Add this to the United State’s Senate failure to even address the cap and trade issue, and it appears that carbon trading is losing the financial and political luster it once had. Now Australia’s ETS scheme is delayed in their senate with little hope of revival.
This says it pretty well at ABC News:
Senate kills off emissions trade laws
The Associated Press says:
Australia’s Parliament defeats global warming bill
Australia’s Parliament defeated legislation to set up a greenhouse gas emissions trading system on Wednesday, throwing a central plank of the government’s plans to combat global warming into disarray.
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The 41-33 vote followed a tumultuous debate in which the conservative main opposition party at first agreed to support a version of the government’s bill, then dramatically dumped its leader and switched sides after bitter divisions erupted within the party.
From the Australian:
KEVIN Rudd has lost his bid to deliver an emissions trading scheme in Australia before talks in Copenhagen but won an early election trigger after the Senate formally rejected the laws again today.
Just two Liberal senators broke ranks with a clear mandate among Coalition MPs to delay an ETS and voted with Labor on an emissions trading scheme
Deputy Senate leader Eric Abetz declared: “The CPRS is dead. And no amount of CPR can revive it”
Herald Sun columnist Andrew Bolt writes:
Rudd’s great tax on everything is defeated
How close was that bullet? A mad new tax is voted down, thanks only to Tony Abbott’s one-vote win over Malcolm Turnbull yesterday…
Maybe it had something to do with this:
“We have heard from the Independent Pricing Regulator in NSW just yesterday that this ETS would add 30 per cent to the people of NSW’s power bills …
And as Bolt points out to WUWT a couple of days ago, Climategate figured in as well:
Rudd’s belief that man is heating the world is based almost entirely on the reports of the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
But thousands of emails uncovered in this month’s Climategate scandal show that the scientists most responsible for those reports did not just doctor data, destroy awkward evidence, and censor sceptical scientists.
They also show some of them privately admitting that the world seems not to be heating as they (and Rudd) predicted.
“Where the heck is global warming?” raged Kevin Trenberth, an IPCC lead author, to another Climategate scientist: “The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t.”
Fair Dinkum.
From an e-mail thread this morning:
Ozzie: Local Big Fishwrapper sez “Abbott is ‘a hate figure among several constituencies: feminists, aggressive secularists, climate change believers and many middle-ground progressives’.”
Canuckistanian: … so, he doesn’t have any bad points, then?
View from the Solent (02:34:50) :
…What next? They learn how to play football (soccer) and brew decent beer? It’s all very depressing.
It’s even more depressing when you realize they don’t *export* the best brews…
southerncross (01:32:42) :
She’ll be right now M8 cause this bodgy Tax has been given the arse, it’s enough to make a jelly fish crack a fat.
This should have been a safety snip, I almost choked. There’s too much truth breaking lose to cark it right now.
It was a wonderful moment to be listening to Parliament this morning when this thing was voted down. Brilliant couple of days of debate, too.
” twawki (19:39:27) :
400,000 emails is a grass roots movement”
Mate, I work in government in Canberra, and we get stuff from maybe two or three people who think they have a grass-roots movement on some issue or other, and we (bastards that we are) laugh and write a polite refusal. If we got 400,000 e-mails on a single issue, though, we’d sure as hell be advising the government to seriously consider whatever was being advocated. 400,000 is a serious amount of sentiment.
“Perry Debell (02:28:01) :
There are two senators who are unlikely to be returned at the next election, whenever it’s held!!!”
And not due to party politics.
One of them even said she was displeasing the majority of her constituents, Isn’t she elected to represent THEM and not herself?
No matter, I’m sure that if the next election is run on a platform of Carbon/ETS Tax the Aussie people will send Krudd and his leftie Warmanista’s off to a cave somewhere to sip Latte’s that will be warmed by the flatulence and hot air that is now spewing forth from them .
Those that are unaware or unable to comprehend the anger that the everyday Aussie feels about this issue at the moment are really going to reap the wind when the Climategate issue hits the front page proper in this country. They say that word of mouth is the best form of advertising, everyone I inform of this subject is outraged that the Current Government is taking them for a ride, most have no Idea what the ETS is let alone Know about Climategate.
Once word gets out Via MSM MR Krudd and Penny Wrong is going to find a climate change of a different kind.
I’m getting heat for bringing up a very similar scam? After I asked the community not four days ago not to spin wild political theories and to concentrate on the science?
Sorry, but that’s just not very fair of you, John.
Universal Healthcare is a similar top-down tax scheme…govt. claims it keeps costs down, but all it does is redistribute costs to the entire taxpayer base. Are the Canadians in the room enjoying waiting a year for their MRI or having to go across the border in the US to get medication?
I’m libertarian…NOT a right winger in my own country’s political landscape. The fact that I see major similarities between universal healthcare and cap and trade and want to see both ideas gutted by rational economics does not make me a right wing ideologue.
Gene Nemetz (02:58:10) :
royfomr (02:39:38) :
Perhaps the esteemed Viscount could turn his steely gaze upon this once respected body.
Not so fast, not so fast. Let him gaze with intent on ClimateGate. I want to see him the star witness—star witness after the wistleblowers, that is—testifying in front of the US Senate. No divided attentions if you please.
Sorry mate, you’re right. I withdraw my request. Me bad!
Thanks for your good wishes, fellow skeptics, from here down under. Gene, the air smells new washed! Now we Just gotta keep the campaign going.
Rain and lack of drought will be your reward next summer!
So, you won’t let it die, here in this thread congratulating the Australians.
In short, few Canadians would eliminate their universal healthcare. About 10% would trade for the US system. Statistically, we enjoy better overall health than our friends to the south. Please don’t link the health care program to a need for cap and trade.
Glad to see the Aussies, who also enjoy a good universal healthcare system, thinking clearly on climate. I hope we can do as well.
Home energy audits are a great idea for single family homeowners. However, a sad trend is emerging. The City of Austin enacted the Energy Conservation and Disclosure Ordinance (ECAD) for homeowners who sell their homes. If you own a condominium, a home newer than 10-years old or a manufactured home without a foundation, you are exempt from the ECAD. However, if you own an older home, you must submit the results of an energy audit to Austin Energy, – a utility monopoly, when you sell your home. The mandatory audits range between $100 to $300. Failure to submit an audit is criminalized by a Class C misdemeanor and a $2000 fine.
I hope the Austin city council will strip the criminal provision from the ordinance, because it is the wrong approach.
Thanks,
John Barksdale
http://stoptheaustinecad.blogspot.com
Gene Nemetz (02:42:52) :
So that’s when California would fall into the ocean. (Who would miss it?)
Just give me a heads up. I live in California and I have a lifetime supply of paper bags to put over my head when I’m outside the state.
allen mcmahon (00:42:23) :
“Feel free to paddle across and join us in Australia we will also provide immediate citizenship for all All Blacks…”
That’s not exactly true. We lock them up in detention centres for years, deport them back to where they come from, and then send them a bill for the time they spent in detention. Especially if they are black…
That’s one of the reasons why I’d rather vote “Informal”, then vote for the Liberal.
Christopher Byrne reckons Tony Abbott will back-track on the ETS. No he won’t. I was one of those Liberal voters that emailed him, amongst others. He knows what his voters think of this legislation. The more people realise this is just a GREAT BIG NEW TAX the more will vote Liberal in the next election and kill it for good. Go Tony. Thank god Australia finally has a decent opposition.