CRU Emails – search engine now online

Quite a lot of interest continues in the files from CRU that were leaked/hacked and placed on a Russian FTP server. Quite a number of other websites have been things with them ranging from commentary to evaluation of validity. With over 1000 emails, it is a bit of a task to wade through.

The Internet is an amazing place. Now there’s a website that has put all of the emails into a searchable database with a web engine interface.

The screencap below shows the engine at http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/

I have no idea who put this together, but it does seem to work quite well. For example, typing in the  keyword “moron” yields an interesting email.  So does typing in the name of a prominent climate “bulldog”.

click to be taken to the website

Interesting stuff.

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Evan Jones
Editor
November 22, 2009 5:18 pm

So they need to form an ethics committee, do they?
O! The Irony!
Oy.
——————————————————-
From: Tom Wigley
To: André Berger
Subject: Re: FW: Shaviv & Veizer in GSA Today
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 09:00:33 -0600
Cc: Mike MacCracken , Martin Hoffert , Karl Taylor , Ken Caldiera , Curt Covey , Stefan Rahmstorf , “Michael E. Mann” , Raymond Bradley , Malcolm Hughes , Phil Jones

, Kevin Trenberth , Tom Crowley , Scott Rutherford , Caspar Ammann , Keith Briffa , Tim Osborn , Michael Oppenheimer , Steve Schneider , Gabi Hegerl , Ellen Mosley-Thompson , Eric Steig , jmahlman@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, wuebbles@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, jto@u.arizona.edu, stocker@xxxxxxxxx.xxx, Urs Neu , Jürg Beer
Andre,
I have been closely involved in the CR fiasco. I have had papers that I
refereed (and soundly rejected), under De Freitas’s editorship, appear
later in the journal — without me seeing any response from the authors.
As I have said before to others, his strategy is first to use mainly
referees that are in the anti-greenhouse community, and second, if a
paper is rejected, to ignore that review and seek another more
‘sympathic’ reviewer. In the second case he can then (with enough
reviews) claim that the honest review was an outlier.
I agree that an ethics committee is needed and I would be happy to serve
on such a committee. It would have to have endorsement by international
societies, like Roy. Soc., US Nat. Acad., Acad. Europ., plus RMS, AMS,
AGU, etc.
Jim Titus mentioned to me that in the legal profession here people are
disbarred for behavior like that of De Freitas (and even John Christy —
although this is a more subtle case). We cannot do that of course, but
we can alert the community of honest scientists to such behavior and
formally discredit these people.
The Danish Acad. did something like this recently, but were not entirely
successful.
In the meantime, I urge people to dissociate themselves from Climate
Research. The residual ‘editorial’ (a word I use almost tongue in cheek)
board is looking like a rogues’ gallery of skeptics. Those remaining who
are credible scientists should resign.
Tom.

Editor
November 22, 2009 5:21 pm

I accidentlally found this today when I did a search for anelegantchaos.org
Excerpts from the lyrics of Julian Cope’s “An Elegant Chaos”:
Looking down
At the carefully laid out infamy
Take a scythe, take a scythe,
To the rotting core
Of man-vegetation
Now I sigh
At the cool cool attitude to ignorance

David
November 22, 2009 5:23 pm

“> This is just a scoping mtg, so only a small subset of those who will
> be
> involved. You need to get your gov to push you once the chapter
> outline is
> decided (i.e., you get nominated for specific roles in specific
> chapters –
> or at least that is how it worked before – suspect you know the
> drill).

http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/emails.php?eid=977&filename=1243432634.txt
And only one quote out in the news so far, wow.

Evan Jones
Editor
November 22, 2009 5:44 pm

Ho-Ho!
DARN that “due diligence” thing. The NERVE!
(And love that last paragraph.)
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From: Stephen H Schneider
To: santer1@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [Fwd: data request]
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 10:50:56 -0800 (PST)
Cc: “David C. Bader” , Bill Goldstein , Pat Berge , Cherry Murray , George Miller , Anjuli Bamzai , Tomas Diaz De La Rubia , Doug Rotman , Peter Thorne , Leopold Haimberger , Karl Taylor , Tom Wigley , John Lanzante , Susan Solomon , Melissa Free , peter gleckler , “Philip D. Jones”

