It seems the uncertainty about Copenhagen is growing. When Al baby pulls the plug, you know it’s hosed.
From Berlingske: Al Gore cancels lecture during COP15
Former U.S. vice president has canceled his event, more than 3,000 Danes have purchased a ticket. Photo: JOSE MENDEZ
Looks like they will get a refund though. Might be worth more as a collectors item in ten years though.
I wonder how many people have shelled out $1200 to shake Al’s hand? Maybe not enough and he couldn’t cover the expenses for his private jet?
From the Washington Post:
“Have you ever shaken hands with an American vice president? If not, now is your chance. Meet Al Gore in Copenhagen during the UN Climate Change Conference,” notes the Danish tourism commission, which is helping Mr. Gore promote “Our Choice,” his newest book about global warming in all its alarming modalities.
“Tickets are available in different price ranges for the event. If you want it all, you can purchase a VIP ticket, where you get a chance to shake hands with Al Gore, get a copy of Our Choice and have your picture taken with him. The VIP event costs DKK 5,999 and includes drinks and a light snack.”
Wait, what? How much is that in American dollars? The currency conversion says it all, too: 5,999 Danish kroners is equivalent to $1,209.
“If you do not want to spend that much money, but still want to hear Al Gore speak about his latest book about climate challenges, you can purchase general tickets, ranging in price from DKK 199-1,499 depending on where in the room you want to sit,” the practical Danes advise. “There will be large screens, so that everyone will get a good view.”
Yah, such a deal.
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It is just me or Gore has an evil looking smile on the pic at the beggining of this post? “Mouah ha ha ha haaaa.. I got all you bastards in my net of lies” he seems to be thinking.
I just watched the manbearpig episode for the first time last night. I’m so serial it was the funniest show I’ve watched in a long time.
The Copenhagen Conference will take a big hit on credibility but many people are easily deceived. Al Gore has his fans who will believe what he says instead of thinking for themselves. Gore is also a big polluter of the environment and exaggerates global warming causes. But didn’t he invent the internet?
Here is an interesting link to an iceagenow article:
http://www.iceagenow.com/Climate_Change_Fraud.htm
Maybe one day we will live in a world where people with higher knowledge no longer prey on the less educated people of our society, and no longer scheme to invent new ways to transfer these poor people’s wealth into their pockets.
We might even hope to live in an utopian world where the word “fraud” no longer has usage or meaning! Just imagine. However, I see two possibilities for this happening.
One: We end up really living in a world where there are no more scheming and defrauding individuals, or two: We end up living in a world where fraud is so widespread, the usage of the word fraud becomes redundant, because practically every law and institution and tax is tainted with it.
I still hope for option one: No more scheming and defrauding individuals.
I also believe in Santa Claus.
Oh man, I can’t wait til the Southpark guys get a hold of this [snip]!!!!
This is probably the reason he canceled:
Thursday, December 3, 2009
New Rasmussen Poll
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Fifty-nine percent (59%) of Americans say it’s at least somewhat likely that some scientists have falsified research data to support their own theories and beliefs about global warming.
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http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/environment_energy/americans_skeptical_of_science_behind_global_warming
On Dave replying to Kevin (11:47:37) :
Dave (12:43:09) :
“I recognize what you are saying, but this is being done in the context of there being a lack of coverage in the media of climategate. I agree I wouldn’t spend too much time on Gore, Obama, etc., but it is relevant in talking about the wider topic of media coverage (or lack thereof).”
Some of us are using the same tactics as those on the extreme left — turning the use of Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals against them. Two in particular apply here.
Rule #5 — “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.”
Rule #12 — “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”
There is no arguing that Gore is perhaps the easiest target, as poster-child and waterboy for the AGW movement. His sci-fi comedy “An Inconvenient Truth”, subsequent Oscar and Nobel Peace Prize awards and inexcusable use of “The Science Is Setteled” and “The Debate Is Over” mantras make him particularly vulnerable and are at the heart of the topic at hand –the complete and utter lack of coverage by the MSM. The MSM has been coopted by the extreme left. What better way than to expose them for allowing him unquestioned exposure in the media? The more he is made a fool, the more they look foolish for using that tool?
Ivan, lol. Me either.
I don’t have much to add, but I always try to respond to posts with the word “lurch” in them. It just appeals to my inner Zombie.
Thanks for this site, Anthony. I’ve linked to it many a time.
Shambling continues…
http://www.examiner.com/x-11224-Baltimore-Weather-Examiner~y2009m12d3-Climategate-emails-force-Al-Gore-to-cancel-talk-at-Copenhagen
“Harold Blue Tooth (Viking not phone) (19:06:05) :
were the emails hacked??
what a let down for some if it turns out the were legally, or, not illegally, let out”
I found this:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/23/t … planation/
Quote:
There’s an old adage, never assume malice when stupidity or incompetence will explain it.
