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It has been an even more entertaining than usual couple of days in the alarmosphere. I’d been traveling the last week, doing TV station work and station surveys. While on the road I discovered through an email that I was the subject of a YouTube Video called “Climate Crock of the Week”.

The video was about my surfacestations.org project and was titled “What’s up with Watts?”. It was sad and funny at the same time, and as is typically the case with our old friends it was directed at me personally, far more than it tried substance. Equally typically, and sadly, what substance it tried turned out to be wrong. I continued on my travels, my friend Dr. Roger Pielke Sr. posted an opinion on it last week to address some of the issues.

Little did I know bizarro land awaited upon my return home.

Sitting down Saturday night, to watch the video again, detecting through its exquisite subtleties and nuance, I couldn’t help but laugh, because once again I noticed that everything reported in it was just wrong.

In fact, it probably was the worst job of fact-finding I had ever seen, which as WUWT readers know, is a bold assessment. I’ve been involved in broadcast TV news for 25 years, and have seen some really bad work from greenhorns fresh out of reporters school. This video reminded me of those. It was as if whoever put it together had never researched it, but just strung together a bunch of graphics, video, photos, and a monotone voice-over track with ad hominems liberally sprinkled for seasoning. I figured it was probably just an overzealous college student out to save the world and this was some college project. It had that air of  radical burningman quality about it.

Curiosity piqued, I inquired into just who is this climate Solon? To my surprise, he turned out to be an “independent film producer” working out of his house in Midland, MI under the name “Greenman Studio”, one Peter Sinclair, a proud graduate of Al Gore’s Climate Camp. I still figured him to be a kid and imagined his mom was yelling down into the basement “Peter that’s too loud, turn it down!”.

I also wondered if it was the same “Green Man” that had once prompted surfacestations volunteer Gary Boden to create this nifty patch:

mercury_monkey_station.jpg

This came about because my now defunct local “Alternate Weekly” had a ghost writer named “green man” who penned an unintentionally (I think) hilarious editorial about me and the www.surfacestations.org project back in 2007 in which he wrote the famous line:

“The Reverend Anthony WTF Watts and his screeching mercury monkeys…”

…in response to our daring to survey the weather stations nationwide. The “mercury” is reference to thermometers.

What was funny is that in my original story, one of my commenters posted a silly comment about well, “green stuff” and the editor of the local “Alternate Weekly” went ballistic and demanded I remove it  and gave me a stern lecture on libel. I was happy to comply not out of legal obligation but courtesy and deleted the comment.

Is this Green Man the same guy? Inquiring minds want to know.

OK back to the present. I checked my email for some correspondence from Mr. Sinclair for the past week and found none, and looked back even further to see if he had contacted me about the surfacestations project weeks before in email or in my letters pile. I found nothing and was surprised that he had made a video using my work without at least a basic request or notice.  Normally when somebody wants to publish something in another media type (that is not a blog or webpage) from the surfacestations project or my blog, they contact me and ask permission to use the items. The word normal, however, upon scrutiny really doesn’t apply here.

I’ve gotten dozens of such requests from magazines, newsletters, book publishers, and TV stations. So far, I’ve never said no to any request for such materials or copyright waivers. I’ve filled out lots of forms granting my copyright waiver for the legally skittish that need more than an email or “sure, go ahead” over the phone.

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But, in the video Mr. Sinclair produced and posted on YouTube, I noticed that he did in fact use photographs and graphics from my published book “Is The U.S. Surface Temperature Record Reliable?”.  I hold the copyright on this book. The notice for copyright is in the inside front cover.  © 2009 Surfacestations.org  All rights reserved, including the right to reproduce this report or portions thereof in any form.  ISBN 13: 978-1-934791-29-5  and ISBN 10: 1-934791-26-6.

There was also a Warner Brothers video clip from the movie “Anchorman” with a segment about the incompetent TV weatherman which I assume was added to portray me in my chosen career, and amazingly (and most amusingly) there was another video clip from the movie “The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai” which is a campy sendup of “War of the Worlds”. Interestingly in  the credits, and I know this because I happened to watch the movie about two weeks before on Showtime, there is a “John Van Vliet” listed in the credits. It made me wonder if it is the same John Van Vliet that created the “opentemp” program launched just a couple of months after I first started the surfacestations project in an attempt to derail it early on. He made the mistake of using incomplete data. More on incomplete data later.

I noted that neither clip was from the trailers you could find on YouTube and were of high quality, so maybe they were cribbed from a DVD or perhaps an Apple video download, since I recognized from the editing effects that Mr. Sinclair owns a Macintosh. WB has some pretty stringent clip licensing requirements, which I know from doing TV news and a reporter wanting once to use part of a film from WB in a special news report. WB wanted our TV station to pay, but the cost was sky high for our small TV station. They finally whittled it down to something we could afford.

Doing a little more research, I found that Mr. Sinclair does a series of animated online greeting cards, which you can see here: http://www.care2.com/ecards/bio/1023

I thought this one was funny: http://www.care2.com/send/card/0840

The description portrayed him as a pretty nice guy with an alternate minded view of the world like a lot of college students have. He is not a college student, though he has a son who is of college age, a nice Ron Paul supporter, I am told from someone who has met him. His rather conservative son, contrasts the rather left-wing eco-activist ad hominem and rhetorically unrestrained father(see here). It is almost humorous greeting card-worthy, this role reversal.

But since he had used that © symbol, Mr. Sinclair demonstrated awareness of copyright protections, having availed himself of them, e.g., here, right below his own artwork.

With knowledge of this and ad hominem attacks made on me personally, I reasonably presumed his copyright violation on my part was likely intentional. I also figured that this might be a teachable moment, as I was still thinking this is a kid just out of college since there seems to be no business website for Greenman studio in operation yet, it is still “under construction”.

http://www.greenmanstudio.com/

And, I mused, by bringing the copyright issue to his attention, I’d probably be doing him a favor, since I surmised he’d be at risk for using the film clips. I figured anybody working a business out of a house without an operating web page probably can’t afford licensing fees. No deep pockets there. I certainly have no personal beef with Mr. Sinclair, it is just the copyright issue.

