The science of deceit
Guest post by Dr. Bob Carter, originally posted at Quadrant online

Science is about simplicity
A well-accepted aphorism about science, in the context of difference of opinion between two points of view, is “Madam, you are entitled to your own interpretation, but not to your own facts”.
The world stoker of the fires of global warming alarmism, the United Nations Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), cleverly suborns this dictum in two ways.
First, the IPCC accepts advice from influential groups of scientists who treat the data that underpins their published climate interpretations (collected, of course, using public research funds) as their own private property, and refuse to release it to other scientists.
Thus, confronted in 1996 with a request that he provide a U.S. peer-review referee with a copy of the data that underpinned a research paper that he had submitted, U.K. Hadley Climate Research Centre scientist Tom Wigley responded:
First, it is entirely unnecessary to have original “raw” data in order to review a scientific document. I know of no case at all in which such data were required by or provided to a referee ….. Second, while the data in question [model output from the U.K. Hadley Centre’s climate model] were generated using taxpayer money, this was U.K. taxpayer money. U.S. scientists therefore have no a priori right to such data. Furthermore, these data belong to individual scientists who produced them, not to the IPCC, and it is up to those scientists to decide who they give their data to.
In the face of such attitudes, which treat the established mores of scientific trust and method with contempt, it is scarcely surprising that it took Canadian statistics expert Steve McIntyre many years to get the primary data released that was used by another Hadley Centre scientist, Keith Briffa, in his published tree-ring reconstructions of past temperature from the Urals region, northern hemisphere. When he finally forced the release of the relevant data, McIntyre quickly proceeded to slay a second climate hockey-stick dragon which – like the first such beast fashioned by U.S. scientist Michael Mann, and widely promulgated by the IPCC – turned out to be based on faulty statistical methodology (see summary by Ross McKitrick here).
A variant on this, along “the dog ate my homework” path, also involves the Hadley Centre – which is the primary science provider of global temperature statistics to the IPCC. Faced with requests from outside scientists for the provision of the raw temperature data so that scientific audit checks could be undertaken, Hadley’s Phil Jones recently asserted that parts of the raw data used to reconstruct their global temperature curve for the period before about 1980 cannot be provided to outsiders because it has been lost or destroyed. In other words, it is now impossible to conduct an independent audit of the Hadley temperature curve for 1860-2008, on which the IPCC has based an important part of its alarmist global warming advice.
So much for data perversions. The second type of common distortion of normal scientific practice by the IPCC and its supporters concerns not data but hypotheses – which IPCC likes to define in its own way to suit its own ends. This attitude often manifests itself in the fashion expressed in a recent letter sent to me, viz:
Proponents of AGW claim that their theory is supported by peer reviewed literature whilst the case against it is not. This is a very effective argument and, although Solomon’s book The Deniers goes some way to counter it, I am not aware of an equally effective refutation. If there is one I would be most grateful if you could point me to it.
In an Australian variation of this, Greg Combet, assistant to climate Minister Penny Wong, earlier this year asserted with blatant inaccuracy that “we use only peer reviewed science and our opposition doesn’t”. Other IPCC sycophants phrase it slightly differently, such as: “if you climate sceptics had a scientific point of view it would have been published in reputable, peer-reviewed journals“.
Statements such as these all reflect a fundamental lack of understanding about the way that science works. They also exemplify the way in which climate alarmists always seek to frame the debate in ways that delivers them control, especially by clever choice of language (clean energy; climate change instead of global warming; carbon dioxide is a pollutant instead of a beneficial trace gas, etc.), or, in this case, by framing a hypothesis for testing that suits their political ends rather than Science’s ends.
If you accept at face value questions and comments like the ones enumerated above, you fall into a carefully laid climate alarmist trap. For the question “why are there no papers in peer-reviewed journals that disprove the hypothesis of dangerous human-caused global warming” is predicated, as is all related IPCC writing, on faulty science logic; specifically, it erects a wrong null hypothesis.
Scientists erect hypotheses to test based upon the fundamental science assumption of parsimony, or simplicity, sometimes grandly referred to as Occam’s Razor. That is to say, in seeking to explain matters of observation or experiment, a primary underlying principle is that the simplest explanation be sought; extraneous or complicating factors of interpretation, such as “extraterrestrials did it”, are only invoked when substantive evidence exists for such a complication.
