UPDATE: Response from CRU in interview with another website, see end of this post.
The details on this are still sketchy, we’ll probably never know what went on. But it appears that University of East Anglia Climate Research Unit has been hacked and many many files have been released by the hacker or person unknown.
UPDATED: Original image was for Met Office – corrected This image source: www.cru.uea.ac.uk
I’m currently traveling and writing this from an airport, but here is what I know so far:
An unknown person put postings on some climate skeptic websites that advertised an FTP file on a Russian FTP server, here is the message that was placed on the Air Vent today:
We feel that climate science is, in the current situation, too important to
be kept under wraps.
We hereby release a random selection of correspondence, code, and documents
The file was large, about 61 megabytes, containing hundreds of files.
It contained data, code, and emails from Phil Jones at CRU to and from many people.
I’ve seen the file, it appears to be genuine and from CRU. Others who have seen it concur- it appears genuine. There are so many files it appears unlikely that it is a hoax. The effort would be too great.
Here is some of the emails just posted at Climate Audit on this thread:
http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=7801#comments
I’ve redacted email addresses and direct phone numbers for the moment. The emails all have US public universities in the email addresses, making them public/FOIA actionable I believe.
From: Phil Jones
To: mann@vxxxxx.xxx
Subject: Fwd: John L. Daly dead
Date: Thu Jan 29 14:17:01 2004
From: Timo H‰meranta
To:
Subject: John L. Daly dead
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:04:28 +0200
X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510
Importance: Normal
Mike,
In an odd way this is cheering news ! One other thing about the CC paper – just found
another email – is that McKittrick says it is standard practice in Econometrics journals
to give all the data and codes !! According to legal advice IPR overrides this.
Cheers
Phil
“It is with deep sadness that the Daly Family have to announce the sudden death of John
Daly.Condolences may be sent to John’s email account (daly@john-daly.com)
“
Reported with great sadness
Timo H‰meranta
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Timo H‰meranta, LL.M.
Moderator, Climatesceptics
Martinlaaksontie 42 B 9
01620 Vantaa
Finland, Member State of the European Union
Moderator: timohame@yxxxxx.xxx
Private: timo.hameranta@xxxxx.xx
Home page: [1]personal.inet.fi/koti/hameranta/climate.htm
Moderator of the discussion group “Sceptical Climate Science”
[2]groups.yahoo.com/group/climatesceptics
“To dwell only on horror scenarios of the future
shows only a lack of imagination”. (Kari Enqvist)
“If the facts change, I’ll change my opinion.
What do you do, Sir” (John Maynard Keynes)
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0)xxxxxx
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) xxxxxx
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email p.jones@xxx.xx.xx
NR4 7TJ
UK
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References
1. http://personal.inet.fi/koti/hameranta/climate.htm
2. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/climatesceptics
From: Phil Jones
To: ray bradley ,mann@xxxxx.xxx, mhughes@xxxx.xxx
Subject: Diagram for WMO Statement
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 13:31:15 +0000
Cc: k.briffa@xxx.xx.xx,t.osborn@xxxx.xxx
Dear Ray, Mike and Malcolm,
Once Tim’s got a diagram here we’ll send that either later today or
first thing tomorrow.
I’ve just completed Mike’s Nature trick of adding in the real temps
to each series for the last 20 years (ie from 1981 onwards) amd from
1961 for Keith’s to hide the decline. Mike’s series got the annual
land and marine values while the other two got April-Sept for NH land
N of 20N. The latter two are real for 1999, while the estimate for 1999
for NH combined is +0.44C wrt 61-90. The Global estimate for 1999 with
data through Oct is +0.35C cf. 0.57 for 1998.
Thanks for the comments, Ray.