But my copyright had been ignored, with evidence that Mr. Sinclair as a publisher himself using the © symbol understands copyrights, and WB’s copyright also looked like it also had been ignored. And well, lets face it, he got the facts wrong about the project and never contacted or interviewed me to get any facts from my side (more on that later). So it could hardly be defined as “journalism” and the protections that such enterprise affords for “fair use”. So I filled out the form for copyright issues on YouTube, and pressed enter.

What I expected to happen is that I’d get an angry email or blog comment from the guy, I’d suggest to him (privately) to make a couple of modifications, grant him a copyright for the factual graphics from the surfacestations project, and tell him to put his video back up on the web. End of story, lesson learned.

What I didn’t expect was the alarmosphere going into berserk overdrive.

After all, this was not yet a “weekday” which it increasingly seems to be what we call those periods when our friends lapse into said mode. It turns out that YouTube put my name and the surfacestations.org URL up on the video pane for the former video, made me a target for hatred by the “scream first, ask questions later” types.

The first hint of this started on Sunday when I got a comment on my blog. The commenter, who obviously didn’t know the difference between copyright law and constitutional law wanted to know why I had “denied free speech” to Mr. Sinclair. Of course, “free speech” protections involve state infringement and,as powerful as our friends do apparently believe I have become, neither am I the state nor was the state involved here, so the angst was yet again rather misplaced. Regardless, I also thought this a pretty odd comment. Since Mr. Sinclair still hadn’t contacted me, I paid no attention to it.

Then I began receiving more odd comments, and I’m thinking; “why are these people making a private copyright dispute their personal business?”

Here’s sampling of  a  few comments I got that never made WUWT:

“Watts you are a coward chickesh** no good dumba** weatherman hiding behind a law that you’ve irrationally applied”

“You can’t handle the TRUTH, if I were Jack Nicholson I’d kick your a**”

“Wattsup, you and your stupid picture book project are toast!”

I even got comments from “Omar” in Finland:

“Looks like your attempt to smother and censor information has fired back badly on you Mr Watts: Do you have – how you say – the cahones to explain yourself? I think not. You appear to be a child coward man.”

Censoring huh? And around the alarmosphere all sorts of curious accusations of censorship — again, with the long arm of the state nowhere to be found, this seemed to be a variant of the Tim Robbins (see also “paranoid” and “uncomprehending”) School of Crying “Censorship”. Even more bizarre, were the demands. On the “DeSmog Blog”, Kevin Grandia lambasted me for not knowing anything about law, and then demanded I email him and explain myself and my reasons for filing a copyright complaint. I’m no lawyer, but clearly giving details of a dispute to an angry third party not involved isn’t right up there with sound legal advice.

Still apparently confused that his dispute lay not with me but with YouTube or the concepts of intellectual property, when that didn’t get the required response, Mr. Grandia posted another angry column over on the Huffington Post, and made the same demand. He’s wondering why I haven’t responded directly to him.

Really.

But being that guardian of smoggy freedom, Mr. Grandia took it a step further, and, in a rather ironic follow-up to his seizing of the mantle of all that conforms to the laws, somehow located the original YouTube video and reposted it to YouTube under the “DeSmog Blog” label:

You can watch it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_0-gX7aUKk

So much for my “censorship”, feel free to view it. You see, I’ve had lots of angry criticism in the last two years, this is nothing new, so I’m not really concerned about the criticisms.

When viewing, note the graph from NCDC in the video which “proves” my surfacestations project is (choose your own derogatory word). More on that momentarily.

The alarmosphere was reaching a tipping point. I knew it was only a matter of time before somebody would blog the coup de grace, and yet; I still haven’t heard from Mr. Sinclair so I could tell him about what I’d like changed.

OK. But if Mr. Sinclair had contacted me (like a journalist would) before he made his video, instead of simply reading the NCDC Talking points memo (revised version seen here, PDF) he could have found out a few things, such as:

  • NCDC used an old outdated version of my data set (April 2008) they found on my website and assumed it was “current”. Big mistake on their part. Big admission of not overly concerning himself with first-hand knowledge, or even substance, on his part.
  • NCDC did not contact me about use of the data. The data, BTW is not yet public domain, though I plan to make it so after I’ve published my paper. So like Mr. Sinclair, technically they are also in violation of copyright. Surfacestations is a private project, I emphasize, what with the public-private concept being one of the major precipitors of the alarmosphere’s angst.
  • That data NCDC found had not been quality controlled, many of the ratings changed after quality control was applied, thus changing the outcome.
  • When notified of this, they did nothing to deal with the issue, such as notifying readers.
  • NCDC published no methodology, data or formula used, or show work of any kind that would normally be required in a scientific paper.
  • The author is missing from the document thus it was published anonymously. Apparently nobody at NCDC would put his or her name on it.
  • When notified of the fact that the author’s name Thomas C. Peterson (of NCDC) was embedded in the properties of the PDF document (which happens on registration of the Adobe Acrobat program, causing insertion in all output), NCDC’s only response was to remove the author’s name from the document and place it back online. It is odd behavior for a scientist to publish work but not put your name on it.
  • NCDC got the number of USHCN stations wrong in their original document document graph, citing 1228 when it is actually 1218 I notified them of this and they eventually fixed it.
  • That NCDC original document did not even cite my published work,  or even use my name to credit me. I have the original which you can view here Note also the name in the document properties and the number of USHCN2 stations above the graph.

I’m regularly lambasted for publishing things here that are not “peer reviewed”. But, when NCDC does it, and does it unbelievably badly, not only is the “talking points memo” embraced by the alarmosphere as “truth” and “falsification”, but NOT ONE of those embracing it show the remotest interest in questioning why it fails to meet even the basic standards for a letter to the editor of a local newspaper.

My own local paper wouldn’t publish a letter or memo where the author is not identified. Yet an anonymous NCDC memo the author won’t even own up to is considered “climate truth”.

Students of the alarmists may have noticed some time ago, how the burden of proof and quality of publication shifts when the other side of the aisle is doing the talking.  In fact, nobody who has jumped into the fray has asked me any questions, yet take as accurate our gift-card designer cum climate scientist Mr. Sinclair at his word, without asking me a single question.

I guess it doesn’t matter now, The Good Ship Teachable Moment has sailed, now that “Big Smog” has stepped in as the defender of freedom. I think Mr. Grandia is hoping that I’ll file a copyright complaint against him.

But here is the kicker. Once you sort through all the ad homs in the video, you find the nugget. It involves that graph that Mr. Sinclair cites from the NCDC Talking Points Memo. If he had asked, he would have found out that it has some pretty embarrassing flaws.

