Gore cancels on Copenhagen lecture – leaves ticketholders in a lurch

It seems the uncertainty about Copenhagen is growing. When Al baby pulls the plug, you know it’s hosed.

From Berlingske: Al Gore cancels lecture during COP15

Al Gore cancels lecture during COP15

Former U.S. vice president has canceled his event, more than 3,000 Danes have purchased a ticket. Photo: JOSE MENDEZ

Looks like they will get a refund though. Might be worth more as a collectors item in ten years though.

I wonder how many people have shelled out $1200 to shake Al’s hand? Maybe not enough and he couldn’t cover the expenses for his private jet?

From the Washington Post:

“Have you ever shaken hands with an American vice president? If not, now is your chance. Meet Al Gore in Copenhagen during the UN Climate Change Conference,” notes the Danish tourism commission, which is helping Mr. Gore promote “Our Choice,” his newest book about global warming in all its alarming modalities.

“Tickets are available in different price ranges for the event. If you want it all, you can purchase a VIP ticket, where you get a chance to shake hands with Al Gore, get a copy of Our Choice and have your picture taken with him. The VIP event costs DKK 5,999 and includes drinks and a light snack.”

Wait, what? How much is that in American dollars? The currency conversion says it all, too: 5,999 Danish kroners is equivalent to $1,209.

“If you do not want to spend that much money, but still want to hear Al Gore speak about his latest book about climate challenges, you can purchase general tickets, ranging in price from DKK 199-1,499 depending on where in the room you want to sit,” the practical Danes advise. “There will be large screens, so that everyone will get a good view.”

Yah, such a deal.

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December 3, 2009 10:08 am

Like Al, I’m speechless.

December 3, 2009 10:09 am

Like rats deserting a sinking ship.
Perhaps it wouldn’t be sinking if they hadn’t gnawed so many holes in the hull?

Reed Coray
December 3, 2009 10:10 am

Talk about a courageous stand. The man just exudes leadership. Oh well, at least he has many residences where he can hide. The new shell game will be: Guess which energy-efficient home Big Al is hiding in?

December 3, 2009 10:10 am

The organizers of Copenhagen, obviously aware of the Gore effect, are trying to undo the blustery weather heading their way. It might work. Give them credit.

December 3, 2009 10:11 am

Why would anyone pay $1 dollar to listen to Al Bore talk about pseudoscience and manbearpig? Maybe they want to hear that the earth’s core is the same temperature as a small red dwarf star and the crust is very hot too (which explains the sheet of ice on my car this morning). He should’ve asked Travolta to take him. He’s going anyway so give your old buddy Al a lift.

December 3, 2009 10:14 am

I wonder how the sales of “Our Choice” are going.
This just keeps getting better.

December 3, 2009 10:16 am

I wonder if it is too late to purchase a ticket for $40 USD then put it on EBAY

Henry chance
December 3, 2009 10:16 am

Save 10,000 pounds CO2 an hour flying his plane. How altruistic of algore.
I saw this a bit ago and posted a link. I suspect with his ego, he is afraid of the worst. Will he return his Nobull Piece prize?

December 3, 2009 10:16 am

Domino #1?

December 3, 2009 10:19 am

I wonder how long it will be before these (useless) tickets start showing up on eBay? ;->

Henry chance
December 3, 2009 10:19 am

Joe Romm on Climate progress posted yesterday they are going armed with new Flip cameras. He will miss his shots of Joe Romm bowing to Algore and Obama bowing to James Hansen.

December 3, 2009 10:19 am

Hide the asinine.

December 3, 2009 10:20 am

You never see those guys with “The End is Near” sandwich boards smiling like Al is in this picture. Wattsupwiththat? Is that smile obscene or what? How can you be such a doomsday-er and still look like a silly sneak who just woke up and realized that he had won the lottery, an Oscar and a Nobel prize all at the same time and on complete joke. Now comes the later realization that the rest of the world is also just waking up, and will see him for what the charlatan he really is. His historic reputation is going to one for ages. The front man for the biggest scientific and political boondoggle ever. The bigger they are the harder they fall. He who smiles last smiles best.

dave ward
December 3, 2009 10:21 am

Oh diddums, is being shouted at in a bookshop too much for you Al?
He’s had his own way for too long – now it’s all going wrong, and he can’t take a bit of flack…

December 3, 2009 10:22 am

You can run, but you can not hide..

December 3, 2009 10:23 am

Maybe Al has just seen this………
“”The President of the Maldives recently held a Cabinet meeting underwater, saying his islands may be submerged. In an open letter, taken from the climate change supplement in the latest issue of the The Spectator, Nils-Axel Mörner assures him his country is safe……….””
Nils-Axel Morner is a sea level specilaist. Read his letter, it deserves framing…….

December 3, 2009 10:23 am

If you were to plot the attendance on a graph would it be an inverted hockey stick?

Richard A.
December 3, 2009 10:24 am

“Why would anyone pay $1 dollar to listen to Al Bore talk about pseudoscience and manbearpig?”
Insomniacs. It’s the perfect sedative.

December 3, 2009 10:25 am

It is impossible to write an “ad hominem” about him….☺

December 3, 2009 10:25 am

If this is really true, Copenhagen will be the biggest circus in History… More like a Roman arena!!! And I wanna see it!
Frankly, this is getting better each day!!!

December 3, 2009 10:26 am

Gore has probably had a call from Hansen and taken his advice that Copenhagen agreements will not be ‘strong enough’ (to create a good investment vehicle in Gore’s case.)

Jack Green
December 3, 2009 10:26 am

He needs more time to work on his new book. Plastic the real threat to mankind.
Can we do a FOIA request to a former Vice President? I believe he’s still on our payroll.

December 3, 2009 10:28 am

Al looks like the Devil himself in that picture. It’s really eerie.

December 3, 2009 10:29 am

Nothing about this in the MSM

John W.
December 3, 2009 10:31 am

You’re all wrong.
Gore and Hansen needed the time to work out their new theory of Anthropogenic Global Cooling.

December 3, 2009 10:32 am

The refund probably will be in (soon to be worthless) carbon credits.

Indiana Bones
December 3, 2009 10:32 am

Note that this illuminating opportunity is promoted not by the UN or by the Conference itself – but by the Danish Tourism Board. So Al has become a tourist attraction. Mickey Mouse will be losing sleep.

December 3, 2009 10:35 am

The real question is asked in the article. How many tickets did they sell? Who would pay to touch the hand of this man? And to have photographic evidence of it! It could qualify as one of life’s most embarrassing moments. You would ever after have that story to tell at parties when the game turned to sharing the dumbest thing you ever did. It would trump a lot of other stories, but brand you as naive no nothing too, so probably still not worth it. People are beginning to understand that it’s time to distance themselves from the global warming thing. Probably more people would pay $1,200 right now for cover that would give them plausible deniability than for something that would indelibly establish them as belonging to that vanishing species called a Warming Alarmist of the Al Gore Tribe.

L Bowser
December 3, 2009 10:38 am

Re: The new shell game will be: Guess which energy-efficient home Big Al is hiding in?
None. To the best of my knowledge, I believe he doesn’t actually own one. Unless of course you actually buy all his garbage about clean energy credits making up for his Tenesee monstrosity. I suppose he could try and rent the Bush ranch to hide out in for a while…

December 3, 2009 10:38 am

will have to hire another jester

December 3, 2009 10:40 am

Copenhagen Conference will create 40 584 tons of carbon footprint. What hypocrites.
Life is a lot lighter now, that finally the deception has been exposed. I get up easier in the morning.
Thank you, whistle blower, Wattupwiththat and all the ethical scientists

December 3, 2009 10:42 am

I think Al was spooked in Chicago and is now afraid of people.

Leon Brozyna
December 3, 2009 10:43 am

It’s Climategate blowback.
He’s already begun feeling the heat (and it’s not from any climate warming) in the form of increasingly vocal protests everytime he appears to speak. Sure to get worse as the depth and breadth of Climategate sinks into the public consciousness.
Gives new meaning to “hide the decline”!

son of mulder
December 3, 2009 10:43 am

Well that $1200 I’ve saved.

December 3, 2009 10:48 am
December 3, 2009 10:49 am

Al knows that he would have been asked about the CRU e-mails. Since one of them (1217431501) sounds just like his latest rantings, I’m sure he would have been asked if he was bcc:-ed.

December 3, 2009 10:50 am

I imagine he is laying pretty low right now, poor fellas world is crumbling around him at the moment at he doesnt seem to have the fight in him to come out and fight but then he never did.

JimB in Canada
December 3, 2009 10:53 am

“It seems the uncertainty about Copenhagen is growing. When Al baby pulls the plug, you know it’s hosed.”
I want the T Shirt!

December 3, 2009 10:53 am

“Sean Peake (10:29:00) :
Nothing about this in the MSM”….
That’s because he doesn’t sell anymore…How pitiful!

December 3, 2009 10:53 am

I’m embarassed to say this. Hmm… Where do I begin?
Many years ago, before I ever heard of Global Climate Warming Change and Hope and So Forth, I re-named an unmentionable part of my anatomy. I had originally named it Little Elvis, but felt badly that the accessories had no name of their own.
So, in a fit of ingenuity (?), I named the entire nether region Big Al and the Boys. The more accurate name, Medium-sized Al and the Boys, lacked sonority.

December 3, 2009 10:55 am

This is huge. Gore never misses an opportunity to rub elbows with the elitists in this realm. He must have done the “final run” on his presentation in front of some insiders, and someone had the nerve to say “Al, given the CRU revelation, this is a bunch of bulls***.”
Duck and Cover time.

December 3, 2009 10:55 am

CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, and others need to be investigated and indicted as accomplices in the Climategate fraud, and have their FCC licenses revoked for their participation in perpetuating the fraud.
The power of the MSM to influence the minds of the public and brainwash the listeners is a documented scientific fact therefore, they must be held to a higher standard when broadcasting and be held to account for the lies of omission they take part in as well as the pervasive political one sided agenda they push.
FCC rules have been violated by not reporting on the Climategate scandal and their crime is obvious. The public must demand an investigation of the MSM.

Rhys Jaggar
December 3, 2009 10:55 am

Couldn’t you line up Sarah Palin to tell them all that the ice on the NW of Alaska is forming really, really fast this year?
The NSIDC satellite pictures show it.
So it must be true, mustn’t it??
Any locals on your blogosphere able to provide direct visual confirmation??
Course, for the interests of fairness, you’d better bring an Indian from Churchill to say that Hudson Bay’s taking its time to refreeze this winter….
And hey: fly in the Veep of Intrawest to peddle Olympic packages for 2010 in Whistler. The snow in November’s been so great only the pineapple to beat all pineapples will make the event anything other than awesome…..
Al’ll be at Whistler, after all. Cruise the blues, then schmooze the IB crews, eh? Get that billion dollar CCS IPO away, Al!! Wall Street still loves ya baby!!
And now I’ve alerted him to Churchill, he’ll be flying in there to make a movie like yesterday, won’t he??
Maybe he and Tiger should meet up to compare notes, eh?
The greatest star on the block going through some ‘local difficulties’……..
Dear me….

December 3, 2009 10:57 am

Al’s not going? I have this image of Obama walking into an empty auditorium.

