How’d ya like the news in the paper, Mr. Potter? You just can’t keep those deniers down.
From the UK Telegraph, yet another prominent NASA figure says “no” to AGW.
Buzz, the man in the photo above, quoted in the interview:
“I think the climate has been changing for billions of years,” he said.
“If it’s warming now, it may cool off later. I’m not in favour of just taking short-term isolated situations and depleting our resources to keep our climate just the way it is today.
“I’m not necessarily of the school that we are causing it all, I think the world is causing it.”
Yes folks, NASA’s second man on the moon, Colonel and now Dr. Buzz Aldrin is an AGW skeptic. So is fellow astronaut Dr. Harrison Schmitt, NASA’s only geologist to walk the moon.
The story in the UK Telegraph is here.
Please note the date they have of July 20th, 1960 is hilariously wrong. NASA hadn’t even made a suborbital fight yet. Freedom 7 and Alan Shepard was the first to do that on May 5th, 1961.
July 20th, 1969 is the day I’ll always remember for Buzz’s achievement, even if the Telegraph can’t.
BTW, the top photo and top line is a well known scene from, “It’s a Wonderful Life”
h/t to Tom Nelson
UPDATE: Note to Joe Romm; if you happen to run into Buzz at a conference, best that you don’t call him a “denier” to his face.
Here’s video of Buzz landing the punch heard round the world.
Bart Sibrel is the recipient.
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dennis ward (22:15:53) :
You mean THIS Dr. Buzz Aldrin? (I love the part at 1:47)
Making of Buzz Aldrin’s Rocket Experience w/ Snoop Dogg and Talib Kweli from Buzz Aldrin
http://buzzaldrin.com/
I had the huge pleasure and lifetime honor of meeting Buzz briefly after a Science Fiction convention in LA in 1996.
I loved his session. It was the year after Toy Story had come out. He came in, sat down, smiled at the audience, and then took a “Buzz Lightyear” toy out of his briefcase and placed it on the table in front of him and tossed a huge grin at the crowd.
We roared.
And how, brother.
I believe what Buzz was getting at is not jumping of at every wiggle of global temps and burning through hundreds of billions of tax dollars to turn the dial on the thermostat.
Whatever for? It’ll just keep on changing anyways, defiant as ever.
Billion and Trillions. Money Stuff.
Haven’t these jokers anything better to do?
How’s about rolling up those sleeves and cleaning up some SuperFund sites?
If we spent half the money they have squandered for AGW on real world problems.. well the world could have been a nicer place. BUT NOOOOOO greed is the tune we are playing right now. Actually I think even the greedy might be getting played right now by the control freaks.
In astronomy they have a term called “Sphere of influence”, that SOI of Buzz is about armslength 🙂
Bart Sibrel went into the SOI on 9th of september 2002 and got punched on the face, the funny thing is he tried to press charges against Buzz but the district attorney’s office did not file charges. They stated that Buzz was provoked by Sibrel and that he was not injured so there was no reason to file charges.
And yes he was not injured, the fist of Buzz is A-OK.
Sorry folks,
IMHO the war is lost.
A handfol of peaple with good maners and good intention
not mean a different. Mao, S
The top pic says it all.
AGW – Melts in your model, not in your home.
I am sure we have all heard warmers say things like.
Saying global warming is not man made is like saying the moon landings were faked.
Heh, A warmist I’ve been debating said the 0.5C temperature rise on Mars since the ’70’s wasn’t real.
I asked him if he was a Martian climate change denier, and since the data came from NASA, whether he thought they had faked the moon landings too…
The date in the Telegraph piece has to be a typo. The accompanying image blurb is correctly dated.
I, too, think that Mr Aldrin’s announcement is rather vague. However, I can forgive him for that. He’s always been a hero of mine since I watched the moon landing whilst crowded around the TV with my parents and siblings. I demanded a telescope for my nirthday. Okay it was a toy one but I eventually bought my first (6 inch) Newtonian from my paper round money with (more than) a little help from Dad. I’ve been a keen amateur astronomer ever since. Just never ask me about the math…
“typo!
??? yeah thats helpful – A”
Typo, as in the 9 and 0 are next to each other on the keyboard and the Telegraph’s writer and subeditor missed it. Not as bad as The Grauniad though.
REPLY: Wasn’t able to tell what portion of article or comments you were referring to, if my error, or someone else – A
I am always shocked when I run into someone who thinks the moon landings were faked. Chris Thorne mentioned the retroreflectors as just one example of evidence to show that it was accomplished. It must have been an amazing experience for those guys that stepped on another planet. They must have had (snip) as big as church bells. To get into a vehicle that you know is about to attempt to take you to the moon!! It was cowardly and weak to confront Buzz Aldrin like that. What would you expect him to do? How would you expect him to react? There are proper channels to express your opinion if that is what you believe. Some would say it wrong to react the way Aldrin did, but I say the guy provoked him and then deservedly received the ol’ Irish Kiss !!! ( What is the phrasing? He was all up in Buzz’s grill? Yeah, I think thats it, ….)