Figure 1. From the NCDC Talking Points Memo.

As referenced in the text of the NCDC  Talking Points Memo, the Figure1 graph compares two homogenized data sets, and demonstrates an uncanny correlation. Here is what they say:

Two national time series were made using the same homogeneity adjusted data set and the same gridding and area averaging technique used by NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center for its annual climate monitoring.

Seems reasonable, until you understand what “homgenization” really is.

What’s “homogenization” you say? Some kind of dairy product treatment?

Well no, not quite. It is data that has been put through a series of processes that render it so the end result is like comparing the temperature between several bowls of water that have been mixed together, then poured back into the original bowls and the temperature measured of each. What you get is an end temperature for each bowl that is a mixture of the other nearby bowl temperatures.

Here’s another way that is more visual. Think of it like measuring water pollution. Here’s a simple visual table of CRN station quality ratings (as used in my book) and what they might look like as water pollution turbidity levels, rated as 1 to 5 from best to worst turbidity:

CRN1-bowlCRN2-bowlCRN3-bowl

CRN4-bowlCRN5-bowl

In homgenization the data is weighted against the nearby neighbors within a radius. And so a station the might start out as a “1” data wise, might end up getting polluted with the data of nearby stations and end up as as new value, say weighted at “2.5”. Our contributing author John Goetz explains how even single stations can affect many many other stations in the GISS and NOAA data homogenization methods carried out on US surface temperature data here and here.

bowls-USmap

In the map above, applying a homogenization smoothing, weighting  stations by distance nearby the stations with question marks, what would you imagine the values (of turbidity) of them would be? And, how close would these two values be for the east coast station in question and the west coast station in question? Each would be closer to a smoothed center average value based on the neighboring stations. Of course this isn’t the actual method, just a visual analogy.

So, essentially, NCDC’s graph is comparing homogenized data to homogenized data, and thus there would not likely be any large difference between “good” and “bad” stations. All the differences have been smoothed out by homogenization  pollution from neighboring stations!

The best way to compare the effect of siting between groups of stations is to use the “raw” data, before it has passed through the multitude of adjustments that NCDC does. Admittedly, raw data can have its own problems, but there are ways my friends and I at the Pielke research team can make valid station trend comparisons without making numerical adjustments to the actual data raw data.

And finally for those who say “Watts doesn’t want you to see this video” or “he fears the science”, I direct you to this WUWT entry, dated June 26th, 2009:

NCDC writes ghost “talking points” rebuttal to surfacestations project

I was the first one to report on the NCDC Talking Points Memo. Fearing science, video and all that, I chose to publicly blog on a subject critical and even damaging to my own research, knowing full well others would pick it up, including those who would not treat this even-handedness kindly.

The document is an internal memo for NOAA. It didn’t get wide attention after it was first published on June 9th, in fact I don’t think it got any attention at all.

Without my pulling it out of internal memo obscurity and discussing it on WUWT, Dr. Pielke likely wouldn’t have commented on it, McIntyre wouldn’t have written about ittwice, and thus from all the pickups from those articles, Mr. Sinclair probably wouldn’t have ever seen it. Surely there would not be this delightfully entertaining, rather revealing, and grade school caliber commentary had I not sought to publish it to a wide audience.

But that’s OK. The result is not something I fear, even if my final analysis shows the USA trends are unaffected. There are other things we know and will learn that are of significance.

In fact I’ve had some very positive things come out of this, both on the media and scientific side. Some offers and ideas have been floated.

But that’s a story that will have to wait. Maybe Mr. Grandia will place an online demand for it. Stay tuned. They rarely disappoint.

Oh, and I got to “meet” Mr. Sinclair, the father of a college-age kid though not quite  the young college kid I expected:

On Climate, Comedy, Copyrights, and CinematographyThe good news: there’s new and exciting opportunities opening themselves to us.The bad news; some people are hilariously unquestioning.

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It has been an even more entertaining than usual couple of days in the alarmosphere. I’d been traveling the last week, doing TV station work and station surveys. While on the road I discovered through an email that I was the subject of a YouTube Video called “Climate Crock of the Week”.

The video was about my surfacestations.org project and was titled “What’s up with Watts?”. It was sad and funny at the same time, and as is typically the case with our old friends it was directed at me personally, far more than it tried substance. Equally typically, and sadly, what substance it tried turned out to be wrong. I continued on my travels, My friend Dr. Roger Pielke Sr. posted an opinion on it last week to address some of the issues.

Little did I know bizarro land awaited upon my return home.

Sitting down Saturday night, to watch the video again detecting through its exquisite subtleties and nuance. I couldn’t help but laugh, because once again I noticed that everything reported in it was just wrong.

In fact, it probably was the worst job of fact-finding I had ever seen, which as WUWT readers know, is a bold assessment. I’ve been involved in broadcast TV news for 25 years, and have seen some really bad work from greenhorns fresh out of reporters school. This video reminded me of those. It was if whoever put it together had never researched it, but just strung together a bunch of graphics, video, photos, and the most monotone Pat Paulsen narration I’d ever heard. I figured it was probably just an overzealous college student out to save the world and this was some college project. It had that air of  radical burningman quality about it.

Curiosity piqued, I inquired into just who is this climate Solon? To my surprise, he turned out to be an “independent film producer” working out of his house in Midland, MI under the name “Greenman Studio”, one Peter Sinclair, a proud graduate of Al Gore’s Climate Camp. I still figured him to be a kid and imagined his mom was yelling down into the basement “Peter that’s too loud, turn it down!”.

I also wondered if it was the same “Green Man” that had once prompted surfacestations volunteer Gary Boden to create this nifty patch:

mercury_monkey_station.jpg

This came about because my now defunct local “Alternate Weekly” had a ghost writer named “green man” who penned and unintentionally (I think) editorial about me and the www.surfacestations.org project back in 2007 in which he wrote the famous line:

“The Reverend Anthony WTF Watts and his screeching mercury monkeys…”

…in response to our daring to survey the weather stations nationwide.

What was funny is that in my original story, one of my commenters posted a funny comment about well, “green stuff” and the editor of the local “Alternate Weekly” went ballistic and demanded I remove it  and gave me a stern lecture on libel. I was happy to comply not out of legal obligation but courtesy and deleted the comment.

