmosphere at the rate of 1 million metric tons a year through the use of jumbo jets and military artillery. The idea is to reflect some of the sunlight entering our atmosphere, thus reducing warming effects and helping us keep nice and cool. Read more at Wikipedia.
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Nothing new under the sun: Geo-engineering….to WARM UP the planet, in 1971
These ideas are from From the book “Omega – Murder of the Eco-system and the Suicide of Man , Paul K Anderson, 1971, Controlling the Planet’s Climate
J. 0. Fletcher (Rand corporation)
POSSIBILITIES FOR DELIBERATELY INFLUENCING GLOBAL CLIMATE
under certain conditions, only one kilogram of reagent can seed several square kilometres of cloud surface. It is estimated that it would take only sixty American C-5aircraft to deliver one kilogram per square kilometre per day over the entire Arctic Basin (10million square kilometres). Thus,it is a large but not impossible task to seed such enormous areas.
ICE-FREE ARCTIC OCEAN
The largest scale enterprise that has been discussed is that of transforming the Arctic into an ice-free ocean.
Three basic approaches have been proposed:
(a) influencing the surface reflectivity of the ice to cause more absorption of solar heat;
(b) large-scale modification of Arctic cloud conditions by seeding;
(c) increasing the inflow of warm Atlantic water into the Arctic Ocean
BERING STRAIT DAM
The basic idea is to increase the inflow of warm Atlantic water by
stopping or even reversing the present northward flow of colder Pacific water through the Bering Strait. The proposed dam would be 50 miles long and 150 feet high.
DEFLECTING THE GULF STREAM
Two kinds of proposals have been discussed, a dam between Florida and Cuba, and weirs extending out from Newfoundland across the Grand Banks to deflect the Labrador current as well as the Gulf Stream.
DEFLECTING THE KUROSHIO CURRENT
The Pacific Ocean counterpart of the Gulf Stream is the warm Kuroshio Current, a small branch of which enters the Sea of Japan and exits to the Pacific between the Japanese islands. It has been proposed that the narrow mouth of Tatarsk Strait, where a flood tide alternates with an ebb tide, be regulated by a giant one-way ‘water valve’ to increase the inflow of the warm Kuroshio Current to the Sea of Okhotsk and reduce the winter ice there.
CREATION OF A SIBERIAN SEA
Dams on the Ob, Yenisei and Angara rivers could create a lake east of the Urals that would be almost as large as the Caspian Sea. This lake could be drained southward to the Aral and Caspian Seas, irrigating a region about twice the area of the Caspian Sea. In terms of climatic effects, the presence of a large lake transforms the heat exchange between the surface and atmosphere.
CREATION OF AFRICAN SEAS
If the Congo, which carries some 1,200 cubic kilometres of water per year, were dammed at Stanley Canyon (about 1 mile wide), it would impound an enormous lake (the Congo Sea). The Ubangi, a tributary of the Congo, could then flow to the north-west, joining the; Chari and flowing into Lake Chad, which would grow to enormous size (over 1 million square kilometres).
NAWAPA PROJECT
The proposed North American Water and Power Alliance is a smaller scale scheme. It would bring 100 million acre-feet2 per year of water from Alaska and Canada to be evaporated by irrigation in the western United States and Mexico.
The only option that makes sense is to fertilize the oceans. And that, only because it will improve fish production.
If I was a large fishing company, I would start doing it now, perhaps in syndication with others.
It might take a season or two, but the impact could be huge.
If it happens to lower CO2 by bio-sequestration, so be it.
O/T. Interesting article in The Times today. Met Office criticising Rahmstorf:
Climate change experts clash over sea-rise ‘apocalypse’
DJ Meredith (20:23:33) :
“…Our gubbmint can’t manage a financial system that it Does have full control over…..and you wanna turn it loose on nature?? Sorry, but mankind is better left drawing pictures of hockey sticks and scaring each other.”
Here in the USA the gubbmint, (thanks to the democrats) turned full control of the financial system over to the Central Bankers. This is true of many other countries too, and they have been periodically “shearing the sheep” (us) ever since.