Concerning the climate change that we observe around us today – which, importantly, is occurring at similar rates and magnitudes to that known to have occurred throughout the historical and geological past – the simplest (and therefore null) hypothesis, is that “the climate change observed today is natural unless and until evidence accrues otherwise”.
In regard to which, first, no such evidence has emerged. And, second, like any null hypothesis, that about modern climate change is there to be tested, as it has been. There are literally tens of thousands of peer-reviewed papers in major scientific journals that contain observations, data, experiments and theoretical reasoning that are consistent with the null hypothesis, which has therefore yet to be falsified (but, of course, one day might be).
The onus is therefore on Penny Wong and her scientists to provide some “evidence otherwise”. To give a clue how hard that task is, note that since 1988 (when the IPCC was created) western nations have spent more than $100 billion, and employed thousands of scientists, in attempts to measure the human signal in the global temperature record. The search has failed. Though no scientist doubts that humans influence climate at local level – causing both warmings (urban heat island effect) and coolings (land-use changes) – no definitive evidence has yet been discovered that a human influence is measurable, let alone dangerous, at global level. Rather, the human signal is lost in the noise of natural climate variation.
That the correct null hypothesis is the simplest hypothesis is, of course, no reason why other more complex hypotheses cannot be erected for testing. For instance, should you wish to test (as the IPCC should) the idea that “human carbon dioxide emissions are causing dangerous global warming”, then there are several ways that that can be done.
The result, long ago, has been the falsification of the dangerous human-caused warming hypothesis. Failed tests include: that global cooling has occurred since 1998 despite an increase in carbon dioxide of 5%; the lack of detailed correlation between the carbon dioxide and temperature records over the last 100 years; consideration of cause and effect timing of past carbon dioxide and temperature levels in ice core records; the absence of the model-predicted temperature hotspot high in the tropical troposphere; the low sensitivity of climate to carbon dioxide forcing as judged against empirical tests; and the demonstrable failure of computer GCMs to predict future climate.
These matters, and that the dangerous warming hypothesis fails numerous empirical tests, have been described in many places. Such writings, whether in refereed journals or not, are simply disparaged or ignored by those who wish to pursue the alarmist IPCC line.
It bears repeating that the onus is on Minister Wong, or her advisory IPCC scientists, to provide any evidence that the null hypothesis regarding modern climate change is false. Because she cannot do so, the clever trick is used of inverting the null hypothesis to demand that climate rationalist scientists demonstrate that human-cased global warming is not occurring.
Perhaps none of this would matter particularly were we dealing only with a squabble amongst scientists. But when ministers in our governments write, as did the Queensland Minister for Climate Change recently, that “The Queensland Government, along with the Australian Government and governments around the world, supports the findings of the IPCC”, it becomes a critical matter of necessity to understand that, in addition to being political in the first place, IPCC advice is also based upon faulty, indeed manipulative, science practice.
As independent scientific advisors to Senator Fielding have shown, the IPCC-derived science advice that the Australian Government is using as the basis for its carbon dioxide tax legislation is utterly flawed. This finding has yet to be rebutted.
Senators who vote for the second version of the misbegotten and misnamed Carbon Pollution Reduction Scheme bill will be supporting strongly harmful legislation that is based upon faulty science. Thereby, they will be abandoning their duty of care for the welfare of the Australian people.
DISCLOSURE: Bob Carter is one of the four independent climate scientists who, at Senator Fielding’s request, undertook a due diligence audit of the global warming advice being provided to Climate Minister Penny Wong by her Department. The three other scientists were David Evans, Stewart Franks and Bill Kininmonth.
s. wing (06:46:29) :
Bob Carter is an outspoken Aussie geologist and an expert on paleoclimate. As such, he is very familiar with the fact that CO2 and temperature have not always shown a strong correlation, and sometimes no correlation. In other words the CO2 as a sweater idea fails and is not needed.
Furthermore, in the more recent ice-core data where CO2 and temperature are closely correlated the inconvenient fact that C02 lags temperature indicates that the simple explanation is that CO2 is following Henry’s law and degassing from the ocean as the climate warms. Again the CO2 sweater model is not necessary and fails.
With those facts and the additional facts that temperatures have changed far more in the recent past than anything we have ever seen, it is simple to postulate that natural climate variability exists and is greater than anything we have lived through. Thus far the modern temperature records don’t show anything extraordinary. Therefore the null hypothesis – this is natural variance – stands and the extraordinary idea that humans are causing large changes fails.