December 3, 2009 10:57 am

This sort of looks like a house of cards collapsing,
Gore bails, Jones steps down and Mann goes for the throat.

December 3, 2009 10:59 am

Maybe Ghore found out someone he didn’t want to shake hands, take pictures and share a snack with had bought a ticket.

John Silver
December 3, 2009 11:00 am

Please, Anthony! No more pictures of that greasy face, turns my stomach!
Piers Corbyn is forecasting the Gore effect:
“WeatherAction releases free long range forecast for Copenhagen
Climate summit to be hit by blustery deluges, probably turning to snow or blizzards and icy blasts in the region at times – especially heavy when President Obama visits”
Read all about it:

December 3, 2009 11:00 am

There is no way to patch this sinking ship … And still the lamestream media ignores.

Thomas J. Arnold.
December 3, 2009 11:01 am

I’d pay him to shut up!
Is the mood music getting to Al Goreballs?
I really do hope so, sincerely!
Delingpole going head to head with Monbiot tonight.
Monbiot is a smooth talker, and Delingpole is not so self assured, hope he’s ‘genned’ up on some of the science, which is a difficult ask given the subject is so vast.
Anyway I’ve wished him – James Delingpole good luck.

December 3, 2009 11:02 am

I read that the conference is going to be powered by Danish windmills. If Al doesn’t show up, who’s going to provide the wind?

December 3, 2009 11:03 am

Maybe Al decided it was high time he set an example to his disciples and reduce his carbon footprint…?
Nah, he’s running scared. 😀

December 3, 2009 11:03 am

““Have you ever shaken hands with an American vice president? ”
No, I shook hands with [President] LBJ (actually, he smahed mine, dude was huge).
The thought of shaking hands with Gore at this point reminds me of that commercial that opened with “Ever shake hands with a Lobster?”

December 3, 2009 11:04 am

Since there are always threats against folks in his position, I would not put it past them to blame this on advice from the Secret Service or Danish Authorities. His safety not being guaranteed, etc..

December 3, 2009 11:06 am

there are a lot of people who have Al Gore’s phone number. Some of them are smart enough to see a con exploding in their face when they see one. And it would not surprise me in the slightest if at least some of them have called to say that they just don’t believe him anymore.
Also, Copenhagen is sure to be a colossal bust and Gore wants to avoid the association.
I wonder what his fortune is worth now?

December 3, 2009 11:11 am

Gore skips town.
MSM snores.
Hansen disses Hopenhagen.
MSM snores.
Jones resigns.
MSM snores.
Mann disowns Jones.
MSM snores.
Charges and Lawsuits are filed.
MSM snores.
See a pattern here?
Hey MSM, where are ya?
Fox owns the whole scandal, and all you got is a tee shirt.
There is politically correct, and then there is blatantly oblivious.

December 3, 2009 11:13 am

I have a friend whose wife works at NCAR in Boulder, on her way to work the otherday there was a guy walking his dog and everytime a car came up the drive to NCAR he opened his coat to reveal a large sign that said “NCAR is a joke!” You know when they’re heckling in Boulder the wheels are falling off the bus. Couldn’t happen to a nicer bunch.

Arthur Glass
December 3, 2009 11:13 am

I think I believe in Santa Claus!
I feel like it’s 1989 again, and the Velvet Revolution is happening again1
The truth shall make you free!

December 3, 2009 11:16 am


December 3, 2009 11:16 am

My caption for the lead photograph:
“Would you buy a used planet from this man?”

Phil M.
December 3, 2009 11:18 am

Maybe he does not like the look of the google trends.
When the lines cross it might be all over.

Bill P
December 3, 2009 11:18 am

Please Al… Say it ain’t so.

Expat in France
December 3, 2009 11:19 am

UK Channel 4 has been running a nightly report from Brazil, and had quite a bit to say about doubts about the legitimacy of carbon trading and questions the whole point of Copenhagen in view of the ongoing revelations. I hope it turns out to be the disaster it deserves to be.

December 3, 2009 11:20 am

Maybe a ne buffet was opening that weekend near his home !!
I agree !! Like rats from a sinking ship !!

Fred C
December 3, 2009 11:22 am

I wonder if GE’s spinning-off of NBC Universal to Comcast (and only retaining a 20% stake) is their initial volley at throwing-in the towel on their “Green” business model, which was heavily based on getting Cap-and-Trade passed as well as all the future carbon trading schemes which may now be (hopefully) derailed forever by Climategate. GE Chief Executive Jeffrey Immelt used NBC, MSNBC, and The Weather Channel to get their global warming message out – and it is inexplicable that they would divest this part of the business unless they see the writing on the wall for CO2-based business models.

Bruce Cobb
December 3, 2009 11:22 am

Oh, no! Hokumhagen won’t be the same without Big Al. Well, the show must go on.

December 3, 2009 11:23 am

I guess now that people are looking more closely, Al Gore is afraid his appearance will draw attention to how Enron was a huge supporter of cap-and-trade with Ken Lay himself pushing it. Krugman unsurprising was on the Enron payroll, so that could help explain his recent tirade and projection about who is on whose payroll. Greenpeace and others took large sums of money from Enron. Then there’s also the matter of Shell and BP and a number of other companies who stand to gain with cap-and-trade. I’ve been disappointed in Discover Magazine and New Scientist, but – surprise surprise – whenever I see those magazines trying to explain it away, there’s an ad for Shell paying for the article. There really needs to be a hardcore push showing who stands to profit (and what the relationships are) from Copenhagen.
I’m not saying pro-AGW or anti-AGW is purer than the other, just by cancelling out all these “You’re in X’s pocket” can then put more of a focus on the science instead of letting PR spin attempt to distract away.

December 3, 2009 11:25 am

There is not enough political capital in the world to make this go away. Gore realizes this by now. The BBC is still pretending it can hand-wave the entire episode – its featured article on the entire scandal is nothing more than an irrelevant rant about science. The liberal media is throwing itself under the bus trying (and failing) to obfuscate the issue.
I guess we do still live in a free world!

December 3, 2009 11:27 am

Take a look at the picture of Al Gore in front of the earth (top of this post).
I mean, look at those squinting eyes and that “smile” or whatever we may call it. Who was so careless to evoke satan? Please stop it so we can make him go back to hell where he came from 😉
He is truly awful oh boy…

December 3, 2009 11:28 am

tarpon (11:00:12) :
There is no way to patch this sinking ship … And still the lamestream media ignores.
….don’t you think it’s because they are in the same ship?

December 3, 2009 11:28 am

Because half-a-dozen grasshoppers under a fern make the field ring with their importunate chink, whilst thousands of great cattle, reposed beneath the shadow of the British oak, chew the cud and are silent, pray do not imagine that those who make the noise are the only inhabitants of the field; that of course they are many in number; or that, after all, they are other than the little shriveled, meager, hopping, though loud and troublesome insects of the hour.
Edmund Burke
One Insect Down >8-)

Fred from Canuckistan . . .
December 3, 2009 11:29 am

Copenhagen is Danish for “Gong Show”
This is going to some of the best entertainment ever.
Might have to fire up the PVR so I can enjoy the Gonging more than once 🙂

December 3, 2009 11:31 am

As for the tickets for Al Gore, perhaps some day in the future they will be on prominent display in an “Integrity of Science” museum.

JimB in Canada
December 3, 2009 11:32 am

Seriously though Keep that picture Gore!
I see that picture and always think:
“No Mr Bond …. I expect you to die…”
Could someone get Gore holding a fat white furry cat, that would be great!

December 3, 2009 11:33 am

Don’t celebrate too soon. Long way to go. I’ve posted part of this elsewhere but maybe someone will comment.
The dreadful Nature editorial underlines the nature of the crisis. Hope I’m wrong but but I would have thought it obvious that those of us sceptical of AGW will, as we approach the date for Copenhagen and beyond, continue to be sidelined into obscurity. Aside from a few minor reactions to ClimateGate (maybe the odd sacking) the bandwagon will roll on with its massive economic effects being felt across the planet and certainly by everyone in the West.
Isn’t it time for those sceptical of the AGW thesis to consider a focussed strategy with as centrepiece, one well publicised single web location detailing at various technical levels every argument ever put forward for the AGW position together with an authoritative and exhaustive rebuttal or at least a presentation of evidence demonstrating the science is certainly NOT settled?

December 3, 2009 11:33 am

And the “lamestream” media wonders why circulation/revenue is down? By the possible time they might begin to take Climategate seriously it will have been SETTLED. The LSM wants AGW to be real as they can’t report anything more than one (CO2) variable at a time.
Will Oblahmba really attend Copenhagen? Bets?

Jeff Wood
December 3, 2009 11:35 am

My dear HPJnr, I hope you didn’t resort to a tattoo – that would be really embarrassing.

P Gosselin
December 3, 2009 11:35 am
December 3, 2009 11:39 am

sorry guyS but OT .
Some news from NIWA n.z to last weeks story .”Climate scientists say temperatures in New Zealand have risen 1degC between 1931 and 2008″.
A 1995 study identified an upward trend of about 0.7degC from 1900 to 1993 in night time minimum air temperatures measured from ships over the ocean surrounding New Zealand.
It was responding to a continuing row — the so-called “climategate” controversy in which the private emails of climate scientists were hacked and leaked on the internet by climate change sceptics who accused them of manipulating data to show the world’s climate is warming.
Sorry NIWA but on the internet you can get info from weather station 937800 (NZCH) that says their only has been a warming of less than .07c years 1954-2000.

December 3, 2009 11:40 am

Al Gore took my advice! I told him via my Illiquidassets.net blog… “Mr Gore, When you are in a Sh_t Storm Keep your Mouth Shut!”
He is afraid of an Inconvenient Question.

Nigel Brereton
December 3, 2009 11:43 am

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December 3, 2009 11:44 am

PhilW (10:48:58) :
Blue line almost zero for the Philippines

December 3, 2009 11:44 am

John W. (10:31:59) :
“You’re all wrong.
Gore and Hansen needed the time to work out their new theory of Anthropogenic Global Cooling.”
Reply: Nah… your wrong. This scenario was done back in the 70’s and from the CIA report ‘A Study of Climate Change as it Pertains to Intellgence Problems’, so the next scare is packaged & ready to go. They can still even use the same pcture of the Polar Bear stranded on that cold iceflo ;-))
I would willingly pay £10,000 if when I met Al Gore, they would let me punch him on the nose.

December 3, 2009 11:45 am

Is it just me or is Big Al looking more and more like the stereotypical villain in a James Bond movie? Carbonfinger perhaps? Attempting to use nefarious means to control the carbon market and bring the world economy to its collective knees?

December 3, 2009 11:45 am

Hi security guards refuse to go with him. They complained there would be too many people that Al Gore would asked to be escorted outside because of their inquiring questions…

Roger Knights
December 3, 2009 11:46 am

Moreno cleverly refers to this meeting as “Nopenhagen.”

December 3, 2009 11:47 am

I just tried logging into my Facebook account and the entire login page IS IN DANISH!
I have never had my language settings set to anything other than English.
Is this Facebook forcing us to become “climately aware”?

December 3, 2009 11:47 am

You guys really hurt your credibility when you go on about Gore — almost as bad as Climate Progress.
If you want your side of the science to be taken seriously, you should be serious.
If you want to go on about Gore and the plot by socialists (which is fun) as your primary lines of attack, you weaken those with real analysis to offer.