Cheers
Phil
Prof. Phil Jones
Climatic Research Unit Telephone +44 (0) xxxxx
School of Environmental Sciences Fax +44 (0) xxxx
University of East Anglia
Norwich Email p.jones@xxxx.xxx
NR4 7TJ
UK
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From: Jonathan Overpeck
To: “Michael E. Mann”
Subject: letter to Senate
Date: Tue, 22 Jul 2003 16:49:31 -0700
Cc: Caspar M Ammann , Raymond Bradley , Keith Briffa , Tom Crowley , Malcolm Hughes , Phil Jones , mann@xxxxx.xxx, jto@xxxxx.xx.xxx, omichael@xxxxx.xxx, Tim Osborn , Kevin Trenberth , Tom Wigley
Hi all – I’m not too comfortable with this, and would rather not sign – at least not
without some real time to think it through and debate the issue. It is unprecedented and
political, and that worries me.
My vote would be that we don’t do this without a careful discussion first.
I think it would be more appropriate for the AGU or some other scientific org to do this –
e.g., in reaffirmation of the AGU statement (or whatever it’s called) on global climate
change.
Think about the next step – someone sends another letter to the Senators, then we respond,
then…
I’m not sure we want to go down this path. It would be much better for the AGU etc to do
it.
What are the precedents and outcomes of similar actions? I can imagine a special-interest
org or group doing this like all sorts of other political actions, but is it something for
scientists to do as individuals?
Just seems strange, and for that reason I’d advise against doing anything with out real
thought, and certainly a strong majority of co-authors in support.
Cheers, Peck
Dear fellow Eos co-authors,
Given the continued assault on the science of climate change by some on Capitol Hill,
Michael and I thought it would be worthwhile to send this letter to various members of
the U.S. Senate, accompanied by a copy of our Eos article.
Can we ask you to consider signing on with Michael and me (providing your preferred
title and affiliation). We would like to get this out ASAP.
Thanks in advance,
Michael M and Michael O
______________________________________________________________
Professor Michael E. Mann
Department of Environmental Sciences, Clark Hall
University of Virginia
Charlottesville, VA 22903
_______________________________________________________________________
e-mail: mann@xxxxxx.xxx Phone: (434) 924-7770 FAX: (434) xxx-xxxxx
http://www.evsc.virginia.edu/faculty/people/mann.shtml
Attachment converted: Macintosh HD:EOS.senate letter-final.doc (WDBN/MSWD) (00055FCF)
–
Jonathan T. Overpeck
Director, Institute for the Study of Planet Earth
Professor, Department of Geosciences
Mail and Fedex Address:
Institute for the Study of Planet Earth
715 N. Park Ave. 2nd Floor
University of Arizona
Tucson, AZ 85721
direct tel: +xxxx
fax: +1 520 792-8795
http://www.geo.arizona.edu/Faculty_Pages/Overpeck.J.html http://www.ispe.arizona.edu/
It appears that the proverbial Climate Science Cat is out of the bag.
Developing story – more later
UPDATE1: Steve McIntyre posted this on Climate Audit, I used a screen cap rtaher than direct link becuase CA is overloaded and slow at the moment.
UPDATE2: Response from CRU h/t to WUWT reader “Nev”
http://briefingroom.typepad.com/the_briefing_room/2009/11/hadleycru-says-leaked-data-is-real.html
The director of Britain’s leading Climate Research Unit, Phil Jones, has told Investigate magazine’s TGIF Edition tonight that his organization has been hacked, and the data flying all over the internet appears to be genuine.
In an exclusive interview, Jones told TGIF, “It was a hacker. We were aware of this about three or four days ago that someone had hacked into our system and taken and copied loads of data files and emails.”
“Have you alerted police”
“Not yet. We were not aware of what had been taken.”
Jones says he was first tipped off to the security breach by colleagues at the website RealClimate.
“Real Climate were given information, but took it down off their site and told me they would send it across to me. They didn’t do that. I only found out it had been released five minutes ago.”
TGIF asked Jones about the controversial email discussing “hiding the decline”, and Jones explained what he was trying to say….
UPDATE3: McIntyre has posted an article by Jean S at climateaudit.org which is terribly overloaded. We have mirrored it.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/11/20/mikes-nature-trick/
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These e-mails confirm what I have suspected for some time; the CRU is populated by Green Activists not true scientists. But what does it say about the University of East Anglia who allow this to go on?
I have been trying to download the zip file, but all the links seem to be unavailable.
Does anyone know if this is overuse or are there new links?