Is this Green Man the same guy? Inquiring minds want to know.

OK back to the present. I checked my email for some correspondence from Mr. Sinclair for the past week and found none, and looked back even further to see if he had contacted me about the surfacestations project weeks before in email or in my letters pile. I found nothing and was surprised that he had made a video using my work without at least a basic request or notice.  Normally when somebody wants to publish something in another media type (that is not a blog or webpage) from the surfacestations project or my blog, they contact me and ask permission to use the items. The word normal, however, upon scrutiny really doesn’t apply here.

I’ve gotten dozens of such requests from magazines, newsletters, book publishers, and TV stations. So far, I’ve never said no to any request for such materials or copyright waivers. I’ve filled out lots of forms granting my copyright waiver for the legally skittish that need more than an email or “sure, go ahead” over the phone.

But, in the video Mr. Sinclair produced and posted on YouTube, I noticed that he did in fact use photographs and graphics from my published book “Is The U.S. Surface Temperature Record Reliable?”.  I hold the copyright on this book. The notice for copyright is in the inside front cover.  © 2009 Surfacestations.org  All rights reserved, including the right to reproduce this report or portions thereof in any form.  ISBN 13: 978-1-934791-29-5  and ISBN 10: 1-934791-26-6.

There was also a Warner Brothers video clip from the movie “Anchorman” with a segment about the incompetent TV weatherman which I assume was added to portray me in my chosen career, and amazingly (and most amusingly) there was another video clip from the movie “The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai” which is a campy sendup of “War of the Worlds”. Interestingly in  the credits, and I know this because I happened to watch the movie about two weeks before on Showtime, there is a “John Van Vliet” listed in the credits. It made me wonder if it is the same John Van Vliet that created the “opentemp” program launched just a couple of months after I first started the surfacestations project in an attempt to derail it early on. He made the mistake of using incomplete data. More on incomplete data later.

I noted that neither clip was from the trailers you could find on YouTube and were of high quality, so maybe they were cribbed from a DVD or perhaps an Apple video download, since I recognized from the editing effects that Mr. Sinclair owns a Macintosh. WB has some pretty stringent clip licensing requirements, which I know from doing TV news and a reporter wanting once to use part of a film from WB in a special news report. WB wanted our TV station to pay, but the cost was sky high for our small TV station. They finally whittled it down to something we could afford.

Doing a little more research, I found that Mr. Sinclair does a series of animated online greeting cards, which you can see here:

http://www.care2.com/ecards/bio/1023

I thought this one was pretty funny: http://www.care2.com/send/card/0840

The description portrayed him as a pretty nice guy with an alternate minded view of the world like a lot of college students have. He is not a college student, though he has a son who is of college age, a nice Ron Paul supporter, I am told from someone who has met him. His rather conservative son, contrasts the rather left-wing eco-activist ad hominem and rhetorically unrestrained father(see here). It is almost humorous greeting card-worthy, this role reversal.

But since he had used that © symbol, Mr. Sinclair demonstrated awareness of copyright protections, having availed himself of them, e.g., here, right below his own artwork.  With knowledge of this and ad hominem attacks made on me personally, I reasonably presumed his copyright violation on my part was likely intentional. I also figured that this might be a teachable moment, as I was still thinking this is a kid just out of college since there seems to be no business website for Greenman studio in operation yet, it is still “under construction”.

http://www.greenmanstudio.com/

And, I mused, by bringing the copyright issue to his attention, I’d probably be doing him a favor, since I surmised he’d be at risk for using the film clips. I figured anybody working a business out of a house without an operating web page probably can’t afford licensing fees. No deep pockets there. I certainly have no personal beef with Mr. Sinclair, it is just the copyright issue.

But my copyright had been ignored, with evidence that Mr. Sinclair as a publisher himself using the © symbol understands copyrights, and WB’s copyright also looked like it also had been ignored. And well, lets face it, he got the facts wrong about the project and never contacted or interviewed me to get any facts from my side (more on that later). So it could hardly be defined as “journalism” and the protections that such enterprise affords for “fair use”. So I filled out the form for copyright issues on YouTube, and pressed enter.

What I expected to happen is that I’d get an angry email or blog comment from the guy, I’d suggest to him (privately) to make a couple of modifications, grant him a copyright for the factual graphics from the surfacestations project, and tell him to put his video back up on the web. End of story, lesson learned.

What I didn’t expect was the alarmosphere going into berserk overdrive. After all, this was not yet a “weekday” which it increasingly seems to be what we call those periods when our friends lapse into said mode. It turns out that YouTube put my name and the surfacestations.org URL up on the video pane for the former video, made me a target for hatred by the “scream first, ask questions later” types.

The first hint of this started on Sunday when I got a comment on my blog. The commenter, who obviously didn’t know the difference between copyright law and constitutional law wanted to know why I had “denied free speech” to Mr. Sinclair. Of course, “free speech” protections involve state infringement and,as powerful as our friends do apparently believe I have become, neither am I the state nor was the state involved here, so the angst was yet again rather misplaced. Regardless, I also thought it this a pretty odd comment, since Mr. Sinclair still hadn’t contacted me, and I paid no attention to it.

Then I began receiving more odd comments, and I’m thinking; “why are these people making a private copyright dispute their personal business?”

Here’s sampling of  a  few comments I got that never made WUWT:

“Watts you are a coward chickesh** no good dumba** weatherman hiding behind a law that you’ve irrationally applied”

“You can’t handle the TRUTH, if I were Jack Nicholson I’d kick your a**”

“Wattsup, you and your stupid picture book project are toast!”

I even got comments from “Omar” in Finland:

“Looks like your attempt to smother and censor information has fired back badly on you Mr Watts: Do you have – how you say – the cahones to explain yourself? I think not. You appear to be a child coward man.”

And around the alarmosphere all sorts of curious accusations of censorship — again, with the long arm of the state nowhere to be found, this seemed to be a variant of the Tim Robbins (see also “paranoid” and “uncomprehending”) School of Crying “Censorship”. Even more bizarre, were the demands. On the “DeSmog Blog”, Kevin Grandia lambasted me for not knowing anything about law, and then demanded I email him and explain myself and my reasons for filing a copyright complaint. I’m no lawyer, but clearly giving details of a dispute to an angry third party not involved isn’t right up there with sound legal advice.