Deanster (19:07:08) : ” .. isn’t it possible applying the method in reverse to generate a pretty good approximation of the raw data??”
Not all methods are reversible (e.g. If I know that the average of 5 numbers is 87, I still can’t recover original 5).
Joel (09:13:24) :
I’m not an atmospheric scientist by any means, but it definitely seems like CO2 must be some kind of magic gas to have such a disproportionately strong effect on a much larger atmospheric system.
But HE is a magician, HE was awarded with the Nobel prize because of HIS great achievements in CLIMATE forecasting, along with 2000 “scientists” (from a train driver-wrongly called railway “engineer”, in english- to a truck driver).
We are but the “gammas” in this “Brave New World” saga, so we are not supposed to think and less to opine about it.
s. wing
I like your style, but then I like the roadrunners style as well, I can see by your reference to ”realclimate” where your mindset comes from, unfortunately willy coyote has been censored on that site, he is always a winner, I have here near my house a farmer with state of the art greenhouses, his lettuce and tomatoes are for photographs, inside the sealed greenhouses the Co2 is pumped to x 5.4 atmospheric, temp. is at a constant 28°c please explain to me why a liter of water inside this greenhouse remains at 28°c if your hypothesis is correct, the water should be over 100°c
s. wing (06:46:29),
You are mis-stating both the application of the null hypothesis and the scientific method. I sincerely hope it is not deliberate, but is rather the result of listening to the agenda driven folks at blogs like realclimate. If you get your information from realclimate, you are being badly misinformed.
The long established theory of natural climate variability posits that the planet’s temperature oscillates above and below its long term trend line on a multi-decadal time frame. As climatologist Roy Spencer puts it: “No one has falsified the hypothesis that the observed temperature changes are a consequence of natural variability.”
Please think about what that means. In order for AGW to replace the theory of natural climate variability, the AGW hypothesis must falsify the theory of natural variability, or at least replace it with a testable, replicable and verifiable hypothesis that explains reality better than the long accepted theory.
Since AGW has failed to falsify the theory of natural climate variability, the CO2=AGW conjecture is either completely wrong, or it has such major errors that per the scientific method, it must be withdrawn and completely re-written in such a way that it falsifies and/or credibly replaces natural climate variability. The fact that its proponents have not done that indicates that they lack the empirical data to support CO2=AGW.
Natural climate variability is clearly evident in the climate record. But because the AGW alarmists deliberately refuse to abide by the requirements of the scientific method [which has provided civilization with an enormously improved standard of living; a greatly increased life span, and which is the reason people no longer go to witch doctors], then the alarmists’ continued promotion of AGW must be due to other, ulterior motives.
The Vostok ice core data also shows regular climate oscillations on a longer time frame; there are many natural cycles involved in the climate. When cycles reinforce or cancel, then ice ages, or a warmer than average climate results. In addition, there is no empirical [real world] evidence showing that CO2 causes the temperature to rise. But there is ample evidence showing that CO2 is the result of natural warming.
The new CO2=AGW hypothesis was put forth in an effort to replace the theory of natural climate variability. But since it fails to predict the climate, or to explain reality better than the current theory of natural climate variability, the hypothesis fails.
The only reason CO2=AGW is still seriously discussed is due to the very large amounts of funding involved. [It was recently reported here that climate skeptic studies have received about $19 million in grants — versus more than $50 billion in grants to study AGW.]
One of the major pieces of ‘evidence’ put forth for the CO2=AGW hypothesis was Michael Mann’s very impressive looking Hockey Stick, which showed an essentially flat temperature record from before the Medieval Warm Period [MWP] until the mid-1800’s, when the temperature shot almost straight up to a much higher level than anything over the past 1,000+ years.
We now know that Mann’s conclusion was wrong. It has been decisively falsified by McIntyre & McKitrick, whose work was verified by the Wegner statistician team in its report to Congress.
The UN/IPCC, which practically worshipped Mann’s Hockey Stick chart on the altar of AGW, has now been forced to delete it from all of its publications. Furthermore, Mann still refuses to cooperate with skeptical scientists. He continues to stonewall requests to publicly archive all of his raw and adjusted data, his algorithms and his methodology. Mann’s data manipulations had to be laboriously teased out by a form of reverse engineering by McIntyre and McKitrick.