Brooks Hurd:
w w w . w a r w i c k h u g h e s . c o m / a g r i / F O I 2 0 0 9 . z i p
without spaces works and is pretty fast.
Phil Clarke: Your citation of the Fourth Amendment forgets that the Bill of Rights specifically denies to the Federal government the power to confiscate private records. Illegal confiscation by an individual would be theft, pure and simple.
But isn’t the question whether these e-mails are indeed private documents? The weight of the evidence would seem to suggest otherwise.
It might be instructive to note to Americans here, that the 4th amendment has little to do with this issue, seeing that this is a British issue. Britain and the Commonwealth has no 4th amendment equivalent.
Hi everyone, I have been following this thread since last night… I am not an expert on this stuff but I am fascinated by this story. I have one simple question that I would like answered… I have been talking about this on another site, and some of the reaction has been “well, it’s unfortunate that these scientists may have lied, but they are not the only scientists studying climate change, and this does not invalidate the findings that OTHER scientists have found.”
How would you respond to that, or could someone provide a link that might address that broader question? Thanks!
Has anyone here contacted Dr Lindzen from MIT?
http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-7715-Portland-Civil-Rights-Examiner~y2009m8d18-Carbon-Dioxide-irrelevant-in-climate-debate-says-MIT-Scientist
The fact that Britain has no 4th Amendment equivalent is of little importance.
Since the information has come into public view, it is admissible in United States Courts, and the scientists at the Hadley Climate Research Unit, and their various counterparts across the world, identifiable through the emails, can likely be charged in United States Federal Courts, for various civil and criminal violations, including conspiracy and fraud.
Various industries, which have been under constant attack for years as a consequence of what appears to be fraudulent data, surreptitiously manipulated as part of an ongoing conspiracy by the scientists at the Hadley Climate Research Unit, may be able to bring civil actions against both the Hadley Climate Research Unit and against various individuals working there.
I would argue that this is not over. It has barely begun.
The consequences to some of the ivory tower eggheads are likely to be distinctly unpleasant.
Ok, as there is a lot of stuff going about this then I feel I need to say something, the main stream press are starting to say the skeptics are having a field day with the use of the term “trick”. As an environmental scientist that took my degree a couple of years ago we were taught how to fudge the data to fit our hypothesis, it was what our stats modules were based on for 2 years, making things fit within 5% of what we wanted to show and not let the data show we were wrong, so think about that before listening to what the mainstream are saying. I also have to say I am disgusted as a scientist some of the emails I have read, if you ask me if I have read the files, yes as they came, not from website reposts. We all know that all walks of life are corrupt but to claim oil companies are the evildoers in society and then get payment from them for studies is unethical and hypocritical and that is what these people have been doing according to some of the budget reports.
Please don’t let any of what is going to be said over the next few days/weeks let you think all scientists are bad and corrupt, we are not, some of us actually try and do fair and accurate reports and don’t fudge data even though we know how, and no while I think we should respect the environment and stop polluting it I dont believe humans are responsible for CAGW or very much GW for that matter.
Well!… let me just remind everyone . that when we look back to t all those Ancient Cultures.. they are all looking up to the sky and foccussing on the “SOL”.. it and only it will have the last say as to what will happen on planet Gaia.
No matter who says what … lets reconsider what the Mayas were really trying to tell us thousands of years before any of us realized how our “weather” functioned .
cheers!
Does anyone know how to contact Lord Monckton? I tried finding an email online and could not. I intend to urge him to find a way to file a suit against UAE CRU and those who are apparently involved in various frauds.
If the MSM will not cover this story — and it seems as though they are not — then there have to be other ways to bring these people and the incredibly serious issues these revelation raise (the manipulation of public opinion and the political process in many countries and through the UN) into a forum such that there is a chance to get the public to question and doubt AGW such that the wind comes out of the public policy insanity that is currently being considered.
Personally, I can see of no other way of getting at this issue now besides legal action. Who else should we be contacting to urge legal action?
Phil Clarke, re fourth amendment
Fourth Amendment does not apply to private parties, only to government actors. Thus, any private person can search, seize (steal) your private papers without any violation of any Amendment. The Fourth Amendment limits what the government can do, not private parties.