Still apparently confused that his dispute lay not with me but with YouTube or the concepts of intellectual property, when that didn’t get the required response, Mr. Grandia posted another angry column over on the Huffington Post, and made the same demand. He’s wondering why I haven’t responded directly to him.

Really.

But being that guardian of smoggy freedom, Mr. Grandia took it a step further, and, in a rather ironic follow-up to his seizing of the mantle of all that conforms to the laws, somehow located the original YouTube video and reposted it to YouTube under the “DeSmog Blog” label:

You can watch it here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_0-gX7aUKk

Note the graph from NCDC in the video which “proves” my surfacestations project is (choose your own derogatory word). More on that momentarily.

The alarmosphere was reaching a tipping point. I knew it was only a matter of time before somebody would blog the coup de grace, and yet; I still haven’t heard from Mr. Sinclair so I could tell him about what I’d like changed.

OK Nut if Mr. Sinclair had contacted me (like a journalist would) before he made his video, instead of simply reading the NCDC Talking points memo (seen here, PDF) he could have found out a few things, such as:

  • NCDC used an old outdated version of my data set (April 2008) they found on my website and assumed it was “current”. Big mistake on their part. Big admission of not overly concerning himself with first-hand knowledge, or even substance, on his part.
  • NCDC did not contact me about use of the data. The data, BTW is not yet public domain, though I plan to make it so after I’ve published my paper. So like Mr. Sinclair, technically they are also in violation of copyright. Surfacestations is a private project, I emphasize, what with the public-private concept being one of the major precipitors of the alarmosphere’s angst.
  • That data NCDC found had not been quality controlled, many of the ratings changed after quality control was applied, thus changing the outcome.
  • When notified of this, they did nothing to deal with the issue, such as notifying readers.
  • NCDC published no methodology, data or formula used, or show work of any kind that would normally be required in a scientific paper.
  • The author is missing from the document thus it was published anonymously. Apparently nobody at NCDC would put his or her name on it.
  • When notified of the fact that the author’s name Thomas C. Peterson (of NCDC) was embedded in the properties of the PDF document (which happens on registration of the Adobe Acrobat program, causing insertion in all output), NCDC’s only response was to remove the author’s name from the document.
  • NCDC got the number of USHCN stations wrong in their original document document graph, citing 1228 when it is actually 1218 I notified them of this and they eventually fixed it.
  • That NCDC original document did not even cite my published work,  or even use my name to credit me. I have the original which you can view here Note also the name in the document properties and the number of USHCN2 stations above the graph.

I’m regularly lambasted for publishing things here that are not “peer reviewed”, but when NCDC does it, and does it unbelievably badly, not only is the “talking points memo” embraced by the alarmosphere as “truth” and “falsification”. Not ONE of those embracing it show the remotes interest in questioning why it fails to meet even the basic standards for a letter to the editor of a local newspaper. My own local paper wouldn’t publish a letter or memo where the author is not identified. Yet an anonymous memo the author won’t even own up to is considered climate truth.

Students of the alarmists may have noticed some time ago, how the burden of proof and quality of publication shifts when the other side of the aisle is doing the talking.  In fact nobody who has jumped into the foray has asked me any questions, yet take our gift-card designer cum climate scientist Mr. Sinclair at his word that what he reported, without asking me a single question, is accurate.

I guess it doesn’t matter now, The Good Ship Teachable Moment has sailed, now that “Big Smog” has stepped in as the defender of freedom. I think Mr. Grandia is hoping that I’ll file a copyright complaint against him.

But here is the kicker. It involves that graph that Mr. Sinclair cites from the NCDC Talking Points Memo. If he had asked, he would have found this out.

Figure 1. From Talking Points Memo.

As referenced in the text of the Talking Points Memo, the NCDC graph compares two homogenized data sets. What’s that you say? Some kind of dairy product?

Well no, not quite. It is data that has been put through a series of processes that render it

such that end result is like comparing the temperature of several bowls of water

[need work here and diagram to explain homgenization of data]

And finally for those who say “Watts doesn’t want you to see this video” or “he fears the science”, I direct you to this WUWT entry, dated June 26th, 2009:

NCDC writes ghost “talking points” rebuttal to surfacestations project

I was the first one to report on the NCDC Talking Points Memo. Fearing science, video and all that, I chose to publicly blog on a subject critical and even damaging to my own research, knowing full well others would pick it up, including those who would not treat this even-handedness kindly.

The document is an internal memo for NOAA. It didn’t get wide attention after it was first published on June 9th, in fact I don’t think it got any attention at all.

Without my pulling it out of internal memo obscurity and discussing it on WUWT, Pielke likely wouldn’t have commented on it, McIntyre wouldn’t have written about ittwice, and thus from all the pickups from those articles, Mr. Sinclair probably wouldn’t have ever seen it. Surely there would not be this delightfully entertaining, rather revealing, and grade school caliber commentary had I not sought to publish it to a wide audience.

But that’s OK. The result is not something I fear, even if it shows the trends are unaffected. There’s other things we know and will learn.

In fact I’ve had some very positive things come out of this both on the media and scientific side. Some offer and ideas have been floated.

But that’s a story that will have to wait. Maybe Mr. Grandia will place an online demand for it. Stay tuned. They rarely disappoint.

Oh, and I got to “meet” Mr. Sinclair, the father of a college-age kid though not quite the young college kid I expected:

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wilbert Robichaud
August 1, 2009 10:32 pm

“when they inform the world that none of the papers on the forum that published His Paper, were peer reviewed? ”
wrong ! here is one of them.
Peer-Review Papers Supporting Skeptism of “Man-Made” Global Warming:
http://www.springerlink.com/content/k77xr06628851331/