, Thomas R Karl , Steve Klein , carl mears , Doug Nychka , Gavin Schmidt , Steven Sherwood , Frank Wentz
“Thanks” Ben for this, hi all and happy new year. I had a similar experience–but not FOIA since we at Climatic Change are a private institution–with Stephen McIntyre demanding that I have the Mann et al cohort publish all their computer codes for papers published in Climatic Change. I put the question to the editorial board who debated it for weeks. The vast majority opinion was that scientists should give enough information on their data sources and methods so others who are scientifically capable can do their own brand of replication work, but that this does not extend to personal computer codes with all their undocumented sub routines etc. It would be odious requirement to have scientists document every line of code so outsiders could then just apply them instantly. Not only is this an intellectual property issue, but it would dramatically reduce our productivity since we are not in the business of producing software products for general consumption and have no resources to do so. The NSF, which funded the studies I published, concurred–so that ended that issue with Climatic Change at the time a few years ago.
This continuing pattern of harassment, as Ben rightly puts it in my opinion, in the name of due diligence is in my view an attempt to create a fishing expedition to find minor glitches or unexplained bits of code–which exist in nearly all our kinds of complex work–and then assert that the entire result is thus suspect. Our best way to deal with this issue of replication is to have multiple independent author teams, with their own codes and data sets, publishing independent work on the same topics–like has been done on the “hockey stick”. That is how credible scientific replication should proceed.
Let the lawyers figure this out, but be sure that, like Ben is doing now, you disclose the maximum reasonable amount of information so competent scientists can do replication work, but short of publishing undocumented personalized codes etc. The end of the email Ben attached shows their intent–to discredit papers so they have no “evidentiary value in public policy”–what you resort to when you can’t win the intellectual battle scientifically at IPCC or NAS.
Good luck with this, and expect more of it as we get closer to international climate policy actions, We are witnessing the “contrarian battle of the bulge” now, and expect that all weapons will be used.
Cheers, Steve
PS Please do not copy or forward this email.
Stephen H. Schneider
Melvin and Joan Lane Professor for Interdisciplinary Environmental Studies,
Professor, Department of Biology and
Senior Fellow, Woods Institute for the Environment

David
November 22, 2009 6:23 pm

“So I suspect, based on S/N arguments, that it’s better to search for an
anthropogenic surface temperature signal
over the oceans rather than the
land. Actually showing this might be useful.”
http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/emails.php?eid=795&filename=1178107838.txt
I thought the search was over, and the evidence was clear, the case overwhelming. Why are they still looking?

Paul Vaughan
November 22, 2009 6:42 pm

The “Recent Posts” list is getting awfully heavy on administrative cynicism and remarkably light on scientific inspiration.
Has anyone spotted any stimulating new research articles lately?
I can report that several times I encountered a bug which hung up (each time) the NASA Horizons online software. There is an interesting issue that can arise in fall 1582 where calendar systems switch. A NASA representative has since adjusted Horizons so that it cannot step into the “missing days”.

November 23, 2009 6:38 am

Debate on Fox news now!!!!!!!!!!!!

November 23, 2009 2:06 pm

Hey all, I just got a reply from Lord Monckton!
“I’m on it. I’m doing a piece for SPPI’s website, http://www.scienceandpublicpolicy.org, and I’ve already written, with Prof. Fred Singer, to the Information Commissioner here in the UK to ask him to prosecute the destroyers of data at the CRU. – M of B
The Viscount Monckton of Brenchley
Carie, Rannoch, PH17 2QJ
+44 1882 632341; fax 632776; cell +44 7980 634784
monckton@mail.com
Whee!!

Rational Debate
November 23, 2009 7:49 pm

Douglas J. Keenan (14:18:34) :
I sent the following to Phil Jones. &
——–
Douglas, ROFLM-you-know-what-O!
General comment to everyone on totally unrelated issue… in reading the CRU crew’s emails, I know I’m picking nits here of course, but man, I thought that *I* was bad about excessive use of exclamation points in my private emails. For business related emails as all of these CRU & related ones are, I can’t recall much of anyone. myself included, who was anywhere close as liberal with them. Those guys take the exclamation point cake. One nearly gets heart palpitations at the urgency in each of their emails, no?

Rational Debate
November 23, 2009 10:33 pm

Question for the moderator – in my previous post (19:49:51) I had tried to use the “&” sign to force the html editor as someone else had mentioned in a different post to show the following less than sign-SNIP-greater than sign as is commonly used to indicate I’d cut the rest of the copied post – and to see if that solution worked for future reference (e.g., if I posted part of an article or something that way).
I can’t tell however, if the post as it was didn’t work, or if perhaps you snipped it out? Please let me know. Perhaps if it just didn’t work, and you know the proper syntax you could post that also? Thanks!
REPLY: WordPress automatically removes most HTML formatting with the exception of character style formattings and links

Rational Debate
November 23, 2009 10:52 pm

Moderator – Feel free to post this or not as you see fit, just wanted to thank you for the reply.
Reply: ??? ~ ctm

Rational Debate
November 24, 2009 1:07 am

Rational Debate (22:52:40) :
Moderator – Feel free to post this or not as you see fit, just wanted to thank you for the reply.
Reply: ??? ~ ctm
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I’m sorry for the confusion CTM, I was referring to my previous post 22:33:12 and thanking you for your reply to my question there.

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