Final vote: 219 Yea, 212 Nay
Lets hope for defeat in the Senate. The list of votes is below.
As they say, making legislation is like making sausage. There’s a final product, but you surely don’t want to see the ugly process of it being made.
Today, those of us watching CSPAN, saw the ugliness of the sausage factory.
Here is the link to the vote tally:
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll477.xml
I don’t think I’ve been this angry since April 30, 1975. This time, it’s the American people who have been sold out.
Congressman Dave Reichert (R. WA) just lost a loyal voter – forever.
The Democrats are right, this bill is the start of the creation of millions of “green” jobs. What they don’t seem to realize is that those jobs will be in the form of FARM LABORERS in the new U.S. post-industrial agrarian economy. We will have to struggle to feed our country in a few years’ time if this insanity continues…
“The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly.” — Abraham Lincoln
And I would add, vote out the ones who voted for it.
RayB:
“A hydro dam where the water is no deeper on either side of the dam? Watts up with that?”
I think this simply means that the water flow through the new hydroelectric plant cannot create a noticeable decrease in the lake level. This can be done if the lake inflow is roughly equal to the hydroelectric turbine flow, and the lake is large.
I think the bill should be renamed the Bubbles Bill in honor of the late Micheal Jackson’s chimp, the beer bubbles at it’s core and the monkey’s that voted in favor of it, without actually having possibly read it.
I just hope that for the future prosperity of the USA there are less chimps in your senate.
I remember when I got the call from the Republican National Committee for a contribution in 2006 and 2008. I said the same thing each time: “Not a damn dime. You guys are spending like a bunch of drunken democrats.” I’m a maroon. Don’t ever think things can’t get worse.
Dear Ray, if you are seriously going to pursue this, I would like to offer any assistance that I can to help you get your message out. I have a few little secrets that could be quite beneficial to you in this effort.
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Oh, whoops, sorry, address: squid@thixo.com
Never overestimate the intelligence of the members of the House of Representatives.
The section in this bill covering home and mortgage appraisals essentially confiscates all privately owned houses in the US by requiring the government to dictate the appraisal price of the home. If you can dictate the sales price you essentially own the property. If this gets through the Senate Obama and the Democrats will at a stroke turn the US into a Stalinist Communist state. This must surely be unconstitutional – but I wouldn’t rely on the Supreme court to stand up to the Democratic Commissars – since in their wisdom the idiots on the court classified CO2 as a pollutant and thus legitimised this vast power and property grab.
There will be 4th of July tea parties everywhere. I am suggesting that recall petitions be started for each of the yes votes on this bill and the three that didnt bother to vote as well. Dont be angry alone. Show your displeasure with like minded folk.. People called us crazy on april 15th.. lets see what they say about the 4th.
Lets stop this in the senate. Put the fear of (insert higher power here) into these fools.
Another important thing to be a bug in your legislator’s ear about is the Copenhagen summit in December. Remember, if this bill passes, is implemented, and things get bad, the congress can repeal it or whatever (especially if we throw the incumbents out). BUT, if we agree to a treaty in Copenhagen, there is no way out! We can’t change our minds later. The Constitution puts international treaties above any national law, and you can bet the greenies would take it to the Supreme Court if congress tried to take action. Although it’s important to stop this bill, Copenhagen is even more important. We escaped the Kyoto treaty, we need to avoid Copenhagen as well.
Incredible! Sad day for the, whats left of it, western world. But, what’s the point in voting out, or in, politicians? It’s the people you don’t vote for who are driving this, not the public puppets you see.
As an example, in New Zealand I know some of the people whol sold Post Bank to ANZ Bank while a National Govn’t was in place. These very same people setup KiwiBank while there was a Labour Govn’t in place (Helen Clark, hell bent on introducing “climate change” policies. She and her Govn’t were voted out last year after 10 years of extreme left policies, incresed taxes etc, to be replaced with a National Govn’t who retracted any climate bills/policies being thought about at that time. Good on ’em. Australia should take NZ’s lead and ignore what the US has done).
PS. I’ve actually made saussages before in a butchers many years ago.
Waxman’s strange, Zelig-like image will soon be a part of American history. His name will be on the tongue of every grateful American, and his avuncular image will appear (perhaps magically) in every history book.
I’m sure, for example, it was he standing behind Henry Ford in one of those old black-and-white photos … snuffing indignantly at the tail-pipe of a Model T as it came clattering off the production line.
A smiling Henry Waxman on every gas pump: Welcome to a Cleaner Tomorrow… Thanks, Hank!!
RayB:
“A hydro dam where the water is no deeper on either side of the dam? Watts up with that?”
I think this simply means that the water flow through the new hydroelectric plant cannot create a noticeable decrease in the lake level. This can be done if the lake inflow is roughly equal to the hydroelectric turbine flow, and the lake is large.
We have a situation in Missouri where Truman dam on the osage river generates hydroelectric power and this water is released into the lake of the Ozarks to generate power at Bagnel dam. This keeps the water level on the lake of the Ozarks stable for recreation. Are they refering to a similiar sityuation on another river system
First of all, a public thanks to my dem. representative, Jim Matheson from Utah who voted no in both the committee and on the floor. Secondly I emailed the chairman of the GOP (state level is probably better but I couldn’t find email addresses) that not one dime of party money should be spent on reelecting these 8. To do so would be no better than what these 8 did today. On the day that someone enters the race in the primary or general election against one of these eight, be they Dem, Rep, Ind, Lib, or Martian, post it so I can support them with a little cash. Sadly we have to wait two years to fire them.
Pelosi was right when she said this bill was all about jobs — the creation of numerous looting & mooching federal bureaucrat pull peddler jobs that will replace real productive jobs.
Our rights were surrendered when the democrats finally got the majority of the House and Senate. Now they do nothing but ram social programs down our throats unchecked. They got their wish, we got our change, it sure doesn’t feel good does it. Remember this day, because when they implement this horror show on the American public and it blows up in their face as it has in every country they tried this, they will somehow blame the Republicans. At what cost in dollars and individual freedoms?. Mark your calendar in red, because under the democrats that is the path we are heading toward.
Fortunately only the Senate by a 2/3 majority can validate an international treaty. At least it says that in the constitution, we know what that has been worth lately.
This bill will energize the opposition’s base. The promoters apparently underestimated the potential backlash-effect here.
I did not realize Waxman was from Arrakis.
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Senate to vote on cap & trade….contact them.
FACTS: WHY VOTE AGAINST CAP & TRADE
http://factreal.wordpress.com/2009/06/26/facts-why-vote-against-cap-trade-hr2454/
Are we the most pathetic nation in the world or what? I truly never thought that one man could totally destroy America like President Obama has in a little more than 6 months. Add a national health care system to the mix and freedom as we use to know it in America is over. We could use someone like Thomas Paine right about know.
You Americans need to realize that the left/right paradigm is an illusion. Both sides are backed by the same interests, the globalists. They would like to see nothing less than the disassembly of sovereignty around the world. They would like to see a totalitarian global government, where they define reality. The science says CO2 isn’t the driver of climate change? WHO CARES, THE WORLD GOVERNMENT SAYS IT DOES. PAY US YOUR CARBON TAXES YOU PEONS.
I don’t see any other reason as to why this bill, and other crazy bills are being passed with such pace.
Be careful guys, don’t let the elitists take over your country. Fight anything that goes against the liberties given to you by your founding fathers. They, after all, gave you the greatest country on earth, now look at it.