The appearance of hypocrisy at the NYT – Note to Andy

Paul Chesser of the American Spectator writes about Andy Revkin’s lack of coverage at the NYT blog “Dot Earth”, in Andy Did Something Good Last Night, and gives him some points for posting a rebuttal.

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/blogs_v3/dotearth/dotearth_main.png

That’s all well and good, but consider this:

Mr. Revkin stated in an earlier blog post that:

The documents appear to have been acquired illegally and contain all manner of private information and statements that were never intended for the public eye, so they won’t be posted here.

Having worked in TV and radio newsrooms myself for 25 years, I can understand and relate to Andy’s position, to a point, but I think that point is long past now.

  1. Like it or not, the files are now in the public domain, they aren’t ever going back to private. They can’t be put back in the bottle now.
  2. It appears, due to the content, that the people’s right to know outweighs the need for privacy.
  3. The FOIA process appears to have been purposely circumvented in this case.
  4. NYT has in the past had no compunction about publishing private, or even classified government information. For example NYT published information contained in classified documents related to surveillance in the now famous story Bush Lets U.S. Spy on Callers Without Courts.
  5. In that NYT story it was said that:

    Nearly a dozen current and former officials, who were granted anonymity because of the classified nature of the program, discussed it with reporters for The New York Times because of their concerns about the operation’s legality and oversight.

  6. In the US surviellance issue, appears that NYT thought the public’s right to know outweighed the need for secrecy, but that action isn’t consistent with previous reporting at NYT with far more volatile information.
  7. In the Case of ClimateGate, the files are not classified, the players are known and public, and due to what seems to be public  “concerns about the operation’s legality and oversight” of CRU it would seem to me that the public’s right to know outweighs the FOIA limited privacy concerns, especially since it appears there may have been FOIA laws broken.
  8. Revkin himself appears in those CRU emails, suggesting the need for NYT reporting of the issue would be even greater to avoid the appearance of “running cover” for the scientists with whom he collaborated. Yesterday’s piece from Dr. Ray Pierrehumbert gives the appearance of “running cover”.
  9. Other media outlets are kicking your butt.

Here’s Paul Chesser’s piece, saying many of the same things:

Andy Did Something Good Last Night

By on 11.24.09 @ 9:47AM

The Amazing Revkin of the New York Times, that is, who at about 5:00 yesterday posted a reader response to the whining of University of Chicago climatologist Raymond Pierrehumbert, who also contributes to the alarmist RealClimate blog. The responder is Geoff Smith, who is mentioned a few times in the Climategate emails. Smith challenges Pierrehumbert to overlook the “cyberterrorism” (Waaah!) and instead question: the deletion of emails to avoid Freedom of Information requests; the exclusion of research that CRU scientists and their colleagues disagree with; the “tricks” of playing with data to fit the scientists’ assumptions; and the desire to oust scientific journal editor who published the works of their enemies.

So, good for Andy for posting those succinct thoughts by Mr. Smith. But here are points deducted for Mr. Amazing:

1. He provides “balance” in his blog post by repeating verbatim the latest defense attempt on the scandal by the University of East Anglia. The spin includes, besides “out of context,” blah, blah:

CRU’s published research is, and has always been, fully peer-reviewed by the relevant journals, and is one strand of research underpinning the strong consensus that human activity is affecting the world’s climate in ways that are potentially dangerous. CRU is one of a number of independent centers working in this important area and reaching similar conclusions. It will continue to engage fully in reasoned debate on its findings with individuals and groups that are willing to have their research and theories subjected to scrutiny by the international scientific community.

“Peer-review” and “reasoned debate” were two issues that were proven to be disregarded by Phil Jones and his henchmen. Why does CRU want to surge even deeper into laughingstock territory?

2. Still waiting for Andy to do some of his own original reporting, for actual stories in the newspaper rather than blog posts, after he said on Friday that repercussions “continue to unfold” and “there’s much more to explore.” Does his curiosity extend only to reader comments on his own blog posts?

3. He also posted yesterday a regurgitation of the Times’ position on global warming, which is the same as the old position (“consensus!”). Perfect timing Andy!

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joe
November 24, 2009 8:42 am

Video:
Status of the CLOUD experiment – November 2009
(The Sun and the climate)
http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/1221088/

chainpin
November 24, 2009 8:49 am

You know, sometimes all it takes is for a person to have a little courage and self respect to stand up and do the right thing.
Perhaps Andy is being shackled by the NYT’s editors, but maybe not.
Perhaps he is afraid to lose his job if he fights to report what should and needs to be reported about the greatest scientific fraud in our lifetime.
Perhaps he is simply a coward.
Whatever his state of mind, the longer he remains silent, the littler he becomes.