“A Primer on Money,” by the Subcommittee on Domestic Finance Committee on Banking & Currency House of Representatives; 88th Congress: http://famguardian.org/Subjects/MoneyBanking/Money/patman-primer-on-money.pdf
Secrets of the Federal Reserve: Eustace Mullins, member of the staff of the Library of Congress: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/reserve.htm
Weather and climate modification schemes have a long history. See:
“Weather Modification in the Public Interest” by Robert Fleagle 1974 published by the American Meteorolgical Society
” Ice or Fire? Surviving Climatic Change” by D. S. Halacy Jr. 1978 especially ch. 11 Can we Change the Climate?
“The Genesis Strategy” by Stephen Schneider 1976. He documents plans to melt the Arctic ice cap by damming the Bering Straits by the Russians sometime after 1940, plus several other schemes.
“We’re Doing Something About the Weather” by Walter Orr Roberts, National Geographic Mag. April 1972.
One of the big concerns about oceans is the development of “dead zones” such as at the mouth of the Mississippi River, where agricultural runoff feeds phyoplankton too much, which die, sink, and use up all the oxygen as they decompose, which kills fish. Fertilizing the ocean on purpose with iron or whatever would expand dead zones on a massive scale–indeed, the only way to have a net huge increase in carbon sinking to depths is to overload the ability of decomposers and consumers to eat all the phytoplankton, which means oxygen would be used up. Clever idea to create a huge crisis.
“AJB (07:41:04) :
O/T. Interesting article in The Times today. Met Office criticising Rahmstorf:”
Rahmstorf is the top german alarmist. He sits in Potsdam, close to Berlin where the government is. His specialty is catastrophic flooding.
The “lukewarmer school” OTOH is in Hamburg (von Storch) and Kiel (Latif).
It’s funny because Rahmstorf’s a few 100km from the sea while von Storch and Latif are in coastal cities. So it should be the other way round.
Climate is changng, has always changed, and will always change.
That is simply “What Is” !
Earth is heated by a variable star.
Solar cycles are induced by gravitational interactions between the Sun’s dense, energetic core with planets in orbits and constantly changing positions [See: “Earth Heat Source – The Sun”, Energy and Environment 20 (2009) 131-144]
Politicians, kings, and emperors have certain powers, but they cannot stop planets from orbiting the Sun and they cannot stop climate change.
That’s my opinion,
Oliver K. Manuel
I was surprised to notice that Garth Paltridge in his book Climate Caper isn’t so negative to Ocean fertilization. Instead he means that only small amounts, not substantially much larger than from sand dust blowing into the oceans, can fertilize them. Also he think that it’s ironical that the environmental movement is negative. They don’t want any solution that reduces CO2?
The environmental movement don’t want nuclear power either, and I think that many of them mostly want some carbon ration scheme (the far left), and political control. Market economy defenders want carbon credits. Besides this many environmentalist for sure think that mankind rapidly destroys the world…
So a mild fertilization is probably cheap and will not harm our environment.
DennisA
But …but …everybody knows that cooling by the 70’s wasn’t taken seriously except by a handful of irresponsible alarmists in the media.
hunter (07:13:26) :
I believe that CO2 bio-sequestration by genetic engineering is a process that could get out of hand and cause vast unintended results. This could be a case like that of the Civil War general who created a real gap in his line while trying to fill an imaginary one.
“”lmg (19:26:44) :
“Waterways leading to Berlin have started to freeze, impeding coal and oil deliveries…”
Coming soon: Ice breakers on the Danu””
Do ice breakers even work on rivers?
Artificial trees?
Whats wrong with planting ordinary, natural ones?
Not complicated enough?
Not a sufficiently hi-tech solution?
(And how will future generations measure tree rings in those artificial trees, one wonders … think of the poor future climate scientists, what pickle they’ll be in!)