The falsification of Mann’s peer reviewed hockey stick paper is now accepted by all but the most rabid true believers in AGW, such as the people running realclimate [much of it at taxpayer expense].
If Mann’s paper were not falsified, then the IPCC would still be using his beloved Hockey Stick. The IPCC loved Mann’s iconic chart showing an alarming and unprecedented rise in temperatures.
But to the IPCC’s subsequent chagrin and embarrassment, the very same hockey stick chart is produced when inputting completely random red noise into the Mann algorithm. Mann simply used a parlor trick to obtain his results. No doubt that is the reason he still refuses to cooperate with other climate scientists regarding his methods.
Remember that the scientific method absolutely requires full, open and complete cooperation from anyone putting forth a new hypothesis. In fact, the promoter of any new hypothesis has an obligation to try to falsify his own hypothesis. By routinely stonewalling requests from other scientists for his data and methodologies, Mann is deliberately avoiding the scientific method. What does that tell you about his methods? What does that tell you about his ethics?
The long established theory of natural climate variability has never been falsified [although there is, of course, always that possibility]. The Earth’s climate continues to naturally fluctuate above and below its gradually rising trend line, a trend line that goes back to the Little Ice Age [LIA], and to the last great Ice Age before that, when Chicago was under a mile of glacier ice. The current warming is the planet’s natural response to its recovery from the LIA, and there is nothing unusual happening. In fact, the planet’s temperature is well within its historical parameters despite the red-faced arm waving of those losing the AGW argument.
Sorry to be so long winded, but it can not be stressed strongly enough that the scientific method is being completely disregarded and ignored by proponents of the failed CO2=AGW hypothesis. When the scientific method is discarded, then the claimed results are not science. They are instead simply agenda based propaganda; cui bono is what must be asked.
Finally, it must be remembered that skeptics have nothing to prove. It is the purveyors of the AGW hypothesis who must make a logical case. By demanding that skeptics must prove their skepticism, they are tacitly admitting that their AGW hypothesis is in complete disarray.
Joseph in Florida (02:31:50) :
Until it snows again here in Orlando, I don’t see making a lot of headway with these two important groups of voters.
Unless, of course, we apply the current AGW/CC theory that ANY and ALL changes in weather are signs of anthropogenic causes and further proof of ongoing warming.
Of course there are numerous papers, published in peer reviewed journals, that show that there is little measurable anthropogenic component to climate changes. But those papers are in the wrong journals, the ones that haven’t met the environmentalists gold standard.
s. wing
For the first point, Dr Carter is arguing there is no evidence against the climate change observed today being natural. But that is clearly not the case. Humans have caused CO2 levels to rise in the atmosphere, and CO2 is a known greenhouse gas with the ability to affect climate. So, disagreeing with Dr Carter, there is evidence for a human contribution to the climate change observed today.
How much CO2 have humans added to the atmosphere? Yes CO2 levels have gone up, but our contribution is on the order of 3 to 5% of the total increase. I’d liken that as more of a Tshirt than a sweater.
Also, do we know for certain that CO2 has the ability to change climate at a catastrophic level? We may think that it does, but where is the proof that CO2 overrides natural variability? It certainly doesn’t look that way right now when CO2 continues to increase, but temperatures do not.
Paul Linsay (19:49:12) :
Off the top of my head, a list of some scientists whose work was never peer reviewed before publication. Add your own.
You are right. Peer review was invented by the church. The Dominican order was authorized to do it through the charming Inquisition institution.
s. wing (06:46:29) :
Another related strange thing about Dr Carter’s article, again using the sweater analogy:
The ‘null hypothesis’ has to be that you felt warmer ‘naturally’, not because you put the sweater on.
The alternative null hypothesis – that you felt warmer because you put the sweater on – is “against the fundamental science assumption of parsimony”.
It’s “a wrong null hypothesis”; it’s “predicated … on faulty science logic”. Even worse, its “a carefully laid climate alarmist trap”!
Dr Carter REALLY doesn’t want you to think the sweater may be warming you up.
The sweater is NOT warming you up. The sweater is passive: it contributes no energy.
Now if you were to light a fire, that WOULD warm you up.
If you want to argue from first principles, why not quote Aristotle’s ‘Physics?’
That T-shirt it is made out of cotton, cotton is a polymer of glucose and glucose a derivative of CO2 and water, mixed together with the help of sun rays in plants in a process called photosynthesis.