Paul K
August 1, 2009 10:35 pm

I am a bit lost here… I told you I was astonished that you responded to my email complaining of censorship on WUWT, in which I referenced how links to the Sinclair video “disappeared” without even a snip to indicate editing. When you attempted to block the Sinclair video, and put this post up explaining, I have tried repeatedly over the last two days to comment.
If my comments were really and truly not accepted because of technical problems, or something I did wrong in submitting them, then I apologize for the Gestapo HQ comment.
When I made the comment, I thought I was being blackballed because I knew something about why you seem to be targeting Sinclair.
REPLY: Better, though not very sincere, since it is a conditional apology.
The spam filter here like any computer program is imperfect, so are moderators as they are human. There are hundreds of combination that can set you into the spam filter. We get hundreds of spams per day, viagra, pron, you name it. sometimes it is hard to wade through it all. Sometime comments get lost in the sea of garbage. I’ve accidentally deleted valid comments myself and seen them scroll by as the spam deletion occurs.
Plus the spam filter “learns” based on patterns.
Now the next thing you need to clear up (and please do so concisely, demonstrate a link or quote) is show me EXACTLY where I have defended and supported Monckton on the Smith issue. As I said, until you mentioned it tonight, I have never known about it. With 150,000 comments now on this blog, I don’t read each and every one, especially if approved by another moderator.
You are making a claim against me personally that is erroneous and harmful to me. You need to clearly show where I said what you claim. Simple posting of articles on WUWT that were newsworthy at the time due to the volatile issue with APS does not equate to my support or endorsement for Monckton using Smith’s paper.
And with thousands of deleted spambot comments also if anyone expects perfection or 100% comment throughput here, then sorry, we can’t promise that. – Anthony

theduke
August 1, 2009 11:02 pm

It is ironic that a person so fueled by his resentments and so driven by a fanatic belief in AGW could accuse Anthony’s site of being “Gestapo HQ.”
Get a grip, Paul K. If you truly want to help your cause, why not argue about the validity of the science of AGW and not the politics that have arisen from the science? Is it because you have no understanding of the science?

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August 1, 2009 11:55 pm

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Paul K
August 2, 2009 12:22 am

Anthony, I am surprised you were not aware of Monckton’s peculiar behavior last year, even as you repeatedly attacked his treatment by APS. I commented on this over and over again, as well as other commentators, and WUWT regulars like Smokey and others were aware of the issue, and commented on it.
Starting on July 17 and through August 6 last year, WUWT had five posts discussing Monckton’s analysis in his letter to the APS. All five posts, either complained of Monckton’s treatment by the APS, or attempted to defend Monckton’s analysis. The effort was unsuccessful, as Monckton’s paper was torn apart by numerous scientists.
One of the key critics was Arthur Smith who wrote a rebuttal response, and submitted it for publication. When Monckton published his courtesy copy of Smith’s analysis on a website, the analysis became public. The paper is still at that site today, still in violation of Smith’s request to remove references to his employer.
http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/images/stories/papers/monckton/monckton_rebutted.pdf
The analysis in Smith’s paper was discussed and referenced at Real Climate and other science sites on the web, and the information was discussed in comments at WUWT.
The unprofessional behavior of Monckton was also discussed starting with a comment from me on August 2nd, well after the controversy with Smith had broken. By the time comments finished on the August 6 post, there were 41 comments, and I was chastised for posting too many (five) of the comments. My comments discussed the problems with Monckton’s behavior, and summarized the criticisms of Monckton’s work.
It is difficult to see how anyone who followed Monckton’s paper and the aftermath, and who cared about his analysis could have missed being aware of Smith’s rebuttal, especially since Monckton himself drew so much attention to it. I guess someone who would be particularly uninformed, or ignorant of the science, could have missed the discussion.
I really thought you knew more about the discussions of scientists about the posts you make, so I am very surprised you didn’t know about and understand any of this. Given your repeated strident and strong defense of Monckton, I believed you knew about what Monckton was doing, and was cognizant of the important issues. I apparently have been mistaken.
But since you were completely ignorant of the scientific discourse both at WUWT and other sites (Real Climate etc.), then you completely missed the controversy of Monckton’s inappropriate actions. I believed you were defending Monckton in spite of his transgressions, especially after your readers here talked so much about the issue.
You now seem to be making the case that you don’t support Monckton’s cavalier disregard of copyright law, and plagiarism ethics, since you didn’t know about it. In that case, we should give you the benefit of the doubt, and I leave it to the readers here to make that decision.
I won’t raise this issue again here, but I don’t think your blind support for Monckton in this matter, will be forgotten.
REPLY: Have you ever wondered why Monckton’s climate sensitivity paper was never posted here in toto? (it was offered) It is because I don’t agree with one of the graphs in it. See Lucia on that subject as I sought her advice. That does not mean that I disagree with his entire premise, but with one graph that that needs rework. However the APS issue was as I reported it, a news item, that is all, and I never concerned myself with the details beyond what coming up as news at the time. He was invited to submit, they threw up a caveat never before done, it seemed arbitrary and unfair. That was my view.
If he made his written presentation include another paper or portions thereof without permission, or used without citation, then no, for the record, I don’t support that. Had I known about it, I certainly would have taken another tack.
For example, if such fairness in citation and copyright is truly your cause, I didn’t see you complain about the NOAA Talking Points Memo that in its original form, didn’t even cite my published work along with the other citations at the bottom. I had to fight for that. They did revise it, as referenced above in the body of this post. The whole issue that ends up in Sinclair’s lap was started by the same sort of unprofessional behavior that you point out about Monckton, but is my treatment at the hands of NCDC. At least Monckton showed some work and put his name on it. NCDC’s was a hatchet job with no author designed to discredit my work and they simply didn’t care about professional courtesy.
Paul K here is the challenge to you: Since you made no comments here or elsewhere (that I know of) disagreeing with NCDC on that issue on using my work uncredited, and without even asking for permission of data use (or even checking to see if they had the current version), am I then to assume that you support their use of my paper and my data without proper permission and citation? I must assume then that you do support their use without citation since we’ve heard nothing from you. I am surprised you haven’t commented on this to be true to your argument. You surely must be aware of it, since you are posting in the comments where the article makes it a bullet point, and before and after documents are presented.
See how easy it it to fall into the trap you set?
Given the huge amount of traffic here, I’m not an all-seeing eye, especially during workdays. I still have to give priority to my business and whole conversations happen here and at other blogs without my involvement. I don’t take kindly to your language of “I guess someone who would be particularly uninformed, or ignorant of the science, could have missed the discussion.” That’s really a cheap shot.
Sometimes when there’s an issue here or elsewhere that needs my attention, someone will leave a direct note or email. Part of my routine to save time is to check for those. In this case the Smith issue never rose to my attention nor did anyone flag it for me that I am aware of. I wish somebody had.
I was unaware of it until tonight. And, that is the truth. All that can be said is that I published the news items on APS and Monckton and supported the view that the caveat on Monckton was unusual, irregular, and improperly applied. That’s what I reported on.
In light of your own failure to comment on my nearly identical situation where my work was used without my knowledge, permission, or originally even a citation by NCDC, are you prepared to defend me?
Thus I would appreciate it if you’d retract your statements here and elsewhere that say I supported Monckton on the Smith citation issue. I think if you are truly a gentleman and interested in fairness you’ll do that. Your treatment of this either way will long be remembered.
In other news, reports of my evilness are highly exaggerated. 😉
Anthony
FOLLOW UP: This suggestion that I was indifferent to the issue (or even embraced it) was bothering me and I just doubled checked. Paul K your complaint is WAY offbase. Here is the original APS article thread I posted:
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/07/19/american-physical-society-and-monckton-at-odds-over-paper/
…and here is a screencap at the end showing when PaulK enters the fray.
Notice the date and timestamp. The thread effectively ended on 7/24/08, and then within the afternoon of 8/02/09, nine days later has the next comment by “paulK” where he lists the issue that he accuses me of being indifferent to. It was posted at 1:24 PM Friday afternoon. A workday for me. Typically I’m at lunch later than my staff becuase I cover the phones while they leave. Very likely then I was not online and another moderator approved this. Unfortunately I don’t have a log file of that day.
So the problem here is that PaulK entered a comment on a dead thread very late, nine days later, another moderator approved it, the renewed conversation lasted only a short time, and it was NEVER brought to my attention. I also don’t read Deltoid, and hardly ever read RC. I just don’t like the way they treat people. So yes I missed it. Does that make me “…someone who would be particularly uninformed, or ignorant of the science, could have missed the discussion.” as you assert?
No, shit happens, Things break, important details sometimes get lost. If you really thought it important, why didn’t you ask a moderator to bring it to my attention? Easy to do.
I really think PaulK, that you should retract your baseless accusations about me. If you are truly interested in fairness, please demonstrate it. I’ve wasted several hours on investigating your whining. Show me it was worth it. – Anthony