Pete W (21:04:48) :
Nice spin! Impressive… to take obvious skepticism over alarmism and try to turn it in the favor of alarmism. So close!
Pete… most people who read this site know that humans must have a slight effect on weather. But since the rate of warming for 30 years has been .15 C degrees according to the UAH figures today… and the Earth was warming about 1 C every century for the last few centuries, well the warming has slowed, hasn’t it? How much of that .15 C warming in30 years are we responsible for? If it’s less than 100%, perhaps we need not hyperventilate quite yet?
Since the Alarmists long term predictions have been massive failures, I guess I’ll remain a skeptic. I seem to be in splendid company, and it’s getting more prestigious all of the time.
I think any-one that is of Scottish and Swedish ancestry, is 79 years old, has faced and overcome severe personal problems late in life, has put his own life severely on the line in the service of his country hundreds of times, has shot down 2 MIGs, reacts swiftly and appropriately to be called “a coward, a liar, and a thief” to his face by an attention grabbing A hole and has walked on the moon will do me in being able to recognise a bandit from a friendly.
can some confirm is the polarity 24 or 23? looks like 23 to me…
http://www.solarcycle24.com/
Nice article, and a great birthday present for me personally. I was born 16 days before Buzz set foot on the moon – 4th July 1969, and I’ve always been fascinated by science, space, astronomy, and the weather.
This blog is utterly brilliant in the way it deconstructs the Alarmists’ “The sky is falling and no one is allowed to say otherwise” message, by using Realism to question their methodology and to point out the global cooling trend of the last decade.
I’m pretty disgusted by the Alarmists’ use of “denier” for anyone who asks basic questions about their science and methodology – the sheer arrogance of the people at RC astounds and dismays me.
Keep up the great work here, I’ll be raising a wee tipple of whisky in part for my birthday, in part for all the brave astronauts who’ve risked (and sometimes lost) their lives in the name of science and progress, and in the name of the great and the good people who continue unrelentlessly to question the arrogant proponents of AGW.
Regards, from a skeptical Scotsman.
I only have one criticism of Buzz Aldrin – he didn’t hit Bart Sibrel in the face hard enough.
[Or often enough. ~ dbs, mod.]
Richard Heg (23:59:12) : I am sure we have all heard warmers say things like.
Saying global warming is not man made is like saying the moon landings were faked.
Buzz may not be committed to climate skepticism like readers here are, but his obvious doubts are an excellent icon for those who call us flat-earthers
I just wonder what wealth of experience, training, and context of the Cold War Era passed through Aldrin’s nervous system in the microseconds leading up to that clocking? It must have been an amazing data rate… Put that man on my spaceship any day.
Great video!
Buzz off, Bart!
TonyN comments on here from time to time. In his blog at Harmless Sky he fisks a BBC puff-piece for wind power:
http://ccgi.newbery1.plus.com/blog/?p=200
The BBC report begins “When it is windy, power will be so cheap that …”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/8127177.stm
Last week, the same BBC journo (Roger Harrabin) covered another energy story:
“…a £15bn contract for the new cabling needed to bring the [wind] power onshore…”
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8117704.stm
Read the whole fisking on TonyN’s blog.
That “no moon landings” story has a very strange origin. Richard Hoagland (don’t take issue with the name, just do the science and examine the evidence) describes, in “Dark Mission: The Secret History of NASA” how, right at the start of his career in NASA, when he was young, alert, enthusiastic, and totally believing in NASA, a senior NASA official was together with a strange gentleman putting copies of the first version of this ridiculous story on every press officer’s seat at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena. The date was 22 July 1969.
A very strange action. Can’t be true!!!! Hoagland must be lying!!!!
Examining the evidence: what is appropriate application of Scientific Method here? – read widely in the whole book to put the episode in context; ask, is the evidence coherent? provable? what others can back it up? does it make sense psychologically? does he have an axe to grind? a product to sell? a belief to uphold? do I need to believe everything Hoagland says (or even believe it’s as important as he does) in order to take his story here seriously? etc etc etc – keep the mind open, not dogmatic in either direction, but looking for faults just as one does with any new science theory.
When we can appraise seriously strange new theories without naive dismissal or naive acceptance, without blindness to prejudices, we have the opportunity to grow inwardly. IMHO.
VG (00:54:46)
It’s SC24 by leading polarity (Red) spectrum being white on the Magnetogram.
It’s heavily rotated, though. The black on the Magnetogram is Violet.
Even cycle South ReVerses.
Buzz, the man in the photo above said in the interview: “I think the climate has been changing for billions of years,”
I’m pretty certain of it actually 😉
Pete W (21:04:48) :
“Speaking of natural forcings, I also saw an interesting youtube this week that describes earth’s rotation patterns around the sun as a significant forcing. ”
Pete W, so glad to see a warmist finally recognise the Milankovitch Cycles, which have been known to most everybody else for decades.
IN FACT, the fact that arctic ice is trending down and antarctic ice is trending up is indicative of a Milankovitch climate shift, i.e. nothing we can hope to do anything at all about.