A short time ago there was a previous leak of CRU data by an insider. In this case, Steve McIntyre acquired station data which he had been requesting for years, but someone inside CRU unofficially made the data available.
In this case, many commentators had various guesses as to the motivation or identity of the disgruntled mole even proposing that perhaps a disgruntled William Connelly was the perpetrator.
Of course it turned out the Phil Jones, director of CRU, himself had inadvertently left the data on an open FTP server.
Many have begun to think that the zip archive FOI2009.zip was prepared internally by CRU in response to Steve McIntyre’s FOI requests, in parallel with attempts to deny the request in case the ability to refuse was lost. There are many reasons to think this is valid and it is consistent with either of the two theories at the beginning of this post. Steve McIntyre’s FOI appeal was denied on November 13th and the last of the emails in the archive is from November 12th.
It would take a hacker massive amounts of work to parse through decades of emails and files but stealing or acquiring a single file is a distinct possibility and does not require massive conspiracy. The same constraints of time and effort would apply to any internal whistle blower. However, an ongoing process of internally collating this information for an FOI response is entirely consistent with what we find in the file.
In the past I have worked at organizations where the computer network grew organically in a disorganized fashion over time. Security policies often fail as users take advantage of shortcuts to simplify their day to day activities. One of these shortcuts is to share files using an FTP server. Casual shortcuts in these instances may lead to gaping security holes. This is not necessarily intentional, but a consequence of human nature to take a shortcut here and there. This casual internal sharing can also lead to unintentional sharing of files with the rest of the Internet as noted in the Phil Jones, CRU mole, example above. Often the FTP server for an organization may also be the organization’s external web server as the two functions are often combined on the same CPU or hardware box. When this occurs, if the organization does not lock down their network thoroughly, the security breaches which could happen by accident are far more likely to occur.
Since Friday November 20th a few users noticed this interesting notice on the CRU website.
This website is currently being served from the CRU Emergency Webserver.
Some pages may be out of date.
Normal service will be resumed as soon as possible.
Here is a screen grab for posterity.
CRU embergency webserver notice
So as part of the security crackdown at CRU they have taken down their external webserver? Network security professionals in the audience will be spitting up coffee all over their keyboards at this point.
So this is my theory is and this is only my theory:
A few people inside CRU possessed the archive of documents being held in reserve in case the FOI appeal decision was made in favor of Steve McIntyre. They shared it with others by putting it in an FTP directory which was on the same CPU as the external webserver, or even worse, was an on a shared drive somewhere to which the webserver had permissions to access. In other words, if you knew where to look, it was publicly available. Then, along comes our “hackers” who happened to find it, download it, and the rest is history unfolding before our eyes. So much for the cries of sophisticated hacking and victimization noted above.
If I had to bet money, I would guess that David Palmer, Information Policy & Compliance Manager, University of East Anglia, has an even chance of being the guilty party, but it would only be a guess.
To repeat the basic premise of this theory.
There’s an old adage, never assume malice when stupidity or incompetence will explain it.
Ray Liotta’s Henry Hill in “Goodfellas”…. when he laments on the good-times coming to an end. Anyone remember that scene?
Fitting…
BBC Radio Debate: Well I listen to BBC Radio but have never been a fan of BBC Five Live and that travesty (can I use that word now?) of a debate hasn’t changed my view.
When we hear it discussed on the station for more serious-minded thinkers, Radio 4, then we might be getting somewhere.
I don’t think Phil Thornhill covered himself in glory exactly – he was ranting. Monckton was dignified, as usual, but could hardly get a word in. The “chairman” talked over him and allowed everyone else to talk over him.
What exactly is there for eGore to say, other than “Oops? I was wrong about *everything* and made a gajillion dollars off lies and more lies.”?
Wonder what it’s like to become a millionaire off of lies and fabrications that scare good people out of their wits?
http://www.uglywomansguide.com/index.php/2009/12/al-gore-cancels/
There was a VERY lively discussion about this , that is – man-made climate change: one big con? – on BBC radio this week. It was the Richard Bacon Show on BBC Radio 5 Live. Pretty fiery stuff.
I think you can still listen to it at http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b007lb08
There’s a list of the shows to which you can listen again. But the facility only lasts a week – so a few days left now
L.A Times: Take back Gore’s Nobel Prize
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/12/al-gore-oscar-global-warming.html
This may come as a consolation:
Prostitutes offer free climate summit sex
http://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/0,1518,665182,00.html
Gail Combs (17:29:38) — thanks for your reply. You sort of make my point — and I mean no disrespect — but going on about conspiracy theories and such make you folks look like the equivalent of the youngsters who protest trade talks — interesting, yes. Entertaining, yes. But someone to guide policy? No thanks. If I want a valid scientific opinion on anything, I’m not going to believe anyone who’s view of reality on some more basic issues is so disconnected from what I see.
If you wonder why the MSM isn’t covering this, it isn’t because of a conspiracy, it is because your side gets sidetracked by all this other “stuff.” And for the folks doing real science, it would be to your advantage to try to step away from the conspiracy/algore/socialist line of attack as quickly as possible.