“” Bill Tuttle (22:29:41) :
Heh. Max ordinate (the highest the shell will reach) for a 155mm howitzer (the largest artillery piece still in common use) is about 16,000 feet. In order to get the microparticles into the upper atmosphere using artillery, they’ll have to fire them from the jumbo jets””
For extra range, you could use RAP rounds, they go farther. Also, as with any gun, a longer barrel translates to more force. This is why rifles have more velocity than pistols with the same round.
The german Paris Gun made it to the upper atmosphere in WW1. Sadam Hussein was working on a long range gun. The technology exists to move the 155 shell to upper atmosphere.
The gun would likely need to be a customed designed gun though, not an old artillery piece.
With as much hot air that Gore puts out, I would think he would make a great CO2 scrubber. Launch him into space and force CO2 back through his system. That should result in clean oxygen coming out the other end would it not?
I thought Chu said we just need to paint our roofs white?
For those interested in moving sea water to inland area, the link below provides information and references for the Dead Sea.
http://www1.american.edu/TED/deadsea.htm
Global Cold Snap kills 9 in Mexico:
http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=115815§ionid=351020705
E.M.Smith (21:47:39) :
….don’t know if these are aftershocks or foreshocks..…they are all aftershocks….until you get a bigger one, then they were foreshocks….
Ok, that clears it all up. Thanks!
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The foreshocks/aftershocks are still happening between Milpitas and Ferndale.
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/recenteqsus/Maps/special/California_Nevada_eqs.php
Ref – Richard S Courtney (16:07:31) :
“People here are missing the point.
“Politicians need a way out. They have ‘nailed their colours to the mast’ of AGW. And the AGW scare is coming to an end.
“But politicians cannot say they were wrong to have supported AGW because that would lose them votes. And they cannot be seen to be doing nothing in response to the AGW scare that they have said is a serious threat because that would lose them votes. So, they have to be seen to be doing something.”
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So true! But given the present crop of Pols its doubtful that anything can be found to get them on the correct path. All they know how to do is throw money at a problem. Don’t mean to be “political” but the biggest problem is the universal idea that its worse to send a newbee to Congress or Parliment than to reelect the same idiot for another term. I know that Congress is a problem, not sure about the Brit situation. A bigger falsehood than Global Warming is that members of Congress get better the longer they serve, or that one party will do the People’s Will if you let them have both houses of Congress and the White House. Sure! When elephants fly.
Here is a paragraph from the comment by Dominic Lawson in the Times today, link: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/dominic_lawson/article6982310.ece
“… the Met still asserts we are in the midst of an unusually warm winter — as one of its staffers sniffily protested in an internet posting to a newspaper last week: “This will be the warmest winter in living memory, the data has already been recorded. For your information, we take the highest 15 readings between November and March and then produce an average. As November was a very seasonally warm month, then all the data will come from those readings.”.”
Mr Lawson didn’t give the name, nor the paper where this post appeared.
Now I wonder – is this the method they’ve been using at the Met Office to show ‘warming’? Could this be how they ‘add value’ to their data?
Shifting meteorological winter from December to November is a very interesting approach as well …
I think we should start by banning all private jets, all limos, all pleasure sea craft, all movies, concerts, sporting events, art shows, etc. that require transportation by large numbers of individuals. Just think of all the CO2 that would not be emitted. Since all of it is non-essential to our existence, it would little impact on most individuals. We could then assess the impact before taking further steps.
That should take care of the Hollywood elites and many other hypocrites. It would almost be funny to see their reactions. Too bad it would never come to pass.
Aaarrrggg, pass … not past. Why don’t spell checkers know what I mean. 😉
[You need a grammar checker. Anyway, fixed. ~dbs]
Are you for real? Blondie indeed….
“Viv Evans (09:09:25) :
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Mr Lawson didn’t give the name, nor the paper where this post appeared.”
Google for the exact quote. It was only a comment on an article by some anonymous Tony. One warmist comments: If the sceptics are reduced to using this as evidence, they’ve lost. He’s right, if that would be all the evidence against AGW, we would have lost. So don’t go all gung ho about it.