Joe
November 24, 2009 8:50 am

Give them a chance, it is still early in this scandal and their entire world view (literally) is hanging on the brink of collapse.
It’s going to take an extended street wrestling match with Rowdy Roddy Piper to get them to finally put on the glasses… right now it’s enough that they are entertaining the possibility.

joe
November 24, 2009 8:52 am

Happily CLOUDy
While the LHC experiments are fine-tuning their equipments waiting for ‘glamorous’ beams, CLOUD has finished its assembly phase and is starting taking data using a beam of protons from the 50 year-old Proton Synchrotron (PS). Here is a quick detour around a cutting-edge physics experiment that will shed light on climate-related matters.

“We expect the first results to come fairly quickly, some will already be available in real time as soon as we switch on the equipment. The results of a more quantitative analysis will be available in about one year from now”.

http://cdsweb.cern.ch/record/1221077?ln=en

Douglas DC
November 24, 2009 8:52 am

Revkin was a player in all of this,sort of a information minister to the CRU’s Politburo…
Monboit almost seems noble-in his admission…

Sean
November 24, 2009 8:59 am

The climate gate story and the NY Times coverage brought me to a decision point this past weekend. I fully expect to subscribe to an electronic edition of a newspaper in the near future rather than just freeload off the web. I could not decide which to choose however. It took the NY Times and WaPo nearly 24 hours to even report a hack at the CRU, let alone revealed what a bombshell it would be to climate science. I decided at that point, these two alleged newspapers would not be on my list for consideration.

Vinnster
November 24, 2009 8:59 am

Check out http://spectator.org/blog/2009/11/24/climate-gate-development-cei-f
“Today, on behalf of the Competitive Enterprise Institute, I filed three Notices of Intent to File Suit against NASA and its Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS), for those bodies’ refusal – for nearly three years – to provide documents requested under the Freedom of Information Act. ”
They mention Gavin in the suit.

jay
November 24, 2009 9:01 am

I think that one should attempt a more thorough examination of all the players…………………..
http://www.whois.net/whois/realclimate.com
realclimate.com is owned by Environmental Media Services, Washington DC. EMS was founded by one Arlie Schardt. And Mr Schardt just happens to be Al Gore’s communications director for his 2000 presidential run, among other things: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environ…Media_Services
So here we have the ‘leading’ AGW website offering free rein to AGW scientists while stifling any dissenting voices. A website that just happens to be owned by Al Gore’s buddy.
Branching out further we have Gore’s Generation Investment Management and other carbon-trading schemes he and his chums stand to do very, very nicely out of – provided certain inconvenient truths didn’t come to light.
The whole enterprise is a global-sized racket. The real science never stood a chance.
Al Gore and friends are Madoff clones of the highest order…

November 24, 2009 9:05 am

A good WSJ article on the email fallout: click

rick
November 24, 2009 9:08 am

Revkin had no qualms about publishing documents obtained unethically, if not illegally in an article a few months back.
“Industry Ignored Its Scientists on Climate”.
In the artcle he notes,
“The documents were recently sent to The New York Times by a lawyer for environmental groups that sided with the state. The lawyer, eager to maintain a cordial relationship with the court, insisted on anonymity because the litigation is continuing.”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/24/science/earth/24deny.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&emc=eta1&adxnnlx=1259082036-AjS5iGS7c+fwofzzg/T3Rw

AnonyMoose
November 24, 2009 9:13 am

A NYT blog was quite willing to link to the Wikileaks copy of Palin emails. The CRU emails are also on Wikileaks. And it is certainly not hard to find examples of NYT use of material from many sources, as long as the topic benefits the NYT’s liberal leanings. The Pentagon Papers is the most widely known example.

nc
November 24, 2009 9:16 am

Along the same lines go over to Wikipedia and search under climategate, sure can see their bias. Note how they use the term global warming skeptic compared to climate scientists. Wikipedia sure like looking down their noses at the skeptics.