Reply to  Paul K
August 2, 2009 3:49 am

I deleted at least one of Paul K’s posts and invited him to resubmit without using prohibited language. I’m tired of editing such posts and will tend more to delete them in the future, especially from those whose only agenda is to heap abuse. I may have deleted more if the tone was over the top.
I go out of my way to approve and even defend serious debaters such as Joel Shore, Phil., and others even when I may disagree with their point of view, but Paul K adds very little to the discussion, and so gets less slack than I may give to other commenters, such as those mentioned above.
Is that 100% objective criteria, no. But people around here both earn and give up their privileges by their own behavior.
~ ctm

Brandon Dobson
August 2, 2009 2:14 am

Welcome to the big time, Anthony.
This is how it will be from now on. Such is the price to be paid for all disruptive technologies.
Be proud.

A. Tober
August 2, 2009 2:43 am

Since this is about presenting science with integrity I need to tell you about a contibution to your site which still pops up when I google WUWT. The one where Stephen Goddard (http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/04/09/wuwt-ice-survey-shows-thickening-arctic-ice) shows under the headline “WUWT survey shows thickening arctic ice” that ice is getting thicker in winter (who says it isn’t?) and in his haste to claim large thickness for the ice counts a good metre of air as ice even when it is clearly above the melting point of sea ice or indeed any water ice at all. Letting such unthought through stuff ‘entertain the troops’ on your site does weaken your claims to want to stick to the science and not let the screamers do their thing when they take your side.
REPLY: Yes Goddard didn’t do himself any favors with that one. I’ll have another look. – Anthony

Rob
August 2, 2009 2:44 am

Hey Anthony!
that fellow…Mr. Sinclair..He talks with his eyes closed.
Ref. “South Park, season 10 episod 2, Smug Alert”

TJA
August 2, 2009 5:01 am

“Your attempt to marginalize cable news, and especially Fox news is falling short” – Basil
Well, let’s see now, the politically aware watch it? I guess that your attempt to marginalize Fox News is falling short too. I would say that you moved the goal posts on the original comment, however. Fine, lets go to this new goalpost:
“Obama isn’t obsessed with Fox without a reason. Among viewers with “high political knowledge” cable networks are favored two to one over network TV news:”
If someone has “high political knowledge”, there is a pretty good chance that that viewer gets a lot of news from other sources, such as the internet, and reads newspapers from The Guardian to the Dallas Morning News regularly. Which, once again undercuts Nevin’s point that Fox is a propaganda outlet responsible for the war in Iraq, for example. If Katie Couric had asked me what newspapers I read every day, like she did of Sarah Palin, my answer would have been the similar, “All of them, whatever is interesting that day.”

Evan Jones
Editor
August 2, 2009 7:42 am

The moderator must not have gotten the memo from “Gestapo HQ”.
I must object to that statement. The moderators operate on a basis of trust.
And both the “HQ” and the cops on the beat around here are about as unfascist as it gets.

Paul K
August 2, 2009 10:06 am

Anthony, I read your responses above, and they contradict each other.
Notice the date and timestamp. The thread effectively ended on 7/24/08, and then within the afternoon of 8/02/09, nine days later has the next comment by “paulK” where he lists the issue that he accuses me of being indifferent to. It was posted at 1:24 PM Friday afternoon. A workday for me.
Then a few posts later:
You’ll notice it was lightly commented, 41 comments. You made a comment where you called me out by name questioning a headline . I didn’t see it.
Why? Again look at the time stamp: Paul K (00:46:25)
12:46AM PST 08/07/2008 Friday morning, a workday for me. I have to be up at at them at 7AM

Please notice these two posts are separated by a work week, and the first post was actually on a Saturday, and the second on a Thursday, but not as you indicate.
I came to WUWT on August 2 because I had followed your first three posts defending Monckton and criticizing the APS. I posted a comment on your most recent post asking why Monckton wasn’t being criticized for his unprofessional behavior in attacking his editor and publishing the Smith rebuttal without approval. By then all the sites I had read about the Monckton-APS flap, were aware that Monckton had gone ballistic, posting comments like “Stuff It Smith” and “Stuff It Schmidt”.
Four days later, on August 6th, WUWT put up yet another post defending Monckton’s analysis. On the comments on that post (only 41 comments), I commented several times on Monckton’s peculiar behavior, and there was a round-robin of comments from WUWT regulars over the next few days.
Bottom line, is that Monckton clearly violated copyright laws, not to mention a professional code of ethics. His supporters went to a critic’s employer to get the critic silenced or reprimanded, even though his work was a private individual effort. And although this was widely discussed and known by real climate scientists, you continued to post supporting Monckton.
In my next comment, I will contrast this with your attack on Sinclair’s videos.