December 3, 2009 11:49 am

The lamestream aren’t ignoring it, they just don’t think it’s relevant. Of course the blogs are way ahead of the curve here but, unfortunately 6 or 7 whitewashes later, it’ll be back to business as usual.
By the way, why did Gore cancel his talk?

December 3, 2009 11:49 am

“Piers Corbyn is forecasting the Gore effect:
WeatherAction releases free long range forecast for Copenhagen”
Could that be the reason then, to reverse the Gore effect?
I suspect it has more to do with the book signing incident. The surprising thing about that was how young the protestors looked – anywhere else I would have taken them for environmentalists; they certainly didn’t look like oil barons.
Imagine it, a true grass roots protest movement of young activists – denouncing the greatest fraud of modern times.

Evan Jones
December 3, 2009 11:50 am

Is there any reason given for why he canceled?

December 3, 2009 11:53 am

Maybe they should just invite Lord Monckton as the replacement speaker …

December 3, 2009 11:56 am

AC (10:28:47) :
Al looks like the Devil himself in that picture. It’s really eerie.
Father of Lies, lol, judging just from the wrong way hurricane in his book cover and the equatorial cyclone.
…. the devil took him to Google Earth, and showed him all the kingdoms of the world, and their glory…..
Begone, Goracle and good riddance.
Looks like snow in San Antonio tomorrow, is Gore planning a golf weekend there?

December 3, 2009 11:56 am

evanmjones (11:50:18) : Is there any reason given for why he canceled?
They say there were not enough takers for the US $1,200 admission fee and he couldnt hide the decline

December 3, 2009 11:57 am

His wallet is more important than giving a talk at some meeting. The pressure is on to abandon the Cap & Trade bill in the senate. This bill has to pass for him to make billions of $$$. So, this is where he must work right now. You should contact your senators to make sure they have the proper information before he puts pressure on them. They should also be aware that Al is no brainiac in science… the man does not even know the temperature of the core of the Earth…
Mantle is about 870 degrees Celsius.
Outer core is about 4,400 degrees Celsius to about 6,100 degrees Celsius.
Inner core is about 7,000 degrees Celsius.

December 3, 2009 11:57 am

Is it possible that Gore will actually try to claim innocence and say he was duped by these scientists along with the rest of the public ? Could he get away with it?

Power Grab
December 3, 2009 11:58 am

So…if Al’s not presenting at Copenhagen…does that mean we won’t see the famous “Gore Effect”?
I was hoping for a record-breaking blizzard during their visit.

December 3, 2009 11:59 am

Al “The Tree” Gore is a moron and a coward and I once told him that to his face. He cried like a little girl.
Global warming is a total hoax perpetuated by psueudo-scientists who are actually Marxists in disguise. It is an attempt by Europeans and others from socialistic countries that are jealous of the success of the US and are thus trying to cripple our economy.

December 3, 2009 11:59 am

Cameron’s climate change policies under fire as David Davis attacks ‘green fixation’
Tory backbencher David Davis has launched an open challenge to David Cameron’s climate change policies by criticising the ‘fixation’ of the green movement. David Davis was the leadership challenger to Cameron, how many more will raise their heads.

December 3, 2009 12:01 pm

Maybe a correction to the earth core temperature… according to a new method developed in 2006, the core could be more around 3,677 degrees Celsius.

Power Grab
December 3, 2009 12:04 pm

>evanmjones (11:50:18) :
>Is there any reason given for why he canceled?
Maybe he got H1N1 flu?

December 3, 2009 12:06 pm

Oh oh … what will my investors say?

December 3, 2009 12:07 pm

MikeH (11:57:22) : Is it possible that Gore will actually try to claim innocence and say he was duped by these scientists along with the rest of the public ? Could he get away with it?
Dont be ridiculous. Gore is the guy who invented AGW.
He has been caught out in this swindle by the internet, which he also invented.
He has cancelled his talk because the time for talking is over.
Besides why should he go to a place where the Earth has caught a chill and he might get pneumonia. Better to bask in places where the Earth has a fever.

Power Grab
December 3, 2009 12:07 pm

This situation is looking more and more like that scene from the movie Ratatouille, where the little old French lady shoots so many holes in her farmhouse ceiling with her shotgun that it falls, exposing a multitude of rats, who then take off running.
That movie has a nice sound track.
Hey! Isn’t it about time for another musical offering to commemorate this unprecedented point in history?

December 3, 2009 12:08 pm

Perhaps they can have Barrie Harrop stand in for him?
[REPLY – Heh! Heh! At least someone gets that. ~v Evan]

December 3, 2009 12:11 pm

I’ve tried twice to post a link to two different articles on WUWT to the BBC Newsnight website comment area – both have been ‘moderated’.
I’ve just left this comment – let’s see if that gets deleted too
“Why are you referring references to a specific website with 3m hits in the last two weeks to moderation?” There are plenty of links to other sites so it’s not an exteral linking issue.
I’m appalled. They did let through a comment where I said ‘ At 6:44pm on 03 Dec 2009, you wrote:
“Forgot to point out that the MWP referred to is the Medieaval Warming Period where vineyards flourished nr Hadrian’s Wall to grazing cattle in Greenland.
Prf Jones et al would have you believe that this is ‘an anomaly’ despite it lasting 400yrs and documented widely by historians.
It doesn’t take many braincells to notice that it is not that warm now since Greenland is mostly covered in ice. To make ‘global warming’ a ‘fact’ they simply left it out. I don’t think that there were many SUVs or coal fired power stations then either, do you?
Seriously, look at the emails and code comments – its there in b/w
To coin a phrase – do you believe your lying eyes?”

December 3, 2009 12:13 pm


David Thomson
December 3, 2009 12:15 pm

Gore must be a big fan of Photoshop. That image of the Earth behind him has an artificial lens flare added to the Earth’s horizon. In order for the Earth to be illuminated as shown, the Sun would have to be well to the right of the photo, and not barely coming up on the horizon.
There is nothing wrong with photoshopping images, as they are pleasing to look at. But with a reputation for photoshopping hurricanes onto an otherwise calm Earth for his book cover, he should really back down from this practice. This is especially true as Climate-Gate continues to emerge and he gets drawn into the fray.

Henry chance
December 3, 2009 12:15 pm

Algore needs new power point pages. Some with hotter flames. More drama. “The science is in”.
Algore is scared to death that some reporters will approach him with questions. His phobia of being cornered is terrifying.

December 3, 2009 12:22 pm

So why is it that the vast majority of google hits on “Climategate” are coming from Stockholm? Is that where the UN / IPCC damage control team is headquartered? Or is it the Nobel Butt-Covering team?

Craig Moore
December 3, 2009 12:23 pm

What? No dancing ManBearPig to entertain the dignitaries?

December 3, 2009 12:24 pm

Must read over at Pajamas Media about Snows of Kilamanjaro

December 3, 2009 12:26 pm

>> why did Gore cancel his talk?
According to the Berlingske link at the top of this page, the reason is because of “unexpected changes in Al Gore’s program”.
Lisbeth Knudsen, head of Berlingske Media, who invited to the event adds:
“We do not yet know the detailed reasons for the cancellation”
Note: I live in Copenhagen. I can report that, to my knowledge, there is not a single newspaper or TV-station covering this in any serious way.

December 3, 2009 12:26 pm

RE: Phil M. (11:18:02) :
Maybe he does not like the look of the google trends.
When the lines cross it might be all over.
You would have missed a bit. Try
“climategate”, “climate gate”, “global warming”
Some people are searching for “climte gate”, two words.

Julie KS
December 3, 2009 12:28 pm

On the theme of rats jumping ship, if you care to venture into Huffington Post’s Green page, it’s sort of interesting to see several op-eds on the left calling for scrapping cap and trade.
They still claim climate change is an imminent disaster of course, but cap and trade is the wrong approach. Maybe I’m too optimistic, but I hope this is one more sign that that atrocious bill is losing support.

Cassandra King
December 3, 2009 12:34 pm

Here in dear old blighty(UK) our dear leader Gordon Brown has been getting quite a reputation as a latter day Jonah spreading bad luck and chaos wherever he goes and whatever he touches, he is so desperate for some positive press that he took it upon himself to inflate the importance of the Copenhagen summit calling leaders around the world urging them to “put their reputations on the line to ensure the success of the summit” and it looks like he has cursed the whole circus.
As soon as our unelected mad pretender jumps on a bandwaggon you can be pretty certain the whole thing will collapse into rubble, still after the charade goes tits up he will of course claim that he was opposed to the whole idea and was indeed a sceptic all along as I suspect will Al Gore?
In the US I believe Mr Obama has staked his reputation on the great global warming swindle, ooops he should have known to keep his distance from the Jonah across the pond in little ole England land town.
Still Al Gore can always disappear to spend more time with his money untill a new money making scam appears, he could even write a book or two.

December 3, 2009 12:38 pm

Here’s the link to the 1974 CIA document, ‘A Study of Climate Change as it Pertains to Intellgence Problems’ :-
Well worth a read, and I think some of the science shown is better than todays stuff.

December 3, 2009 12:38 pm

John Silver (11:00:11) :
“Please, Anthony! No more pictures of that greasy face, turns my stomach!”
Maybe this one is more appropriate: click

Henry chance
December 3, 2009 12:39 pm

Big Al
“I ain’t copin’ with Copenhagen”!!!!
How about we pass the hat take donations and send Sir Anthony Watts. Tis the season of party crashers!!!

December 3, 2009 12:41 pm

Al Gore, wrong once more: click

Richard Heg
December 3, 2009 12:41 pm

E-mails hacked from a climate research institute suggest climate change does not have a human cause, according to Saudi Arabia’s lead climate negotiator.
Mohammad Al-Sabban told BBC News that the issue will have a “huge impact” on next week’s UN climate summit, with countries unwilling to cut emissions…………….

December 3, 2009 12:43 pm

“You guys really hurt your credibility when you go on about Gore — almost as bad as Climate Progress.
If you want your side of the science to be taken seriously, you should be serious.”
I recognize what you are saying, but this is being done in the context of there being a lack of coverage in the media of climategate. I agree I wouldn’t spend too much time on Gore, Obama, etc., but it is relevant in talking about the wider topic of media coverage (or lack thereof).

December 3, 2009 12:44 pm

Copenhagen forecast 100% accurate: Many countries will send to copenhagen second rank officials to avoid the embarrassment.

December 3, 2009 12:47 pm

evanmjones (11:50:18) :
Is there any reason given for why he canceled?
He ran out of carbon credits.

TFN Johnson
December 3, 2009 12:48 pm

This for Anthony, for whom I have no direct email address. OK, ‘denier’ can be banned, with all those holocaust overtones. But being ‘in denial’ is much more innocent, and part of everyday English. Gee, I’m in denial about drinking a bottle of wine a day, despite my doc saying my legs are ‘compromised’. After a decade of being accused of being in denial about AGW (or being called a ‘contrarian’) it seems to me that it’s the the AGW crowd that have been in denial ever since they spotted that temperatures were just not rising along with CO2 concentration. Ever more concrned about that they resorted to fraud. C’est la vie.