Now I’ll take cover and await the shells which are sure to come my way.
Big Al knows when to pull the plug on a hoax.People are starting to question this global warming and the well is drying up as far a $$$$.Big Al has made a fortune off people and their fears.Maybe he will come up with a new gig like he has discovered life on mars and he has been in communication with the martians as they want him as their leader.My thoughts go be with them and take Obama,Pelosi and Reid with you..be gone idiots!
I have been saying since the day they announced this global warming scam that it was just a natural cycle. I said man has no effect on Mother Nature at all. It is like taking a picture of a sandy beach scene, and ask someone to remove one grain of sand from the beach where there are 9999999×10 to the tenth power of 99999 Trillion grains of sand, and then ask if you see any difference to the beach scene. The global warming scam has grown so large by Al Gore who made 10-Million Dollars plus a Nobel Political Prize and no one can ever question this scam theory without being considered one of those people who say the world is round, and not flat.
Now we know for a fact that the global warming is a scam, and I can say I was right it was a scam. However you still have leftist who still plan on forward with the hoax even after they were exposed. Makes you wonder if the entire global warming scam was created for the sole reason to stop capitalism, and mans progress. The same thing happen back in the dark ages where people were arguing saying the world is flat. Maybe Al Gore and all the Obama global leftist communist global warming nuts can jump on a ship, and sail off the edge of their flat planet.
_Jim (19:56:10) :
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Helloooooooo Gail !!!??
Have you checked the date recently?
Reply:
Yes I have. I used that as a quick example instead of several pages showing how corrupted the news media is. For example the actual reason for the Kent State riots in the seventies was never published because Vietnam vets being denied the right to vote would have caused an outrage against the government. That is why the MSM showed film footage of riots at Purdue University nationwide that was faked. There were no riots not even any gatherings of students during that time period. I and close friends have been witnesses to a lot more besides those two incidences. Heck my father in law owns a newspaper and I grew up with the Gannetts.
Money owns the news, money owns the government and money owns the political activists even though they do not know it.
Who the heck is JBS by the way???
News for Al and Copenhagen: It’s snowing in Houston, TX today. It’s the earliest snowfall on record, ever.
Just like the Groundhog, Al disappears and hibernates until the first heat wave of spring. Then he pops up like Phil and declares “it’s global warming, again”.
Kevin (07:32:51) :
Gail Combs (17:29:38) — thanks for your reply. You sort of make my point …
If you wonder why the MSM isn’t covering this, it isn’t because of a conspiracy, it is because your side gets sidetracked by all this other “stuff.” And for the folks doing real science, it would be to your advantage to try to step away from the conspiracy/algore/socialist line of attack as quickly as possible.
Now I’ll take cover and await the shells which are sure to come my way.
REPLY:
I would have agree with you a few years ago. However after three years of fighting big money on another issue I lost my rose colored glasses. That happens when the government allows people to die and then covers it up.
see: http://www.marlerblog.com/2009/07/articles/lawyer-oped/one-e-coli-o157h7-outbreak-i-think-i-could-have-prevented/
John Munsell and Derry Brownfield would be really happy to tell you how the UN and WTO are running rough shod over American farmers, poisoning people and the media and US government are covering it up. It is not a “conspiracy” it is documented in spades by a lot of people worldwide. The blasted “Congressional investigations” were so rigged it made bludsh in shame to be an American. AGW is just more of the same.
This is a very well documented history of what is going on in food/farming.
http://www.opednews.com/articles/History-HACCP-and-the-Foo-by-Nicole-Johnson-090906-229.html
Oh by the way I an a capitalist who hate Corporatism.
I believe Gore ducked out of Copenhagen so he could direct his attention to Washington. Or at least, that’s the impression I got from a Times article – Gore puts pressure on Obama.
I don’t often read the Times, but picked one up in the library to pass the time. Apparently they are running a countdown to Copenhagen series. The whole article seems to have been a verbatim report of Gore, interspersed with the phrase “he said.” I didn’t actually read the whole article, but I noticed that each paragraph began with the words “He said.”
The way this paper is fawning over this man is incredible. Even more incredible, is that he even outranks James Hansen. Unbelievable, yet there it was in black and white. The typist (I would not use the term reporter) wrote that James Hansen disagrees with Gore’s support of Copenhagen, but since Hansen isn’t allowed to comment, all the reader gets is Gore’s take on it.
And where was the climategate issue? I found it in the last paragraph. Some skeptics believe, apparently, that the stolen emails suggest the science is wrong. Again, the only person allowed to comment is – you guessed it – Gore. You would not be wrong if you guessed his take was something along the lines that this event is the last gasp of the deniers and their non reality.
So there I saw how far has fallen a once mighty newspaper.
No AGWhore? Maybe his new condo on the rising ocean flood plain in Frisco needs sandbagging already.