REPLY: Yes I made a mistake on the day, It and confused the dates. Weariness after 2AM. Weariness now. The fact is though you posted on that thread 9 days after it ceased to have any meaningful activity.
And I’ve stated clearly that I was never aware of your post on the Smith issue until last night, and shown why. You will of course draw your own conclusions based on your own biases while rejecting my information, since it is contrary to your mission. Since you have no sense of fair play, and your only purpose here is to denigrate me on your terms, my terms are to stop tolerating your abuse here. Since you accept nothing from me, choosing only to follow your bias, your welcome is expired. – Anthony

P Walker
August 2, 2009 10:19 am

Hats off to everyone working here at WUWT . I admire your patience and tolerance .

Paul K
August 2, 2009 10:22 am

[snip – This is a private email between you and me. I’m not interested in discussing it here, even though you are.]
My question: Does the Heartland report (authored by you) exist? A picture of the cover is shown in the video.
Since you allowed Heartland to publish your report, then commentators should be allowed to comment on the accuracy of the material in the report. Sinclair did nothing wrong from my viewpoint.
Regarding the NOAA report, it was published on a NOAA website, so again Peter Sinclair should be allowed to reference and discuss it in his video.
Your attempt to block and squelch the Sinclair video on copyright grounds doesn’t seem well thought out.
REPLY: I have a published and bound book, with Copyright, clearly stated. Book numbers are: ISBN 13: 978-1-934791-29-5 and ISBN 10: 1-934791-26-6. Commentary is one thing, use of the graphic materials and use of my data set by NCDC is something else. I’ve stated my issues. If you are unhappy with that I’m not concerned. I’m not going to discuss it further since my business with him is none of yours. All further posts from you on this subject will be deleted.
You’ve had your say, here and elsewhere, and you’ve already made your conclusions, and you reject any new information. It is pointless to tolerate your abuse further.
– Anthony

Gary Pearse
August 2, 2009 10:42 am

Anthony, re Paul K and others like him:
I think PaulK has taken up enough space over one issue. I can’t recall the other thread a few weeks ago where another wordy and insulting fellow wrote several dozen exceedingly long posts with all mashed potatoes and no meat: indeed he occupied perhaps more than 50% of that particular discussion and engaged smart people who usually have much more pithy stuff to offer in a boring-back-and-forth. I think as the AGW-CO2 balloon degasses, that this tactic is going to become more common. You will remember (sorry no link) that AGWers were being coached by advertising strategists on what words to use and what words to avoid – indeed the Madison Ave advisors may well have come up with the metamorphosis of the issue to “Climate Change” and a suggestion to use only the fahrenheit degree scale because it made the temperature rises look double. In any case, this new tactic of burying discussion is likely to increase as the dying beast kicks up dust clouds.
REPLY: I agree, Paul K’s mission is denigration – he’s no longer welcome since he accepts nothing anyone says here and heaps on abuse like his “Gestapo” comment when things don’t go his way. – Anthony

Paul K
August 2, 2009 10:47 am

evanmjones and P Walker… I have two comments in “limbo” right now. I don’t know whether they ever will appear. It is frustrating, especially since Mr. Watts challenged me to respond above. My comments are being reviewed and sometimes censored (or worse, modified) because the information they contain contradicts or refutes WUWT published information.
I think you should question whether this site really has comments that represent a fair and balanced view of the topics being discussed.
REPLY: Your posts are below. I set them to hold so I could review them since they are direct response to me and you have been abusive using terms like “Gestapo”. I do have a life, I don’t sit breathlessly in front of the PC awaiting your next comment. I think you should question yourself. – Anthony

Thomas J. Arnold.
August 2, 2009 11:38 am

I tried to post a comment on Mr. Monbiot’s blog, it was an inoffensive and polite entreaty, it was removed, yet he wants the ‘debate’, I really think, as like his lackeys, honest and open debate is the very last thing they desire. When I am accused by AGWs of being as bad as a holocaust denier for denial of AGW, Lordy I do declare!
Then again my name is Thomas!!! Bring it on……………

Editor
August 2, 2009 12:00 pm

Paul K
Even if WUWT doesn’t censor/scrub your posts, I’ve already begun to. I will waste no more time reading or responding to anything you post because your posts add no value to the discussion and your tone reeks of condescension and closemindedness. Congratulations, you are dismissed.

Jacob Mack
August 2, 2009 12:23 pm

Can w get back to data sets, models, charts and reasons for believing they are in soime ways inaccurate and accurate? This is reading like a soap opera…lol

CodeTech
August 2, 2009 12:26 pm

Hmmm – for a while there I thought I was time traveling… August 6, 2009 is still in the future as of this writing…
Then I realized that Paul K is calling Anthony out on something that happened a YEAR ago, as though any individual should have crystal clear memory about something that was said about someone else a year ago. Amazing.
“Miring your opponent in minutiae” is definitely another tactic I need to cover in my book, although I suspect it goes along with “diversion” and “strawmen”.
Paul K, since you’ve been around here for over a year, you SHOULD know by now what will get your comment snipped or cut. Since I believe that most likely you do, your attempt to cry “censorship” is 100% bogus and worthy of contempt.

CodeTech
August 2, 2009 12:41 pm

Meh – maybe if those… let’s say, “people”… had ever actually produced something worth copyrighting, their tune would be a little different…
I know that with my own work, simple claim of copyright is sufficient to launch legal proceedings, and simply proving production dates is enough to get a win.
“Someone” is currently collecting outrageous AGW and “Climate Change” predictions and proclamations. I expect my books will sell well in, say, 20 years.

Henry Galt
August 2, 2009 12:55 pm

How you can use the word people to describe these creatures shows me how patient you are.
I am making a list. One day a reckoning will come.
The real irony; Sinclair is censoring posts on his video threads at youtube. It must be catching, as his heroes all do it.

August 2, 2009 1:11 pm

Cut your losses

timetochooseagain
August 2, 2009 1:12 pm

wattsupwiththat (12:29:20) : Buck up Anthony, nobody takes Romm very seriously-his hysterical histrionics are hilarious, hardly hefty however…