Add this to the United State’s Senate failure to even address the cap and trade issue, and it appears that carbon trading is losing the financial and political luster it once had. Now Australia’s ETS scheme is delayed in their senate with little hope of revival.
This says it pretty well at ABC News:
Senate kills off emissions trade laws
The Associated Press says:
Australia’s Parliament defeats global warming bill
Australia’s Parliament defeated legislation to set up a greenhouse gas emissions trading system on Wednesday, throwing a central plank of the government’s plans to combat global warming into disarray.
…
The 41-33 vote followed a tumultuous debate in which the conservative main opposition party at first agreed to support a version of the government’s bill, then dramatically dumped its leader and switched sides after bitter divisions erupted within the party.
From the Australian:
KEVIN Rudd has lost his bid to deliver an emissions trading scheme in Australia before talks in Copenhagen but won an early election trigger after the Senate formally rejected the laws again today.
Just two Liberal senators broke ranks with a clear mandate among Coalition MPs to delay an ETS and voted with Labor on an emissions trading scheme
Deputy Senate leader Eric Abetz declared: “The CPRS is dead. And no amount of CPR can revive it”
Herald Sun columnist Andrew Bolt writes:
Rudd’s great tax on everything is defeated
How close was that bullet? A mad new tax is voted down, thanks only to Tony Abbott’s one-vote win over Malcolm Turnbull yesterday…
Maybe it had something to do with this:
“We have heard from the Independent Pricing Regulator in NSW just yesterday that this ETS would add 30 per cent to the people of NSW’s power bills …
And as Bolt points out to WUWT a couple of days ago, Climategate figured in as well:
Rudd’s belief that man is heating the world is based almost entirely on the reports of the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change.
But thousands of emails uncovered in this month’s Climategate scandal show that the scientists most responsible for those reports did not just doctor data, destroy awkward evidence, and censor sceptical scientists.
They also show some of them privately admitting that the world seems not to be heating as they (and Rudd) predicted.
“Where the heck is global warming?” raged Kevin Trenberth, an IPCC lead author, to another Climategate scientist: “The fact is that we can’t account for the lack of warming at the moment and it is a travesty that we can’t.”
Fair Dinkum.
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I love the smell of failing Emissions Trading Schemes in the morning….
Paul Sheehan ( a respected journalist in the Sydney Morning Herald) today said that a conservative estimate of 400,000 emails were sent to the 99 Coalition MP’s (Liberal and National Party) over the past two months. A letter in the same paper today suggested that the emails were from the ‘Alan Jones Fan Club’ (Conservative radio commentator like Rush Limbaugh) and the “protests would disappear like the rising sun”.
As I said before,there is a lotta learin’ goin’ on here.
At least the midday ABC news did have Ian Plimer make a comment but they just had to finish up with Stern and Antarctic icebergs. Lord Monkton was standing next to Plimer but his name was not mentioned. Not famous enough for the ABC yet.
But the cracks are appearing.
Congrats you Aussies!
Peter in New Zealand: “Pity they passed a regressive ETS in New Zealand last week”.
Pity, indeed. I am also in New Zealand, and it is hard to believe there has not been a stronger movement fighting this stuff. Don’t we have a reputation for independent thought? (Or used to!)
It is thought that one of the reasons for John Key rushing it through parliament when he did, was so he could be just like our big brothers across the Tasman, in time for the Copenhagen meeting. Fully expecting (as most did) that Australia’s ETS would be successfully passed into law last week. So now, where does this leave New Zealand… out in the cold?
Factcheck: Hacked E-Mails Are Part of Disinformation Campaign
WASHINGTON (December 1, 2009) — Climate contrarians continue to use hacked e-mails from the Climate Research Unit at the University of East Anglia in Great Britain to attack climate science. The Union of Concerned Scientists has published a backgrounder factchecking the contrarians and discussing the e-mails’ implications for the principles of scientific openness and scientific integrity
backgrounder factchecking: http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/global_warming_contrarians/contrarians-using-hacked-e-mails.html
An excellent example of Aussie Rules AKA Aerial Ping Pong.
To all my friends in Oz, I’m hoisting a glass of red ned to you. Keep up the good work
Some Big Business in Australia, has decided that ETS, (Capn Trade US) is not the way to go.
The science is unsettled therefore a Carbon Tax may be a better option as science can outline tactics to address real impacts.
A week ago there was a push by big business for ETS. Now it’s withering.