Henry chance
December 3, 2009 12:49 pm

‘masquerade paper faces on parade, masquerade hide your face so the world can never find you!’

Copenhagen is reduced to a masquerade ball. Obama can’t miss it for so many reasons on so many levels.
Algore wants to hide his face.

December 3, 2009 12:50 pm

Funny animation of Al:

L Nettles
December 3, 2009 12:53 pm

Did Steve M. buy a ticket?

Ed Scott
December 3, 2009 12:54 pm

The glittering idiot, California’s pre-eminent climatologist, Senator Boxer, wants a criminal investigation into the “illegal hacking” of CRU emails, and quotes U. S. law as the basis for this action.
In view of the fact that U. S. law procedures have been extended to the terrorists in the Middle East and that the Supreme Court of the U. S. regularly bases its decisions on foreign law, it is perfectly reasonable to extend U. S. law to Britain’s East Anglia University and the CRU computers..
Part of the New World Government, you know.
Sen. Boxer: ‘You call it Climate gate — I Call it E-Mail-Theft-Gate’

December 3, 2009 12:55 pm

Hopefully when BO stops in Copenhagen, there will be such a massive ice storm it freezes him in there till the spring thaw at least.

Allen C
December 3, 2009 12:55 pm

Humans breath increases the concentration of CO2 by a factor of 100 (http://users.rcn.com/jkimball.ma.ultranet/BiologyPages/P/Pulmonary.html). If all the warmest really wanted to reduce the amount of CO2 in the air, they would all just stop breathing — voila! Problem solved!

December 3, 2009 12:55 pm

Smokey (12:38:13) :
John Silver (11:00:11) :
“Please, Anthony! No more pictures of that greasy face, turns my stomach!”
Maybe this one is more appropriate: click

Here’s my effort

December 3, 2009 12:57 pm

Kevin, I agree. Civility will return after a few hours of venting.

December 3, 2009 12:59 pm

Mainsteam media are making a HUGE mistake especially on the internet. They are simply promoting relatively unknown news sites into prominence. People will not forget. Probably FOX news will come out a winner

December 3, 2009 12:59 pm

jim (12:24:38) :
Smokey (12:41:36) :
The scary part in this finding is when the Professor says:
“They observed an 11,500 year cycle of intense monsoon precipitation.
In the dry period between 12,800 and 11,500 years ago, Kilimanjaro was ice-free.
At the end of this period, a dramatic climate change from very dry to very wet took place — driven by changes in solar radiation — resulting in the creation of an icecap. At the moment, this part of Africa seems to be at the end of a similar dry period, resulting in the disappearance of the famous icecap.”
This is another indicator that it’s really going to be cold some day soon… but year round this time!

December 3, 2009 1:03 pm

Al cancelled because he didn’t want the event to get snowed out.

December 3, 2009 1:03 pm

You guys crack me up. I love this web site. Keep them coming.

December 3, 2009 1:03 pm

checkout CNN news UK sky channel 506 !

December 3, 2009 1:04 pm

Check this out from http://www.eastangliaemails.com/emails.php?eid=498&filename=1109021312.txt
Jones again hiding data and encouraging others to do so.
From: Phil Jones
To: mann@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Date: Mon Feb 21 16:28:32 2005
Cc: “raymond s. bradley” , “Malcolm Hughes”
Mike, Ray and Malcolm,
The skeptics seem to be building up a head of steam here ! Maybe we can use
this to our advantage to get the series updated !
Odd idea to update the proxies with satellite estimates of the lower troposphere
rather than surface data !. Odder still that they don’t realise that Moberg et al used the
Jones and Moberg updated series !
Francis Zwiers is till onside. He said that PC1s produce hockey sticks. He stressed
that the late 20th century is the warmest of the millennium, but Regaldo didn’t bother
with that. Also ignored Francis’ comment about all the other series looking similar
to MBH.
The IPCC comes in for a lot of stick.
Leave it to you to delete as appropriate !
PS I’m getting hassled by a couple of people to release the CRU station temperature data.
Don’t any of you three tell anybody that the UK has a Freedom of Information Act !

December 3, 2009 1:04 pm

So Boxer is doubling down.
How dumb. How predictable.
As if democrats have ever had any problem with illegally leaked stuff before.
Ignore the leaked data, but chase the phantoms.
I think it is time for another nice leak….from GISS or U Penn, let’s say.

December 3, 2009 1:07 pm

Ok, someone fill me in.
What happened to Al Gore in Chicago that spooked him?

DJ Meredith
December 3, 2009 1:12 pm

I think Al Gore just threw Michael Mann under the bus…..

December 3, 2009 1:12 pm

So, not many speculations on why he cancelled. Let me: either he’s going to spend all of his time lobbying, or he’s a little worried about having to field questions from the audience. An audience that might not be quite so sympathetic post-climategate.

December 3, 2009 1:12 pm

So let’s see – if your pro-AGW, its hide the decline, but if your Google, its hide the increase. If its Al Gore, you just hide…
Lot’s of hiding going on !

Tom Richard
December 3, 2009 1:14 pm

The story is in the Wash. Times, not the post. Just an FYI. 😉

Ed Scott
December 3, 2009 1:14 pm

A new scientific method called Close Enough.
Climategate: Science Is Dying
Science is on the credibility bubble.
Surely there must have been serious men and women in the hard sciences who at some point worried that their colleagues in the global warming movement were putting at risk the credibility of everyone in science. The nature of that risk has been twofold: First, that the claims of the climate scientists might buckle beneath the weight of their breathtaking complexity. Second, that the crudeness of modern politics, once in motion, would trample the traditions and culture of science to achieve its own policy goals. With the scandal at the East Anglia Climate Research Unit, both have happened at once.
I don’t think most scientists appreciate what has hit them. This isn’t only about the credibility of global warming. For years, global warming and its advocates have been the public face of hard science. Most people could not name three other subjects they would associate with the work of serious scientists. This was it. The public was told repeatedly that something called “the scientific community” had affirmed the science beneath this inquiry. A Nobel Prize was bestowed (on a politician).
Global warming enlisted the collective reputation of science. Because “science” said so, all the world was about to undertake a vast reordering of human behavior at almost unimaginable financial cost. Not every day does the work of scientists lead to galactic events simply called Kyoto or Copenhagen. At least not since the Manhattan Project.
What is happening at East Anglia is an epochal event. As the hard sciences—physics, biology, chemistry, electrical engineering—came to dominate intellectual life in the last century, some academics in the humanities devised the theory of postmodernism, which liberated them from their colleagues in the sciences. Postmodernism, a self-consciously “unprovable” theory, replaced formal structures with subjectivity. With the revelations of East Anglia, this slippery and variable intellectual world has crossed into the hard sciences.

Peter Melia
December 3, 2009 1:20 pm

For a really good paper upon the giving the scientific argument against AGM, visit
It is by Gerhard Gerlich & Ralf D Tscheuscner
Perhaps the Gore finally got around to reading this paper?

December 3, 2009 1:21 pm

Nelson (11:45:44) :
Is it just me or is Big Al looking more and more like the stereotypical villain in a James Bond movie? Carbonfinger perhaps?
That there’s funny, I don’t care who you are.
Hopefully, it will catch on.

December 3, 2009 1:25 pm

Marc Antony: Cry ‘Havoc,’ and let slip the dogs of war!
– From Julius Caesar by William Shakespeare
Al is about to “Gore’d” by the very fools he has fleeced.

December 3, 2009 1:26 pm

I just love these google results
Results 1 – 10 of about 28,500,000 for climategate. (0.09 seconds)
Results 1 – 10 of about 10,500,000 for al gore. (0.24 seconds)
Gore’s result took longer, more carbon expended??

December 3, 2009 1:27 pm


December 3, 2009 1:32 pm

We got the NWO control freak Globalists by the balls and the many hands clinching those balls reach into many avenues of complicit criminal activity from the news networks to the public officials also accomplices to the fraud. WE will continue clinching those balls and squeeze firmly till they all burst.

December 3, 2009 1:32 pm

L Nettles (12:53:05) :

Did Steve M. buy a ticket?

Too funny 😀

A Jason
December 3, 2009 1:33 pm

LOL, this is funny, Al Gore on Watt’s Up With That TV Show.
–> http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/clips/what-up-with-that/1178425/

L . Gardy LaRoche
December 3, 2009 1:34 pm

Academy voters Roger L. Simon and Lionel Chetwynd call on the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences to rescind Al Gore’s award.

December 3, 2009 1:35 pm

Why are we not going after this crook harder than we are. Lots of fun poking and smear but who is putting his ass on the burner! Is he being investigated! Here is a tasty morsel for ya.

L . Gardy LaRoche
December 3, 2009 1:37 pm
David S
December 3, 2009 1:41 pm

It would be more fun to stick my hand in the garbage disposal and that’s free.

Ed Scott
December 3, 2009 1:44 pm

The cover of the November issue of the Costco Connection featured a picture of the much sought after, bulbous Algore, suitable for framing.
Inside the covers, three pages were devoted to Algore’s climate science.
This issue of the Costco Connection evoked an email-to-the-editor response.
One email suggested a contrarian response by a skeptic such as Dr. Fred Singer.
The editor complied with an interview with Dr. Singer on the subject of climate for the December issue of the Costco Connection. Dr. Singer’s interview covered the bottom two fifths of one page. This seems at first, unfair. However, Dr. Singer easily refuted Algore’s propaganda and got a plug in for http://www.nipccreport.org.

December 3, 2009 1:46 pm
Evan Jones
December 3, 2009 1:47 pm

Please, folks, no more Hitler-in-the-bunker videos!
Singing Hitlers, dancing Hitlers, juggling Hitlers. I’m all Hitlered out.
All future Hitlers will be consigned to the dustbin of the delete barrel.

December 3, 2009 1:49 pm

Hey Anthony,
You get access to Copenhagen and blog while you are there and I will gladly kick in a donation to help with the cause. Then we are sure to get the truth. What are the chances?

December 3, 2009 1:49 pm

Tenuc (11:44:56) :

I would willingly pay £10,000 if when I met Al Gore, they would let me punch him on the nose.


December 3, 2009 1:50 pm

Have leading climate scientists been manipulating data, lying and deleting emails to strengthen the case for global warming? Sceptic Christopher Monkton and campaigner Phil Thornhill debate.
BBC Radio debate last night.
Starts at 7:41, probably only available for UK listeners.
The cracks are definitely showing if this sort of debate is now being “allowed” on the BBC.

Ed Scott
December 3, 2009 1:55 pm

elmer (13:27:47)

Craig Moore
December 3, 2009 1:57 pm

No HItlers? Does that mean singing, dancing, juggling, stiff-arm saluting, goose-stepping, doom-saying ManBearPigs are out as well?
[REPLY – Manbearpig is on the guest list. Hitler is out. I was beginning to get a twitch in my right shoulder. ~ Evan]

December 3, 2009 1:58 pm

The Danish Tourism Commission may offer attendees the option of either a refund or paying an additional 5,999 kroners, plus value added tax for Al Gore’s absence. Those who choose the latter option will now get a full four course lunch, since the DTC no longer has to feed Big Al.

Jerry Campbell
December 3, 2009 2:09 pm

Some of the most cogent, biting, and humorous comments I’ve read lately. I haven’t laughed so much in a long time. Keep up the good work everyone.