No CO2=No life
PERIOD!
For those who have not seen Dr. Bob Carter here are some links to some Youtube videos of a Climate Change talk he did.
Hopefully we are allowed to link to youtube since Bob’s talk is great. The video is in 4 parts so here is the link to part one.
Dr Carter…“… the simplest (and therefore null) hypothesis, is that “the climate change observed today is natural unless and until evidence accrues otherwise”… no such evidence has emerged. ..”
s. wing (01:00:29) :.. the rising concentration of the greenhouse gas CO2 in the atmosphere, with the approximate rate and isotopic composition expected from human emissions, is most certainly “evidence” for a non-natural contribution to the global warming.
No sorry that is not “evidence” for a non-natural contribution to the global warming. You are confusing reasonable cause with evidence.
It is a reasonable assumption that adding some amount of CO2 should cause some amount of additional warming when warming takes place, and which is a position that most “sceptics” take, including Dr Carter, Dr Spencer and Dr Christy.
However “evidence” of this non-natural contribution could only come from actual measurement and assigning cause. If natural fluctuations are +/-1.5C say and the temperatures stay within this range then it cannot be said definitely how much or any of the warming has been contributed by CO2. Indeed there is no need to discard the hypothesis that the warming is natural.
But the AGW hypothesis goes beyond just saying that some, perhaps insignificant, amount of warming maybe caused by anthropogenic CO2. It states that the temperatures 1. were earlier stable and 2. Will now because of the anthropogenic CO2 inexorably rise causing the ice caps to melt and sea levels to rise etc.
This is quite contrary to the null hypothesis which is temperatures rise AND FALL naturally and CO2 probably has some minor contribution in this which is however, so far, not measurable.
This null hypothesis takes into account that temperatures will eventually fall and CO2, as in the past, will be powerless to stop it.
PS – The sweater analogy is misleading. An additional extremely thin and flimsy gossamer garment on top of clothes worn by a person who occasionally freezes and feels less cold in front of a fire in Antarctica, would be a more accurate analogy.
s. wing (06:59:37) :
“I simply don’t think it is so clear-cut that the temperature data disagrees with the predictions. There are uncertainties in both and it is also understood that the temperature rise will not be monotonic from year to year. There will be fluctuations due to things such as the El Nino effect. Having a few cooler years is about as unsurprising as having a cold snap of a few days during spring time.”
Hmmm. Two things . . . .
First, Hansen’s 1988 predictions were posted here last week and you are correct, there are presented as a set of three curves and they do not show monotonic increases. Nevertheless, the three (actually, we just need two – the “high” and “low” curves — to establish a predicted range. On that basis, the recorded data are outside the predicted range which is the basis for my assertion that the prediction has failed. See these at:
http://www.climateaudit.org/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/hansen20.gif
Second, you wrote, “Having a few cooler years is about as unsurprising as having a cold snap of a few days during spring time.”
True enough. Problem is, while you increase the confidence that the actual temps will fall within the predicted range by expanding the range you reduce the utility of the prediction.
As I posted in an earlier thread, I don’t envy the warmists . . . you can’t get people to act, to willingly give up energy intensive lifestyles, absent the prediction of climate disaster but making those predictions means being held to account if they don’t materialize.
So in my opinion, this latest “we could see cooling for even a decade or more before we are back on the warming trend” or some such, is a trick! It is intended to make the theory unfalsifiable.
Temp up, temp down, temp stays the same . . . all within the predicted range, you see, the theory holds!
As I also posted in that earlier thread, imagine someone who predicts that a Roulette spin will result in a hit in the range of 00 to 36 — they would be right but it would not be of much use.
And by the way, all this is just on the issue of Hansen’s predicted temperatures and their failure to materialize. If you can provide a fact based rebuttal to that, Vincent has six more failed predictions that need to be addressed.
I am not a scientist but have done quite well in life through common sense and logic and the thing that screams at me in this whole argument is that the alarmist view has come about by use of computer models.
One of the key points of the argument is that there would be hot spots in the Troposphere over the Equator.
No evidence was found…..so it should have been hands up and back to square one.
My understanding is that Prof Roy Spencer then working for the IPCC double checked the info and organised further tests via weather balloons.
Coming up with the same lack of hotspots he changed his views and walked.
Hands up….the climate models were wrong.