There are other laws that will apply, however, such as burglary, and torts such as invasion of privacy.
I need this badly, a link or the hard data on info that I read recently about one of the emails eluded to the fact that they preferred a one world government. I know I saw it but cannot find it anymore……. question is what happened to it. It is very important that I get this data and proof.
Anyone can find anything in the emails at this site where you can search with words.
A quick search with “Earth Government”
and here it is
http://www.anelegantchaos.org/cru/emails.php?eid=304&filename=1048799107.txt
RJC (10:46:52) :
Ask them to quickly name 4 other “climate scientists” who have driven IPCC policy, have control over a global metric such as a temperature data-set and are quoted by mainstream media whenever environmental/climate issues arise.
Hanson does not count as Gavin is his mouthpiece within this group.
Henry Galt: I doubt they would be able to provide that info. My (admittedly extremely limited understanding) of this story is that these scientists ARE the ones, who have come up with all the data, that has been hyped by the media all these years, and is the exact data that led up to things like Kyoto and Copahagen/future decline of civilization. That’s really all I know, though I am reading as much now as I can about this.
Seems to me the argument is going to be “there is data by other scientists that comes to the conclusion that manmade GW is real” or what not. There’s also the argument that they “just know” we are harming the environment, therefore we can’t afford to hesitate. I thought the whole basis of this topic was that scientific finds were saying man was changing the climate.
I also heard someone say that it was unfortunate that this would give more ammo to the skeptics. Aren’t scientists supposed to be skeptical of things until they have evidence?
Thanks for the response.
RJC (12:45:56) :
I know. It’s hard.
The main problem is that there is nothing to show for billions spent but the “just want to believe” crew are driving the agenda.
I want the evidence more than most people I talk to. Most are of the “Whadda ya gonna do…” persuasion.
I want this puppy put to bed. I am tired.
Contacting Lord Monckton – I’ve wondered that myself. Have been watching the website he recommended during a Glenn Beck show. http://www.webcommentary.com
There has been no recent activity there. But at the bottom of the list of signers by state, there is a warning that access to the names of signers is protected by a password only Monckton gives out.
But who are the guys behind the gang? The crime needs a (or more?) godfather to feed up and install the so called climate scientists. What’s the agenda?
Isn’t it?
Konrad Fischer
Oekoketzer
I AM QUITE SURE THAT THESE PEOPLE ( I WON’T CALL THEM SCIENTISTS ) DIDN’T DO THIS OUT OF THE KINDNESS OF THEIR HEARTS . . .
F O L L O W T H E M O N E Y !
Poptech (20:46:11) :
All Your Emails Are Belong To Us
OK, I finally got the connection. Good job. I’ve e-mailed the link to all my friends… uh… all three of them. Lucia has posted it at Blackboard.
Morbid (10:53:22)
That is very interesting about learning how to fit data to your hypothesis in your University degree stats module.
Would you care to name the University, and module number with dates? That would be a bombshell like the current topic.
Well at last… The BBC have finally given some airtime to this story and even a quick 6 frame shot of WUWT. Not on BBCworld or BBC1 or BBCNews – But on BBC Look East the local news bulletin for East Anglia.
The report concentrated on the fact that police have been brought in to investigate the hacking. Also some views were b’cast from atendees of a Green March in East Anglia today and a convert to AGW who is an MP – sorry I missed his name.
The programme is not yet available on BBC i player, but in case it becomes so – look at http://www.bbc.co.uk/lookeast/latest_stories/
Best Regards
KJ
@Katherine U- I found an email contact for Lord Monckton at the global warming heartland organization http://www.globalwarmingheartland.org/profile.html?profile=A5EF5C522A947D9336F90900D17E862A&directory=3B532E2483EE9165FD810C4DF38DBAEA.
It is simply monckton@mail.com
Lets blow that inbox up! I’ve been lurking here for days, and I just want to say thank you to all of you here, I’ve gotten quite an education. Keep up the fantastic work.
Konrad Fischer (13:32:22) :
Google the evil Canadian Maurice Strong. He set all this in motion. Currebntly he is hiding in China to avoid prosecution in a UN-North Korea money scandal.