Phil M.
December 3, 2009 2:19 pm

RE: Phil M.
Maybe he does not like the look of the google trends.
Some people are searching for “climate gate”, two words.
Damn Andrew, you are right. It’s WORSE THAN I THOUGHT!

December 3, 2009 2:20 pm

x (13:07:07) : “Ok, someone fill me in. What happened to Al Gore in Chicago that spooked him?”
I’m not sure. It seems to be unsubstantiated, but there’s a rumor that he made an appearance at a book signing and not one but several people failed to give him an Obama bow and kiss his feet.

December 3, 2009 2:30 pm

AC (10:28:47) : “Al looks like the Devil himself in that picture. It’s really eerie.”
Dang! You’re right, AC. I thought the same thing. Time for a Photoshop™ version with horns and a tail.

Craig Moore
December 3, 2009 2:33 pm

[REPLY – Manbearpig is on the guest list. Hitler is out. I was beginning to get a twitch in my right shoulder. ~ Evan]

Ahhhh! Dr. Strange Glove syndrome.
What General Jack D. ManBearPig should have said about Copenhagen:
“Your [denier] has no regard for human life, not even of his own. For this reason men, I want to impress upon you the need for extreme watchfulness. The enemy may come individually, or in strength. He may even appear in the form of our own troops. But however we must stop him. We must not allow him to gain entrance to this [conference]. Now, I’m going to give you THREE SIMPLE rules: First, trust NO one, whatever his uniform or rank, unless he is known to you personally; Second, anyone or anything that approaches within 200 yards of the perimeter is to be FIRED UPON; Third, if in doubt, shoot first then ask questions later. I would sooner accept a few casualties through accidents rather losing the entire [conference] and its personnel through carelessness. Any variation of these rules must come from me personally. Now, men, in conclusion, I would like to say that, in the two years it has been my privilege to be your commanding manbearpig, I have always expected the best from you, and you have never given me anything less than that. Today, the [world] is counting on us. We’re not going to let them down. Good luck to you all. “

Make Them Pay
December 3, 2009 2:37 pm

Bwahahahaha !
[snip – Sorry, but that encouragement is explicit grounds for nonpayment. So I can’t let that stand. (Not that I don’t sympathize with the sentiment.) ~ Evan]

December 3, 2009 2:41 pm

Do you think if we sent a petition to Al Gore, along with our checks of course, he might relent and deign to speak to us?
As an added incentive we could provide him with a one horse open sleigh.

December 3, 2009 2:42 pm

A reader at Washington Times knows why he had to cancel:
“Unfortunately it is due to a family illness. Mental illness. His.”

December 3, 2009 2:42 pm

I think the MSM should be investigated and particularly Associated Press. AP also needs to be looked at in terms of anti-trust legislation.

Power Grab
December 3, 2009 2:43 pm

There are reports that a Chicago group called We Are Change showed up at the book signing to protest and heckle. The first report I read said Gore ran from the event and he car was chased.
Not all reports read that way, though.

December 3, 2009 2:45 pm

Anthony, we should be voting for WUWT not only as the top science blog for 2009, but as the top comedy blog. Your pictures are “deadly” (The Evil? Satan?) and you invite your your witty readers to make hay while the sun do shine. I have (almost) never laughed so hard. Special notice goes to elmer’s contribution — the “The Twelve Days of Global Warming” (3:27:47) – by Minnesotans 4 Global Warming
Evanmjones (13:37:03), so you’re the one who sets the agenda for our laughs. Sorry that you have the weeding job — but you enable a bountiful harvest. This is a class act!
Thanks a bunch.
(Just because I am laughing MAO today doesn’t mean I am not ready for agressive law suits, investigations, and jail time for the fraudsters tomorrow.)

December 3, 2009 2:47 pm

I swear to you, everytime I see Al Gore, he looks more and more like the Wizard of Oz. And, it seems that like in the Wizards case, the curtain has been pulled aside for Mr. Gore also. Liberals have an amazing record, however, in getting people to believe in the stupidest most damaging things to their own well being–multiculturalism that isn’t, absurd forced programs consisting of every stupidity conceivable. Mass immigration to Western nations, making citizens and long time taxpayers of those nations second class citizens by giving preferences of every kind to the new “immigrants”,etc. All of this only happens in Western Nations for some reason. It is a testimony to the stupidity of some people that they would spend, in the economy such as it today is, one thousand-two hundred dollars!!!!! to listen to Gore.

December 3, 2009 2:47 pm

JimB In Canada: “I see that picture and always think:
“No Mr Bond …. I expect you to die…”
I see that picture and think of the “Grinch Who Stole Christmas”

December 3, 2009 2:50 pm

What happened to alGore in Chicago?

And for the record, I don’t even remotely agree with this stuff. It’s childish and looks bad for whatever side uses it. Even though the left seem to love this stuff. I’m actually more impressed with the woman yelling “You’re an idiot” to the “protester” than with the “protester”.
The right is just going to have to figure out how to protest properly.
I did enjoy the way they broke traffic laws leaving, though. And I expect more of that sort of rapid egress in future.

December 3, 2009 2:50 pm

Someone once said “I’d rather be gored by a boar than bored by a Gore”…
(I think William F. Buckley about Gore Vidal, but somehow apropos anyway…).
Would that other sites were as civil, informative, and interesting as this one.
Kudos to Anthony, the moderators, and all the contributors to this site,
and the WUWT community – the REAL real climate, as it were…
It seems the CRU folks (et al) have forgotten that a primary tenet of science
is skepticism, in that a theory is accepted until shown to be wrong, at which
point the new theory is accepted, although subjected to further scrutiny
then replaced when a better model comes along, etc.
Open review of data, processes (e.g. programs, models, etc.) facilitates
further analyses and progress, something which appears to have been
impeded by the Climate Gate being closed (as it were….sorry about the pun).
Here’s hoping that not just the MSM, but the voting public in general
sees the truth here, and digs deeper to see ‘Watts Up with That’.
All our (AGW-siphoned) money could well be used doing real science
and other useful things…..

Kevin Kilty
December 3, 2009 2:52 pm

Oooh. Does Gore really look as sinister as that assinine portrait, or is someone photoshopping this? Creepy.

Sam the Skeptic
December 3, 2009 2:54 pm

BBC Radio 4’s PM news programme has obviously been doing a five-minute spot each evening leading up to Copenhagen.
Tonight’s speaker was Benny Peiser so at least one channel is providing a little bit of balance. Sorry I don’t have a link.

December 3, 2009 2:57 pm

How blind and stupid can they be.
“The e-mails do nothing to undermine the very strong scientific consensus … that tells us the earth is warming, that warming is largely a result of human activity,” said another government scientist Jane Lubchenco.

Gail Combs
December 3, 2009 3:06 pm

Michael (10:55:37) :Said
…FCC rules have been violated by not reporting on the Climategate scandal and their crime is obvious. The public must demand an investigation of the MSM.
It was done back in 1917 and guess who runs the mass media
In the Congressional Record for 1917, it is reported that “…the J.P. Morgan [banking] interests…. and their subsidiary organizations got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world and employed them to select the most influential newspapers in the United States and sufficient number of them to control generally the policy of the daily press of the US…. They found it was only necessary to purchase the control of 25 of the greatest papers. …an editor was furnished for each paper to properly supervise and edit information….” http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/006/conspiracy1.htm
And the Connection
According to Richard Folland advisor to JP Morgan banking interests:
“The financial sector has a major stake in Copenhagen. Decisions there will affect investment and business. At J. P. Morgan, we are significant participants in the carbon market as traders, project developers and in voluntary carbon offsetting.Our hope for Copenhagen is that we get clarity, to set out the long-term policy framework that investment needs…. Our fear is that an inability to reach an agreement puts these decisions on hold, thus delaying investment…”. http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20427366.800-great-and-good-share-hopes-and-fears-for-copenhagen.html

December 3, 2009 3:07 pm

evanmjones (11:50:18) :
Is there any reason given for why he canceled?

Reasons? We don’t give no steenkin reasons!

December 3, 2009 3:12 pm

jorgekafkazar (14:20:02) :
x (13:07:07) : “Ok, someone fill me in. What happened to Al Gore in Chicago that spooked him?”
I’m not sure. It seems to be unsubstantiated, but there’s a rumor that he made an appearance at a book signing and not one but several people failed to give him an Obama bow and kiss his feet.

I saw the video they made on youtube

December 3, 2009 3:16 pm

If everyone who believes in man-made global warming would just have the courtesy to kill themselves, we could reduce the impact of humans on the climate by half. If they really believe and if they think we should all make sacrifices to save the planet, why don’t they make the ultimate sacrifice?
I promise that, after they are gone, we will raise monuments in their honor to thank them for their sacrifice…

December 3, 2009 3:23 pm

“… in that a theory is accepted until shown to be wrong, at which
point the new theory is accepted…”
It is not required to propose a new theory to replace the old one. Simply disproving the existing one is sufficient to have it discarded.
That is part of the scientific method.
The AGW theory predicts that and increase in CO2 causes an increase in global temperature.
CO2 is higher now then it was in 1990.
Average global temperature is the same as it was in 1990.
The prediction made by the theory is wrong therefore the AGW theory must be discarded.

December 3, 2009 3:25 pm

Justin, that BBC interview was like the Argument Sketch. If that is the state of debate in the UK, God help you all.
Also, as a Canadian, I don’t know what are the differences between the BBC stations? Why 4 or 5 of them?

Gail Combs
December 3, 2009 3:27 pm

mrpkw (11:20:10) :
Maybe a new buffet was opening that weekend near his home !!
I agree !! Like rats from a sinking ship !!

Naw. I think he is worried his whole state is turning against him and you remember what they did to that Federal census taker a couple months ago. The people of Tennessee are NOT a people I would want as enemies.
LETTER from Tennessee General Assembly to ALL other State Legislatures:
“The following is a letter from Tennessee to the other 49 State Legislatures
We send greetings from the Tennessee General Assembly. On June 23, 2009, House Joint Resolution 108, the State Sovereignty Resolution, was signed by Governor Phil Bredesen. The Resolution created a committee which has as its charge to:
* Communicate the resolution to the legislatures of the several states,
* Assure them that this State continues in the same esteem of their friendship,
* Call for a joint working group between the states to enumerate the abuses of authority by the federal government, and
* Seek repeal of the assumption of powers and the imposed mandates.
It is for those purposes that this letter addresses your honorable body….
There are clear limits to the power of the federal government and clear realms of power for the states. However, the simple and clear expression of purpose, to secure our natural rights, has evolved into the modern expectation that the national government has an obligation to ensure our life, to create our liberty, and fund our pursuit of happiness.
The national government has become a complex system of programs whose purposes lie outside of the responsibilities of the enumerated powers and of securing our natural rights; programs that benefit some while others must pay…..
The role of our American government has been blurred, bent, and breached. The rights endowed to us by our creator must be restored.
To be sure, the People created the federal government to be their agent for certain enumerated purposes only. The Constitutional ratifying structure was created so it would be clear that it was the People, and not the States, that were doing the ratifying.
The Tenth Amendment defines the total scope of federal power as being that which has been delegated by the people to the federal government, and also that which is absolutely necessary to advancing those powers specifically enumerated in the Constitution of the United States. The rest is to be handled by the state governments, or locally, by the people themselves.
The Constitution does not include a congressional power to override state laws. It does not give the judicial branch unlimited jurisdiction over all matters. It does not provide Congress with the power to legislate over everything. This is verified by the simple fact that attempts to make these principles part of the Constitution were soundly rejected by its signers.
With this in mind, any federal attempt to legislate beyond the Constitutional limits of Congress’ authority is a usurpation of state sovereignty – and unconstitutional.
Governments and political leaders are best held accountable to the will of the people when government is local. The people of a state know what is best for them; authorities, potentially thousands of miles away, governing their lives is opposed to the very notion of freedom.
We invite your state to join with us to form a joint working group between the states to enumerate the abuses of authority by the federal government and to seek repeal of the assumption of powers and the imposed mandates…..”
Okay Boy and Girls, those who are in the USA that is, it is time to kick your State Legislatures in the rumpus and get those State Sovereignty Resolutions passed. There is a turf war building and we need to take advantage of it. If we can not kill Cap and Trade at Copenhagen, if we can’t kill it in the US Senate, we CAN kill it on a state level state by state just as Real ID was killed .