SME business has been against it ETS a long time but with so called consensus AGW science they could not make a case.
ETS is dead. Because Permits in pollutants are not technology.
Several people have suggested that Monbiot has changed his spots.
I don’t think so …. listening to him exchanging words with Bjorn Lomberg today on Canada’s CBC, he is as committed to AGW as ever.
I have not seen the debate that followed but here is the connection:
http://www.munkdebates.com/
Gene Nemetz: “I love the smell of failing Emissions Trading Schemes in the morning”
Yeah. Especially when their proper name is “Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme”! Man, that word “pollution” in there has really been a red rag to a bull.
One day into it and Tony Abbott has already started back-peddling on his AGW scepticism. It’s only a matter of time before the Libs cave in – this IS politics we are talking about. The only way we are ever going to stake this vampire throught the heart is with a grass-roots movement. And I just don’t know how interested the silent majority is – sure they don’t want this, but guilt is a powerful force.
The question is now will Rudd want to make the ETS the primary election issue by calling a double dissolution election for March 2010?
I don’t think he will, they are aware that a strong campaign pointing out all the flaws in the ETS will motivate a lot of voters back to the Liberals. This was an issue they were hoping to sneak through in the dark, it won’t stand the light of day.
We’ll know in the next few days, at the moment I’m reveling in the victory, faith in my country once again restored.
400,000 emails is a grass roots movement
“Steve Schapel (19:12:11) :
Peter in New Zealand: “Pity they passed a regressive ETS in New Zealand last week”.
Pity, indeed. I am also in New Zealand, and it is hard to believe there has not been a stronger movement fighting this stuff. Don’t we have a reputation for independent thought? (Or used to!)
It is thought that one of the reasons for John Key rushing it through parliament when he did, was so he could be just like our big brothers across the Tasman, in time for the Copenhagen meeting. Fully expecting (as most did) that Australia’s ETS would be successfully passed into law last week. So now, where does this leave New Zealand… out in the cold?”
A net exporter of wealth, people (More so than it already is) and jobs.
And a Merry Christmas to all the Who’s in Whoville, Australia tonight.
How the Grinch almost stole the Climate.
Or maybe it was the Ghost’s of Climates Past.
Flats (19:34:46) :
The question is now will Rudd want to make the ETS the primary election issue by calling a double dissolution election for March 2010?
No such luck… looks like they are going to attempt to get it through the senate a third time in Feb.
http://www.smh.com.au/national/dead–ets-to-rise-again-20091202-k4c1.html?autostart=1
Here are some interesting comments on Monbiot’s flying to Canada after he said flying is as “unacceptable as child abuse.” Unless of course your are promoting your new book: “Heat: How To Stop The Planet From Burning”
Just a tad hypocritical IMHO.
Comments on Monbiot from a Canadian perspective:
http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20091129/cda_climate_091129/20091130?hub=Toronto
Now all we have to do is throw Waxman-Markey on the Barbie.
Fair Dinkum?
“Hosco (19:45:47) :
Fair Dinkum?”
Fair go, fair change etc etc…meaning good.
Or as KRudd747 likes to say “A fair shake of the sauce bottle!”. If you ask me, he and Mzzzz wRong and Mzzzz Gillard have been on the sauce far too long….
from Colorado I have been listening for some time to Alan Jones and 2GB on a Grace wireless internet radio. Wonderful station. US talk radio could learn a lot from them.
twawki (19:39:27) :
400,000 emails is a grass roots movement
It’s certainly a start. Let’s hope it’s strong enough to withstand savvy propagandists dangling the plight of our grandchildren and little furry animals in our faces.
When is Pravda MSM going to tell the sheeple we are in a pretty serious solar minimum currently?
rbateman (19:44:55) :
“Now all we have to do is throw Waxman-Markey on the Barbie.”
Not sure that 1000+ page bill would taste good even if barbequed. But it would definitely make a good fire.
I have a more aggressive idea: Throw Waxman and Markey (themselves) to a few hungry white pointers.
Anybody that can proclaim on national television that the North Pole is “evaporating”…deserves to be eaten as chum har har by some svelte Aussie predator.
Meanwhile….back to the E.T.S.: Way to go Australia.
Dah dih dah dih dah dih dah dih DAH DIH! (Cue Jaws theme).
Give ’em hell!
Chris
Norfolk, VA, USA
Wouldn’t it be funny if European carbon credit traders began suing the UN and climatologist for fraud and falsifying climate data?