November 24, 2009 9:17 am

It IS odd that this email about a One World Government should be hanging around among the Hadcrut emails. It perhaps demonstrates the extreme left-wing thinking of some of these people.
http://www.eastangliaemails.com/emails.php?eid=304&filename=1048799107.txt
The websites referred to in this email are for this site, which is mostly defunct:
http://members.shaw.ca/earthgov
The ‘president’ of this one-man-band Earth Community is one Germain Dufour, a Canadian. This chap:
http://www.zoominfo.com/Search/PersonDetail.aspx?PersonID=183468828
And his so-called ‘Earth Community’ has now moved to this address:
http://globalcommunitywebnet.com/GD2009/gd2009frontpage.htm
.
I was just wondering, however.
a. To whom in CRU did this email originally belong?
b. How much climate-change money (my money) has been diverted into absurd websites and projects like this one.
.

November 24, 2009 9:20 am

Nine Billion People. One Planet. One Creduluous Reporter. Led By The Nose By Michael Mann.

austin
November 24, 2009 9:21 am

Who is Seymour Hersh?
The NYT needs to get real.

November 24, 2009 9:23 am

I searched CNN’s website for CRU news:
Your search CRU emails did not match any documents
And they wonder why their ratings are dropping.

Sunfighter
November 24, 2009 9:27 am

As Glenn Beck said, the NYT suddenly claims it has nobility and a moral compass? After how many decades now of publishing top secret documents and military stratagies?
Dont expect the media to help you guys on this climategate, youre gonna have the be the ones to keep pressing it home, as you already can see, the BBC continues their climate story of the day, today its climate change is causing all the wars in africa. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8375949.stm
I fear this will be a losing battle no matter the evidence, the powers that be have already choosen a direction, and they never change course once the money starts to flow and the little empires are built up. The only thing you can do is cause doubt.

Chris
November 24, 2009 9:28 am

Sean,
How about subscribing to the WSJ?

JimB in Canada
November 24, 2009 9:34 am

Can anyone tell me if there are more emails and data coming?
I’ve heard this is only about 1/3 of the full amount of the emails I would love to know when the next big shoe will fall!

jorgekafkazar
November 24, 2009 9:40 am

Hey, Andy, wake up and smell the coffee. And that other aroma? That’s toast, Andy. That’s you. Better get a move on.
I’m thinking of writing a book about ClimateGate and media involvement. I’ll need a descriptive title that sums up the situation succinctly. Maybe “The Silence of the Whores.”

Richard Heg
November 24, 2009 9:41 am

Most people forget that a work email belongs to the organisation you work for and therefore is not private.

Skeptic Tank
November 24, 2009 9:44 am

While the NYT probably didn’t break any laws by publishing classified information, the person(s) from who they received the information almost certainly did.
You’re not allowed to take it upon yourself to unilaterally declassify Government classified information, just because you don’t like a policy or even if you legitimately question its legality. I can’t believe it wasn’t pursued.

Ken Hall
November 24, 2009 9:45 am

The hypocrisy in condemning the alleged hacking of this information by people who support criminal damage to shut down power stations, airports and other industrial enterprises is staggering.
They day these people, like Dr Hansen, encouraged people who took the law into their own hands to break into power stations and ground aircraft at airports, they lost any moral authority to protest against the alleged hacking in this case.

JimB
November 24, 2009 9:46 am

This is a whole new version of “It’s a Wonderful Life”, typically aired in the U.S. during the holiday season.
I’m amazed that any number of official agencies haven’t raided the place to secure whatever documents and computer files still exist, and started retrieval processes for all backup tapes, both onsite and offsite. It’s obvious that what’s been released in this batch is a small sample of what else is out there, and who knows what THOSE emails/files contain?
Let’s see…what possible reason would the U.S. have in dragging it’s feet on this? 😉 Bet we can all come up with the same list.
JimB

George E. Smith
November 24, 2009 9:48 am

Well Andy must be less of an investigative Journalist than I have been giving him credit for; so it isn’t too surprising to find him with his hand in the cookie jar.
But his excuse for not pursuing this (the stuff was illegally stolen) is looking less and less plausible all the time.
Andy; did you consider that one of the higher ups in this conspiracy; like someone of Jones’ stature, put this cherry picked file of burning embers together ready for the dog to eat, and accidently left it on the back seat of his car with the window open.
The likelihood that an outside hacker selected all this stuff for release seems remote. But someone with inside intimate knowledge of the whole tribe of miscreants could easily do that, and then play the stupidity card, like the one that got Steve McIntire legal access to the Yamal burning bush. Or an internal whistle blower posted the already constructed FOIA2009 file.
And ther NYT editors are looking dumber as time goes on. (IMHO of course)

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