December 3, 2009 3:28 pm

Has anyone ever noticed that the leftists both in the U.S. Europe, and other Western Nations, always bitch about the environment, and in many ways rightly so, but are utterly against population control or mass immigration to the West. Yet, yet, they always tell us they are for quality of life issues. Yeah, sure.

December 3, 2009 3:32 pm

That’s a nice picture of Gore at the top, he looks like the antichrist!!
“Go on, give me your money … you know you want to”.

Make Them Pay
December 3, 2009 3:35 pm

See Lord Nigel Lawson’s new think tank website.
The list of Trustees and scientific advisors is
most impressive, and head and shoulders above
anything that Gore and Mann could muster.
Welcome to The Global Warming Policy Foundation

Make Them Pay
December 3, 2009 3:39 pm

Sir Muir Russell, chairman of the Judicial Appointments Board for Scotland, who has no previous links with the climate science community, will lead the investigation into allegations that leading academics at the University of East Anglia mainipulated data on global warming.

Danny V (Canada)
December 3, 2009 3:40 pm

Climategate made it as a 1st news story on the local CTV news (mainstream) channel on the 6:00PM news.
All I said was WOW!!
I highly doubt I had an impact but here is the e-mail I sent them earlier this week.
Climategate – Why no CTV News coverage?
Hello –
There is no end of coverage on Common Wealth climate change conference, bears eating cubs due to lack of Arctic ice and upcoming Copenhagen conference on CTV news.
However, there is just the sound of crickets when it comes to Climategate CTV news coverage.
Amazingly, Tiger Wood’s recent issues seem to be more important to CTV News than Climategate.
Why is there NO coverage on CTV news on the junk, fraudulent science that forms the basis for climate change treaties dubbed “Climategate”?
Surely CTV news must be interested in covering fraud and government waste in the trillions of dollars, or am off base?
“Climategate” has surpassed “Climate warming” on Google searches – CTV risks becoming irrelevant if it continues to ignore mainstream stories.
Please use this link – http://www.google.com and type in “Climategate” for more information or use this link for in depth coverage.
Thank you,

December 3, 2009 3:40 pm

I have to say one thing, it’s refreshing to know, that some of todays youth are going to give these bums, these ex-politicians that sell this nation out on a daily basis by becoming lobbyists for every conceivable thing that hurts Americans, whether they are lobbyists of China, or for Saudi Arabia. Thank God, I thought the youth was all brainwashed and lost. Those in the universities that are inundated with leftists who brainwash these kids, are not working hard enough, I guess.

Make Them Pay
December 3, 2009 3:41 pm

E-mails hacked from a climate research institute suggest climate change does not have a human cause, according to Saudi Arabia’s lead climate negotiator.
Mohammad Al-Sabban told BBC News

John M
December 3, 2009 3:51 pm

Boy, you have to hand it to the guy, he can sure draw a crowd…
…on this blog!

Make Them Pay
December 3, 2009 3:58 pm

Copenhagen climate change talks must fail, says top scientist
World’s leading climate change expert says summit talks so flawed
that a deal would be a disaster. James Hansen told Britain’s Guardian newspaper he believed that any agreement that might emerge from the upcoming conference would be deeply flawed.

D. King
December 3, 2009 3:59 pm

…more than 3,000 Danes have purchased a ticket.
They will not be functional without programming.

james griffin
December 3, 2009 4:00 pm

Our Uk Foreign Secretary “Miliband the Deluded”…he of the “science is settled” is still on the bridge of the good ship Global Warming with this rousing speech to rally the troops….today he has attacked former ConservativeTory Chancellor and leading sceptic Lord Lawson with the words….
“I think it is profoundly irresponsible for people who have held, in the case of Nigel Lawson, positions of high office, to be doing what they are doing,”
Apparently he is blissfully unaware that troops and rats alike are leaving the sinking ship……
Captain, Captain….we’ve been hit by an iceberg!!!!!!

Make Them Pay
December 3, 2009 4:05 pm

Pot Calls Kettle Black
Phil Jones accused of making error of judgment
by colleague Michael Mann on BBC Radio Show.

December 3, 2009 4:10 pm

This is the time when I have to ask a simple question.
What is the way an individual can effect change through this morass?
The media in the UK is limp in the face of this monumental revelation of what we so acutely felt to be true. We will not get this chance again.

December 3, 2009 4:11 pm

Shout Out to Al Gore,Don’t forget to turn out the lights behind you after you are put before a Congressional Hearing on Climate Change ( GATE ) ! You TRANZI MO FO !

John Silver
December 3, 2009 4:13 pm

Power Grab (14:43:44) :
“There are reports that a Chicago group called We Are Change showed up at the book signing to protest and heckle. The first report I read said Gore ran from the event and he car was chased.
Not all reports read that way, though.”


December 3, 2009 4:32 pm

Perhaps Al Gore is going to swim to Copenhagen to prove his credentials, he just underestimated how long it would take.

Malaga View
December 3, 2009 4:37 pm

elmer (13:27:47) :
The 12 Days of Global Warming

Thank you Elmer…
Thank you for Two Below Honey… I just love it!!!!
Thank you for The Minnesotans For Global Warming Song…
Thank you M4GW for making me laugh in the face of insanity…
Keep up the good work and KEEP WARM 🙂

December 3, 2009 4:51 pm

Peter Melia (13:20:51) :
For a really good paper upon the giving the scientific argument against AGW, visit
It is by Gerhard Gerlich & Ralf D Tscheuscner
Falsifi cation Of
The Atmospheric CO2 Greenhouse E ffects
Within The Frame Of Physics
“The authors express their hope that in the schools around the world the fundamentals of
physics will be taught correctly and not by using award-winning \Al Gore” movies shocking
every straight physicist by confusing absorption/emission with re
ection, by confusing the tropopause with the ionosphere, and by confusing microwaves with shortwaves”.
If anyone else read this with more grasp than I, speak up. It basically refutes the entire “greenhouse planet concept” as entirely ungrounded in physics. Took me almost all day, part of the conclusion I posted above.

Leon Brozyna
December 3, 2009 5:10 pm

To Al Gore:
I don’t care if you do or do not go to Copenhagen, but wherever you do go, please do not visit anywhere near Buffalo until after Lake Erie freezes over for the winter!
Monday’s lake-effect snow advisory of 3-6 inches of global warming resulted in an official 5.8″ which has since melted away in 50°F temps and plenty of rain.
Now we are facing a lake-effect snow warning of 5-10 inches of global warming starting tomorrow morning. And most times, such heavy wet global warming is hard to shovel – it’s heavy!
So, Mr. Gore, why don’t you take some time out from your busy travel schedule and spend a couple months far from us who have to shovel all your global warming. Try Tahiti and spare us any more Gore Effects.

Gail Combs
December 3, 2009 5:29 pm

Kevin (11:47:37) :Said
“You guys really hurt your credibility when you go on about Gore — almost as bad as Climate Progress….
First Gore is not a scientist. He is a politician and a traitor to boot. No I am serious he is a traitor.
A Traitor: a person who is guilty of treason or treachery, in betraying friends, country, a cause or trust; a member of a clandestine subversive organization who tries to help a potential invader.
Vice President Al Gore swore this oath.
“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.”
No wher in the Constitution does it say the VP has the authority to hand control of the US government over to a foreign organization or power. Yet he is actively working to undermine US sovereignty and promote “Global Governance”
The really interesting bit is how rank and file Political Activists are being controlled. It started with The ‘Innocents’ Clubs’: http://www.heretical.com/miscella/munzen.html
“…During the 1920’s and most of the 1930’s Münzenberg played a leading role in the Comintern, Lenin’s front for world-wide co-ordination of the left under Russian control. Under Münzenberg’s direction, hundreds of groups, committees and publications cynically used and manipulated the devout radicals of the West….Most of this army of workers in what Münzenberg called ‘Innocents’ Clubs’ had no idea they were working for Stalin. They were led to believe that they were advancing the cause of a sort of socialist humanism. The descendents of the ‘Innocents’ Clubs’ are still hard at work in our universities and colleges. Every year a new cohort of impressionable students join groups like the Anti-Nazi League believing them to be benign opponents of oppression…”
Maurice Strong, Father of Global Warming, added a new twist to the ‘Innocents’ Clubs’. Strong’s early work with YMCA international “…may have been the genesis of Strong’s realization that NGOs (non-government organizations) provide an excellent way to use NGOs to couple the money from philanthropists and business with the objectives of government.” http://sovereignty.net/p/sd/strong.html
Very few of even the larger international NGOs are operationally democratic, in the sense that members elect officers or direct policy on particular issues,” notes Peter Spiro. “Arguably it is more often money than membership that determines influence, and money more often represents the support of centralized elites, such as major foundations, than of the grass roots.” The CGG has benefited substantially from the largesse of the MacArthur, Carnegie, and Ford Foundations. http://www.afn.org/~govern/strong.html
President Clinton took the NGOs even further. By Presidential Executive Order the USA was divided into ten regions. These regions are governed by an unholy mix of unelected government bureaucrats and NGOs. The regions were set up by President Nixon but implementing “regional governance concept began in earnest with the Clinton-Gore administration. “On the heels of the President’s Council on Sustainable Development , came the President’s Community Empowerment Board, chaired by Vice President Al Gore,” http://www.rense.com/general63/ree.htm These quasi-governmental regional authorities are slowly transforming the US from representative government to government by United Nations sponsored and directed NGOs and appointed bureaucrats.
Al Gore is actively treading a course of treason. Copenhagen is just another step towards his goal of overthrowing the government of the USA and replacing it with the United Nations.

Make Them Pay
December 3, 2009 5:38 pm

Imagined Drought Vs Real Satellite Image
See The Propaganda …..
Amazon Forest in danger says Telegraph,
and shows a photo from 2005 of some dried
up puddle which they claim is the Curuai Lake,
in Para Brazil.
Then when we look at a satellite image from
Google, which is dated 2009, of the same
Curuai Lake, we see that it is full of water.
Who are we to believe, the propagandists
or our very own eyes, and satellite imagery ?