The problem though is not with the self serving IPCC but the lack of objective and professional journalism to expose it.
Shurley Knot (00:43:42) :
Your ‘science’ is wrong. It doesn’t hold up under scrutiny.
So go out and enjoy the snow. Winters are getting longer. Maybe buying a snowmobile would be fun. 🙂
“Because we do not understand the reasons for these past warming events, it is not yet possible to attribute a specific proportion of the recent, smaller warming to an increase of greenhouse gases.” – IPCC 1990 report
The REASON why it was not possible to attribute a specific proportion of the recent, smaller warming to an increase of greenhouse gases is clear.
Have these PAST WARMING EVENTS been explained in subsequent IPCC reports?
Until that is done, to go into a complicated procedure attributing a specific proportion of the recent, smaller warming to an increase of greenhouse gases, is meaningless.
That is why the past warming events have been fraudulently removed in subsequent reports.
post swallowed again
This just came over the AP news… seems there are some statisticians who are on the side of the warmers. It’s going to be the battle of the statistics…
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_SCI_GLOBAL_COOLING?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
Oliver Ramsay (19:24:01) :
Sorry, I must disagree. You can suborn a process!
DaveE.
As an update, my comment to Real Climate (Bulldust (22:26:46) – see above) met with the expected fate. There is certainly one thing you can predict with 100% certainty, and that is that any well reasoned question to Real Climate forums will be bit bucketted if it does not align with their views. I am beginning to suspect that the only anti-AGW questions that appear on the site originate from the site supporters under pseudonyms, and they are written in such a way as to provide canon fodder for their arguments. Real Climate is beyond a joke.
All credit for Andy for even linking it as a resource… you know that would never be reciprocated.
geoffchambers (17:33:15) :
You say:
“Hadley’s Phil Jones recently asserted that parts of the raw data used to reconstruct their global temperature curve for the period before about 1980 cannot be provided to outsiders because it has been lost or destroyed”.
The raw data in this case can only be thermometer readings. Have they really been lost or destroyed, or is it just the method of “reconstruction” which has gone missing? In the latter case, Jones and his associates have simply shown themselves to be incompetent bunglers. In the former case, they should be immediately sacked, and then prosecuted in the civil courts.
They should be prosecuted.
Cassandra King (00:42:37) :
Ron de Haan,
With the greatest respect, the AAM Hydra cannot and will not be killed with any amount of proof.
The AAM/AGW/MMCC narrative is political in nature using a veneer of highly selected science peddled by a willing mass media, if our political leaders were truly interested in the science they would be having nothing to do with the AAM narrative, in fact the political classes are in love with the narrative because it provides a cover for their real intentions of modifying our entire social structure while stripping real power away from ordinary people.
The political classes will not give up their dreams just because of a little thing like the truth, if the truth mattered to them in the slightest most of the major disasters of late would have never been embarked upon.
Cassandra,
I agree entirely.
This has been political from the beginning.
Both sides of this equations are addressed now in an effective manner.
Watch Lord Moncton the coming week.
Przemysław Pawełczyk (01:17:11) :
P.S. I opt for carbonards. ;-)”
No, this name is already taken.
You can see a “Carbonard here: http://wordincarnate.files.wordpress.com/2009/01/fat-man-eating-burger.jpg
Sorry, you have to come up with another word.
Richard DeSousa,
No one I know disagrees that there has been a general warming trend over the last 150 years (about 0.7C). Also no one says that the last few years of little or no warming is a proven cooling trend yet. Yet the rise and fall over several previous 30 year stretches on top of a gradual overall rise show two things. (1) There has been a rise over the last 150 years. However this follows a period of unusual cold (little ice age), so should not be a surprise. (2) The average trend up may or may not continue, but it is too soon to be sure. However, the previous 30 year cycles seem to indicate that it is likely that the next 20 or so years probably will trend down, and this may or may not be followed by more rise. The statement the statisticians made were not in error, they did not know the whole story, and only saw a limited data set. The last 10 years in the set are not long enough to claim a trend yet. However, before the last 10 years of data, AGW supporters clearly stated that CO2 effects were so strong that no leveling or downward trend was possible. Now they say it is just natural variation and you need 30 years to be climate. This is purely arbitrary and not a supportable statement. The correlation between CO2 rise and temperature is not as good as temperature vs. several other parameters such as ocean long term variations and even Solar cycles.