December 3, 2009 6:15 pm

Thank you very, very much for this humorous pause.
I truly hope the planned Copenhagen carbon tax treaty, the corner stone NWO administation tax, will not now occur.
It was the privately owned international banking cartel led by Rothschild via the World Bank and IMF who were funding the global warming research because they saw a way to get the world’s sheep to accept a new world administrative tax by cloaking it as a save the earth measure.
Neither Gore or the NWO care a fig about the planet – they only care about setting up a communist one world government system with 4% corporate/gov’t elite and 96% serfs.

December 3, 2009 6:22 pm

Just a few years back A.G. was signing books for free in Costco.
CNN presented a “debate” on warming or no warming today, but the moderator obnoxiously inserted himself so often and so loudly little, if anything, could be gleaned about the science of AGW vrs. the myth.
Since global warming coincidentally is linked with the show about nothing, probably all parties had a heads up. Al is Occidental, don’t forget..

December 3, 2009 6:30 pm

“Al looks like the Devil himself in that picture. It’s really eerie.”
You know who he *really* looks like — the Jack character in “The Shining” ! ! !

Gail Combs
December 3, 2009 6:30 pm

Darn, I mentioned on an earlier thread. ” UAH global temperature anomaly for November, up again “ That I would put up with snow here in sunny North Carolina if Copenhagen and Washington DC got plastered. Well Mother Nature Has a sense of humor – or was it the GORE EFFECT? – They are now predicting snow for Saturday. Bob Tisdale what was that you said about it being warmer?? I have seen snow here 3X in 15 years!
Sigh, I guess I had better get started draining water hoses on all fourteen stock tanks. At least DC is going to get snow too. Hope it is a blizzard and socks in the DC airports. I wonder if Mother Nature will keep Obama from flying to Copenhagen? Snigger

Harold Blue Tooth (Viking not phone)
December 3, 2009 6:41 pm

He went to Houston instead?
“But Houston only sees snow, on average, about every four years. And never this early in the season: Friday’s, if it comes, would be the earliest snowfall ever in Houston….”

Harold Blue Tooth (Viking not phone)
December 3, 2009 6:57 pm

x (13:07:07) :
Ok, someone fill me in.
What happened to Al Gore in Chicago that spooked him?
Nothing. It was an exaggerated story.

Harold Blue Tooth (Viking not phone)
December 3, 2009 7:06 pm

were the emails hacked??
what a let down for some if it turns out the were legally, or, not illegally, let out

December 3, 2009 7:28 pm

Why all this piling on poor Mr Gore. He gave you the Internet, single-handedly eradicated the half-man, half-bear, half-pig problem threat and what thanks does he get? Nada, zilch!
I’m certain that everyone who’d paid to touch flesh with the Great Saviour in CarbonHagen knows that his cancellation was always a possibility. Super Heroes have no choice but to react immediately when good old Gaia is imperilled.
Folks, there’s thirsty old camels in the Sahara needing hydrated, Himalayan Glaciers needing pushed back into shape and Maldivian Parliaments needing rescued!
Give him a break, as if that’s not enough he’s got to prove to an ever-increasingly suspicious population that the BBC is still as strictly neutral and non-propagandist as it always has been.
Gawd bless you Mr Gore.

December 3, 2009 7:41 pm

Michael (10:55:37) :
CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, and others need to be investigated and indicted as accomplices in the Climategate fraud, and have their FCC licenses revoked

Individual broadcast stations (actual radio frequency over-the-air radio energy emanating facilities) are licensed here in the U.S., not networks.
An example: Alex Jones works like a network too, for he owns _no_ broadcasting facilities (shortwave or otherwise) but still gets his (populist) message out (once upon a time, where he got his start, he used to rant and rave only on Austin Public Cable Access TV channels but that is a story for another time).
Unlike the networks, however, he pays his shortwave stations a fee to broadcast his ‘program’ (via Genesis et al).

Steve S.
December 3, 2009 7:43 pm

Gore won

December 3, 2009 7:56 pm

Gail Combs (15:06:38) :

It was done back in 1917 and guess who runs the mass media
In the Congressional Record for 1917, it is reported that “…the J.P. Morgan [banking] interests…. and their subsidiary organizations got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world and employed them to select the most influential newspapers in …

Helloooooooo Gail !!!??
Have you checked the date recently?
Have you noticed WHO is on the ascendency and WHO is on the descendency news-business and circulation wise?
Time to revise those JBS talking points; it’s a new era and new talking points are going to be needed for recruitment to be truly successful …

Pete M.
December 3, 2009 8:19 pm

It is just me or Gore has an evil looking smile on the pic at the beggining of this post? “Mouah ha ha ha haaaa.. I got all you bastards in my net of lies” he seems to be thinking.

Daryl M
December 3, 2009 8:28 pm

I just watched the manbearpig episode for the first time last night. I’m so serial it was the funniest show I’ve watched in a long time.

December 3, 2009 8:58 pm

The Copenhagen Conference will take a big hit on credibility but many people are easily deceived. Al Gore has his fans who will believe what he says instead of thinking for themselves. Gore is also a big polluter of the environment and exaggerates global warming causes. But didn’t he invent the internet?

Pete M
December 3, 2009 9:12 pm

Here is an interesting link to an iceagenow article:
Maybe one day we will live in a world where people with higher knowledge no longer prey on the less educated people of our society, and no longer scheme to invent new ways to transfer these poor people’s wealth into their pockets.
We might even hope to live in an utopian world where the word “fraud” no longer has usage or meaning! Just imagine. However, I see two possibilities for this happening.
One: We end up really living in a world where there are no more scheming and defrauding individuals, or two: We end up living in a world where fraud is so widespread, the usage of the word fraud becomes redundant, because practically every law and institution and tax is tainted with it.
I still hope for option one: No more scheming and defrauding individuals.
I also believe in Santa Claus.

December 3, 2009 9:13 pm

Oh man, I can’t wait til the Southpark guys get a hold of this [snip]!!!!

Gene Nemetz
December 3, 2009 9:50 pm

This is probably the reason he canceled:
Thursday, December 3, 2009
New Rasmussen Poll
Fifty-nine percent (59%) of Americans say it’s at least somewhat likely that some scientists have falsified research data to support their own theories and beliefs about global warming.

David A. Reyes
December 3, 2009 10:18 pm

On Dave replying to Kevin (11:47:37) :
Dave (12:43:09) :
“I recognize what you are saying, but this is being done in the context of there being a lack of coverage in the media of climategate. I agree I wouldn’t spend too much time on Gore, Obama, etc., but it is relevant in talking about the wider topic of media coverage (or lack thereof).”
Some of us are using the same tactics as those on the extreme left — turning the use of Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals against them. Two in particular apply here.
Rule #5 — “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.”
Rule #12 — “Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.”
There is no arguing that Gore is perhaps the easiest target, as poster-child and waterboy for the AGW movement. His sci-fi comedy “An Inconvenient Truth”, subsequent Oscar and Nobel Peace Prize awards and inexcusable use of “The Science Is Setteled” and “The Debate Is Over” mantras make him particularly vulnerable and are at the heart of the topic at hand –the complete and utter lack of coverage by the MSM. The MSM has been coopted by the extreme left. What better way than to expose them for allowing him unquestioned exposure in the media? The more he is made a fool, the more they look foolish for using that tool?

David A. Reyes
December 3, 2009 10:21 pm

Ivan, lol. Me either.

December 3, 2009 10:34 pm

I don’t have much to add, but I always try to respond to posts with the word “lurch” in them. It just appeals to my inner Zombie.
Thanks for this site, Anthony. I’ve linked to it many a time.
Shambling continues…

December 3, 2009 11:57 pm

“Harold Blue Tooth (Viking not phone) (19:06:05) :
were the emails hacked??
what a let down for some if it turns out the were legally, or, not illegally, let out”
I found this:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/23/t … planation/
There’s an old adage, never assume malice when stupidity or incompetence will explain it.
A short time ago there was a previous leak of CRU data by an insider. In this case, Steve McIntyre acquired station data which he had been requesting for years, but someone inside CRU unofficially made the data available.
In this case, many commentators had various guesses as to the motivation or identity of the disgruntled mole even proposing that perhaps a disgruntled William Connelly was the perpetrator.
Of course it turned out the Phil Jones, director of CRU, himself had inadvertently left the data on an open FTP server.
Many have begun to think that the zip archive FOI2009.zip was prepared internally by CRU in response to Steve McIntyre’s FOI requests, in parallel with attempts to deny the request in case the ability to refuse was lost. There are many reasons to think this is valid and it is consistent with either of the two theories at the beginning of this post. Steve McIntyre’s FOI appeal was denied on November 13th and the last of the emails in the archive is from November 12th.
It would take a hacker massive amounts of work to parse through decades of emails and files but stealing or acquiring a single file is a distinct possibility and does not require massive conspiracy. The same constraints of time and effort would apply to any internal whistle blower. However, an ongoing process of internally collating this information for an FOI response is entirely consistent with what we find in the file.
In the past I have worked at organizations where the computer network grew organically in a disorganized fashion over time. Security policies often fail as users take advantage of shortcuts to simplify their day to day activities. One of these shortcuts is to share files using an FTP server. Casual shortcuts in these instances may lead to gaping security holes. This is not necessarily intentional, but a consequence of human nature to take a shortcut here and there. This casual internal sharing can also lead to unintentional sharing of files with the rest of the Internet as noted in the Phil Jones, CRU mole, example above. Often the FTP server for an organization may also be the organization’s external web server as the two functions are often combined on the same CPU or hardware box. When this occurs, if the organization does not lock down their network thoroughly, the security breaches which could happen by accident are far more likely to occur.
Since Friday November 20th a few users noticed this interesting notice on the CRU website.
This website is currently being served from the CRU Emergency Webserver.
Some pages may be out of date.
Normal service will be resumed as soon as possible.
Here is a screen grab for posterity.
CRU embergency webserver notice
So as part of the security crackdown at CRU they have taken down their external webserver? Network security professionals in the audience will be spitting up coffee all over their keyboards at this point.
So this is my theory is and this is only my theory:
A few people inside CRU possessed the archive of documents being held in reserve in case the FOI appeal decision was made in favor of Steve McIntyre. They shared it with others by putting it in an FTP directory which was on the same CPU as the external webserver, or even worse, was an on a shared drive somewhere to which the webserver had permissions to access. In other words, if you knew where to look, it was publicly available. Then, along comes our “hackers” who happened to find it, download it, and the rest is history unfolding before our eyes. So much for the cries of sophisticated hacking and victimization noted above.
If I had to bet money, I would guess that David Palmer, Information Policy & Compliance Manager, University of East Anglia, has an even chance of being the guilty party, but it would only be a guess.
To repeat the basic premise of this theory.
There’s an old adage, never assume malice when stupidity or incompetence will explain it.

December 4, 2009 2:20 am

Ray Liotta’s Henry Hill in “Goodfellas”…. when he laments on the good-times coming to an end. Anyone remember that scene?

December 4, 2009 3:11 am

BBC Radio Debate: Well I listen to BBC Radio but have never been a fan of BBC Five Live and that travesty (can I use that word now?) of a debate hasn’t changed my view.
When we hear it discussed on the station for more serious-minded thinkers, Radio 4, then we might be getting somewhere.
I don’t think Phil Thornhill covered himself in glory exactly – he was ranting. Monckton was dignified, as usual, but could hardly get a word in. The “chairman” talked over him and allowed everyone else to talk over him.

December 4, 2009 3:58 am

What exactly is there for eGore to say, other than “Oops? I was wrong about *everything* and made a gajillion dollars off lies and more lies.”?
Wonder what it’s like to become a millionaire off of lies and fabrications that scare good people out of their wits?

December 4, 2009 4:53 am

There was a VERY lively discussion about this , that is – man-made climate change: one big con? – on BBC radio this week. It was the Richard Bacon Show on BBC Radio 5 Live. Pretty fiery stuff.
I think you can still listen to it at http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b007lb08
There’s a list of the shows to which you can listen again. But the facility only lasts a week – so a few days left now

Ron de Haan
December 4, 2009 6:55 am
December 4, 2009 7:01 am

This may come as a consolation:
Prostitutes offer free climate summit sex

December 4, 2009 7:32 am

Gail Combs (17:29:38) — thanks for your reply. You sort of make my point — and I mean no disrespect — but going on about conspiracy theories and such make you folks look like the equivalent of the youngsters who protest trade talks — interesting, yes. Entertaining, yes. But someone to guide policy? No thanks. If I want a valid scientific opinion on anything, I’m not going to believe anyone who’s view of reality on some more basic issues is so disconnected from what I see.
If you wonder why the MSM isn’t covering this, it isn’t because of a conspiracy, it is because your side gets sidetracked by all this other “stuff.” And for the folks doing real science, it would be to your advantage to try to step away from the conspiracy/algore/socialist line of attack as quickly as possible.
Now I’ll take cover and await the shells which are sure to come my way.

December 4, 2009 7:34 am

Big Al knows when to pull the plug on a hoax.People are starting to question this global warming and the well is drying up as far a $$$$.Big Al has made a fortune off people and their fears.Maybe he will come up with a new gig like he has discovered life on mars and he has been in communication with the martians as they want him as their leader.My thoughts go be with them and take Obama,Pelosi and Reid with you..be gone idiots!

Stacy Carr
December 4, 2009 7:36 am

I have been saying since the day they announced this global warming scam that it was just a natural cycle. I said man has no effect on Mother Nature at all. It is like taking a picture of a sandy beach scene, and ask someone to remove one grain of sand from the beach where there are 9999999×10 to the tenth power of 99999 Trillion grains of sand, and then ask if you see any difference to the beach scene. The global warming scam has grown so large by Al Gore who made 10-Million Dollars plus a Nobel Political Prize and no one can ever question this scam theory without being considered one of those people who say the world is round, and not flat.
Now we know for a fact that the global warming is a scam, and I can say I was right it was a scam. However you still have leftist who still plan on forward with the hoax even after they were exposed. Makes you wonder if the entire global warming scam was created for the sole reason to stop capitalism, and mans progress. The same thing happen back in the dark ages where people were arguing saying the world is flat. Maybe Al Gore and all the Obama global leftist communist global warming nuts can jump on a ship, and sail off the edge of their flat planet.

Gail Combs
December 4, 2009 9:02 am

_Jim (19:56:10) :
Helloooooooo Gail !!!??
Have you checked the date recently?
Yes I have. I used that as a quick example instead of several pages showing how corrupted the news media is. For example the actual reason for the Kent State riots in the seventies was never published because Vietnam vets being denied the right to vote would have caused an outrage against the government. That is why the MSM showed film footage of riots at Purdue University nationwide that was faked. There were no riots not even any gatherings of students during that time period. I and close friends have been witnesses to a lot more besides those two incidences. Heck my father in law owns a newspaper and I grew up with the Gannetts.
Money owns the news, money owns the government and money owns the political activists even though they do not know it.
Who the heck is JBS by the way???

December 4, 2009 9:22 am

News for Al and Copenhagen: It’s snowing in Houston, TX today. It’s the earliest snowfall on record, ever.
Just like the Groundhog, Al disappears and hibernates until the first heat wave of spring. Then he pops up like Phil and declares “it’s global warming, again”.

Gail Combs
December 4, 2009 9:27 am

Kevin (07:32:51) :
Gail Combs (17:29:38) — thanks for your reply. You sort of make my point …
If you wonder why the MSM isn’t covering this, it isn’t because of a conspiracy, it is because your side gets sidetracked by all this other “stuff.” And for the folks doing real science, it would be to your advantage to try to step away from the conspiracy/algore/socialist line of attack as quickly as possible.
Now I’ll take cover and await the shells which are sure to come my way.
I would have agree with you a few years ago. However after three years of fighting big money on another issue I lost my rose colored glasses. That happens when the government allows people to die and then covers it up.
see: http://www.marlerblog.com/2009/07/articles/lawyer-oped/one-e-coli-o157h7-outbreak-i-think-i-could-have-prevented/
John Munsell and Derry Brownfield would be really happy to tell you how the UN and WTO are running rough shod over American farmers, poisoning people and the media and US government are covering it up. It is not a “conspiracy” it is documented in spades by a lot of people worldwide. The blasted “Congressional investigations” were so rigged it made bludsh in shame to be an American. AGW is just more of the same.
This is a very well documented history of what is going on in food/farming.
Oh by the way I an a capitalist who hate Corporatism.

December 4, 2009 9:37 am

I believe Gore ducked out of Copenhagen so he could direct his attention to Washington. Or at least, that’s the impression I got from a Times article – Gore puts pressure on Obama.
I don’t often read the Times, but picked one up in the library to pass the time. Apparently they are running a countdown to Copenhagen series. The whole article seems to have been a verbatim report of Gore, interspersed with the phrase “he said.” I didn’t actually read the whole article, but I noticed that each paragraph began with the words “He said.”
The way this paper is fawning over this man is incredible. Even more incredible, is that he even outranks James Hansen. Unbelievable, yet there it was in black and white. The typist (I would not use the term reporter) wrote that James Hansen disagrees with Gore’s support of Copenhagen, but since Hansen isn’t allowed to comment, all the reader gets is Gore’s take on it.
And where was the climategate issue? I found it in the last paragraph. Some skeptics believe, apparently, that the stolen emails suggest the science is wrong. Again, the only person allowed to comment is – you guessed it – Gore. You would not be wrong if you guessed his take was something along the lines that this event is the last gasp of the deniers and their non reality.
So there I saw how far has fallen a once mighty newspaper.

December 4, 2009 2:21 pm

No AGWhore? Maybe his new condo on the rising ocean flood plain in Frisco needs sandbagging already.

December 4, 2009 2:26 pm

Why would anyone trust or take Al Gore seriously? He’s a U.S. politician. Even I can figure that out on my own. And then just listen to him a few minutes, and it becomes more obvious.

December 4, 2009 2:31 pm

see you AL. or should i say AL-coholic

December 4, 2009 3:21 pm

Wow, amazing….

December 4, 2009 3:23 pm

Please forgive this amateurish attempt:
There once was a prophet named Gore
Who converted millions to his Mores
But when the truth revealed his fraud
He aborted his trip abroad
And missed out on free whores

December 4, 2009 3:39 pm

I don’t even rate a [snip]? I’m crushed LOL

December 4, 2009 5:05 pm

Forty-eight hours before Gore whimped out this was published in Chapter 1 of http://www.captainsherlock.com/Olympic-Debt-2/Chapter-1.html
“Soros-Obama-Strong have been retained by OCTOpus to destroy America financially, morally and legislatively. SES was created in 1979 to enable the destruction of America from the ‘inside-out’ by placing corrupt political ‘boobs’ above legitimate authority in agencies across the breadth of our bureaucracies. On a date of my choosing before Pearl Harbor Day 2009 we will crush them as ordained by God Himself. We will go after their weakest link, and their weakest mind first: Al Gore. He will run like a little girl voiding his bladder all the way.
Chapter 2 will be online tomorrow and will explain with great clarity why Obama adjusted his travel plans just 4 hours ago based on this Chapter and the letters included within the Chapter. Those letters communicate clearly to US and Canadians authorities the risk of ‘remotely guided airliners’….you can read the background info by this google search [ boeing uninterruptible autopilot + QRS11 + SMACsonic + McConnell ] You can expect more than just Gore to be ‘felled’. Timber………..

Reed Coray
December 4, 2009 5:50 pm

hunter (13:04:49) :
So Boxer is doubling down.
How dumb. How predictable.

Babs Boxer is one of the few people who can double down and not affect her wager.

December 4, 2009 8:53 pm

I voted for Gore in 2000. I went to Florida for the recount. I’ve read everything I could find on these emails and I am sick, sick, sick. I’ll tell you what I want.
I want the SEC to subpoena Al Gore. I think this is a conspiracy that will make Enron and Madoff look like petty thieves.
I want him to give back his OSCAR.
I want him to give back his Nobel Prize.
I want shareholders to rise up and demand that the boards of Directors of these companies that have gone whole-hog into this AGW nonsense come forward and explain what they based their decisions on.
I want CBS, NBC, ABC, The NYTimes, The LATimes, The Washington Post, The Chicago Tribune, NPR and PBS to report this travesty openly and without bias.
I’m a Democrat, I’ve been lied to and I am mad as hell.

December 4, 2009 9:42 pm

I was watching a YouTube vid where the leader of American Progress used the ‘evidence’ of increased acreage burn by wildfire as a proof of global warming. How about increased acreage burn wildfire caused by arsen? Angeles national forrest this last early fall was a result of arsen and fire cos delayed response. Fires in the Mtns of San Diego in 04 were a result of arsen and accident where the fires started were both remote. Additionally, a number or recent southern CA fires were arsen related. I would imagine that since those trees no longer exist and no longer absorb CO2, then there would be an increase, not the other way around.

December 5, 2009 3:53 am

Discussions on any of the BBC talk stations in the UK are always conducted like that. Shouting and talking over the interviewee are the norm, even on Radio 4, supposedly the flagship, intellectual , heavyweight politics and arts channel. The interviewee barely gets to the first verb in the first sentence of a reply to a question from the interviewer before the interviewer interrupts to criticise and ask another question.
The BBC interviewers always take the view that they can do the job the interviewee is doing far better than the interviewee can and that this is their chance to prove it. The objective is never to ask questions for the interviewee to answer so that the audience can hear and perhaps understand the interviewee’s position or point of view.
Our Canadian friend is right, the standard of science and the debate about it is appalling in the UK.

Bruce Cunningham
December 5, 2009 9:22 am

where are the trolls???

December 7, 2009 3:06 pm

Brian Campbell-sunspots (20:58:38) :
“Gore… . But didn’t he invent the internet?”

I disagree with Gore as much as anyone but accuracy is important. No, not only did he not invent the internet he has never claimed that he did.
This is a VERY tired old straw-man. It renders the views, for my purposes, of anyone who says such, as worthless. People, such as Dr Svelgaard, who have worthwhile things to say say them and don’t indulge in worthless ad hominem.

December 21, 2009 11:06 pm

His Occidental stocks and the Zinc mine on his propery have been taking a hit during the recession. Flying to Copenhagen isn’t cheep you know. Give the poor guy a break. His electric bills are through the roof and just think how much oil it takes to keep his hair slicked back like that. Al Gore is real victim here.
A pound of flesh for your master, there is no way you can even question him.